ESO - RIP Lightning Staff?
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2023
- The lightning staff passives have changed AGAIN for the 7millionth time in the last 6 years in The Elder Scrolls online. Is it bad? is it good? Check the video for a clear explanation of what they have done AND the potential it holds for the future.
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Every other MMO: Rebalance a few damage calculators once or twice a year.
ZOS: Fundamentally change the function of weapons and skills every 3 months…
It’s exhausting to keep up with
I remember why I quit Destiny 2. I would grind and grind to get the perfect drops to craft the perfect build and then bungle would flip the script and those same “perfect drops” would now be meh, replaced by the new hotness.. :\
I am getting to that point with ESO.
For the first time in 2500 hours of playing this game, I was able to beat vet vatashran hollows, with a lightning heavy attack Sorc, then with similar DK HA build. It goes without saying that many of us don’t want to or simply can’t engage carpal tunnel mode as we slap relequins on and kiss our late in life hand function goodbye. These lightning HA builds were one thing above all (ACCESSIBILITY) and if zos strips that accessibility away from those of us who cherish it, in the long run they will loose more money as I genuinely believe their are more of us, than there are relequin sweats pushing the target dummy.
Zos, I believe I know what you are doing, you are attempting to push the arcanist so you can sell more dlc. I would consider very carefully the short term gains of this course of action compared to the long term loss of alienating the majority of the player base.
Just my opinion, there are always other games, and I hope you people at zos understand that.
These last few years worth of non-stop nerfs have just made me feel like that episode of the Simpsons, where Milhouse is being chased down the street by that ray of light that is burning the ground behind him as it goes.
This is going to hit my Arcanist really fucking hard, and just as I was starting to not be completely disappointed with it on the whole.
I tested this out on the PTS and if you're running an HA build this will be a huge nerf. The Lightning Staff AOE was king in the HA build for killing trash and adds. This change is not okay. Not even close. Now, the damage against single target has increased but the AOE component is dead and this is a major issue. If you're trying to burn down trash MOB's, chances are the one your got in your sights, will die before the HA is complete which means the final AOE hit never occurs. If you actually run an HA build you know what I'm talking about. I'm at the point where I'm tired of having to recreate my builds, losing all the coin and resources I spent on them, every other patch, not to mention having to change my playstyle. For nothing. There was no reason to do this change. It hurt no one. Lets see if it sticks.
I do wish the adjustment was less heavy handed.
Instead of removing the aoe from the tics they could adjust it from 100% down to 50% across all tics, including the final pop.
Zos is really annoying sometimes!!!
Can’t you just use other abilities for AOE? I think ZOS is trying to change the mind numbing gameplay of just holding in left mouse button.
@@ellamint360I like using overload ult on sorc for aoe and switch to
storm atronach for single target
Or just get a normal build, made for people with thumbs
Cancelled the renew on my eso plus as soon as I heard about this one. Can't be bothered dealing with more nerfs. Been learning to play stam dk since last oakensoul nerf. Now I hear that's getting nerfed too. I'm out
Rip the only thing resembling chain lightning. 😢
I reserve judgment on this abomination until the end of the pts cycle.
Brother you got a 12% dmg buff to all dots, thats crazy
@mistjuul990 only a 2% increase to dots that were area. A 12% increase to dots that are single target.
First fire now lightning. When do you think they’re gonna remove the shield from ice staff? Seems to me that they want us to run stam toons from now on.
Could this change be currently affecting all dot and aoe damage sources? Like whorle and frost bite and like 90% of a dot wardens skills?
I have not tested this myself yet, but the way the passive reads I would almost assume that channeled dots get the 12% twice. But that would be busted as hell so I‘m not getting my hopes up.
it doesn't work that way for deadly strikes so I'd think not.
How does deadly strike do with lightning staff ?
6 months later, they will revert. ESO is a rollercoaster simulator without the fun ride. 😵💫
Ice Staff to Lightning Staff, both on the gallows pole: "First time?"
😂
I remember a few years ago (I think) when they changed up Ennervate/Consuming Soul Trap/Fire Rune and a bunch of other underused AOE skills to make them much more attractive and I kinda enjoyed the DoT upkeep playstyle on my MagSorc, reminded me a little bit of playing Warlocks in WoW. With the lightning staff now focusing on DoT damage I'm excited to try a similar build again.
With every single dot being nerfed by 50% in the past 2 years, i wish you good luck with your new tiny dot on lightning staff and losing entire AOE damage.
@@mjlee8013 right on parselord. I’m sure I’ll have fun.
Does any1 have a 2 bar sorc trial setup plz.that hits hard and not too complicated
Anyone have a single target parse with easy sorc?
|🇫| ESO self owns, time and time again.
Nah, the LS heavy attack must be affected by damage over time. If that‘s not happening with this specific passive on the PTS, I am certain they will fix it until it reaches live. They have been pretty consistent with these tooltips in the past. So we can expect the dps to increase.
so now we can replace daggers on arcanist with light staff?
I thought from the start this change would be good on a Templar and great on an Arcanist.
I am very concerned about the effect on Easy Sorc. I suppose with the change to Bound armor I can slot liquid lightning for an added ground dot, Or some other aoe dot. Do we know if the new lightning staff passive works on the orb from the undaunted line?
Very well thought out question. The orb isn't a channel however the damage morph is a DoT, so I imagine that part will get a bump. Generally speaking it seems the DPS will only be slightly nerfed
Sorcs have been busted so they prolly nerfing em this way.
