Virginia shouldn't have been cuffed, dammit! She did what ANYONE would have done to protect their kid, gotta love there's no black and white in Cold Case, but still.
@@LadyTeePrinceLover If she got a good lawyer (dad's rich, he can afford it) then they could argue that while the law demands that Virginia be sentenced, that she serve her sentence on house arrest or something similar. They may even be able to argue self defense (it can sometimes be applied to defense of another person) given the victim was a pedo, and nothing in Ginny's life prior to or after the murder shows her to be a killer or a criminal.
With all the evidence I’ve think all that might be putting to consideration plus the DA and the courts will probably be reasonable with this kind of evidence
Actually there were several episodes where the victim was the villain. It's one reason I liked the show so much. I love how its main theme was that everyone deserves justice, even if they are scumbags.
@@TheStapleGunKid honestly, in the episodes in which the victim is the antagonist their ghosts always seem sad or repentant [(a little late for that, I would have had to understand it earlier but at least they noticed it) the episodes do not count in here the victim did things antagonic and then regret it, since they showed a redemption].
@@latios2588 I'd say they still count. I remember there was one episode where the victim turned out to be a child molester who was killed by one of the boys he was abusing.
The only great show of the 21st century. That says a lot! With the Great Moral lessons of the original Fugitive, Hawaii-5/0 and Mod Squad. How did the Stupid networks cancel such a Jewel!
So many comments here are about how the victim was evil and deserves no sympathy, but that's far from uncommon in Cold Case. Many episodes had victims who were horrible people. That's the main reason I liked the show so much. I loved how it promoted the theme that everyone deserves justice, even if they are scumbags.
Actually there's not that many! I saw something on the wiki about there only being maybe 6 or something episodes with "evil victims". Even though it's only a few, they are some of the most memorable episodes.
I actually like it like this, though.. It felt like there was deeper symbolism/meaning, like her reflection couldn't wash away even when her ghost did.. Even if it was a gaffe, it's one of those cool ones that deserves to be left in :)
It appears as though finally in the afterlife the Mother felt remorse and shame for what she had done...a little late though. Lilly's reaction upon seeing the victim was powerful. She snubbed the "ghost" because Lilly knew she was no good.
God, I loved this show!!! I’ve been trying to find a place to watch full episodes but haven’t seen any on Netflix, Amazon, etc This helps in the meantime
It's a long shot, probably didn't happen but I just can't help but think the producers and the camera people didn't mean to have the reflection still there when the ghosts disappears. Everyone: ohmygod that is like so meaningful. Her ghost disappeared but he refection still stays because can't escape that house and is trapped there forever. The camera guy,producers and editors:......... Uh..... Yeah. Totally, yep! That's what we were going for. Lolol Im pretty sure they actually did leave it in there for that reason. But it's just funny to think that they might have not meant to do that.
And for a good reason; if I remember well, the season this episode was in, season 4, it was revealed his older brother had been molested by his coach of... I don't remember which sport, so he has no compassion for pedophiles, no matter the gender.
This song's...well the instrument has been in my head for years and I couldn't remember where I heard it from. I said there might be a possibility that it was from Cold Case but I haven't watch this show in years. I knew the guy sounded like Goo Goo Dolls but I couldn't piece together the lyrics or even just the chorus. Told myself I prolly listening to Iris and alternated it. I'm glad I wasn't tripping I can find this song now
IMO, Stan (for all of his jerkish behavior) didn't know how awful his ex-wife Lauren truly was (in regards to her molesting her son and trying to do the same to her grandson)...
I would have really hated the woman too, but why didn’t they just get a restraining order and put her in jail or something? Killing her is melodramatic
They would have to report her for her crimes, which makes the families secrets public. On top of that, either Tad and/or Matt would have to provide proof and testimony of sexual abuse by Lauren. Doubt they'd want to do that. Ginny didn't plan to kill her mother, she only became murderous when Lauren stated she would prey on Matt, Ginny's son.
