Why do people keep sleeping on Sorato? He won the overall bouldering and lead in the world cups, as well as many first places. He was 2nd in the world championships in lead and 4th in bouldering and combined. Nobody is even remotely close to how consistent he is
No one is sleeping on Sorato, besides this I feel like every podcast from climbing gold to struggle podcast to other youtube vids thinks Sorato is the biggest contender for gold with the only possible drawback being mentality due to him being young. Brandon is sleeping on him a lil but thats kinda it
Brandon is being paid by Adam and magnus bc of his brand deal lol he has no clue what he is talking about. The mental game isn’t even an issue bc sarato has proven himself on the biggest stages already
I definitely agree, she's strong in both bouldering and lead making her even more of a threat, although I wouldn't say on the podium just because of the slip ups she ends to have.
@@matejnovosad9152 she needs to perform really well in lead (which is not impossible) to qualify. But it will be very hard after poor boulder performance.
@@procerator she got two tops in a boulder round that was very much outside her comfort zone, this was actually quite a good performance from her. She will almost 100% rock lead, has a really good chance to be in final
He legit flashed the 2nd problem and got the 1st problem on his second try. The dude had more points than the majority of the other climbers after just two boulders lmao. He’s a beast at 17 years old
So just for contexts the results have come through for the men and here they are: 1st Toby Roberts (7th) 2nd Sorato Anraku (5th) 3rd Jakob Schubert (1st) 4th Colin Duffy (4th) 5th Hamish MacArthur (-) 6th Adam Ondra (2nd) 7th Alberto Gines Lopez (-) 8th Paul Jenft (-) Didn't Qualify for Finals 10th Tomoa Narisaki (3rd) 11th Sam Avezou (6th) 15th Lee Do-hyun (8th) So overall : 5/8 finalists predicted 1 correct position predicted 1 correct medalist predicted
I think there's a good chance Adam drops the ball and we see Jakob, Sorato and Tomoa on the podium. Ai Mori and Seo Chae-hyun not even in the top eight, but Erin McNeice? Dude you're tripping.
@@InterwovenElementschaehyun is top 3 in lead. Her, ai Mori, and Janja have literally dominated the podium for lead. If that’s not consistent not sure what is.
@@MrWhatev4r Exactly. Neither Mori nor Chae-hyun are amongst the top boulderers, but to put neither of them into the finals is just wild. The lists feels to me that he ranks people based on experience + bouldering strength, not based on how they actually performed this season.
It would be all set for Magnus on the podium. After all, France, where the Olympics take place, is the biggest chalk-producing country in the world (which, on the other hand, could also mean they don't keep enough for Magnus).
How can you claim to watch competition climbing without including Ai Mori AND ranking Soratu so low? You've clearly not even watched the 2023 or 2024 IFSC season. AI Mori, who is the only person to have beaten Janja in lead THREE TIMES in recent memory (Bern 2023, Edinburgh 2022, and Koper 2022) and will wipe the floor with anyone else if Janja isn't there. She has at least an excellent chance of a podium. And Soratu might be a little inconsistent but he's better than Tomoa in bouldering and Jakob in lead on his best days. He's definitely a podium contender if not favorite to win.
I might be wrong, but Sorato never beat Jacob in leads.. and Sorato's lead form has been a little off, especially in his last lead comp on Innsbruck. I hope that doesn't set his metal game back. But am so so happy to see him perform well in the boulder qualia
Not sure if Adam said it too, but Jacob Schubert mentioned after his first-place finish in the climb where he qualified for the Olympics that Sorato is one of the main threats/climbers nowadays (I don't remember the exact words). However, when the reporter asked him to name someone good whom he will compete against in the Olympics, he mentioned Sorato.
Also Toby / Dohyun and especially Sorato are the biggest "double threats" ever! And you're sleeping on the two lead monsters, Ai and Chae-hyun for finals!.
I think you placed Toby and Sorato way too low (But I am biased towards Toby), I think Colin might be a bit too high, Tomoa lead is just a bit too weak to get on the podium imo, hard to tell where Adam will place and Jakob has a very strong chance of winning and so does Alberto. It would be cool to see Alex Megos up there but realistically I think comp climbing (Especially bouldering) doesn't suit his style. For the women I think Ai could have a chance depending on the bouldering (Her size really just plays against her) as her lead is just so dominant
Agree on everything you said! Mori just has to hope for less flashy setting (small chance since they will go all out to showcase Janjas dynamic style) Sorato has better chances than Tomoa imo! Tomoa can flash all 4, or miss every top! Toby has been training a lot in Japan (with the owner of B-pump and Tomoas coach) and he could smash both comps! Just hoping no French get a medal 😅
@Climbing Stuff does not know what he's saying and clearly has not seen 2023-2024 IFSC comps. He puts Sorato on 5th and does not acknowledge the existence of Ai Mori. Also Toby Roberts and Dohyun Lee are actually good at both bouldering and lead and are actually the few people who have been consistently on the finals for both lead and bouldering. Before Sorato debut, Dohyun Lee was literally always on the podium.
You need to watch more comp climbing my guy. The mispronunciations were egregious 😂 Also Sorato in 5th is craaazy, my boy is literally consistency incarnate. The question is whether or not he can withstand the pressure.
So, since semis are done we can say that he wasn't that far off. Who would've thought that Tomoa and Sam Avezou wouldn't qualify after quite strong bouldering result. Also, my condolences to Lee Dohyun and Megos fans.
@@tovawr the setters weren’t the problem, the climbers weren’t reading the route as intended (even though of course there are different ways to do it) getting the toe hook with the right food was much more secure. No one fell who used that method.
Love you bro but u lowkey need to keep up with ifsc events more, a lot of the qualifiers are perennial finals climbers, you’d know way more about some of these climbers. Jenft, Van Duysen, MacArthur, etc have all had really strong performances this past season
This is list has suprised me and I hope you are wrong about them all. no offense. Not putting Ai mori in the list is insane. Sorato Anraku I believe has a better chance at making podium than Tomoa (even though I want Tomoa to take gold). Also Jessica Pilz is good but I really don't see her being up there as I believe that Mori will take her spot.
08.08.2024 Woman list turned out to be worse then mens. No Zhang Yuetong, Miho Nonaka and Natalia Grossman in the finals. Heartbreaking for Miho missing the #8 sport by 1 point. PS: I need to apologize for Ai Mori fans, you were right.
