Which Countries Have Declining Populations & What Can They Do About It? - TLDR News
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As we discussed in a previous video, around the world fertility rates are falling. In some cases this is becoming a serious issue, leading to declining population counts. In this video we discuss the countries which have declining populations & what they're doing to try and turn the tide.
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“Why is this happening?”
Life is expensive bruh.
Blame america
@@tforaodg blame another country for your problems. Classic…
Specifically America. It costs an arm and a leg for a baby because we don't a single payer system like other countries.
Exactly. Life is too expensive even in Africa.
@@alexanderg1297 Well in this case, it is valid. USA push free trade all over the world with their media and their politic. And their version of free trade: Free trade without regulation.
Nobody expected the Spanish atheism.
ngl that did surprise me
@@tobis9585 x2
It is funny that country know for it's spanish inquisition. Now it is atheist
NOBODY EXPECTED THE SPANISH ATHQUIZITION
As a native spanish speaker I'm shocked x_x
The thousand pound elephant in the room that no-one mentions: only men used to work 5 day weeks
Population decline in Portugal is happening because of really stupid reasons:
- Low wages / low child support
- Parents don't have time to take care of their children (I believe this is one of the biggest factors). People *work too much* and when they have children they have almost no time to take care of them, which discourages people from having them.
- Emigration, mainly young people emigrating and not having children in Portugal
In Romania the population drop is more linked to people migrating to other European countries for better living condition.
Romania's population is about 19M and the diaspora is 4.3M and growing.
Yes, being romanian,I agree. The salaries are not great,and higher education is also not very good. Plus, it is very easy to become a doctor without higher education for example. There is a great joke that is mostly true and goes like this:
Ion (or John in English) asked a japanese man why Japan was so devoloped. The japanese said: "We have one smart man for every 9 stupid men, while you have one stupid man for every 9 smart men."
Ion says: "So, what?"
The japanese says: "In Japan, the smart man rules the stupid men. In Romania, the stupid man rules the smart men."
@@andreizonga4611 as a romanian too,I totally agree with you,with both,as you all can ser,all of this part of Europe has the same problem.
Yea. 3% of the italian population has romanian origins.
@Robert Valentin Translation: Romanians also don't make children because of poverty.
Our biggest problem is the ineffective goverment bc if the life standards would rise we wouldn't even have this discussion. The fertility rate in Romania is pretty good but the people migrating is what makes the population decline
As Filipino, I'm surprised Spain is the least religious in Europe considering how zealous they were on spreading Christianity.
Every zealous persecution leaves a few more people that hate religion in each generation.
Germany for example is extremely religious. We worship money.
The more wealthy a country is, the more it is less dependent on religious beliefs such as limitations on sex, marriage and other things. A person who is wealthy do not rely on faith in God and don't like religious do's and don'ts. Religious people tend to prioritize their focus more on family than personal careers.
@Reject humanity return to monke That's true and had something to do with political and cultural Islam. Unlike Christianity, Islam is embedded heavily in laws, politics and culture.
@@dilucragnvindr130 more brainwashed*
I struggled just to support myself until I was in my mid 30's. Once I got my nose above water and felt like I could raise kids responsibly, it seemed like everyone I met close to my age who was looking for a partner were divorced or single parents. I just wasn't enthusiastic about committing my life to helping someone else raise their kids.
I think you are correct.
good choice man
@ Stacia45 True for women. They are accumulators, not donators.
Once you get odler though and you are going for women in their mid-40s and over, those children could be legally adults. So they would be paying their own way.
Yeah never date a single mother, you'd be a fool to bring up another mans kids, you've got to be desperate to do that or be a schmuck.
1) Cost of living and housing keeps increasing far beyond salaries.
2) More demanding work, unpaid overtime and 70-80 work weeks is now the norm and 2-4 hours travel time to and from work per day.
3) The above leave people with no money, no time or no energy to socialize or engage in a relationship.
Wages are low, house prices are through the roof, everyone's busy trying to be secure rather than bringing children up young n working around them.
He is talking about the reasons why young people can't have kids, not about young people who already have children.
Housing is just as important and a human right, if not more than healthcare. So why isnt there a National Housing Service that provides each family with a home free of charge? Homebuilders can either be contractors paid by the govt per home built, or be civil servants that build homes. Realtors can be the nurses or receptionists in this analogy.
And I don't mean only to those who cannot afford--i mean everyone. We (UK, et al) don't just provide healthcare to the poor, we provide it to all.
@RoastWorthy i dont doubt they're happy with kids, but if youre a 19 year old in college are you REALLY going to risk having kids? I'm not going to have kids until I've graduated college, let alone have my own home.
I'd have children if I could see a good life ahead for them, but unfortunately it looks like a shit show from here to the horizon. Bringing children into such a chaotic world is doing them a favor how? 🤷♂️
@RoastWorthy
UN Declaration of Human Rights, Article 25, section 1:
"Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control."
All UN member states have signed such and former US first lady Eleanor Roosevelt helped draft it.
Just a minor quibble: sometimes you show fertility rate on screen with a percent sign tagged on, although that doesn't make much sense, since it's just a number (the average number of babies per woman).
agreed, it's a little confusing, but it's just a little problem, I love the graphics of these videos :3
@@jnimitzch4738 1.5 babies per 100 women is clearly incorrect...
@Billy O'sullivan an average of 1.5 children for every 100 women? Do you understand what this actually means? Also, you are aware that who I was replying to deleted their comment right?
You’re wrong it’s incorrect. For example it’s 1.66 babies per woman in the UK. Therefore not a percentage.
Average mean,
100 woman having 200 babies = 2 babies per woman...
In the paper... but a single woman can have 3 o 4 and others dont... is just a number not the reality.
Here in my country i meet a woman who have 5 kids from 3 different men :v... i almost create the 6 lol :v
I find it very difficult to get worried about falling population.
Yeah? Well wait till you see the political and social problems that come with it….
@@patrickmcclanahan2856 Firstly, the core problem is aging population, not falling population. Secondly, this mostly happens in countries that are already rich. We may get poorer, but we'll still be rich compared to the world, and technology-driven growth in effective wealth may offset this slump, anyway. The biggest issue is in China and the former Eastern Bloc States, which are only middle income but have aging populations and some brain drain. (I've heard this attributed to the way they industrialized before getting as rich as they would for industrialization to start in a capitalist system, but idk.)
In any case, though, falling populations mean it will be easier to find resources for everyone in the long run. We won't have to make ever more intensive forms of agriculture and destroy the environment more and more just to avoid people starving and otherwise dying from lack of resources. (Unfortunately, the places these issues are most likely to come up in still have high population growth rates, but they are dropping fairly rapidly as those places urbanize (moving to the economics of wage labor and away from family farming), and get access to education, modern medicine, contraceptives, etc. Also, a lower total population and especially less rich people lowers some climate effects like CO2 emmissions and, if an economic system redistributed resources the right way, lower total population would reduce pressure even on populations whose fertility rate stayed higher longer. That last one is maybe overly optimistic, though, excepting our current, limited and somewhat economically and politically problematic, international aid and charity systems.)
