Cut-Rate Commander | Creative Energy Precon Upgrade Guide

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  • @GrazzetMTG
    @GrazzetMTG  8 місяців тому +27

    Hey folks! Included in the post below is the complete list of upgrades made to the deck, as well as my additional upgrade suggestions for your convenience. Also, be sure to let me know in the comments in you agree / disagree with my upgrade suggestions, if there are any inclusions you thing I missed, and what commanders from Modern Horizons 3 you' like to see me build in the future!
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    Energy
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    Coveted Jewel >>> Dr. Madison Li
    Angel of Invention >>> Brotherhood Scribe
    Myr Battlesphere >>> Liberty Prime, Recharged
    Filigree Racer >>> Assaultron Dominator
    Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer >>>Sentry Bot
    Combustible Gearhulk >>> Behemoth of Vault 0
    Silverquill Lecturer >>> The Motherlode, Excavator
    Overclocked Electromancer >>> Synth Eradicator
    Jolted Awake >>> Electrosiphon
    Hourglass of the Lost >>> Automated Assembly Line
    Aethersphere Harvester >>> Plasma Caster
    Plains >>> HELIOS One
    Grenzo, Havoc Raiser >>> Guide of Souls
    Austere Command >>> Wrath of the Skies
    Tezzeret's Gambit >>> Wheel of Potential
    Skyclave Apparition >>> Volatile Stormdrake
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    Energy Matters
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    Legion Loyalty >>> Aether Revolt
    Midnight Clock >>> Fabrication Module
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    Misc
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    Bident of Thassa >>> Panharmonicon
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    Core - Removal
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    Izzet Boilerworks >>> Path to Exile
    Azorius Chancery >>> Generous Gift
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    Lands
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    Plains >>> Sulfur Falls
    Island >>> Clifftop Retreat
    Mountain >>> Glacial Fortress
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    Additional Upgrades
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    Temple of Enlightenment >>> Hallowed Fountain
    Temple of Epiphany >>> Steam Vents
    Temple of Triumph >>> Sacred Foundry
    Burnished Hart >>> Dockside Extortionist

    • @Ger0nimo76
      @Ger0nimo76 7 місяців тому

      Could you please share decklist?

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  7 місяців тому +6

      @@Ger0nimo76 Decklist is in the description of the video but I have also edited this comment to include all the upgrades I made to the deck as well for ease of access.

    • @Ger0nimo76
      @Ger0nimo76 7 місяців тому

      @@GrazzetMTGthank you, much appreciated

    • @hml27
      @hml27 7 місяців тому

      Are all the upgrades that you can get from the science precon under energy?

    • @NDBarnZ
      @NDBarnZ Місяць тому

      Can you give a replacement for dockside since it got banned because i don't like burnished hart

  • @infinitevanguard2464
    @infinitevanguard2464 6 місяців тому +26

    I appreciate that you kept the deck about Energy. I was really sad when the Command Zone basically said you might as well not even bother with energy and just focus on ETB's.

    • @Mil89GR
      @Mil89GR Місяць тому +3

      Yeah, I was not keen of their upgrades either. This video here is better in my eyes.

  • @jegerikkeenfanafidverifika2304
    @jegerikkeenfanafidverifika2304 2 місяці тому +3

    This deck feels so good with these upgrades. Really packs a punch!

  • @mikailirwan3717
    @mikailirwan3717 8 місяців тому +4

    I was waiting for your take on the upgrades and you did not disappoint. Well done! Will be adding these cards when I can.

  • @hawaiiandreads7750
    @hawaiiandreads7750 8 місяців тому +5

    Your upgrades may have sold me on this deck. Already pick up the Jund. I may pick this up as well. I'll make sure to use the gamenerdz link if I do.

  • @KingRhogin
    @KingRhogin 8 місяців тому +4

    Loved this guide. Really glad to see energy get the love it deserves.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  8 місяців тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed it and yeah, energy has gotten a LOT of support between MH3 and Fallout - so energy players rejoice!

    • @KingRhogin
      @KingRhogin 8 місяців тому +1

      @@GrazzetMTG personally I added mirror box to my build so I could keep any copies of liberty prime or other legendaries. May throw in mechanized production as a potential win-con.