Wow! If you're going to run this channel and make videos like this, you really should watch some world cups. These climbers who you've never heard of and can't pronounce their names - they're all well known climbers. You think Ai Mori and Chaehyun Seo won't even make the finals? You think the two best comp climbers in the world (Sorato and Toby) both won't make the podium? Crazy talk.
i feel like you just cant have been watching world cups based on your predictions and not being able to pronounce staple athletes names. These guys are at like all the events and you dont know how to say their names 🤨 Toby, sorato, ai are being slept on so hard in these predictions. Theyre incredibly consistent with great results
Have you watched any of the recent world cups or were you just mispronouncing all the names as a joke. Also, Sorato won the overall in both bouldering and lead last season so he can definitely top the lead route and all the boulders.
Anraku is low key a beast, I think we might see a double japanese podium. Now, NO AI MORI??? She's the 2nd most likely behind Janja to win but she's not even on the top 8...
No doubt Ai is great at lead, but how she performs in bouldering depends heavily on the problem... I love Ai and hope she can podium, but I felt that Natalia Grossman, Brooke Raboutou and Jessica Pilz are the likeliest contenders for silver and bronze
@@clawwestfall8799 after today's semi in bouldering, I can only hope that the lead route is hard or she may not make it to final. Unfortunately there's no women's boulder semi-final coverage in my country... But looking at the result, I'm guessing boulder 1 and 3 are a bit reachy for her? Can't believe she has 16 attempts on boulder 1 itself..
Megos is such a cool guy. I follow his YT channel since he made it, and he was always so positive, calm and nice. Never seen him angry or frustrated. He must be protected at all costs!
The reality is competition is so packed and climbing comp are so unpredictable (Tomoa slip), that except for Janja, everything can happen. Adam Ondra can win, but he might not qualify for finals as well. Janja will be on a podium for sure, but she might not win. I my opinion 10 men and 12 women are capable of winning medals, and most of them can win gold. It's not like the other sports, where you can easily predict who will be where on a list, based on their previous results and except for the Janja, top 10 men and women are very close.
Jakob had a horrible bouldering season. Ondra has been performing much better there. However Jakob has been outclimbing Ondra on the lead wall, something that if he fixes, he has much better chance of podium than Jakob. Sorato wins gold or at least silver. I'm not sure what you've been watching the last year, but if you don't have Sorato as a huge favorite, you might be watching some old recordings or something.
Well, it is definitely a pretty big start, but it is only semis. He will definitely qualify for the finals and we will see. Just keep in mind that boulder semis where very low % comp. Boulders 2, 3 and 4 had very low % dynamic moves that is why it was hard to stick them within 5 minutes. Also, Adam gave up boulder 1 after 1 attempt for some reason. He was at the top just didn`t figured out how to match final hold.
The disrespect to Sorato is wild. The only one in the field who can realistically get 100/100. Better boulderer than jacob, which may well prove the differentiator. Sorato gold, jacob silver, bronze is a wild toss up
@@procerator and 4th overall in semis and finals. She's pretty much guaranteed to be a podium threat because she is clearly a top 2 lead climber. She struggles with big dynamic boulders so that part tends to be inconsistent. She may win a silver/gold in the next olympics if she keeps her training up
The betting odds on Draft Kings last night were as follows: Men: Anraku Schubert Roberts Duffy Ondra Dohyun Narasaki Megos Lopez Women: Garnbret Raboutou Mori Grossman Nonaka Chae-Hyun Pilz Avezou Bertone Janja's odds were -650 meaning you'd bet $650 to only win $100 if she takes gold.
I think your predictions show a bias towards competitors who peaked before Tokyo - with the men Toby Roberts and Sorato Anraku are both way more consistent and have far better results from recent comps than anyone else except Jakob Schubert. There are great competitors in the whole field, but those three have to be the favourites for the podium by a looong way. Ondra is the greatest rock climber of all time, but Schubert had the edge on plastic for a long time and especially now Ondra just isn't up there on plastic anymore - I can't see him in the top five unless Sorato or Roberts both completely screw up. Narasaki too is too weak on lead and has a strong match in boulder in Anraku and Schubert so that 3rd place seems very unlikely. I'd guess Roberts 3rd, Schubert 2nd and Anraku 1st as the podium. Then for the Women your calls are good over all, but again skew towards older competitors - climbers like Nonaka are legends, and have a shot at the podium, but compared to Ai Mori who is the only competitor to have the lead chops to beat Janja multiple times in world cups, one time while climbing with a bad stomach ache her inconsistency in boulder is completely outweighed by *almost* always being first or second on the lead wall. She's an absolute monster, and given a set of boulders where she can stay in touch with the competition she's got a really good chance. Grossman is a good pick for second / third, but again she was really good before Tokyo, and it feels like you haven't actually watched any of Ai Mori's comp climbing, half of your comments are so surprised to not see her mentioned because she's no random wildcard who got lucky to qualify, she's a top 5 competitor at least. Janja is obviously the one to beat, but my podium pick would be Grossman 3rd, Mori 2nd and Garnbret 1st.
Ai Mori will be on the podium, Sorato will be higher. In the men's top 8, Alberto Lopez will also be there (he has had quite a good season). Adam will probably be out of podium again (his shoulder is screwed, but who knows, he is a well-known lover of pain).
@@procerator yeah, sadly it'll probably be a race for second place, but I really really hope Natalia is able to put some serious pressure on Janja and I'm rooting for Miho to get another podium. Obviously it's an absolute privilege to live in a time of an athlete that is pushing the sport to new height before our very eyes, but imo every master needs someone to rival them, both for their sake and ours as spectators.