Don't be too sure. Some things get overlooked. For example, watch how Lena and Stillman suddenly switch places at the end of the montage in "Cargo". I also just noticed the magically disappearing, reappearing shawl on Elizabeth Stone in the final confrontation in "Torn".
What confused me about this episode was since it is one of the most recent cases, the characters' appearances don't change that much except the son Matt. Why would Matt's appearance change so much? It shouldn't have changed that much.
Everybody should tell the story when it happens between a father and mother son and daughter family members murderer killer she has to spend time in education
This should’ve been a really easy solve given that the daughter was the only one who knew her mother’s secret all they had to do was ask what time the lights came back on and they would’ve had the daughter dead to rights
@vxy357 yeah true, but it still murder she could of just leave her, abandon her. Accorting to her actions through that episode doesn't mean she deserve to die, its still murder. matter infact no one deserve to die not even bad or grose people. Just letting you know :)
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I like the final touch with Lilly turning out the lights on that ghost as she was afraid of the dark.
It's too bad that they didn't make the actress' reflection disappear after Lilly turns off the lights.
That might’ve been a stylistic choice
I always took it as “she didn’t deserve peace”
@Neku628 I took it as that's where she stays. In the water where she died, in the dark, where she hates.
@@kuuipo823 Yep, that's real clever symbolism.
I don't condone murder but i understand what the daughter thought, she wanted to protect her son, i understand that.
.... that's why I'd always hoped that she didn't have do a lot of jail time.💔
She won’t especially after we got full story the court and the DA will put that in consideration.
I agree! I don't think she should be in jail.
One of those cases where the victim was not an innocent one. Her actions brought on her own murder.
One of the few episodes where the killer bravely slew a devil to protect other people.
I like seeing Vera playing basketball with his girlfriend's son and his girlfriend sure is a great shot. His smile is priceless.
That look as she stares into the water... its like she's disgusted at what she was.
and she should be
@509 Panzer Abt. what’s her name
@@winehouselover Morgan Fairchild.
@@jonathanmorrisey5771no..its donna mills....
She was disgusted for being a pedophile who raped her son and trying to do the same with her grandson
Narcissus gets her just desserts. Love Donna Mills - perfect choice for this character!
+Jenny C. She really has bad luck with her kids doesn't she. Between this episode and as Madeline in General Hospital.
Donna has always done a great job playing a bitch, I.e. Abby Ewing. But Donna Mills, the person, seems like a sweetheart! 😘
The music was great in this show.
Virginia shouldn't have been cuffed, dammit! She did what ANYONE would have done to protect their kid, gotta love there's no black and white in Cold Case, but still.
..... that's why I'd always hoped that she didn't have 2 serve a lot of jail time.💔
@@LadyTeePrinceLover If she got a good lawyer (dad's rich, he can afford it) then they could argue that while the law demands that Virginia be sentenced, that she serve her sentence on house arrest or something similar. They may even be able to argue self defense (it can sometimes be applied to defense of another person) given the victim was a pedo, and nothing in Ginny's life prior to or after the murder shows her to be a killer or a criminal.
With all the evidence I’ve think all that might be putting to consideration plus the DA and the courts will probably be reasonable with this kind of evidence
Rare episode where the victim was the true bad guy and not the killer.
Yeah... sad!
Mike cushinberry was originaly, i loved it
Actually there were several episodes where the victim was the villain. It's one reason I liked the show so much. I love how its main theme was that everyone deserves justice, even if they are scumbags.
@@TheStapleGunKid honestly, in the episodes in which the victim is the antagonist their ghosts always seem sad or repentant [(a little late for that, I would have had to understand it earlier but at least they noticed it) the episodes do not count in here the victim did things antagonic and then regret it, since they showed a redemption].
@@latios2588 I'd say they still count. I remember there was one episode where the victim turned out to be a child molester who was killed by one of the boys he was abusing.
This was one of the most satisfying deaths I've ever seen in Cold Case. Don't know if that makes me weird or anything...