Population decline is good, but it has to be done right. Everyone screams about aging populations, but this would only be temporary. If succeeding generations continued to remain small, then by the time they got old, there wouldn't be as many to support. The age demographics would balance out. It has to be consistent, though. It also has to be worldwide and not just in certain countries. There are bad things about growing populations: ecological degradation, species extinction, pollution, overcrowding, etc. Some say there is plenty of open space in the world. Yes, there is. Maybe it should stay that way.
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remember when the worry was over-population?
@@patrickmcclanahan2856 Like what? What negative can you possible imagine? Oh oh the future governments won’t have as many taxpayers. Bitch please.
I’m Dutch. Our population went from 3 million to 17 million in just a century. We are very densely populated. It would be a blessing if we go back to 10 or 12 million. Slowly.
not something you want
Weird
i’m glad you added slowly on the end
Then you'll have a country full of old people.
But I think Dutch may still be 3 million only.
The actual problem is that wages have stagnated while cost of living (such as rent, and entirely new costs such as phones and internet) have gone up.
and yet food is cheaper than ever, so is water and clothing.
@@badass6300 I would ask you for a citation but it doesn't matter, you don't live on those 3 things alone. None of this addresses the underlying problem of human productivity going up while real wages stagnate. The things we actually buy often have built-in planned obsolescence, so not only are more costs being created, they have to be replaced faster. Legislation and advertisements also incentivise private options as opposed to public ones, so you pay twice for a service that might not even be that great ( such as having to get a personal car instead of taking the bus, only to have both the car and bus get stuck in traffic from all the cars) . You wanna fix the aging population problem? Give people the opportunity to actually have kids by creating social programs funded with taxes on the rich.
@@badass6300 'cheaper than ever'. Could afford a cart full of groceries for $124 in 2009. In 2013 3/4 of a cart. Now less than a half a cart. Where is this cheap food, developing nations? Water is exorbitant, three times as high as it used to be. Clothing, well depends on if you shop at thrift stores or not.
Poor people have more children than rich people.
@@josephlynch7655 Probably because they are more religious, aren't as educated and contraceptives and abortions aren't always available to them.
how am I expected to date, marry and have children when I can barely support myself ?? After graduation, most of Master students struggle with finding a job, staring a business is faced with numerous hardships because of the governments and if you actually succeed and build a career for yourself, you'll be sabotaged by local government officials because they don't want you to threaten their rich friends by disturbing the business in the area where you live.
😂😂👍
Yeah exactly. this is one of my many reasons i would like to do self-employment since these greedy corpos cannot care less about its workers/youngsters
@@notkurumi that's no reason to not have kids, having kids with the right person will make you more happy 😉
@@haidarsyriaismyheart5945 Giving birth to a child into a poor household will/can ruin many chances for yourself and especially to your child future. Watching after your parents, wife, bigger house, car, yourself and then a child too? Its just way too many money. And we know tick isnt the answer. Everyone kept tolding you in life DONT pick up tick from banks.
@@notkurumi I said with the right person who will support you always and 2 parents can support a good life for a family as in all countries 🤷♂️ you should be positive and every thing will be good
Really great 👍 news
Portugal has introduced incentives like the None Habitual Residency scheme however that only really attracted retiree's Their other incentive was the Golden Visa aimed at rich foreigners who had to spend over 300,000 euros on property and or start a business and employ ten people. Both schemes registered both success and failure . Interestingly in the last ten yrs young people have found Portugal and are moving here ,mainly as digital nomads ,or off grid families. The reason for that seems to be mainly the climate ,The space , The cheaper properties .The excellent conditions of health care ,general services etc..They have been surprised to find that Portugal is not a third world country.It's well rung and actually has higher standards than many so called 1st world countries .Language can be deemed a problem .In the south however English is spoken everywhere .English is the business, scientific and medical language So not such a problem in those areas.It's good and obviously advantageous in the long run to learn the language though .
I might think about Portugal actually thanks I know someone who is a native from there, very nice guy. Quite funny to.
The problem is that these policies are so insignificant that they’re almost irrelevant. Housing is extremely expensive in most western countries these days and as long as that remains the case, nothing will change. I won’t even think about having children until I can buy a house and that’s not happening any time soon. The situation will get even worse in the UK and probably many other countries as housing is already ridiculously overvalued and it’s only getting more expensive.
It's also the fact that both parents need to work leaving them around 2-3 hours of free time per day and they *still* don't feel secure enough. You really can't have children under these conditions. Wondering why we have an aging population and trying such silly methods to "fix" it is almost grossly hypocritical at this point.
@@hmthisisit That’s true - in the past one salary was enough to buy a house and feed your whole family. This is no longer the case. In fact, even on two salaries it’s still really hard.
@@lifewhatsoever That's probably inflation doing it's work. I've done some calculations, and by 2037 half of the US population will be below the poverty line because of it, and even Jeff Bezos won't be able to buy a piece of gum by 2329.
@@PatrickDavis28 that's not how inflation works....
You can build your own house
It doesn't have to be of typical size either, you can have a very good life in a smaller house as well well
And building your own house is not that complicated either
Check out some Eco communities and how they build their own buildings
When I visited Spain in 2019, I saw very few young or teenagers people on the street. Almost 90% of them are older persons.
Spain has a very low birthrate.
Greetings from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 :')
There is something else that's happening that could very well counter this and that is research into radical life extension is actually accelerating and there's a few documentaries out there that show that we may not be that far from extending human lifespans for an undetermined number of years through epigenetics and that this will definitely counteract the effects of a lower birth rate as a matter of fact it makes a low birth rate highly desirable
As a swede my only respond to this is; how do you even got time for kids when you're busy constructing furnitures from IKEA!?
That's a good one
As a swede I agree
@@aswedishguy682 How can I trust your word, if your name doesn't compare to it.
@@prudentibus I'm from Göteborg
I stopped buying Ikea furniture so I can have more kids
Having kids isn’t a numbers game. You have to raise them and that ain’t easy.
Especially when one is a single parent...
@@Lea-rb9nc or people who don't have kids think they have the right to tell you how to raise yours.
@@maureenmiaullis6427 My children are grown. I don't tell others how to raise their children but as a therapist and Child Protection officer, I've conducted many parenting courses and worked with individuals as well.
If you are poor, it becomes a numbers game at least on a subconscious level. For middle class, it's about legacy.
@@Lea-rb9nc how your 2nd sentence contradicts itself.
Thanos after watching this vid: This does put a smile on my face.
I'm from the GTA (Greater Toronto area)
Our houses average 6-700,000 CAD (560k USD)
Average household income is after taxes 62,000.
Not to mention is instability of relationships nowadays in North America and soaring divorce rates.
I thought you meant Grand Theft Auto (An American video game)
It's not about fertility.....it's a simple economic choice in the Western Economies. It's the first question couples ask themselves, is it affordable ?
In economics,."Fertility" has nothing to do with biology or if women can have children. It's more a general number for how many children each women has on average across the country.