@@procerator just looked up the results cuz I haven't been able to watch it yet and I am UPSET 😭 Looks to have been an absolutely brutal boulder semifinal tho so it might even out for the final tbh
I agree with your gold positions for both men and women, but I disagree with most of the rest of it. xD I think Sorato has a better chance than Ondra of making podium by quite a long margin tbh. I would like Ondra to medal, just cos it's basically the one competition he's never medaled in... but I don't think he will if I'm being honest. His performance the last few seasons has been kind of middle of the pack. I think Jakob Schubert, Sorato Anraku are gonna be on the podium. I think Jakob has a really good chance of winning and Sorato probably won't win, but I can see him in second or third place. Then there's Tomoa, Adam and Alberto and maybe Toby. I think one of them will be the third podium. I would say Alberto has the best chance out of them. He's been crushing in bouldering, and is significantly better than Tomoa in lead. However, he did have a toe injury a few weeks ago so that might be an issue. Adam has been doing meh in bouldering, though he still slays in lead. So I feel like him and Tomoa have roughly the same chance of making podium. Toby... who the fuck knows lol I feel like Toby will either make podium or be like 7th lol The remaining finals spots I'm not super sure on. I think Sam Avezou and Colin Duffy are the likeliest. But Dohyun Lee, Paul Jenft, Hannes van Duysen and Yannick Flohe are also contenders. Dohyun did have a shoulder injury I think at the OQS, so that might come into play though. If I had to pick the top 8 men, I'd probably go with: 1. Jakob Schubert 2. Sorato Anraku 3. Tomoa Narasaki 4. Alberto Ginez-Lopez 5. Adam Ondra 6. Toby Roberts 7. Sam Avezou 8. Colin Duffy For the women, I'm quite confident in Janja. I think there would have to be something really unexpected happening for her not to win. And probably the world would have to be ending for her not to podium at all. Jessie Pilz I think will podium. She could be silver, she could be bronze. the third podium spot... I'll be honest, I'm not sold on Natalia. I haven't seen her that much at world cups the past 2 seasons. I'm not sure if she even competed in lead, but she certainly didn't medal in lead. In bouldering, she is probably second only to Janja (and has an outside chance of beating Janja). But I'm just not sure. She hasn't been competing much, so I don't know what to say. Brooke And Chaeyun Seo have been pretty consistent across the past two seasons and I'd probably pick one of them for the third podium spot. Ai Mori is similar to Natalia but on the lead side of things. She is second to only Janja in lead and has a chance of beating Janja in lead. But her bouldering is a bit lacking, although occasionally, she pulls one out of the bag. So Brooke, Natalia, Cayeun Seo and Ai Mori I think are the main contenders for the third podium spot. Brooke and Chaeyun have been more consistent across both disciplines, but Natalia and Ai are neck in neck with Janja in their preferred discipline. The remaining final spots I'd give to Miho, Erin, though Zelia Avezou and Genia Kazbekova are also contenders. If I had to pick the top 8 women, I'd go with: 1. Janja Garnbret 2. Jessica Pilz 3. Brooke Raboutou 4. Ai Mori 5. Chaeyun Seo 6. Natalia Grossman 7. Erin McNeice 8. Miho Nonaka Thanks for coming to my TED talk
I completely forgot Orianne. I feel like she's quite unpredictable, but has actually beaten Janja in bouldering. Hmm... I'm not sure about her. I think she will be in the finals. I would say she has to replace either Miho or Erin. Hard to say who, but I'd probably give her 7th place.
@@itsmyboardwhotalkSchubert isn't German and Megos isn't Austrian, they're not on the same team. To respond to OP, Megos at least was one of the physically strongest climbers if you mean raw finger and arm strength, but unless the boulders and lead route are all based around static movements on 2 finger pockets and monos his trouble with modern styles and bouldering in general make him almost a write off. It would be amazing if he could make finals though, I'd be so happy if Megos, Ondra and Schubert could all compete together on that finals stage.
This video was hard to watch. It is clear he doesn't keep up with pro climbing. Luckily for him all you need is a camera and internet connection to post on youtube.
well his top 8 was pretty decent guesses if look just at boulder semis. It doesn't have van Duysen or Hamish but they didn't top anything and are in top 8 only because of attempts.
@@user-xo3qx4cw6g Im just talking about how he didn't know how to say some of the most famous peoples name, he clearly didnt watch the qualifiers and brushed sorato and ai more off like they are just randoms.
The 2 per country rule prevented Futabo Ito from participation - she finished ahead of 5 or 6 women who are climbing. Oh well ... rules is rules but we still love you 'Tabo.
Yeah it’s something they need to evaluate. There’s comes a balance between having diversity - including the different nations in the Olympics - and ensuring that the best athletes are actually competing. Some sports in the games depend on the national teams and winning is more team based but in climbing it’s more like every person is competing for themselves so it feels strange.
Megos is a great climber, but i don't really thing comp climbing, especially bouldering is really his style. I get why he is not in the top 8, really hope he does well tho! And leavind Ai mori but also Seo out of the top 8 is indeed crazy
Cap. Anraku will most likely podium. He is the top boulderer and top lead climber of 2023/2024. If anyone is a dark horse it’s gines lopez based on his performance in training with other competitors like Toby Roberts and Avezou. I can agree with Jakob Schubert and tomoa narasaki possibly placing podium but you’re crazy if you think Adam Ondra is gonna podium. Also dohyun Lee is way too low on ranking. He’s one of the strongest boulderer alongside Anraku. Lead questionable but bouldering definitely has one up on most of the other climbers. I say all this based on having watched all of men’s ifsc comps
@@user-xo3qx4cw6g anyone who watches ifsc would agree that dohyun is one of the top comp climbers. Comp bouldering always has been a tossup regardless but if you’re implying that a poor performance in Paris equates to being a weak comp climber, that gotta be the most shortsighted thing ever.
Ai More has beaten Garnbret on more than occasion in lead and whether she stands on the podium may be determined by the setting of the boulder problems, as being the shortest competitor, she has struggled on height dependant problems in world cups but definitely has the gas tank to win Lead. Who knows anything can happen, Also Raboutou was very close to getting a medal in the previous olympics so am interested to see how things play out...
@@proceratorhe's talking about lead, and in lead ai mori has beaten Janja more than once during a season where Janja purposely did not do boulders to focus on lead so she was definitely in form.
This combined format is extremely hard to predict. Depending on how "hard" or "easy" the boulders and routes will be. If bouders are hard "meaning few tops" and the routes with a very obvious crux that sees most of the climbers falling on the same spot, boulder specialists like Tomoa are in a good place. On the other hand if lead route is super hard it is possible for lead specialist to catch up a lot of points. The only things I feel confident about are Janja gold and Jackob on the podium. My hopes for podiums (not totaly impossible I think) : Sorato, Jackob, Toby or Tomoa Janja, Nathalia, Ai Very excited to watch all of this.
