QNAP TBS-h574TX NAS - Should You Buy? (Short Review)
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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Video Chapters
00:00 - The Start
00:57 - E1.S Support is GREAT!
03:14 - Thunderbolt 4 and 10GbE
04:59 - Compact and Portable
06:50 - 1TB Free Cloud Space Included
07:58 - QuTS / QTS Features and Services
10:35 - Gen 3 x2 M.2 NVMe SSD Slots
13:47 - Fixed 12GB and 16GB Memory
16:11 - The Price Tag
18:23 - NOT a Silent NAS
19:44 - sigh... Deadbolt
22:08 - Conclusion
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Now that the OWC Mercury Pro Dual U.2 exists, I've shifted my focus away from NVME NAS, toward NVME DAS. For $500, the Mercury gives me 8 NVME's. For not much more money than the QNAP unloaded, I got the Mercury plus 8 x 4tb NVME's. Much faster than the QNAP. Then I have my trusty HDD_based TruNas system for backups and fun.
Talk about consistency. Every single video on this channel (and I watch all of them without exception) reliably has the following:
- Robbie being excellent in his delivery, detail and articulation of obvious pros and cons of a system in question
- Seagulls
- Complaints about "slow" NVMe drives, completely ignoring the fact that any NVMe drive on a single lane will saturate all network bandwidth
- A clown complaining in the comments about lack of ECC memory support
- People finding things that are missing from a device in question: Robbie reviews a 4-bay device, they want an 8-bay. Robbie talks about an 8-bay, a clown turns up saying he needs a minimum of 20 bays, all full of 22TB drives storing his mission critical bird videos
- People saying anything less than an EPYC with an RTX4090 is not sufficient for Plex
- A long comment thread where two 'professionals' almost resort to insults on the basis of disagreement on ECC memory
- A person knowing nothing about NAS, but certain he needs a pro-grade solution for his photography side hustle
- A person running a decommissioned 2011 enterprise server idling at 900W, who thinks it's a better option than modern solutions
Always a sight to behold. 🙂
You forgot:
"Robbie exclaims at seagulls"
But apart from that, you sir are bang bloody on!
thx, greate review. Exactly what I needed! Already subed, thx again
Love your content but the brutal jump transition with the repeatative over the top audio at next list item (aladin) is ear crushing.
Yeah, realised that after the edit and tried to repair in YT (hence the noisy audio repair). If I cannot resolve by tomorrow, gonna just mute those sections to dust. Sorry man (and everyone else who is getting ear F'd by it)
@@nascompares no worry here, Love the content as always. Try to offer up constuctive critique where avail. Thanks again for the continued efforts bud
@@nascompares Mate, I am attempting to purchase SSDs for the h574TX and confused as hell. Assuming a RAID 10 (4 disk), individual drives will be capped at 1000Mbs? Is this correct? So, any money I spend on drives with r/w speeds > 1000Mbs is a waste of money? Thanks so much for your channel.
I love this guy!
It is so great that people are out there that are so passionate about storage and NAS!!
I hate seagulls, lol!!
That shirt is perfect!
I’m jumping in 👍
For NAS PCI 4 is not necessary ( The 10G ethernet or TB4 will be your bottleneck ) unless you want to use your nvme ssd internally for VM ( and deal with more heat and power consumption )
Keep in mind that this NAS has 2 x TB4 and 1 x 10G - so it could utilise PCI4 bandwidth no?
Finally... faster storage that doesn't take up a lot of space with TB.. So tired of these vendors releasing old underpowered cpu, 1x nvme connections, or slow ethernet boxes. Price in US seems cheaper.
I wish Synology would put out something comparable to this unit. As a new entrant to the NAS world, I'm just a bit hesitant to spend so much on a QNAP.
grow up - qnap is better than synology - just buy it
yes!!
This unit is so close to being perfect.
If it had the ability to have up to 64GB of memory, 2 x 10gbe, support faster NVMe Gen4 and had an option for say 10 drive slots, then it would be close to as good as technology could offer today.
The Flashstor 12 Pro is also worth looking at. It has support for 12 drives.
The big thing for me is the price on the QNAP. If it was similar to the Flashstor 12 it would be a no brainer, even with less drive bays.
As for Synology, I really don't think they will release a high performance 10gbe Flash only NAS. And if they did, expect to pay a lot for it!!! I really hope they prove me wrong as I would love to stick with Synology, but this QNAP is very tempting.
I love the jacket 😂
Cheers man
just ordered one
Great review. Seems like the asustor flashstor is a more practical option.
Comparison coming soon
Looks like a movie projector without lens :) But yea, nice specs!
I understand e1.s is hot swappable, but I was a little confused. Are m.2's hot swappable if the m.2 in in the e1.s adapter?
Great video mate 👍
My question is what system would you recommend of you wanting to build a system that's upgradable .
For building, you'd struggle to do better than that Erying i9 board and the fractal node 804 (If you can get over the horrible trays) or maybe the Audheid 8 bay (keep an eye on the PSU choice. Both are super roomy and allow for tonnes of lifespan upgrades in H/W + that mobo+CPU combo is incredible
I would.. but 2k euro here in Denmark.. totally insane. Also Gen3 wth ? Glad I got my F4-424 Pro yesterday
Tbh the pricing is kinda bonkers at the moment and so close to launch. Found it as low as $1300 in some places...so it might well be lower soon when it stabilizes
Ha ha. I hate seagulls 😂. Legend!