That does not. She had it coming. And truly, every single one of the persons staying at home had a motive to kill her.
The most satisfying death for me was the one of the serial rapist who didn't understand that NO means No. He had it coming to him
Human 😉
Her and the guy who raped all those college girls in the episode Justice both deserved their fate.
@katlynsparks477 That's why they let him go. What he did took courage and saved so many future lives
The only great show of the 21st century. That says a lot! With the Great Moral lessons of the original Fugitive, Hawaii-5/0 and Mod Squad. How did the Stupid networks cancel such a Jewel!
thats one way to break the cycle
So many comments here are about how the victim was evil and deserves no sympathy, but that's far from uncommon in Cold Case. Many episodes had victims who were horrible people. That's the main reason I liked the show so much. I loved how it promoted the theme that everyone deserves justice, even if they are scumbags.
TheStapleGunKid but murder shouldn’t be an option.
Yeah that's the point.
On that we all agree
Blue Skeptic Justice? The doer was a kid lol
Actually there's not that many! I saw something on the wiki about there only being maybe 6 or something episodes with "evil victims". Even though it's only a few, they are some of the most memorable episodes.
Bit of a goof at 2:50
Lauren's "ghost" fades away, but her reflection in the pool does not.
@SCORPION FLAMEZ holy shit that is deep
The real reason behind it is because the production team forgot to include her reflection in the pool too meaning GRAPHICAL ERROR
I actually like it like this, though.. It felt like there was deeper symbolism/meaning, like her reflection couldn't wash away even when her ghost did..
Even if it was a gaffe, it's one of those cool ones that deserves to be left in :)
Yep because some victim are not innocent and are more considered as the antagonist
Lonely hearts episode for example.
I understand the actress who played the part of the perpetrator was in one of these long running soap operas.
It appears as though finally in the afterlife the Mother felt remorse and shame for what she had done...a little late though.
Lilly's reaction upon seeing the victim was powerful. She snubbed the "ghost" because Lilly knew she was no good.
After the experiences I went through as a kid I know exactly what you mean!
I know it has been 12 years since you commented, but I'm so sorry for whatever happened to you, dude...!
Beautiful song
my fav song in the entire universe! goo goo dolls
God, I loved this show!!! I’ve been trying to find a place to watch full episodes but haven’t seen any on Netflix, Amazon, etc
This helps in the meantime
You can watch every episode on Roku tv
Hbo max now
StartTV on UA-cam
Amazon Prime now, at least here in Brazil
@@rodolfobrenner5404 And UK
i like this song
i really do
Hopefully the juries understand why she did it and find her not guilty.
I've always hoped that the daughter didn't have 2 do a lot of jail time.💔
I’m sure she didn’t
I liked how Lilly turned off the light and that sick "b*tch" disappeared
All because she r**e her son when he was 13, and nearly did the same with her 13 year old grandson
I Love This Song!!!!
That's intentional; it means the case may be solved, but for someone (the killer's brother) it won't be over for a long while, and meybe ever.
It's a long shot, probably didn't happen but I just can't help but think the producers and the camera people didn't mean to have the reflection still there when the ghosts disappears.
Everyone: ohmygod that is like so meaningful. Her ghost disappeared but he refection still stays because can't escape that house and is trapped there forever.
The camera guy,producers and editors:......... Uh..... Yeah. Totally, yep! That's what we were going for.
Lolol Im pretty sure they actually did leave it in there for that reason. But it's just funny to think that they might have not meant to do that.
No, I read somewhere that it was a blooper. Still a cool effect, though.
Lily didn't even look at the killer at the end have to say great song to the ending.
And for a good reason; if I remember well, the season this episode was in, season 4, it was revealed his older brother had been molested by his coach of... I don't remember which sport, so he has no compassion for pedophiles, no matter the gender.
Gregory House swimming?