Nice job with your prediction… definitely forgot about Alberto on the rankin. Underestimating him as you did on your previous video explaining the last Olympics 👌🏼
Let me know who you think will make the podium!
daddy ondra
My boi Tamoa!!
Sorato Anraku, Jakob Schubert and Toby Roberts or Tomoa Narasaki
sarato, toby, for sure
3rd place idk, could be anyone
janja, ai mori,
3rd could be anyone
Ai Mori
bro litterally forgot Ai Mori's existance...
he doesnt know what he is talking about.
Yeah exactly. She is the only threat to Janja on lead and while inconsistent in bouldering will find any beta break there is.
Gotta agree with this, I see Ai getting silver. unless there's just a boulder she can't reach...
Ai has beat Janja multiple times in lead. But not good at boulder at all
My first thought when I saw his top 8 for women 😅😅
Why do people keep sleeping on Sorato? He won the overall bouldering and lead in the world cups, as well as many first places. He was 2nd in the world championships in lead and 4th in bouldering and combined. Nobody is even remotely close to how consistent he is
No one is sleeping on Sorato, besides this I feel like every podcast from climbing gold to struggle podcast to other youtube vids thinks Sorato is the biggest contender for gold with the only possible drawback being mentality due to him being young. Brandon is sleeping on him a lil but thats kinda it
Brandon is being paid by Adam and magnus bc of his brand deal lol he has no clue what he is talking about. The mental game isn’t even an issue bc sarato has proven himself on the biggest stages already
@@junyuzhang414 its like, his opinion man.
That's what I'm sayin man, Sorato has been crazy consistent this past season
I think Sticky Sorato will take 3rd personally.
sorato at 5? has bro not watched any world cups in the past 1,5 years?
This is also confirmed by his ridiculous pronunciation.
Who’s here after Toby snagged the dub
Also rip tomoa fans
@@max9940 as a Tamoa and Toby fan I am in devastating confusion
Ai Mori not in the top 8 😭bro she can do top 5 for sure!
I definitely agree, she's strong in both bouldering and lead making her even more of a threat, although I wouldn't say on the podium just because of the slip ups she ends to have.
Lets see if she qualifies to finals
@@matejnovosad9152 she needs to perform really well in lead (which is not impossible) to qualify. But it will be very hard after poor boulder performance.
@@procerator she got two tops in a boulder round that was very much outside her comfort zone, this was actually quite a good performance from her. She will almost 100% rock lead, has a really good chance to be in final
@@gkoleva 2 tops would be enough in yesterdays men boulder. This will not be enough to qualify unless she tops lead.
Ai Mori could for sure make womens podium. She is very consistent in lead, ig it will be up to how she performs in bouldering
the answer is - poor
If she sent that one problem that she figured out too late then she would have had bronze. Pretty crazy
bros predection is stuck in 2022-23
putting sorato at 5 is outrageous
He legit flashed the 2nd problem and got the 1st problem on his second try. The dude had more points than the majority of the other climbers after just two boulders lmao. He’s a beast at 17 years old
So just for contexts the results have come through for the men and here they are:
1st Toby Roberts (7th)
2nd Sorato Anraku (5th)
3rd Jakob Schubert (1st)
4th Colin Duffy (4th)
5th Hamish MacArthur (-)
6th Adam Ondra (2nd)
7th Alberto Gines Lopez (-)
8th Paul Jenft (-)
Didn't Qualify for Finals
10th Tomoa Narisaki (3rd)
11th Sam Avezou (6th)
15th Lee Do-hyun (8th)
So overall :
5/8 finalists predicted
1 correct position predicted
1 correct medalist predicted
And 4 of those finalists are the most obvious picks.
What was outrageous in this prediction is not putting Sorato on a podium.
So to follow up, here are the women's results:
1st Jajna Garnbret (1st)
2nd Brooke Raboutou (4th)
3rd Jessica Pilz (3rd)
4th Ai Mori (-)
5th Erin McNeice (8th)
6th Seo Chae-hyun (-)
7th Oceana McKenzie (-)
8th Oriane Bertone (7th)
Didn't Qualify for Finals
9th Miho Nonaka (5th)
11th Natalia Grossman (2nd)
13th Zhang Yuetong (6th)
So overall:
5/8 correct finalists
2 correct positions
2 correct medalists
@@matthiasschinkel8180 "Predicting" Janja being 1st doesn't count.
@danielwesterlund1905 Normally I would 100% agree but with her finger tweak on boulder 4 it kept things close
I think there's a good chance Adam drops the ball and we see Jakob, Sorato and Tomoa on the podium. Ai Mori and Seo Chae-hyun not even in the top eight, but Erin McNeice? Dude you're tripping.
I love Chae_hyun, but I do think she's not the most consistent still, AI for sure will be in the finals, no shot she doesn't get that far.
@@InterwovenElementschaehyun is top 3 in lead. Her, ai Mori, and Janja have literally dominated the podium for lead. If that’s not consistent not sure what is.
@@MrWhatev4r Exactly. Neither Mori nor Chae-hyun are amongst the top boulderers, but to put neither of them into the finals is just wild. The lists feels to me that he ranks people based on experience + bouldering strength, not based on how they actually performed this season.
@@MrWhatev4r lead yes, boulder no.
@@beckobert yeah, especially Natalia Grossmann seems to be overrated here?
Clear podium:
1. Alex Honnold
2. Magnus
3. Josh Rundle
hannah morris to scoop gold on the women's.
@@asantos704 Her nerves will get the better of her & she's just get pipped by Anna Hazelnutt
It would be all set for Magnus on the podium. After all, France, where the Olympics take place, is the biggest chalk-producing country in the world (which, on the other hand, could also mean they don't keep enough for Magnus).
no ai mori in the womens final is lowk insane
It isn't though. She doesn`t have a chance to beat top dogs in bouldering.
@@procerator She will not beat them in bouldering but crush them in lead. Look what happened this morning ;)
@@andresbriones8054 sure, it all depends on what kind of boulders will be in the finals.
How can you claim to watch competition climbing without including Ai Mori AND ranking Soratu so low? You've clearly not even watched the 2023 or 2024 IFSC season.