Gee corporations and the corrupt politicians they own spent the last forty years destroying the middle class so now no one can afford to have a kid anymore and now birth rates are plummeting. Who would have thought that would happen?
It's about what luxuries society and the government expect people to have.
If it was babies, we would have babies, but we are expected and encourage to have new cars and large apartments, if not large houses.
The average 30 year old spends as much on clothes every year as it costs to have a kid.
It's not about money, it's about what people care about.
@@marcschaeffer1584 you get it right, it's about values. Even the countries with similar economies have different birthrate because of difference in culture.
Allowing women to have power over their own bodies is a factor.
When corporations and automation pushes working age people out of a job maybe governments should tax the corporations to pay for older people.
There is a plan for that, a tax “per machine”.
Which would probably end up just being a tax on equivalent human output per hour.
Per machine would obviously be unworkable, they are not standardised. So it would be a nightmare to calculate.
@@lesserspottedmugwump.363 Seems like something smart algorithms would be good for.
BuT ThEy ArE aLrEaDy To HeAvY TaXeD
@@muffinmendy7327 Not really, they use tax loopholes and havens to avoid paying,
if the government put an end to tax avoidance there would be plenty for a UBI system to enable exactly this. But any politician who tried that would be assassinated much like the journalist who uncovered the panama papers.
This was briefly mentioned but when looking at Sweden for example, the taxing system that favors parents falls short and it seems reasonable anyways to assume that a declining population is not mostly due to economical disadvantages but rather due to the abolishment of the necessity for long term goals and thinking. Religion makes a person think long term but for example dating apps contribute to short term fun which is destructive for long term goals of the same area of life. Another one is the abolishment of clear gender roles. When people know their role in life, they tend to have a clearer headspace as well, not surprising. So I find it a bit odd that these things are not mentioned in the ”mainstream” at all.
I think that the main problem could be retirement pension for people incapable of independent existence. People used to be afraid to be alone near their end. Now their own country says that it will take care of them. If i still would be obligated to pay 20% of my salary as 'retirement tax' but 75% of it would go to my parents and other 25%of it would be evenly split between everyone with proper age, then i would know that the only chance to get anything that can guarantee better last days would be to have bigger family.
I live in Greece, and the problem here is huge. Immigration to other countries, low wages, and modern way of life effect new families. And most of the 2010+ families have only one child
And one child isn't enough!
And another big problem in Greece is that no one wants to remain in the villages. Every young person wants to move to Athens or Thessaloniki. Greece probably doesn't grow enough food to feed itself.
@@user-qr2gd7me6c yeah man, i still visit my grandparents at my village and like many others, the place is empty. This is not food security. Big problem
@@user-qr2gd7me6c Cities are screwing over countries.
People often forget that, not only does the working class have to support the old non working class, but they also have to support the upcoming working class, kids and students. However you look at it, for working class its always difficult.
If your priority is no longer some form of continuation, then all is well. Once Italian peninsula people ruled the known world, now it has soft-decided to go quietly into the night. One has to question the priority that replaced all that 'going forth and multiplying/increasing'.
Minimum replacement birth rate: 2.1
EU birth rate: 1.53
Canada birth rate: 1.47
USA birth rate: 1.70
Russia birth rate: 1.50
Australia birth rate: 1.66
Israel birth rate: 3.00
Funny how one certain country is magically above replacement rate while others aren't, despite that country promoting anti-natal ideologies in the other countries listed. What a funny coincedence
Be as pronatalist as you want, but if I can't afford a house and stable general life without kids, you can be damn certain I'm not gonna have kids. Even with the gov saying they'll pay me a measly sum.
Maybe, just maybe, if young people didn't struggle for stability, they'd have more kids, because we are educated enough to not subject any kids we have to a life of struggle.
Maybe that's just me though
I agree, giving parental leave and tax benefits are nice, but i still cant afford a flat until I'm 60, or win on the lottery...
People used to struggle much more and still had more kids
@@seasong7655 Yes, and the kids didn't have access to a lot of things because of that, that's why we said we are more educated now, to not imposed those living conditions on our children.
@@Denis-Maldonado And despite white western people leading the world out of poverty what good has it done us? All the other races that contributed nothing benefit, we don't.
like what even who don't have a house have children. i don't understand this ideology of yours.
Having 1 child is a luxury nowadays. No one can afford to reproduce
Africans enter the chat
Having a child has always been a luxury if you want to give it a luxurious lifestyle.
You can move into the country side and raise a child the way that people in less developed countries do.
I'm an African and l think that people should consider their financial situation and the future prospects of the kids before having them because apparently they haven't been doing that, you see a lot of people who don't have any stable income having kids just because they feel that that is what they should be doing and then they set these kids up for failure, knowing full well that the country they live in has nothing to offer these kids in terms of economic prospects or a decent life.
Welfare recipients have kids like rabbits, but do they pay anything for their sustenance or anything else? Of course not! WE DO, AS TAXPAYERS!
There is a huge problem of talking about this only in terms of the problems it causes. It falls out of line with our ideas about permanent economic growth, and certainly presents challenges.
But global populations are already unsustainably high. Part of solving climate change is, frankly, just having less people. The challenges of low fertility are nothing compared to the challenges of biosphere collapse.
The thing is, people are already hate the current state of the economy to the point where you have conspiracy theories that climate action is just an excuse to lover living standards. A lot of people will not accept another hit to their already precarious monetary situation.
The ironic thing is that climate friendly policy is most likely a good thing for the economy but good luck explaining it to a 40 something high school dropout who sees "everything is expensive now! I have to work 12 sifts to keep my car fuelled!" It's an easy mindset to fall into when you hate the economy...
@ 0:20 Damn the humanity of it all!... That benis went from 8 inches to 4 inches, truly a horrifying realization..
TLDR: Talking about the problems with population decline.
China: abolishes its 2 children law the day after the video was released.
Conclusion: Even Mr. Xi Jinping watches TLDR.
I won't be surprised if they introduce a 3 children per women quota
i was gonna coment that yeah they now made it three child
@@azertyuiop432 I can see the Chinese government would someday "mandate" married couples to have at least three child, or face consequences especially to their social credits score
@PP but china is going to face a demographic collapse
suddenly when the current workers (30-50 yr olds) retire there would be no one to replace them
Plus one child now has to support his parents grandparents and even his in laws
And the gender ratio of china is messed up they have 30 million more men than women which is disastrous in the long run for civil strife
Gradual population stabilisation like that in India and Bangladesh is better for the future the negative growth rate in india and bangladesh will become a reality in this century by then these countries will be better equipped to handle the situation
Their better living condition is due to economical initiatives like the special economic zone and being the world's manufacturer
@PP I live in mp I've seen living standards improve here astronomically coastal states doesn't mean you become California Odisha is one of the poorest states and west bengals sees no investement from non government and foreign companies
haryana apart from gurugram is not rich bhopal is a pretty big city that doesn't make Madhya Pradesh rich
Insurgencies in southern states because of migrants from mp up and Bihar !? Bangalore is made up of migrants and that hasn't caused rebellions
But yes the 2 child policy shouldnt be forced but should be encouraged more by awareness and female education in rural areas especially as a whole the fertility rate of india isn't 4.5 it's 2.5 or something close to that
China: institutes one child policy
Also China: "we have a 1.6 fertility rate"
I think it used to allow it's ethenic minority to have 2 kids though I doubt that
@@sol90981 ah, yeah, that does sound familiar now that you mention it
now they push it into 3 children policy, but no one's is interested tho lmao
China: surprised Pikachu face.