    • @Josh-Fischer9804
      @Josh-Fischer9804 Місяць тому

      @@KingRhogin well to help you out the fallout science already has a mechanized production in the deck itself so if you got that you're already ahead of the game and I'm not sure if it's even that expensive a card to get. Want mechanized production really fast and it's not cheap or unfair no joke enchant it to any artifact token you have seven of and watch yourself win rather quickly as mechanized production just enchants an artifact you control there is no specification as to what kind of artifact it has to be. Happy gaming >;).

  • @zack5913
    @zack5913 8 місяців тому +11

    Great upgrade!!! I wish there were more energy cards out there. Can’t wait for the next video!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  8 місяців тому +3

      Glad you think so and the next video should be dropping this weekend, so stay tuned!

  • @gd_xl
    @gd_xl 7 місяців тому +1

    made a bunch of these upgrades, deck is super strong now thanks.

  • @Alwayz114
    @Alwayz114 8 місяців тому +2

    I'm looking forward to picking up some singles from this deck amd MH3. My Dr Madison Lee deck basically has 3 commanders depending on my mood: Lee for slower value and consistency, Liberty Prime for voltron-y smash, and Satya for go wide ETB value smash. It's been great fun

  • @Vahlgar
    @Vahlgar 8 місяців тому +1

    Im so super excited for the Ulalek upgrade. I think that your suggestions are always awesome

  • @Progerard-uk8ix
    @Progerard-uk8ix 8 місяців тому +3

    Damn i am early, also nice video, continue like this bro.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for joining us so early and glad you liked it!

  • @KidAlphaMax
    @KidAlphaMax 8 місяців тому

    Great Video! The more I see this deck the more I want it!

  • @Ger0nimo76
    @Ger0nimo76 7 місяців тому

    Excellent as usual! Live long and prosper!

  • @michaelhurst5403
    @michaelhurst5403 8 місяців тому

    Some cool ideas. Thanks for sharing

  • @garchi721
    @garchi721 8 місяців тому

    can't wait for the next video!!!

  • @JapLomm
    @JapLomm 7 місяців тому

    Your upgrade suggestions are amazing. Thank you man. Lucky for us the energy cards drom MH3 are getting even cheaper so we can get more of them

  • @gavinlee9999
    @gavinlee9999 7 місяців тому

    Have both precons coming in the mail (Satya and Li) and have the gilded drake guy laying around so looking forward to playing with this!

  • @LtotheTtotheF
    @LtotheTtotheF 7 місяців тому +1

    Great Deck Tech as usual Grazzet, super useful ! I am surprised to see that you ended up not removing Goldspan Dragon and Professional Face-Breaker as you were mentioning in the precon in-depth analysis vid that it didn't have much meaning here (agree with you). What would you replace these two with ? (I am 100% saying this because these would be amazing additions in my Mr House dice roll/treasure deck :) )

  • @KoDKingVegeta
    @KoDKingVegeta 8 місяців тому

    I can’t wait for the Ulalek upgrade! Plz post that next 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @barrysetser3909
    @barrysetser3909 8 місяців тому

    Oooh - new Grazzet!

  • @liveanotheranime3526
    @liveanotheranime3526 8 місяців тому +1

    Another upgrade that fits and goes along with “Aether Revolt” is “All Will Be One”. Deals x damage to any target when you get x counters.
    Good upgrades and combining the two decks is great! Though personally I always keep Universe Beyond cards in their own deck/set.

    • @Lazerus101
      @Lazerus101 7 місяців тому

      I jammed All Will be one and Roaming Throne into my deck immediately.

    • @reginaldbutcha4844
      @reginaldbutcha4844 2 місяці тому

      Roaming throne along with panharnomicon? I like the way you think good sir

  • @Jeterfan906
    @Jeterfan906 8 місяців тому

    Can’t wait for Tricky Terrain upgrades!

  • @Lpolk117
    @Lpolk117 6 місяців тому

    Thinking Caretakers Talent and Agate Instigator from Bloomburrow, while not necessarily on brand with the futuristic stuff of modern horizons, would fit nicely in this deck

  • @Lukaz2009
    @Lukaz2009 7 місяців тому

    This is such a great upgrade list. Really focuses on what makes Satya so powerful without breaking the bank. The only real thing I disagree with is taking out Combustible Gearhulk. We have a high density of high mana value cards, so it becomes quite the gamble for opponents to repeatedly take the burn damage. Although I have also adopted the philosophy that milled cards may as well have been on the bottom of the deck instead of the next card I would have drawn, so it makes it easier for me to justify its inclusion.