AI Mori, who is the only person to have beaten Janja in lead THREE TIMES in recent memory (Bern 2023, Edinburgh 2022, and Koper 2022) and will wipe the floor with anyone else if Janja isn't there. She has at least an excellent chance of a podium.
And Soratu might be a little inconsistent but he's better than Tomoa in bouldering and Jakob in lead on his best days. He's definitely a podium contender if not favorite to win.
Thank you for speaking on behalf of the comp climbing audience this was well written
Everyone underestimates Ai Mori. That's okay, it only makes her appearance on the podium better. If she beats Janja again, i'm going to have a blast
the problem for Ai Mori in the Olympics there are Lead and Boulder come together, but she is definitely in top 5
totally agree, Sotaro just destroyed everyone in bouldering. For sure a good shot at winning gold
I might be wrong, but Sorato never beat Jacob in leads.. and Sorato's lead form has been a little off, especially in his last lead comp on Innsbruck. I hope that doesn't set his metal game back. But am so so happy to see him perform well in the boulder qualia
The winner of Olympic Rock Climbing is the audience listening to Alex Honnold's commentary.
If only he would comment on Olympics, it would insanely good
@@maksimsjevdomkimovs8051 I think I heard he might be an official commentator this year? I may be wrong though
@@maksimsjevdomkimovs8051 He's the official commentator for the US broadcast. He's also talked about the olympics a lot on his podcast.
I don’t think hes there since his wife’s sick. Could be mistaken though
He was going to be there primarily as a correspondent type, not necessarily for commentary. But hey, we can dream!
I am glad that we got at least 1 of the "old guard" making a podium
The title of your next video should be “Boy was I wrong (EMOTIONAL)”
i think even adam ondra himself would say that sorato is most likely to win gold
Not sure if Adam said it too, but Jacob Schubert mentioned after his first-place finish in the climb where he qualified for the Olympics that Sorato is one of the main threats/climbers nowadays (I don't remember the exact words). However, when the reporter asked him to name someone good whom he will compete against in the Olympics, he mentioned Sorato.
Bro forgot about Ai Mori
Nah. In lead she will crush but in the dynamic boulders...
Eleventh in boulder semis. Completely failed 2 boulders.
@@procerator only if she can reach it rip watching today
@@proceratorMade to the final at 4th place, best in lead
@@yuezhang1541 yes, her lead performance was amazing.
Also Toby / Dohyun and especially Sorato are the biggest "double threats" ever! And you're sleeping on the two lead monsters, Ai and Chae-hyun for finals!.
@@dizietz Also Alberto, he may seem like he is not doing much, but he always does the job on both boulder and lead, lead especially
Yeah I predict one of Toby and Sorato is going to pop off and win gold
@@hashimnameer1308 Yeah! Alberto is another very capable climber that can pull off a podium finish if he is in form :)
Dohyun didn`t top a single boulder in semis. Ouch
I don't think ClimbingStuff actually watches IFSC World cup.
Bro you kidding? Have you watched Sorato recently? He is definately making podium
here to confirm sorato fucking destroyed the boulders in the semi-finals
I think you placed Toby and Sorato way too low (But I am biased towards Toby), I think Colin might be a bit too high, Tomoa lead is just a bit too weak to get on the podium imo, hard to tell where Adam will place and Jakob has a very strong chance of winning and so does Alberto. It would be cool to see Alex Megos up there but realistically I think comp climbing (Especially bouldering) doesn't suit his style. For the women I think Ai could have a chance depending on the bouldering (Her size really just plays against her) as her lead is just so dominant
Agree on everything you said! Mori just has to hope for less flashy setting (small chance since they will go all out to showcase Janjas dynamic style) Sorato has better chances than Tomoa imo! Tomoa can flash all 4, or miss every top! Toby has been training a lot in Japan (with the owner of B-pump and Tomoas coach) and he could smash both comps! Just hoping no French get a medal 😅
"basing off statistics" - puts world no.1 on 5th place
Hey man love ur channel! Dont predict anything ever again and stick to ur funny videos, cheers❤️
i like predictions because I can make fun of them
@Climbing Stuff does not know what he's saying and clearly has not seen 2023-2024 IFSC comps. He puts Sorato on 5th and does not acknowledge the existence of Ai Mori. Also Toby Roberts and Dohyun Lee are actually good at both bouldering and lead and are actually the few people who have been consistently on the finals for both lead and bouldering. Before Sorato debut, Dohyun Lee was literally always on the podium.
You need to watch more comp climbing my guy. The mispronunciations were egregious 😂
Also Sorato in 5th is craaazy, my boy is literally consistency incarnate. The question is whether or not he can withstand the pressure.
This aged like fine fine milk
1/8 successful predictions on the men’s 💪🏼😅
Thost lists are criminal 💀
Toby's been climbing really well this summer, but I would love to see Adam get his gold.
MEN: Sorato gold, toby silver, ondra bronze WOMEN: Janja gold, Oriane Silver, Natalia Bronze. WILDCARD!!!!! Erin to pull out a massive performance for bronze
So, since semis are done we can say that he wasn't that far off. Who would've thought that Tomoa and Sam Avezou wouldn't qualify after quite strong bouldering result.
Also, my condolences to Lee Dohyun and Megos fans.
all of those guys fell right at the second section of the lead wall.. what were the setters thinking with that boulder problem?
@@tovawr setter were thinking - "git gud scrubs"
@@procerator true, it's not fair to blame them since this is the biggest comp climbing stage ever. they had to overcook a bit
@@tovawr the setters weren’t the problem, the climbers weren’t reading the route as intended (even though of course there are different ways to do it) getting the toe hook with the right food was much more secure. No one fell who used that method.
Love you bro but u lowkey need to keep up with ifsc events more, a lot of the qualifiers are perennial finals climbers, you’d know way more about some of these climbers. Jenft, Van Duysen, MacArthur, etc have all had really strong performances this past season
Also probably would have been able to actually pronounce their names 😂😂😂
tomoa not even making the finals is insane, the rest of these predictions are just being stuck in the past
This is list has suprised me and I hope you are wrong about them all. no offense. Not putting Ai mori in the list is insane. Sorato Anraku I believe has a better chance at making podium than Tomoa (even though I want Tomoa to take gold). Also Jessica Pilz is good but I really don't see her being up there as I believe that Mori will take her spot.
bro you are so wrong for this, not including ai for finals is crazyyy and putting toby and sorato so low should be a crime
Sleeping on Ai Mori and Chaehyun Seo smh, other than that pretty good and understandable predictions
this didn`t age well
@@procerator it actually aged very well
Leaving out Ai Mori is craaaaazy
no it isnt
Placing Duffy over Anraku is crazy
08.08.2024 Woman list turned out to be worse then mens. No Zhang Yuetong, Miho Nonaka and Natalia Grossman in the finals.