@@sol90981 no. Back in the days the 1 child policy didn’t apply to ethnic monitories because of ‘cultural religious differences’ blah blah. The autonomous regions had the power to choose to adopt or not. Some basically adopted it but only applied to Han Chinese living in their regions.
The enforcement was arbitrary and very loose in the beginning, then strengthened in late 80s and 90s and loosened again after 2000s. After 2000s the consequences of having more than 1 baby is purely financial and that coincided with China’s explosive economic growth. It was basically a one-time tax to have more babies.
people whose first child has disabilities are allowed to have more children. There were also some other exceptions
@5:50 would someone kindly explain how taxing young people helps to maintain the quality of service? thank you
There is no one single factor, everything mentioned in the video must be taken together to solve the problem of low birthrate. In some countries when the birthrate drops down below a certain threshold, there is nothing you can do to reverse it.
Maybe the developed countries should pay livable wage for the people, 70 years ago 1 person could sustain a family of four from 1 salary, now you need a degree, 5 years of experience and agreement to work overtime only to be paid peanuts or be pushed into unsafe self-employment schemes with no healthcare, childcare or pension buffer unless you manage to save for it (which you won't, unless you were already born rich).
Why does the same job in Eastern Europe pay 25% of what the same job is paid in Sweden, Denmark or Germany, while the living costs aren't really that much lower.
Amen
Ioanna Karaguni, you don't understand economics
@@ireneuszpyc6684 nice opinion, shame it is worthless without any facts backing it up
@@ireneuszpyc6684 Found the privileged one...
@@ivylilybasket because eastern europe is poor, largely because of communism and socialism. Here is your answer. It's far better than in 90's but still pretty shitty compared to western Europe. And more you push socialist programs, lower the wages will be. Money don't grow on trees and harder you push investors and businesses, worse are the results. They either go bankrupt, leave to a more libertarian country, raise prices and cause inflation, cut wages or fire workers. Also they lose productiveness by focusing more how to fit in a complicated tax system than actually producing stuff.
Overlooking the fact that most people pay towards their own retirement all their working life.
Many people do not plan for retirement let alone plan adequately for retirement...
@@leilahassim7025 Good point!
Do most Americans have 401K's or IRA's - ?
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp yes and no. Most Americans with good jobs have 401k
Even if they do, all they are really doing is potentially increasing their share of the work output of the people who are working during the years when the retiree is retired. Not that I'm in the natalist camp, the productive output of modern technology combined with the extra space and greater bargaining power for labor available from a lower working population, should make for a better future than present. So long as the politics don't get too aristocratic and dystopian.
How can people have children when the super rich are devouring the world's wealth and leave nothing for the average man to support his family?
Wealth inequality absolutely exist in Africa but they still have many kids for the purpose of trying to get their family to become wealthier since kids are easily affordable and will provide the family with wealth
This is very well done. Tremendous problem for the planet.
The housing in Canada is nuts I'm just north of Barrie Ontario and it's $800 thousand for a house.
Yea the GTA is insane. Even places like London, Cambridge, Milton, Kitchener, are going through the roof. I guess getting out of urbanized places in Ontario, Quebec, & B.C. are the only short term solutions. But the problem is the government is too dependent on property taxes to ever fix the housing crisis. The higher the value of the house the larger amount they can get via annual property taxes. If there was real economic growth the government wouldn't be dependent on extracting revenue from tax slaves (a.k.a. "citizens") primary place of shelter. Then again Canada has been going up and down between 1971 to 2001. Slowly & steadily going down between 2001 to 2011. And since 2011 the negative rate has been increasing year over year. I suspect after this Corona BS 2021 to 2031 is going to be alot worse than 2001-2011. Hopefully I'm proven wrong; and the bureaucrats stop abusing their tax slaves and actually have a long term prosperous plan. If not then I suspect the immigration rate will continue to slow down, along with the fertility rate, and more people will try for greener pastures. We this already happening the beginning of the brain & labour drain from the West to the East & South. We are seeing a slow and steady increase of Western Europeans & North Americans moving to China, India, Russia, Argentina, Chile, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Philippines, Turkey, Azerbaijan, & there were 3 African countries that I can't remember at the moment. I hope I'm proven wrong b/c Canada has great potential to be a great power of the 21st Century like the countries on the come up besides China & Russia; we have Iran, Turkey, Nigeria, Indonesia, Vietnam, & India. If countries like Canada, Argentina, Chile, Kazakhstan, Ethiopia, Kenya, Australia, New Zealand, Poland, Hungary, UAE, Rwanda, & Pakistan can get their acts together they possibly have a bright future ahead of them. Also the biggest problem for Canada is going to be as the USA continues to deteriorate we should be expecting climate refugees from the USA by the tens of millions. If not we may see a resurgence of manifest destiny if the worst comes to pass. Hopefully when the time comes the USA balkanizes peacefully instead of starting WW3/4 and or trying to invade Canada for its resources. Also lastly we need to secure our portion of the Artic. Especially concerning the northwest passage. We will need to work with Denmark/Greenland/Iceland on this one though. With their portion of the Artic circle & northwest passage Just like the Russians have secured their northeast passage. Peace.
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo China has a negative net migration and Hong Kong will as well once the Chinese gov't is done with the restructuring. Western Europeans and North Americans on a mass scale will not be leaving to go to any of those countries you listed. All of those countries have an unpredictable future especially with climate change coming. The only desirable countries to move to will be Canada, the U.S (mainly the northern states), and Russia. China will not allow immigration and very few people would want to go there anyways. The U.S will never invade Canada "for its resources". Our country is its biggest customer, our businesses are so integrated with each other it literally would not be feasible. If the U.S invaded Canada half of the corporations on the S&P500 would collapse.
Lets talk about real estate prices in Sydney
@@tj_yt_ Yeah, only in my dreams could by a house for $800,000 in Sydney.
That’s cheap compared to the GTA
Another potential problem with education is how long it takes. Typically at least a university degree is something that is sought after, meaning that you will not be out of uni until ~23-24 years old at best. As people age having children becomes more difficult. I know we are in this boat, because we are in our 30ies and only now are attempting at our first child due to making sure we are stable.
I hope your attempts are successful! Sending good luck
Fertility doesn't really decline all that much in your 30's, a 25 year old has a 87% chance to get pregnant in a year of trying, a 37 year old has about 84% chance. And most of the drop is due to stuff like obesity and genetic conditions. So if you stay healthy and don't have underlying conditions, there is no need to worry.