  • @xplod3r
    @xplod3r 8 місяців тому +6

    not an energy card but eomer marshal of rohan seems to work well. he is legendary but when he sees a leg die you get another combat. so copy him the original sees the copy legend boom and you get another combat. then next combat you can copy him again and legend boom the original and the copy will give you another combat. seems decent

    • @Smokie1523
      @Smokie1523 Місяць тому

      Eomor says, whenever one or more attacking legendary creaures die, so i dont think that would work

    • @xplod3r
      @xplod3r Місяць тому +1

      @Smokie1523 sure does he just needs to see an attacking legendary creature die. The copy you make is 1. Attacking 2. Legendary and 3. Dies. You do need to attack with the original in the second combat for the copy to see him attacking and then die though.

    • @Smokie1523
      @Smokie1523 Місяць тому +1

      @xplod3r very true, didnt think about it coming in tapped and attacking. If thats the case, it definitely seems worth the include.

    • @Smokie1523
      @Smokie1523 Місяць тому

      @xplod3r after further inestigation, you wont get endless turns. Eomer triggers only once per turn, and you cant copy tokens with satya, so you will get an extra 2 combats per rotations, but not infinite.

    • @Smokie1523
      @Smokie1523 Місяць тому

      @xplod3r sorry, not sure if we was talkin about it goin infinite, but for some reason in my head we was lol

  • @Mil89GR
    @Mil89GR Місяць тому +3

    Thank you very much for the video! I know that I am a few months late but I just managed to find the precon here in UK for like 35£! That was a good price. For expensive upgrades, can we go with Elesh Born,Mother of Machine's in order to double our ETB payoffs ?And since we are generating energy counters, isn't "All will be one" good options for extra damage?

    • @ethanwright9214
      @ethanwright9214 22 дні тому +1

      Also Ojer Taq and Anointed Procession are great for this, but expensive, with the token copies they produce on top of Satya's ability.

  • @guico33
    @guico33 8 місяців тому

    Nice upgrade as always. I am a bit surprised you recommend shocklands as further upgrades when bondlands or slowlands are basically as effective without costing you life. Shocks are superior only if you can fetch them.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  7 місяців тому +2

      That's fair. They were more of an example of what direction we would need to take the deck in if we wanted to get any more mileage out if it since we've more or less run out of "good" energy cards to add to the build, but you are correct - Bondlands, Slow Lands, the other filterlands, etc. would all be fine, more economical additions to the deck to help us get more mileage out of our landbase without breaking the bank.

  • @danieldragotti2608
    @danieldragotti2608 8 місяців тому

    Some spicy included I added are Nesting dove hawk. And initiative granting creatues.

  • @chrisgebben2043
    @chrisgebben2043 8 місяців тому

    yea it was a bit obvious almost every upgrade would be from the fallout "Science!" precon but clearly it was no choice since theres not that much energy support in the first place and they are all great includes
    and im looking forward to Ulalek and seeing your takes on cuts and upgrades for it
    and as for the side commander pull we all know the winner with either be Azlask or Coram

  • @stositime
    @stositime 7 місяців тому

    Thank you Grazzet!! I've only played a handful of commander matches over the years. Got a good deal on this and picked up the singles mentioned. What power level would this be at given the upgrades?

  • @alexanderspalding3541
    @alexanderspalding3541 8 місяців тому

    I would hesitate to cut Jolted Awake so quickly, for just a single mana it is an extremely flexible recursion spell and at its very worst it will always still cycle even if we're energy-starved. I would maybe cut Roil Cartographer instead, as it's a very slow way to generate energy and we have more than enough ways to spend it at our disposal.

  • @Gingerninja-mm3uo
    @Gingerninja-mm3uo 8 місяців тому

    Cannot wait for tricky terrain, love abusing everything counters

  • @Sal-uy1fq
    @Sal-uy1fq 8 місяців тому

    This deck is fun and goes fast if nothing is countered. It almost has merfolk precon speed.

  • @xagric1840
    @xagric1840 8 місяців тому

    How do you feel about Electrostatic Pummeler? Also, thoughts on switching Glimmer of Genius with Tune the Narrative?

  • @VinceOfAllTrades
    @VinceOfAllTrades 8 місяців тому +2

    I've noticed in these precon upgrades that you tend to keep the backup commander in the deck but cut most of the support cards for them. Is this an intentional decision? It seems like we don't lose much by cutting Cayth.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  8 місяців тому +3

      Depends on the backup commander honestly. In this case Cayth, while not what I would consider the "best" 4 drop we could run, still is serviceable enough in this deck as a means to get extra permanent token copies of our creatures alongside our commander while staying within the $35 budget of our upgrade. But in the case of the commander having little or no synergy (AKA - wanting to do its own thing completely independent of our commander), I would then cut them so they could helm a build of their own.
      Hope that helps explain my reasoning.

