Thank you. Question.. if conditioner levels are too high, how would a person know? The cyonic acid ppm? Does adding shock and the breakpoint mean we could accidentally increase conditioner levels? And is this true everytime your water hardness is too high also? And partial drain and refill the fix? What if pH of tap water is already 8.2pH and hard? Haha.. ok thanks. You were very informative.
Hey man I have a 600 gall vinyl above ground pool that was setup under a garage. I use the 3inch tablets in it every week. Is that an ok dose for that amount of water?
@@SwimmingPoolAZ-SPS under a car port so it barely gets sunlight.. Only late in the day as the sun moves west to set.. It's only 600 gallons (8ft x5.5 ft x 2.5ft) and 1 3inch tablet per week...
Make sure to test weekly, with it shaded that much, I’d bet you could use less and still get a good 3 ppm reading. Keep in mind too that it’s not a specific number of tabs per week we’re worried about, it’s more are we adding enough to maintain 2-4 ppm of chlorine. Focus on the parts per million test reading instead of a given number of tabs.
the ph in my swimming pool is maintained at 7.5 but the swimmers are complaining of redness in their sensitive areas like nips and cheeks.what could be the issue
Can you answer why putting the tri chlorine puck in the skimmer basket is a poor idea. I was told to do this by the guys that opened my pool years ago and I wonder what trouble I caused doing that. I have had nothing but trouble with this pool. Expensive learning project to say the least!
TriChlor 3” chlorine tablets have a very low pH that over time can damage your skimmer, plumbing & equipment. It basically turns the water in your skimmer into mild hydrochloric acid when the system is shut off. Over time it will do damage.
High Josh can you answer this for me please I balance my pool as best I can especially PH , so when I shock my pool with CLOROX BLEACH how long will this affect my PH ???
For most pools, the pH rise from liquid chlorine is negligible. For what it’s worth, you should not be using Clorox in the pool. Their bleach contains polymer additives that are meant to protect fabrics, but it adds a bunch of junk to your water. Liquid chlorine is great and what I use exclusively, but make sure you’re buying pure stuff. HD, Lowes, Walmart, etc all sell 10% liquid chlorine in the pool section, but it’s a bit hard to find right now.
You guys use Seaklear products out there I'm a huge fan of their phosphate remover little sad that they got bought by natural chemistry. I used orenda phosphate remover for a bit but had some issues with foaming since that time they've changed their formula and I understand that it doesn't do that anymore.
I haven't used much SeeKleer stuff mainly because what we use now gets the job done. My cousin who's been in the industry a long time and REALLY know's his stuff says it's a really good product so It's gotta be good.
You mentioned that chlorine becomes non effective with old water comparing it to oil. How often should the pool be drained and replaced with new water?
What we look for in deciding if it’s time for fresh water in the pool is the Cyunaric acid (aka stabilizer or conditioner) level, and also calcium and/or total dissolved solids. Cyunaric acid, while important, especially in outdoor pools, slows chlorine’s killing speed down. As CYA rises, you have to also raise chlorine levels to compensate but that can make it uncomfortable to swim (think itchy, dry skin, bleached bathing suits, etc...) as total dissolved solids (TDS) increase, minerals will begin to come out of solution, create scale lines, inhibit water movement through filter, and cloud the water. It’s not so much that you should drain your pool at a specific interval but that you should drain your pool when these measurements reach certain levels. We’ll cover more of that in a future water chemistry video on water balance. I do have another video where I touch on it here: ua-cam.com/video/5mmvKpEupbM/v-deo.html
Josh help me buddy I'm more confused than ever so me just shocking my pool to say 15ppm a 21k gallon salt pool if I over did it I created a bigger prob ??? 🤣
Great video. Every time I was thinking "what about ?" you addressed it. Very concise and accurate presentation. Thanks!
Wow, thanks! We’re going to do a short “part 2” to address a few things that I feel like we missed.
Excellent content! Thanks so much - I need to go through this again a few times. You clearly know your stuff.
I know this is old, but I would’ve liked it if there were illustrations of the chemical processes. Thanks for the info though!
Younare great at removing algae could you imagine if you grew algae? For Bio Fuels?