@@hamstsorkxxor while true it does limit the amount of time you have to have more kids. We are in a similar situation, we are discussing kids as we want 3 but starting at age 35 or so means that my gf would need to go really fast to get there
Who'd want to immigrate to China? Some Chinese are immigrating to the Philippines.
Yeah, I was able to finish my masters at a university at 29. It was too long, bachelor degree at 24 would´ve sufficed... To this day I´m primarily working and making money to have any chance of starting a family of my own. Not enough money means no woman and no kids. So I won´t probably raise the reproduction number, just drag it down. If I´m a parent, then only an old one :/
quit treating humans like wage slaves, give them a livable wage to support a family and more free time to spend with family.
I am a Greek .Greece's population is declining rapidly .When I was a child ,it was 11 million .Now it goes to 10 . In the contrary UK' s population was 61 million when I came ,fifteen years ago and now is 68 .It looks to me that people go wherever there are opportunities .
The map is inaccurate, Macednoia has a shrinking population but i dont blame you. We havent had a census in over 20 years :).
You mean North Macedonia
lol
@@washimpatwary1446 maybe he meant real Macedonia in Greece
...North Macedonia
@@washimpatwary1446 okej genocide denier
When it takes until your mid 30s in so much countries to be able to live comfortably and stabilize yourself economically, why would anyone have kids? As more evidence it is an economic qnd not cultural issue (e.g. hesitance to have kids for reasons other than economic stability) just look at top flight footballers who are econimcally stable and having kids in their 20s
True
Or you live on an "unsafe" 'hood and think "No way I'm subjecting a child to this Hell when I can't leave myself". And then, if you do leave, you get to the case you describe above. If lucky, by which point you'll just say "Not Worth It Anymore".
Make it so people can marry and have a good job in the 20's and there will be more children. Many women wait to 30's or 40's to settle down, way to late to find a life partner.
@@MasterGhostf What about the men? Are men in their 20's also willing to settle down? It's not just the woman's fault, we can't just pick any man and get him to marry.
@@sunnysunshine8897 of course. Many guys want to settle down, but with college it's hard. And I don't blame women for waiting after college. Which is roughly 22-24. Same with men..we all have to improve and make ourselves the best we can be and keep the effort when were in a relationship. Same goes for men as well as women. To me there is a large societal issue that isn't being talked about but will be a major issue in a few decades.
Saying it's unaffordable doesn't explain why Africa's (the poorest continent) population is still growing exponentially
It's no coincidence that poorer countries seem to have higher fertility, birth rates and booming young population
Already machines and robots are replacing many jobs so fears of reduction in labour pool is redundant, as for the cost of the elderly, these developed countries can solve this easily by raising the income taxes on corporations, and curbing the dozens of loopholes they and the super rich use to hide their wealth. I don't care what a Politician living in a million dollar manor, or some Wall street economist has to say about the "dangers" of declining population, common folk like me see the havoc huge population has caused across the world, and I'm sick of it. The only lament I have is I was born in a time, in which my country (India) is still growing its numbers like breeding rabbits, the common man here needs to suffer in crowded streets, crowded markets, overloaded public transport, fierce competition for decent job, increasing house prices, increasing food prices and much more.
Suggested companion piece: countries that are struggling with rapid population growth. Many Afrcian countries are struggling with this, as they have high fertility rates combined with surging life expectancy, meaning their young populations are growing old rather than dying.
It's called the demographic transition and Africa is just one step behind Asia.
And then when Pax Americana breaks down, theres going to be mass death there. The only reason they arent turning eachother to shred right now is because the US is there to stop them.
I predict a very dark age coming for Africa. And potentially for Europe, with millions of refugees heading for Europe.
@@TSGC16 Meh, things are starting to turn together for some African Nations as well as the Plans for an unified African Body. not to mention you'd more likely see China replace US in that regard
@@majintm3979 True, but that united African Body is very unlikely besides the East African Federation. But im talking about situations like the Egyptian-Ethiopian dam Crisis. If Ethiopia dams the nile, Egypt will turn into chaos and it will probably cause millions of deaths and millions of refugees. 100 million people live in Egypt, if even 1% of those decide to leave for Europe, it will already be the second biggest refugee crisis in European history (besides the Syrian crisis).
@@TSGC16 That is undeniable , do you think Ethiopia might actually do it?
Its also easier to rise kids in villages, rather than cities. You just let em go, and they occupy themselves all day long. In a city its too dangerous to let them roam unsupervised til theyre like 8+, so they pester parents all day long out of boredom.
Some of the safest cities are in Asia. Sounds like you live in america or even now a west European country (no-go zones)
@@user-nf9xc7ww7m Why western Europe? Portugal, Czechia, Austria and Switzerland are amongst the safest in the world, literally any other parts of the world are more dangerous.
@@user-nf9xc7ww7m from your user name I can tell you’re Chinese or something, when your govt makes it illegal to report anything of course you think it’s safe where you live.
@@hamzad.ismail6202 His name is actually korean
@@user-nf9xc7ww7m it doesn't matter where you live. As long as there are cars, its dangerous to let a 5yo run around unsupervised.
At 3:51 the graphic says 6.9% which is incorrect. But what you said was right. Same with 1.3% at 4:01.
Declining populations are a good thing - most countries are grossly overpopulated in terms of their ecological capability to sustain that many people
Yeah, we should nuke some countries to reduce population, let's start with Africa where most people are in poverty and often cannot buy enough food, the issues is definitely not the countries that are producing most waste and religiously engaged in consumerism.
@@haruyanto8085 that's not what I said at all, is it now? The biggest polluters by far per capita are the wealthy Western nations
Ok
Let's clean India
Let me borrow some nukes from Biden
Just a second
The thing that prevents people from having children in Ireland I would say is expensive housing.
Please excuse my ignorance, but why is housing so expensive in Ireland? Land prices? Construction costs? Or is other things?
Yeah I thought Ireland was pretty empty unlike the UK how come your prices are so high.
@@kbflorida888 The main reason why housing is so expensive is because there is so much demand the reason why there aren't enough houses is because of the recession in 2008 in which houses stopped being built also another reason is because many companies just buy up entire estates and just rent out the houses.
@@natenae8635 The main reason why housing is so expensive is because there is so much demand the reason why there aren't enough houses is because of the recession in 2008 in which houses stopped being built also another reason is because many companies just buy up entire estates and just rent out the houses.
@@natenae8635 A few different reasons.
1. Irish people have a culture of owning land/their own house- the roots of this go back to the colonial period, when the majority of people were landless tenants who could be evicted at a moment's notice from landlords, often of the absentee kind. A culture has thus grown up of it being really, really important to own your own dwelling.
2. The dominant political parties (Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael) tend to be supported by landowning/ construction interests. They are very reluctant to regulate this sector in any meaningful way, hence the growth in support for Sinn Féin recently.
3. Ireland's housing crisis in 2008/9 caused the government to enact essentially a firesale, by buying distressed loans in the construction sector at knockdown prices and selling them off, mostly to US venture (vulture?) capitalist firms. These firms have seen how profitable it is to squeeze young people (especially in Dublin's commuter belt) and have started buying up large blocks of apartments/ houses, further restricting supply and driving up mortgage/ rental costs.