Heartbreaking for Miho missing the #8 sport by 1 point.
PS: I need to apologize for Ai Mori fans, you were right.
The women’s list was actually better. He got 5 of the 8 climbers in the final, including Erin McNeice. 4 for the men
@@derekstanyer actually 5 for man too. And even got the place of Colin Duffy correct :)
Wow! If you're going to run this channel and make videos like this, you really should watch some world cups. These climbers who you've never heard of and can't pronounce their names - they're all well known climbers. You think Ai Mori and Chaehyun Seo won't even make the finals? You think the two best comp climbers in the world (Sorato and Toby) both won't make the podium? Crazy talk.
Boulder #3 cost Jakob the Gold :( Shame because that is the one I would have bet on for him to flash it
i feel like you just cant have been watching world cups based on your predictions and not being able to pronounce staple athletes names. These guys are at like all the events and you dont know how to say their names 🤨 Toby, sorato, ai are being slept on so hard in these predictions. Theyre incredibly consistent with great results
You underestimate Sticky Sorato (the top 3th) and Ai Mori (should be on 5th)
Have you watched any of the recent world cups or were you just mispronouncing all the names as a joke. Also, Sorato won the overall in both bouldering and lead last season so he can definitely top the lead route and all the boulders.
It was not that bad for an American... Come on
TOBY TOBY TOBY FUCKING ROBERRRRTS!!!
Anraku is low key a beast, I think we might see a double japanese podium. Now, NO AI MORI??? She's the 2nd most likely behind Janja to win but she's not even on the top 8...
No doubt Ai is great at lead, but how she performs in bouldering depends heavily on the problem... I love Ai and hope she can podium, but I felt that Natalia Grossman, Brooke Raboutou and Jessica Pilz are the likeliest contenders for silver and bronze
@@edgykay She's not even in the top 8 though
@@priestmarmore6750I do think that she should be at least top 5... But if the lead route is too easy and boulder is hard then she's in trouble 😅
I agree she should be in top 8 but I doubt she will be on podium due to the fact bouldering setting can fuck up her chances...
@@clawwestfall8799 after today's semi in bouldering, I can only hope that the lead route is hard or she may not make it to final. Unfortunately there's no women's boulder semi-final coverage in my country... But looking at the result, I'm guessing boulder 1 and 3 are a bit reachy for her? Can't believe she has 16 attempts on boulder 1 itself..
Bro, I turned this off when you decided that Sorato isn't on the podium.
Almost all misses for men! But nice prediction and very nice video 👏👏
Got 5 of 8, same as women.
Megos is such a cool guy. I follow his YT channel since he made it, and he was always so positive, calm and nice. Never seen him angry or frustrated. He must be protected at all costs!
well well well, how the turnToby's
He did say Toby could win or be last 😂 so I guess that was correct, lol
"Lau-ra Ro...gorra?" Have you really never heard of her? That's nuts.
Bro she got 19th lol
@@thejerrycan519 She climbed 9b outdoors (one of only three women to do so, ever), "broooo" 🤦♂
@@floijd true but in comp climbing especially boulder she suffers
Watching Anraku dominate the semi final really surprised me. Excited for the finals
No offense, but it would only surprise someone who hasn't been following the comps
This aged well
Janja is literally the Thanos of climbing
me watching the video after the men combined medal...
Putting sorato at 5th is crazy he’s placed 1 this year in both diciplines if anyone has the largest chance it’s him
The reality is competition is so packed and climbing comp are so unpredictable (Tomoa slip), that except for Janja, everything can happen. Adam Ondra can win, but he might not qualify for finals as well. Janja will be on a podium for sure, but she might not win.
I my opinion 10 men and 12 women are capable of winning medals, and most of them can win gold.
It's not like the other sports, where you can easily predict who will be where on a list, based on their previous results and except for the Janja, top 10 men and women are very close.
Adam had a decent result in boulder semis. If he performs at his usual level in lead - he will definitely qualify for the finals.
I think Jakob Schubert is very likely to be on the podium.
Watching this after the men's lead semi... Tomoa Narasaki didn't even reach the finals! 😮
neither did Natalia.. those were shocking
Really think Bouldering and Lead shouldve been two separate events. Its SO different. Modern bouldering is vastly different than any lead climbing.
Jakob had a horrible bouldering season. Ondra has been performing much better there. However Jakob has been outclimbing Ondra on the lead wall, something that if he fixes, he has much better chance of podium than Jakob. Sorato wins gold or at least silver. I'm not sure what you've been watching the last year, but if you don't have Sorato as a huge favorite, you might be watching some old recordings or something.
Sorato easy podium
3. Toby
2. Sorato
1. Jacob
3. Brooke
2. Jessie
1. Janja the GOAT
Nah!
1. Anraku
2. Roberts
3. Shubert
P.s. I like Toby, but dammit it don't want to give Matt Groom any satisfaction! (Yes, I'm that petty😂)
This is a reasonable podium for anyone who's watched climbing this season.
3 Anraku
2 Ondra
1 Shubert
- Place Sorato in 5th
- Sorato takes 1st in Bouldering
Let's see how this ages
Well, it is definitely a pretty big start, but it is only semis. He will definitely qualify for the finals and we will see.
Just keep in mind that boulder semis where very low % comp. Boulders 2, 3 and 4 had very low % dynamic moves that is why it was hard to stick them within 5 minutes.
Also, Adam gave up boulder 1 after 1 attempt for some reason. He was at the top just didn`t figured out how to match final hold.
@@user-xo3qx4cw6g well Sorato took 2nd and Toby 1st. Never understimate the new generation.
The disrespect to Sorato is wild. The only one in the field who can realistically get 100/100. Better boulderer than jacob, which may well prove the differentiator. Sorato gold, jacob silver, bronze is a wild toss up
Bro forgetting about Ai Mori and putting Anraku that low shows he hasn't been watching close enough.