Good video, everything was right on point
Thank you. Question.. if conditioner levels are too high, how would a person know? The cyonic acid ppm? Does adding shock and the breakpoint mean we could accidentally increase conditioner levels? And is this true everytime your water hardness is too high also? And partial drain and refill the fix? What if pH of tap water is already 8.2pH and hard? Haha.. ok thanks. You were very informative.
Hey man I have a 600 gall vinyl above ground pool that was setup under a garage. I use the 3inch tablets in it every week. Is that an ok dose for that amount of water?
600 or 6,000 gallons? Under a carport or INSIDE of a garage? How many 3” tablets are you putting in a week?
@@SwimmingPoolAZ-SPS under a car port so it barely gets sunlight.. Only late in the day as the sun moves west to set.. It's only 600 gallons (8ft x5.5 ft x 2.5ft) and 1 3inch tablet per week...
Make sure to test weekly, with it shaded that much, I’d bet you could use less and still get a good 3 ppm reading. Keep in mind too that it’s not a specific number of tabs per week we’re worried about, it’s more are we adding enough to maintain 2-4 ppm of chlorine. Focus on the parts per million test reading instead of a given number of tabs.
the ph in my swimming pool is maintained at 7.5 but the swimmers are complaining of redness in their sensitive areas like nips and cheeks.what could be the issue
What else are you putting in there? What’s your free chlorine level and your CYA?
Can you answer why putting the tri chlorine puck in the skimmer basket is a poor idea. I was told to do this by the guys that opened my pool years ago and I wonder what trouble I caused doing that. I have had nothing but trouble with this pool. Expensive learning project to say the least!
TriChlor 3” chlorine tablets have a very low pH that over time can damage your skimmer, plumbing & equipment. It basically turns the water in your skimmer into mild hydrochloric acid when the system is shut off. Over time it will do damage.
If you must use pucks, use a floating dispenser for this reason. The acid concentrates in the skimmer and it’s no bueno.
High Josh can you answer this for me please I balance my pool as best I can especially PH , so when I shock my pool with CLOROX BLEACH how long will this affect my PH ???
For most pools, the pH rise from liquid chlorine is negligible. For what it’s worth, you should not be using Clorox in the pool. Their bleach contains polymer additives that are meant to protect fabrics, but it adds a bunch of junk to your water. Liquid chlorine is great and what I use exclusively, but make sure you’re buying pure stuff. HD, Lowes, Walmart, etc all sell 10% liquid chlorine in the pool section, but it’s a bit hard to find right now.
Very nice, thank-you!
You guys use Seaklear products out there I'm a huge fan of their phosphate remover little sad that they got bought by natural chemistry. I used orenda phosphate remover for a bit but had some issues with foaming since that time they've changed their formula and I understand that it doesn't do that anymore.
I haven't used much SeeKleer stuff mainly because what we use now gets the job done. My cousin who's been in the industry a long time and REALLY know's his stuff says it's a really good product so It's gotta be good.
6:25 “that’s how you know it’s working son”😂
To funny
Good video though, interesting to learn the history. Thanks!
You mentioned that chlorine becomes non effective with old water comparing it to oil. How often should the pool be drained and replaced with new water?
What we look for in deciding if it’s time for fresh water in the pool is the Cyunaric acid (aka stabilizer or conditioner) level, and also calcium and/or total dissolved solids. Cyunaric acid, while important, especially in outdoor pools, slows chlorine’s killing speed down. As CYA rises, you have to also raise chlorine levels to compensate but that can make it uncomfortable to swim (think itchy, dry skin, bleached bathing suits, etc...) as total dissolved solids (TDS) increase, minerals will begin to come out of solution, create scale lines, inhibit water movement through filter, and cloud the water. It’s not so much that you should drain your pool at a specific interval but that you should drain your pool when these measurements reach certain levels. We’ll cover more of that in a future water chemistry video on water balance. I do have another video where I touch on it here: ua-cam.com/video/5mmvKpEupbM/v-deo.html
Josh help me buddy I'm more confused than ever so me just shocking my pool to say 15ppm a 21k gallon salt pool if I over did it I created a bigger prob ??? 🤣
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