4. Linked to 3- the banking crisis in 2008 caused by loose lending practices meant that overnight, regulations were tightened hugely on loans. While this made sense at the time, it hasn't really been adjusted for Ireland's growing economy.
But I agree with you that Ireland's very low population density makes it strange that we have such an unaffordable housing market. New Zealand also seems to have similar problems (though perhaps for different reasons).
I may be a bit behind in this - when I was growing up we were told that over population was a bad thing (too many mouths to feed / global warming etc. and that the ideal family had just 2 kids.
That was mostly do to
They lied to you...
That was social engineering to wash people's brains into having less children but now the government sees that people took it way too seriously and are afraid of their population falling because a country can't exist if there are no people.
@Schwainer mit ai Problem is they din't educate the Africans to stop breeding they instead told us to do so even though our numbers aren't that big.
Overpopulation is a bad thing. Resources are finite. We need a stable or gently declining population with increased automation to increase the productivity of the remaining productive population.
Evidently, endless population growth is a problem ... and so is the lack of population growth? What's the problem here?
it is to expensive to raise to many kids in the city even though wages are generally higher, but in the country where you have more space and where kids used to have lots to do (mixed farming and self sufficiancy by gardening or orchards) but now adays with farms being specialized and highly automated and the prices for commodities being so low that breaking even or making even a small profit is a big wish so they too can't afford large families
In this modern age being single makes more sense
@Vikki Kumar that is a wrong statement. Noone "has to pay" based on their gender, but whatever pair bought together is divided equally, even if it was bought on income of one spouse, plus the child support is paid by a parent, who doesn't have custody, again doesn't matter whether it is father or mother
@John Ashtone so what makes sense is having only working adults in the household, in the time when we all work a lot, but it only makes billionaires richer, and wages of regular people stagnate
True. Specially for men, because men spend most of their income on women and men are usually satisfied by a minimalist life. Most of the companies are dependent on female consumerism.
@Vikki Kumar is that why my Aunt has to pay my uncle after they divorced?
I mean... Being a couple and having children aren't exactly 1 to 1 with the amounts of childless couples and single parents.
The other solution is to pay working people way more, it's hard to support oneself with the salaries that you sometimes have to accept let alone a family
If women stop working and become stay at home mothers again, then the wages will double (just like they were before feminism). It's just basic supply and demand. As a bonus, that also makes life easier for pregnant women (since they don't need to work), and the mothers can homeschool their children (easing the burden on the public school system).
@@SchemingGoldberg no, they won't double. In reality the ownership class will always find a way to keep wages low. In 19th century with "traditional gender roles" wages were barely enough to survive.
And stop telling half of population what to do based on group they happen to be born into.
"Before the feminism" lol when was it? In 50s-60s? You mean when union membership was much higher and taxes on the rich were higher, and USA experienced rapid growth due to being only developed country not destroyed by WW2, and Europe due to aid from USA and restoration of economy from war destruction? But, surely, wages were higher only cause women rarely worked, aha
@@SchemingGoldberg Wages won't double if the size of the available labor force halves! Instead, businesses which can't find workers will close and the economy will shrink.
Bear in mind that if women left the workforce, the remaining male workers wouldn't suddenly become twice as productive to compensate! Consequently, total productivity will halve and economic growth will decrease. As the same time, household incomes will also decrease by whatever percentage was being earned by the woman, leaving households with less disposable income.
You've also overlooked that today there are more single women aged 20-30 and more couples without children aged 30-40. Removing these women from the workforce would result in a loss of skilled labor for no gain.
@@SchemingGoldberg Sounds like garbage a MRA would spew
The only solution is to give women less rights like arranged marriages. Eastern Euros have low birth rate but the all the gypsy in those countries have high birth rate because of arranged marriages at a young age
There are 8 billion too many people on the planet - if the population declines naturally over time, more space and quality of life for everyone and maybe even fill employment instead of wage slavery…. I don’t think this is bad, I believe it’s good and should be supported.
In Poland, this problem has multiple roots on diffirent levels.
"China doesn't do immigration"
True. Also it's not like a lot of people would like to go there if you can choose Europe.
even if we cant choose Europe communism is worse if i ever go to china ill just try to make money as fast as i can and then go home and you cant make all that much money in china so no one is stupid enough to immigrate there
@@abdullahshabaneh8648 China is not really communist anymore, not saying I am going there though
@@kkmac7247 aren’t they about to force Hong Kong to be Communist
@@abdullahshabaneh8648 to be Chinese,and single-party. Fascist Germany was one party, definitely not communist. (yes I know that China is not fascist, just an example)
China accepts very few immigrants
We're talking about declining populations when we can't sustain what we have lol
Exactly. The whole model is wrong. We can’t keep up growth. There aren’t enough resources. But nobody wants to address it. eventually the whole race will go off a cliff.
@@melimoo6656 There is plenty enough resources. Countries would rather spend on military or hedge funds than infrastructure to help developing countries get out of poverty and take care of themselves.
We can sustain 9 billion. Thats our cap with current production.
@@Darkmage1000 bro our Planet can't sustain the road we are going, the solar System can
@@Holuunderbeere sad reality is life is going to be much worse as our population lowers.
We learned about carrying capacity back in grade school.
Slowly and steadily declining population worldwide would be a good thing. HEALTHY population would ease tax burden on working people. The ultra wealthy need to be taxed more.
It doesn't. It's an exponential collapse. Declining speeds up more rapid declining. Less people to support the elderly population and produce their wealth. It brings poverty, totalitairanism, decline of production, science and knowledge. Which then speed up decline of birthrates even more.
Italy's population decline and Japan's population decline are a very similar phenomenon in the way that it's happening and why. It's fascinating to me as an italian and as someone fascinated by Japan. The more i get interested the more things in common i find.
But you guys don't have Hentai.
@@ibraced1243 we have pasta tho...
@@alessandrodonadi1368 sorry, can't fap to pasta.
Italy has Mario though...
Oops. Wrong country.
@@ibraced1243 Don't give Rule34 ideas.
Unaffordable house price is the best form of birth control
on the contrary
@@elodin857 if I can't get a house I'm not attracting any partner. And I can't make kids alone.
@@meneither3834 true, but generally the richer the country the less they have kids. You can atract a partner without a house for a while though.
@@elodin857 I don't see how reproducing habits of the wealthy change that fact, I get that you're saying that "even people with that can easily afford a house still don't have many children."
But that's unrelated to my problem right now.
@@meneither3834 I know I know, it is unrelated to your problem in a way. I'm just pointing out that people have managed to have kids in the worse conditions throughout history and we can't even get to do it in the easiest time to have them.
This stuff is why when people ask what my retirement plan is I answer with "Hollow-point to the temple".
The number one problem at this point is the cost of housing. Due to a lack of supply, out of control real estate investment, and rising construction costs (a lot of reasons for this one) people just aren't able to afford larger homes. At best they have space for one child if that.