  • @TheBigPenguu
    @TheBigPenguu 8 місяців тому

    Every upgrade option had me going:
    Yes.
    YES.
    YEEEESSS!!
    YEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!
    😄😄😄😄😄

  • @supersalty_9459
    @supersalty_9459 7 місяців тому

    ENERGY! NEED MORE ENERGY!!!

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  7 місяців тому +1

      Scotty, we need more pow- err, ENERGY!

    • @supersalty_9459
      @supersalty_9459 7 місяців тому

      @@GrazzetMTG honestly, I might get his precon, don't have a American colors nor an energy deck :) why not

  • @BrendonBrill
    @BrendonBrill 7 місяців тому

    Would you put brago king eternal in the deck just keep bouncing etb creatures that give you energy

  • @jdsowell3501
    @jdsowell3501 2 місяці тому +2

    Just in case anyone wanted a text format of changes:
    (apologies for any typos)
    scrap:
    coveted jewel
    angel of invention
    myr battle sphere
    filigree racer
    brudiclad, techlor engineer
    combustible gearhulk
    siverquill lecturer
    overclocked electromancer
    jolted awake
    hourglass of the lost
    aethersphere harvester
    plains x2
    island
    mountain
    grenzo, havoc raiser
    austere command
    tezzeret's gambit
    skyclave apparition
    legion loyalty
    midnight clock
    bident of thasa
    izzet boilerworks
    azorius chancery
    add:
    dr. madison li
    brotherhood scribe
    liberty prime, recharged
    assaultron dominator
    sentry bot
    behemoth of vault 0
    the motherlode, excavator
    synth eradicator
    electrosiphon
    automated assembly line
    plasma caster
    helios one
    guide of souls
    wrath of the skies
    wheel of potential
    volitile stormdrake
    aether revolt
    fabrication module
    panharmonicon
    generous gift
    sulfur falls
    clifftop retreat
    glacial fortress

    • @GeneralPuni
      @GeneralPuni 2 місяці тому

      You know his pinned comment says this right?

  • @Josh-Fischer9804
    @Josh-Fischer9804 8 місяців тому +2

    I've already said it straight to some people for fun but buy this deck creative energy, the science deck from fallout, a booster box from Kaladesh and a booster box from aether revolt and you pretty much have an energy deck set for life as you can effectively get every energy card your heart desires with these four boxes alone but we may be set back $500 so be careful about that little hiccup when executing this idea as I said this is for fun but I'm not wrong

    • @liveanotheranime3526
      @liveanotheranime3526 8 місяців тому +4

      This energy and Science Deck and singles is enough. Why would you recommend to someone new just wanting an energy deck to waste money on a booster box of Kaladesh and Aether Revolt when everything is in one of these decks or cheap singles? XD

    • @Josh-Fischer9804
      @Josh-Fischer9804 8 місяців тому

      @liveanotheranime3526 because I didn't study the decklists and Kaladesh and aether revolt are the two sets that introduced energy counters as well as dominated with them and you are right cheap singles is both the way I go and the way to go as booster packs NEVER work in my favor and it is a money saver to buy singles rather than booster packs for me

    • @howtyplcal350
      @howtyplcal350 8 місяців тому

      @@Josh-Fischer9804honestly I don’t think we run more than MAYBE 1 energy associated card from either of those sets that wasn’t reprinted in these decks in Grazz’s list. Most of the singles we have are the new ones from MH3, and I think that’s only maybe 10-15 dollars in singles

    • @Josh-Fischer9804
      @Josh-Fischer9804 8 місяців тому

      @howtyplcal350 what this essentially means is that out of all four decks that were made and printed is that creative energy is the most budget friendly and most affordable of all of them that should be noted by all who play magic and all energy players should really rejoice.

    • @howtyplcal350
      @howtyplcal350 7 місяців тому

      @@Josh-Fischer9804 I think the simic deck will have some great budget options as well and being a simic lands matter deck will make it an absolute house

  • @iambutter2784
    @iambutter2784 8 місяців тому

    So im hearing just mash the two Jeskai energy decks together 🤔🤔🤔

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  7 місяців тому

      Honestly you're not wrong. The Science! Precon as a LOT of energy support that is simply better than what we got back in Kaladesh, so we'd be severely hampering ourselves if we don't take advantage of it - but that does end up making this more a of combination of 2 precons with a handful of MH3 cards sprinkled in.