It was boxing
This song's...well the instrument has been in my head for years and I couldn't remember where I heard it from. I said there might be a possibility that it was from Cold Case but I haven't watch this show in years. I knew the guy sounded like Goo Goo Dolls but I couldn't piece together the lyrics or even just the chorus. Told myself I prolly listening to Iris and alternated it. I'm glad I wasn't tripping I can find this song now
Good episode
I'm watching this episode right now, and they have two Collective Soul songs. Maybe they should have done an all-Collective Soul episode.
IMO, Stan (for all of his jerkish behavior) didn't know how awful his ex-wife Lauren truly was (in regards to her molesting her son and trying to do the same to her grandson)...
And you know what her "excuse" was. Because her husband was cheating on her. I was like "burn in hell bitch."
@MetalPharoah Well, you know what they say, " A mother will do ANYTHING to protect her young".
2:32 probably just me, but I think she regretted what she did.
@ǞЯƮΦЯiǞ РęПDЯǞgΦП the child abducter in season 1 too
Well, of course he was, you know how he feels about child rapists.
the way I see it, this woman killed a monster, not a person. I hope she isn't imprisoned long :(
I would have really hated the woman too, but why didn’t they just get a restraining order and put her in jail or something? Killing her is melodramatic
They would have to report her for her crimes, which makes the families secrets public. On top of that, either Tad and/or Matt would have to provide proof and testimony of sexual abuse by Lauren. Doubt they'd want to do that. Ginny didn't plan to kill her mother, she only became murderous when Lauren stated she would prey on Matt, Ginny's son.
And with that, I don’t think anyone would like that, even the courts.
Side comment: The brother looks like Chandler Bing. (F*R*I*E*N*D*S)
cool
0:46 Hey, isn't that blonde boy the same one from the episode, The Key?
No. They look the same
Don't be too sure. Some things get overlooked. For example, watch how Lena and Stillman suddenly switch places at the end of the montage in "Cargo". I also just noticed the magically disappearing, reappearing shawl on Elizabeth Stone in the final confrontation in "Torn".
I was looking for the song of Slipping when Nancy died but then I realized it was just a background song
@ninalapinta Maybe it's a reference to Narcissus.
What confused me about this episode was since it is one of the most recent cases, the characters' appearances don't change that much except the son Matt. Why would Matt's appearance change so much? It shouldn't have changed that much.
He was 13. Still going through puberty
Is it murder when someone deserves to die?
Yes if it's not self defense. But the victim had it coming
Donna Mills is a beautiful woman.
She played the victim? Yeah
I thought that too.
0:47 He looks like Nathan Fillion. I'm off to check if it was him!
Por favor pasen este episodio pero en español gracias
Don't be iconoclastic, the editors would have definitely caught that if they had not intended to leave it in.
It reminds me of Tennessee people.
How do you know it was intentional?
Didn't this episode feature the Rwandan Genocide ?
Yea the brother was a photographer that was sent there to take photos and he showed everyone at the birthday party
Everybody should tell the story when it happens between a father and mother son and daughter family members murderer killer she has to spend time in education
The victim had it coming. She terrorized the whole family. Molesting her own son and almost the grandson
Oh Abby...(Apologies to Knots Landing) :0
This should’ve been a really easy solve given that the daughter was the only one who knew her mother’s secret all they had to do was ask what time the lights came back on and they would’ve had the daughter dead to rights
Nobody bats a thousand. Continuity and editing mistakes creep up from time to time.
She's killed her owned mother's overall this house black out gone jailed forever & ever see brother son father's he sitting down his chair
@vxy357 yeah true, but it still murder she could of just leave her, abandon her.
Accorting to her actions through that episode doesn't mean she deserve to die,
its still murder.
matter infact no one deserve to die not even bad or grose people.
Just letting you know :)
@vxy357 Except, unfortunately, for the narcisstic Lauren.
GIIIILF
It's not a real song... It's just for the episode...
I know because that's way too much of a blunder to be a blooper.
The most disgusting episode.
Actually I can’t believe his own mother raped him
no but there could have been a better way