The world does not need more people. We need a new economic plan that works for less people. Work smarter and live smarter, after all we are suppose to be the smartest animals on the planet, except it seems economists and people that listen to their mantra.
@We're living in a paradox. We humans got to this point and we get more and more. If we are as much as 50 oder 100 years aho that wouldnt be that bad.
And its not only about the amount of people, if everyone gets educated to a high level the chance if someone creating something new is higher than a society that is 10 or more times bigger but only gives a few people the high education
Less people with higher quality life and more egalitarian is the answer to majority of problems.
Yes indeed. Our whole economic system and civilization need a major restructuring and a new approach to what is really important in life. Unfortunately I think the necessary changes won't happen. Brace yourselves and prepare for the global economic crash.
You advocate for a new economic plan that works for fewer people, the GOP has the same plan. Humans are not the smartest animal on the planet. If they were, they wouldn't be obsessed with destroying it.
The World does need a stable population growth so that there are enough young to replace the old.
Yep, employees are fighting each other over work, and it's the one who puts in most who keeps the job, which sacrifices free time, as well as personal life such as family development. I think the core issue is people have stopped complaining, which has lead to people believing in working 50-60 hours a week to be normal.
But we do complain. Only, we usually complain about pointless things or each other.The rich love seeing the working and middle classes fight. Keeps them in power and the rest of us down
@@detectiverick9934 The rich don't think less of you, they think less *about* you (than you think they do).
You guys have insane work weeks! Max I work is 40 hours a week. I live in the UK
It’s not a problem, it’s the solution… it’s the solution to the very large problem of overpopulation, climate change, shrinking resources, shrinking habitable land and much more. Therefore we should embrace it! However, for the quality of life of the remaining population a soft landing is preferred, so a population rate just below 2 is probably best.
Why does this discussion focus exclusively on the problems. Population decline is not a disaster. It creates problems (as discussed in this video) and benefits (not mentioned). These include: reduced impact on the environment due to reduced consumption, fewer vehicles, less energy use, less mining, less travel, less agriculture etc etc etc. It also reduces the need for houses, schools, workplaces etc etc.
You are right. But the politicians are shit-scared because they keep winning elections by promising generous pensions to a certain cohort that is very large and influential; those pensions can only be maintained by an ever-growing population. So they have to frame it as the one big issue.
Let's just ignore the fact he just called puerto rico a country.
And Ontario
All south america is a colony too
Not to mention a massive portion of Puerto Rico's "population decline" came from a huge exodus in the wake of Hurricane Maria, not falling fertility rates.
@@PatrickDavis28 Yeah, as a Puerto Rican, I don't think the issue is fertility rates. Its just people moving to the US, all in a very short span of time. Hurricane Maria made it worse though, but the issue was already there
It kinda is
Migration is just a quick fix that is available right now. In the not so long term, population decline will hit hard everywhere.
We are currently at 7.9 billion worldwide. I would say any decrease would be desirable.
World Population grow until 2100
Increased automation magnifies the productivity of each remaining worker. That's one important variable he didn't discuss.
@@muysli.y1855 not quite. At 2100 it will be already declining. From what i have read a few months ago the "highest" point of population will be around 2070. And around 2100 we will already be at under 9 billion again
In 79 years when we hit 10 billion. A lot can change in 79 years to push that growth up higher and longer.
The reason of dropping rate in Latvia is that there is almost no future, salary here is low(it's high only for those "smartheads" in the government.)
The prices in store keep getting more and more expensive, a lot of people now can't even afford their favourite meals or products, because they keep getting more expensive, and a lot of people who work in a minimum wage works, need to count their last euros to survive until next wage.
Also utility prices and taxes are getting 2 and even 4 times more expensive.
Also a lot of professions are no use in Latvia, and also another reason is weather and geographical condition, weather here is pretty wet and in winter it's cold because of wetness and also in summer it's too hot because of wet air. And also a lot of people emigrate to other countries with better life quality, for example, Scandinavia, Canada, USA, western Europe etc.
Our language is also slowly shrinking, because people who live abroad start forgetting it and don't teach it to their children's and also we have a lot of Russian people who don't learn Latvian language(mostly old ones). And also English is moderately overtaking Latvian language in Latvia.
And also Latvia is one of those countries that will be under water if water level keeps growing.
Everyone in the comment: having 1 kid is hard
My cousin family who had 12 kids: ok
People don’t have time or money to have children because we’re all busy working to keep the millionaires and billionaires in private jets, houses and of course the huge hoarded bank accounts.
When I was young, my parents had about the same as I had on a fairly reasonable single salary.
Today i would get way less and have to work way more hours.
We’re being squeezed.
Thats the real reason of this problem. We buy too much shit we don't need and in that pursuit of nothing we make excuses of not having kids.
@@digitalmohsin no…the reason is we’re being squeezed. Asking folks to only survive so they can procreate is piss poor. Folks want to live, and they want their children to be able to live and live nicely, not just survive. If you can’t make a better world for your kids, why have them?
@@bdott1538 Not really, there are people being born in Africa and Asia that are living without 90% of the stuff we take for granted in USA. I can say this as I grew up in one such country where there was no electricity for 10 hrs per day. My car didn't have airbags, I didn't have Alexa, smart bulbs, fancy mattresses, TVs, smart watches, instantpot, entertainment subscriptions still I managed to come to US and still doing better than most people here. The point is our mentality is we gotta have it cuz he/she has it. We consume beyond our means. It's not hard to have two kids we have been having kids for centuries and never faced such shitty time as today.
@@digitalmohsin I have only a few airbags in my car since I only buy used. Well some would call me old fashioned and over the hill but I pride myself on wasting much less than others and not being with people just because of their money or material possessions
@@digitalmohsin really? This thinking is stupid you know? Buy s...t we don't need. Dude have you ever tried living as a monk or a farmer? Do you know how hard firstly mentally this work is? People buy as you called s...t they don't need, cuz they want to feel life, what it is like to live luxurious life. Our parents sold their souls to earn money. Money is the thing which really brings you happiness, i know it sounds harsh, but it is a reality. People constantly look tvs read journals, they see how freakingly great the life of rich people is. But not all of us are talented, but we all want the same thing, so this is why people are dying out
In Serbia the average salary is in the range of 300-400 euros. Impossible to have kids with such low wages.
How do we fix ballkans man ;-; There has to be a way *snif*
@@bajlozi6873 balkans never been good
@@niggacockball7995 they were until the Turks came along. And then theres the two balkan wars, two world wars and a few civil wars.
@@elseggs6504 Slavs should have united, and never let Turks invade the Balkans
@@ireneuszpyc6684 maybe, but thats quite unlikely. Not even turkic people did that. And I think the Rus had entirely different issues.
Nice
I am so sad with the situation in my country Greece 🇬🇷. I love my motherland, i love my people and I hope we can see better days in the future!