  • @RetroBonesMA
    @RetroBonesMA 8 місяців тому

    Not the ERERGY CONSUMPTION 😭

  • @Galchoo1
    @Galchoo1 8 місяців тому

    To quote that one 80s song whose name I can't remember: ENERGYYYYYYYYYYYY~
    So yeah, amazing video as always!
    Next up on the upgrade block... cthulhu fhtagn! Cthulhu Fhtagn!!!!
    Day 1012 of waiting for the face reveal... as for my vote, it goes to THE UNDERTAKERRRRR!!! Ever watched wrestling? Cause you might have a nice resource for the thumbnail if he wins.

    • @GrazzetMTG
      @GrazzetMTG  7 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it and I'm happy to hear that you and all the other cultists are excited about the Eldrazi Incursion Precon! (N̸̝͙̑͊̄̈́̽͗͋̏̔͘͝y̶̡͔̰̜͉̲̩͕̺̩̙͙̔́̽̌̍͌͑̇̒̽͛̏ͅą̴̨̢̢̩͖͎̩̱͔̼͍̤͕̋̈́̃̀̒̓͗͌̔̊̿̕r̸̙͊̂̽̀͆̒́͠l̶͔̹̭͙̯̩͉̈́̋̕͝ǎ̷͎͆̀̈͆̍̑͝t̵̨̢̧̮̳̪̭̮̖͇̩̩̎̓͐̑̈̾͑̒̅̍̒̄̉͜ͅḫ̶̡̝̽̋͐͂̏͘ǫ̵̧̟̗̙̞͖̥͙̲̦̟̪̔̃̽͝͠ṭ̶̢̮̫̩̪͔̗̹̦̘̲̯͇̜̅̐̆̽͌ę̴̡̙͇͎̠͇͙̩̟̱̟̏̎͗̀̔̑̄p̶͚̹̋̀͐̆̈́͂̓͌͛̈́̚ ̵̝̬͕̹̗̄̄̌̽̃̿͊̉̄̚͝w̸͈̦̰͎̔̓̐͜i̶̧̡̧̛̠͓̗̘̗̳̲̱͂̈́̀̐̐̆͜͝l̵̡̺̹͙̣̖͖̝͈̫̩͐͗́̽̂l̶̛͎̔̄̉̐̅̒ ̵̧̟͖̳̙̗̯̤̳̯̙̩̎̿̈́̀̆͋̓́͂͆̑̾̀͝͠b̷̡̥̣̠̹̘̭̣̞͍͇̮͉̯͐̿̒̍̒̀͘͠͠ͅe̶̖͊̎̋̆̇ ̶̖̰̯̬̍̏͛̌́̕p̸̡̡͎̻̩̲͈̤̜̪͎̣͖͖͌̑̏̂̿̀̔͛̚̕͝ļ̵̰̠̠͆͝͝ȅ̵̫̲̱̼̯͉̐͆͊̒͘̚ḁ̴̧̞̹͎̲̮͓̦͚̞̩̓̌̌̂͋̄͜͜s̶̢͚̹̝̭̗͕͉̼͈͍͊̓̊̏̇̃͑̍ë̸̢͉̰̬͉̓̃̿̈͝ͅḍ̷͎̲̗̞̂͜ͅ)
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  • @NikonRaccoon
    @NikonRaccoon 8 місяців тому

    I wish there were less Fallout cards and more cards from the MH3 or the original Kaladesh.

  • @Gvaz
    @Gvaz 7 місяців тому +1

    is this AI voiced?

  • @BananaBanditos
    @BananaBanditos 7 місяців тому

    You've gotta tighten this script up. I should be able to understand which cards and what set they're from are going into the deck just by listening.
    Once the listener understands the cards that are going in and coming out, you can move into whys and what the new cards do in comparison from the old ones .
    As is, I'm not able to clearly understand by solely listening a single card that's being added because you immediately go into card text and use cases.
    Slow it down, put more focus on the cards and that the script highlights them, and not necessarily what each individual one does so quickly.
    Putting additional adjectives in front of and behind card names, in a game where card names are already flooded with adjectives, really fails to make clear the actual name of the card you're presenting.