Finally a consumerish NAS that supports something aside of M.2. For the price I'd have liked gen 4 but I'm guessing there aren't enough PCIE lanes for that. The real disappointment is the memory. I'd rather a slightly more expensive unit that could be upgraded to 64gb and supported ECC even if that made it a little larger. I can still see use cases for this but it really wouldn't have been hard to make this a real banger of a unit.
I am attempting to purchase SSDs for the h574TX and confused as hell. Assuming a RAID 10 (4 disk), individual drives will be capped at 1000Mbs? Is this correct? So, any money I spend on drives with r/w speeds > 1000Mbs is a waste of money? Thanks in advance.
Is there a USB drive on the mobo for the OS like on other systems? Can I add my own and run say proxmox instead of QuTS/QTS?
No, but you can definitely connect an external USB, then boot with K/V/M attached, and F2/F12/Del into Bios, boot from the USB and boom...proxmox. don't overwrite the internal eMMc drive though, as that makes recovery impossible (warranty etc)
Wish there would be e1.s above 8TB drives
Hi, and Iam pretty new to modern NAS so polities if the answer is obvious. Could a ‘normal’ 3.5inch SATA DAS be attached to store ‘legacy’ data such as media files 😊 on HDD as well?
Yes, you can connect most domestic Direct Attacking Storage devices to a NAS as ext.storage. as long as it's not a tricksy file system, it should appear on the NAS GUI and file manager immediately
Possible the limited memory is part of price/market separation
There is plenty of space to put sodimm slot or solder down a package of memory have higher capacity
If you want highspeed pcie with switch / more memory you need to pay more for a pro / hero edition
Thanks QNAP , you won't get my money 😂
No. The Thunderbolt 4 interface should allow 3000MB/s but this NAS only works at 10G speed of 1500MB/s.
I really find your videos very informative. Have a QNAP TVS-H1688X and a TVS 1282 i3 fully populated with more than enogh disks. However, as time goes by, new Technolgy comes up. My point is that this perticular TBS-h574TX is just looking ugly Chinese. Cant they make it look squared or 19"?!? And this holds not only for QNAP, but many others that you even tested! Ugly boxes, and NOT SUFFICIENT. It would be cool to have a NAS with 8 PCIe 4 or 5 Bays but I guess, that is to come yet. Thanks for all those Videos that you made, I saw 99% I would guess
Lovely, but the fixed ram and PCIe3x2 is so... underwhelming.
If I'm going to dish out 1500+ quid for a super NAS then there is no way that I will accept a max of 16gb of ram. I'll just build my own box with 64gb for less than a grand thank you.
Why does it look like a space heater designed in the 50s?
Because...well.. because it does..
I could live with the reduced data rates of the NVMe's but the memory being limited to 16 GB is a deal breaker for me.
I would want to use it as a VM platform and that would require more RAM.
Also it would be nice to have a 6 or 8 bay version as I would want to run RAID 6 and with current NVMe capacities RAID 6 would really cut into the total storage available.
Perhaps the next generation of this device will be a viable option for my business needs!
I'm still really puzzled by the memory configs!!
I was thinking of getting one, but with only 16GB of RAM, just not interested; that's just crippling.
It does hurt a bit
I also exist....
This NAS makes no sense to me: as a business user if I wanted a high speed portable NAS for production work I would list Registered ECC as a minimal requirement. This has the trappings of a business or pro series unit, but is instead a consumer grade platform with the artifice of enterprise trappings glued onto it. Factor in their asking price and it's a solid "not on your life" scenario. There are ways of getting these requirements into a smaller form factor chassis and keeping the weight down.
Tbh I did think about highlighting the lack of ECC, but Intel Core processors and ECC support is...well...spotty at best. And given the thunderbolt connection (which tends to be on Int.Gfx systems, short of slamming a mad Xeon W processor in, I think ECC in this config was never gonna happen. Still, 16/12GB.....EH?
Tell me about it - I just abandoned my current NAS which was a Z690 + 12500T because the cost of W680 + UDIMM ECC was laughably expensive. I just rebuilt with Epyc Milan on a proper server board because it was "economical" compared to chasing down DDR5 UDIMM ECC + suffering through getting it all setup.
Used non ecc for production work for 10years with no issue. If you purchase a poor mb or memory, then that will be a problem. Can't find a portable, low noise, low power, good performance nas anywhere else.
@@fwiler Memory quality is irrelevant when it comes to silent corruption and bit-flips. There are things that happen outside of the RAM to the RAM, and only ECC can correct for that. For when data integrity matters, ECC is not an option. YMMV of course. You can also build ITX form factor NAS with enough PCIe lanes to blow this thing out of the water in terms of performance and capacity also, and with more than puny 10Gbe lol!
@@FrenziedManbeast I've heard it all before bud. The sky is always falling unless you buy ecc. Same for bitrot. It's hysterical to watch someone try to prove the percentage of times it could happen. And you talk about diy for production? Ok.
Appreciate your opinions and reviews but this content could be condensed further especially without repeating use of clips. I skipped a head 3 - time and landed on the same Simpsons clip. Please be more concise. longer videos are welcome if you are showing / discussing more about the products performance and use case otherwise. spec sheet is quicker to read.
Full review coming in about 5 days or so. Thanks for the feedback (genuinely! I'm British... EVERYTHING sounds sarcastic inu voice).
all good pal, like your enthusiasm. Looking forward to some more unique content 🤟🏻
Not worth it, better to build same thing yourself with mini itx board or minisforum board if they will support bifurcation , you can do 8 nvme drives
First!