The main problem in every country is a cultural one. Having children has a low priority, People say "i will have children only after this and that and money and a bigger house, basically only when my life will be perfect" and it is an impossible to fulfill. It's also about expectations and confidence in the future. While in absolute terms life has never been so good, many people don't see any reason to be optimistic about the future.
No it's mainly legal. Signing a marital contract for a man has become an acceptation to becoming a slave for his future ex-wife and the State, check the stats on divorce. And having children is taking the risk to go in prison. For a man, this is the worst contract possible.
This
@JDRmm98 exactly
True especially as a 22yo women I have spent my entire life in education, I’m only graduating now and haven’t lived or experienced life the way I’ve always wanted to do for example travelling the world. The idea of having children now gives me so much anxiety, once you have kids your life is not yours anymore everything you do revolves around your kids.
@@emulan5887 yes that's what i was trying to say, and perhaps you could afford to have a child (i don't know your situation). It's more about cultural choices than economics. Overall people are better of today than ever before, perhaps the economic reasons have to do with wealth expectations more than objective reasons.
Population decline on planet earth: GREAT !!
It is pretty good news.
no just in developed countries while it is exploding in poor countries like Africa and middle east. even in my country Afghanistan, despite war and poverty, it is so much increasing. we really dont know what to do with our people
@@masihullahhasanyar1084 What is your problem? Your pple dead in war of 20 years and they need to recover it. So I don’t get why you need declining population or i misunderstood y?
@@halalpolice7544 well. Having a young generation is a blessing if the economy works well and there are enough jobs, else it will increase the crime rate and will provide basis for their recruitment in terrorist groups. This is exactly what we are seeing now. Overpopulation while lack of investment
there was a population boom in the 50's and now that is correcting itself. Short term pain for long term gain.
Yeah but you’ve got to factor in what’s affecting those individual countries for example Puerto Rico has been copping it environmentally speaking while Japan has an atrocious fertility rate.
In Australia, commencing in the 1990s, the minimum age for eligibility for nation-wide access to the government pension was raised at a slow, pre-set rate for women from 60 to match men at 65, then for both men and women from 65 to 67. The increase was slow enough that it reached 67 only this year (2023). The education campaign explaining the reason, was good enough to minimise opposition within the public.
Man, I'm starting to think an economic system based on constant growth is unsustainable or something.
It is unsustainable
Lmao, so many right wing idiots in this comment section who want to force people to have sex and make babies
Likewise for constant reduction. Barring improvements from technology, the best case is a stable population that stays somewhat uniform in size *and composition* over time.
@RoastWorthy leave the west and all of civilization. you are a detriment.
For someone from Pakistan where population has exponentially exploded in the last two decades, this all seems surreal. Before I lived overseas, my gf from a village in Pakistan had 9 brothers and sisters. Nine! And that wasn’t a particularly exceptional number for the villages.
It’s not so much religion as it is the communal way of life.
@@qwerasdliop2810 that's not a impressive dream.
@@qwerasdliop2810 hope it never happens
@@qwerasdliop2810 even India population is now stabalising with Fertility rate of 2.2
@@doandroidsdream1748 how about no people at all?
@@qwerasdliop2810 i dream of machinery and robots replace humans
Not so long ago people were freaking out about over population...
this seems worse
Could you please make a video on why the birth rates are so high in countries with low GDP?
I like the way we simultaneously fret about how many jobs are being replaced by machines or computers or given to China and also worry about a declining population. Oh and throw in concerns about housing costs, resource depletion and usage.
Actually China's workforce is becoming so industrialized, that their jobs are moving to Malaysia, Vietnam, and India.
@@KRYMauL Unless they move to America the point stands. We shipped and ship manufacturing and office (India) jobs out of the country while the elite create a false narrative about population declines because it means they won’t get as rich as with continuous population growth. Particularly from real estate appreciation.
@@lockbert99 Real estate "appreciation" does nothing except cover your legacy for inflation because no matter what inflation will occur.
Also, there are many office jobs still in the US they are just not call center center.
In contrast, there are many manufacturing jobs as well.
Source for manufacturing from census.gov www.census.gov/library/stories/2020/10/manufacturing-still-among-top-five-united-states-employers.html
@@KRYMauL It doesn’t matter if there are many. We import people (which makes talk of population decline ridiculous) and export jobs. So the situation has gotten worse for workers. Only a country run by the rich would export jobs and import workers.
Real estate appreciation does more than cover inflation. You buy real estate with massive fixed loans. You get the appreciation on what you put in plus the amount that was bought with debt. And real estate appreciates faster than inflation since land is a scarce finite commodity being bid on by an continuously increasing population.
@@lockbert99 Every country is run by the rich, mate. How about you stay in school and get a job on wall street.
I am from Botswana and our highly educated working-age demographic is being heavily poached by Canada, the US, the UK, and Australia...it's incredibly sad to watch and it has been a major concern for a while now. there should be strict policies that guard against poaching highly skilled individuals from developing nations so that we don't get stuck in that "developing" phase. but at the end of the day, I do understand that the wages here are frustratingly low while the cost of living is as high as that of high-income countries...sighs heavily...
As a point of interest... I remember back in 90s my country (Guyana, South America) had a mass exodus of teachers to Botswana as a result of recruitment drives.
People go where the money is, Larona. That has never changed. That is especially true with highly educated and skilled workers. I wouldn't blame the countries that hire these people, but rather your own government for not addressing the problem of how to hold those highly educated, skilled workers in country.
@@KESAUNDRAMAlves I never knew! Truly interesting. I believe at the time we did not have enough citizen professionals...my parents were highschoolers in the 90s and they affirm having had teachers from parts of Africa, South America, and Europe
@@michaeldobson107 I agree with you entirely.
@@michaeldobson107 mf said “poached” like those countries go out of their way to nab their population 😂😭 trust me, they don’t need to when everyone is coming to them
My country faces this problem --- awareness is increasing. What to do? Nothing. Just let things play out naturally -- most of us will end up working until we die
Isn't there a severe birthrate problem in South Korea too, right now?
Yeah that's true same with Taiwan too. East Asia also faces the same situation as Europe and the West when it comes to birthrate
What an irony people used to fear about overpopulation some years back.
The global population is still growing. Its only these countries in decline, mostly from the west
@@maxbraddy8003 true but global population too will reach its peak and decline
@@maxbraddy8003 where the pollution are at their worse
Overpopulation was never an issue. Underpopulation is
overpopulation is an issue, we do not have unlimited production
"Spain, Quebec, Ireland"
Dude Quebec is still a province, don't provoke another referendum again, lol.
Vive le Québec Libre 😏
@@ethanelpendejo good luck 🙂
Destabilizing countries since 1490s. British will be british 🤣🤣
German here.
Without immigration, my country would loose 200.000 citizens each year.
I don´t think this is a problem at all.
And if taxes and all the other nonsense that Germany thinks it has to pay for wasn´t so high, the economy would still allow us to provide a decent life for all retired people.
As long as we fund everybody else in the world though, it is a different scenario.
Hmmm..sounds just like my perspective here in the U.S.A...
Puerto Rico: on a list containing only countries
America: ...que?