You were struggling with those pronunciations like they were a V10.
where is Ai Mori??? insane
She is 11th in boulder after semis.
@@procerator and 4th overall in semis and finals. She's pretty much guaranteed to be a podium threat because she is clearly a top 2 lead climber. She struggles with big dynamic boulders so that part tends to be inconsistent. She may win a silver/gold in the next olympics if she keeps her training up
The betting odds on Draft Kings last night were as follows:
Men:
Anraku
Schubert
Roberts
Duffy
Ondra
Dohyun
Narasaki
Megos
Lopez
Women:
Garnbret
Raboutou
Mori
Grossman
Nonaka
Chae-Hyun
Pilz
Avezou
Bertone
Janja's odds were -650 meaning you'd bet $650 to only win $100 if she takes gold.
I think your predictions show a bias towards competitors who peaked before Tokyo - with the men Toby Roberts and Sorato Anraku are both way more consistent and have far better results from recent comps than anyone else except Jakob Schubert. There are great competitors in the whole field, but those three have to be the favourites for the podium by a looong way. Ondra is the greatest rock climber of all time, but Schubert had the edge on plastic for a long time and especially now Ondra just isn't up there on plastic anymore - I can't see him in the top five unless Sorato or Roberts both completely screw up. Narasaki too is too weak on lead and has a strong match in boulder in Anraku and Schubert so that 3rd place seems very unlikely.
I'd guess Roberts 3rd, Schubert 2nd and Anraku 1st as the podium.
Then for the Women your calls are good over all, but again skew towards older competitors - climbers like Nonaka are legends, and have a shot at the podium, but compared to Ai Mori who is the only competitor to have the lead chops to beat Janja multiple times in world cups, one time while climbing with a bad stomach ache her inconsistency in boulder is completely outweighed by *almost* always being first or second on the lead wall. She's an absolute monster, and given a set of boulders where she can stay in touch with the competition she's got a really good chance. Grossman is a good pick for second / third, but again she was really good before Tokyo, and it feels like you haven't actually watched any of Ai Mori's comp climbing, half of your comments are so surprised to not see her mentioned because she's no random wildcard who got lucky to qualify, she's a top 5 competitor at least.
Janja is obviously the one to beat, but my podium pick would be Grossman 3rd, Mori 2nd and Garnbret 1st.
he put toby in 7th... lol
Ai Mori will be on the podium, Sorato will be higher. In the men's top 8, Alberto Lopez will also be there (he has had quite a good season). Adam will probably be out of podium again (his shoulder is screwed, but who knows, he is a well-known lover of pain).
Womens gold is going to Janja… theres literally no chance for anyone else
No Natalia definitely has a chance, shes about the only one who does.
@@kim98677 Janja got 99.6 in boulder semis. I will not be surprised if she scores 180+ in the finals
@@procerator yeah, sadly it'll probably be a race for second place, but I really really hope Natalia is able to put some serious pressure on Janja and I'm rooting for Miho to get another podium.
Obviously it's an absolute privilege to live in a time of an athlete that is pushing the sport to new height before our very eyes, but imo every master needs someone to rival them, both for their sake and ours as spectators.
@@procerator just looked up the results cuz I haven't been able to watch it yet and I am UPSET 😭
Looks to have been an absolutely brutal boulder semifinal tho so it might even out for the final tbh
@@kim98677 boulders 1 and 3 were basically "fuck short people who can't jump" boulders
Hot take but I dont think adam or tomoa make podium
I agree with your gold positions for both men and women, but I disagree with most of the rest of it. xD
I think Sorato has a better chance than Ondra of making podium by quite a long margin tbh. I would like Ondra to medal, just cos it's basically the one competition he's never medaled in... but I don't think he will if I'm being honest. His performance the last few seasons has been kind of middle of the pack. I think Jakob Schubert, Sorato Anraku are gonna be on the podium. I think Jakob has a really good chance of winning and Sorato probably won't win, but I can see him in second or third place. Then there's Tomoa, Adam and Alberto and maybe Toby. I think one of them will be the third podium. I would say Alberto has the best chance out of them. He's been crushing in bouldering, and is significantly better than Tomoa in lead. However, he did have a toe injury a few weeks ago so that might be an issue. Adam has been doing meh in bouldering, though he still slays in lead. So I feel like him and Tomoa have roughly the same chance of making podium. Toby... who the fuck knows lol I feel like Toby will either make podium or be like 7th lol The remaining finals spots I'm not super sure on. I think Sam Avezou and Colin Duffy are the likeliest. But Dohyun Lee, Paul Jenft, Hannes van Duysen and Yannick Flohe are also contenders. Dohyun did have a shoulder injury I think at the OQS, so that might come into play though.
If I had to pick the top 8 men, I'd probably go with:
1. Jakob Schubert
2. Sorato Anraku
3. Tomoa Narasaki
4. Alberto Ginez-Lopez
5. Adam Ondra
6. Toby Roberts
7. Sam Avezou
8. Colin Duffy
For the women, I'm quite confident in Janja. I think there would have to be something really unexpected happening for her not to win. And probably the world would have to be ending for her not to podium at all. Jessie Pilz I think will podium. She could be silver, she could be bronze. the third podium spot... I'll be honest, I'm not sold on Natalia. I haven't seen her that much at world cups the past 2 seasons. I'm not sure if she even competed in lead, but she certainly didn't medal in lead. In bouldering, she is probably second only to Janja (and has an outside chance of beating Janja). But I'm just not sure. She hasn't been competing much, so I don't know what to say. Brooke And Chaeyun Seo have been pretty consistent across the past two seasons and I'd probably pick one of them for the third podium spot. Ai Mori is similar to Natalia but on the lead side of things. She is second to only Janja in lead and has a chance of beating Janja in lead. But her bouldering is a bit lacking, although occasionally, she pulls one out of the bag. So Brooke, Natalia, Cayeun Seo and Ai Mori I think are the main contenders for the third podium spot. Brooke and Chaeyun have been more consistent across both disciplines, but Natalia and Ai are neck in neck with Janja in their preferred discipline. The remaining final spots I'd give to Miho, Erin, though Zelia Avezou and Genia Kazbekova are also contenders.
If I had to pick the top 8 women, I'd go with:
1. Janja Garnbret
2. Jessica Pilz
3. Brooke Raboutou
4. Ai Mori
5. Chaeyun Seo
6. Natalia Grossman
7. Erin McNeice
8. Miho Nonaka
Thanks for coming to my TED talk
I completely forgot Orianne. I feel like she's quite unpredictable, but has actually beaten Janja in bouldering. Hmm... I'm not sure about her. I think she will be in the finals. I would say she has to replace either Miho or Erin. Hard to say who, but I'd probably give her 7th place.
I am exited to see what Alex Megos will do - I think physically he is the best climber so for him it's the question if he can convert that.
he is not even the most physically climber on his team, lol. sorry had to say that but maybe he is second with jakob.
@@itsmyboardwhotalkSchubert isn't German and Megos isn't Austrian, they're not on the same team.
To respond to OP, Megos at least was one of the physically strongest climbers if you mean raw finger and arm strength, but unless the boulders and lead route are all based around static movements on 2 finger pockets and monos his trouble with modern styles and bouldering in general make him almost a write off. It would be amazing if he could make finals though, I'd be so happy if Megos, Ondra and Schubert could all compete together on that finals stage.
@@CtrlSaltDelete Megos had abysmal performance in boulder semis. No tops and only one 10-point zone.
@@CtrlSaltDelete ... yannik flohe, his german teammate is stronger and probably the strongest athlete in climbing in olympic besides maybe jakob.
Jan Hojer almost always won against Megos a few years ago and he wouldn't have been a competitor for the podium.
Megos is a strong rock climber
There were two Olympic Qualifying events. The sum of points from both determined who gets the tickets
This video was hard to watch.
It is clear he doesn't keep up with pro climbing. Luckily for him all you need is a camera and internet connection to post on youtube.
well his top 8 was pretty decent guesses if look just at boulder semis. It doesn't have van Duysen or Hamish but they didn't top anything and are in top 8 only because of attempts.
@@user-xo3qx4cw6g Im just talking about how he didn't know how to say some of the most famous peoples name, he clearly didnt watch the qualifiers and brushed sorato and ai more off like they are just randoms.
You pronounced Hannes Van Duysen‘s name really well! The others… were fun 😂
The 2 per country rule prevented Futabo Ito from participation - she finished ahead of 5 or 6 women who are climbing.
Oh well ... rules is rules but we still love you 'Tabo.
Yeah it’s something they need to evaluate. There’s comes a balance between having diversity - including the different nations in the Olympics - and ensuring that the best athletes are actually competing.
Some sports in the games depend on the national teams and winning is more team based but in climbing it’s more like every person is competing for themselves so it feels strange.
Sorato not on podium?????? Does bro even watch comp climbing?
I think Sorato is gonna get gold lol
Ai Mori will make it to top 8 just from lead wall. Just a guess.
Haha this is a good one, true :-)
Leaving Megos and Ai Mori out of the final is wild!
fr, he's definitely good enough to make it to finals
Megos is a great climber, but i don't really thing comp climbing, especially bouldering is really his style. I get why he is not in the top 8, really hope he does well tho! And leavind Ai mori but also Seo out of the top 8 is indeed crazy
my opinion for mens podium: 3rd toby roberts 2nd Sorato Anraku 1st Jakob womens: 3rd Natalia grossman 2nd ai mori 1st janja
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that quality commentary that we love at 2:34: "he was reaching up, and now he's going down!" 😂
I hope Alexander Megos does well.
It looks like he will not qualify for the finals.
@@user-xo3qx4cw6g Yea he didn't do too hot =\
@@user-xo3qx4cw6gand he didn't
Cap. Anraku will most likely podium. He is the top boulderer and top lead climber of 2023/2024. If anyone is a dark horse it’s gines lopez based on his performance in training with other competitors like Toby Roberts and Avezou. I can agree with Jakob Schubert and tomoa narasaki possibly placing podium but you’re crazy if you think Adam Ondra is gonna podium. Also dohyun Lee is way too low on ranking. He’s one of the strongest boulderer alongside Anraku. Lead questionable but bouldering definitely has one up on most of the other climbers. I say all this based on having watched all of men’s ifsc comps
Dohyun Lee didn't top shit in the boulder semis.
@@user-xo3qx4cw6g anyone who watches ifsc would agree that dohyun is one of the top comp climbers. Comp bouldering always has been a tossup regardless but if you’re implying that a poor performance in Paris equates to being a weak comp climber, that gotta be the most shortsighted thing ever.
Well well well how the turntables.
RIP Tomoa😢
You clearly understimate team japan! You even forgot Ai Mori 😅
Toby on 7th being first
Ai More has beaten Garnbret on more than occasion in lead and whether she stands on the podium may be determined by the setting of the boulder problems, as being the shortest competitor, she has struggled on height dependant problems in world cups but definitely has the gas tank to win Lead.
Who knows anything can happen, Also Raboutou was very close to getting a medal in the previous olympics so am interested to see how things play out...
Nobody touches Garnbret in form.
@@proceratorhe's talking about lead, and in lead ai mori has beaten Janja more than once during a season where Janja purposely did not do boulders to focus on lead so she was definitely in form.
Well, do you really think Air Mori can lead climb 50 points more then Janja?
hey, bro got his American homie right. Colin is #4.
Sorato winning boulder and him lowkey glazing tomoa is so funny
Was waiting for this 😎
Here after sorato absolutely owned bouldering in the semis.
Sameeee, and Duffy needs to up his game on the lead though too!!
This combined format is extremely hard to predict. Depending on how "hard" or "easy" the boulders and routes will be.
If bouders are hard "meaning few tops" and the routes with a very obvious crux that sees most of the climbers falling on the same spot, boulder specialists like Tomoa are in a good place. On the other hand if lead route is super hard it is possible for lead specialist to catch up a lot of points.
The only things I feel confident about are Janja gold and Jackob on the podium.
My hopes for podiums (not totaly impossible I think) :
Sorato, Jackob, Toby or Tomoa
Janja, Nathalia, Ai
Very excited to watch all of this.
Climbing competitions always always been as a combined boulder+lead comps.
Nice job with your prediction… definitely forgot about Alberto on the rankin. Underestimating him as you did on your previous video explaining the last Olympics 👌🏼