You're doing God's work sir. Thanks for all you do
I read it as “here’s another addition to Deadly set builds..”
Lol, then I hear it in the video after commenting.
What System we playing on y’all? I’m starting today after not playing in years and tryna seee where everyone at
Its already live or PTR? Id swear my channel ticks still do splash dmg
I guess the zone stories can still be fun. The grind gets old quick and i just got back into playing again and thought it was cool to try high isle since i got eso plus. I find it curious that they would make drastic enough changes to the things i have access to, resulting in me personally not want to use anything more than an old hundings rage set to see the story and leave till next year maybe
They don’t know what they’re doing.
They spent two years nurfing docs, and finally realize that the best dots were actually burning/poison on the DK - that seem to be finally needing that.
They’ve made lightning staffs the channel/dot choice but that leaves you with no real CC for arcanist or necro
And finally as you’ve pointed out.. do a wheel is still the way to go especially when you tack on masters weapons
No… They didn’t suddenly get competent. They’re still clueless
Got to love these game development experts.
'Throw the budgie' thats it, the warden is my new main just for that, ty 🤣😂
Will light deadly staff be better then dual daggers for Stam Arcanist?
I'm curious I use a deadly lightning staff for my hybridish arcanist but I think this is actually a good thing because it's going to buff alot skills
no but its by like 0.5% on a 120k+ parse IIRC
it would nerf my build, I'm not sure what the meta is but I run deadly, 3 piece nirn w/ nirn gs backbar, velothi amulet and spectral cloak daggers. that 6% from spectral cloak is doing God's work far and away from what lightning is doing atm. not something a 2% increase will help.
@@moizzy1587 you could always run dagger BB and lightning front? as for meta you are on point for non-trial set DD settup for arcanist.
@@antarescypher2551 you don't get the benefit of spectral cloak unless you're on front bar making sure all your cloak ticks hit and I think it's a net gain in dps from not having to refresh stampede as often as wall for berserker glyph. less rotation, more time beaming. I do t have hard numbers for you it just feels smoother to play imo and my times are better.
edit: correction, I guess arena sets do work backbar, I've just gotten my full set up running and didn't know sorry. but I still think not having to rotate out of front bar as often with bb 2h is a better playing experience. if it were a huge increase like 5% or more i might value the dps of lightning staff over my comfort but otherwise not really.
Lightning staff increase channeled and dot abilities by 12%+Necromancer passive that increases DOT even more+maybe even add a set that also increases your DOT
Deadly + RuneCarver
@@Business101HQ yeah Deadly Strike Set. I wouldn’t use runecarver tho. But the three main things I got from all this is necro passive, lightning staff passive, and the deadly strike set. Three sources to increase your DOT. I assume a set that increases your crits would be a good choice for a second set.
@@nothinghereligma3363 crit set would be fine, but if your crit is already high then the extra ticks from RuneCarver on a near full dot build on necro with these changes will be such easy DPS - though I like it also on classes with built in extra crit chance like magplar
@@Business101HQ yeah a flex spot for sure :)
@@nothinghereligma3363 Indeed! just go with whatever feels good for you that hits the numbers you want!
Hey Xynode would you say that we're looking at magDK and magPlars will probably use lightning staff over flame? Thanks in advance for the advice 😃
DK Will probs use dual daggers, plars will almost definitely be lightning staff
Well this means I will have no main class to play now, they could have just made the fire and ice staff do what the lighting staff does
So it is basically buff that helps arcanists
Unless you were using heavy attack as a means of managing trash, in which case it hurts everybody irrespective of class. Myself included....again.
ZoS genuinely seems to have trash job management for DPS now, especially in PVE, and I am already with one foot out the door after the bullshit they pulled with Plaguebreak.
@@AntiSCO but if play the meta DPS builds for Arcanist with Deadly Strikes and Velodrath this adds even more to the channels, makes no sense to me because everybody is playing this already and it is already about top dps, so a really unnecessary buff. It definitely hurt HA builds, but they were the last big thing... everybody already has their oakensoul and done it for at least the last 6 months... I dont like it, but yeah i can understand the logic at least economically
@@benjamineer3045 I don't play the meta, never have. It's the usual treadmill action of being collateral damage just because ZoS enjoys fucking with meta players. It is very exhausting.
they know how to take the fun out of a game fk me,
I like the new lightning staff, gonna increase my DoT's and channeling damage my arcanist is gonna be using this all the time!
I’m just trying to find a lightning staff
Guaranteed this was to nuke HA builds.
Sounds like arc wep
Idk. I was doing some tests on pts. Arcanist still doing 5k-7k more dps with dual w + inf staff than with two lightning staves. Kinda weird
Well looks like I’m about to be a exoprimal main lol I can’t stand unnecessary changes to things that can be put on the back burner while the focus should be directed toward bigger issues.
Also seems like they’re trying to passive aggressively get rid of all HA sorcs tbh
Seems on a boss it will still be fine but guess we will see
Lightning staff jabplars everywhere. Wonderful.
Realistically nothing gonna change meta wise, we still gonna do Dw/fire or dw/2h
I think thats why it's such a dumb and silly change for the sake of change I don't think zos could really defend it if they had to theyre just lucky that they get to ignore the community and not listen to what people want and for a lot of people it's the only mmo to play really on console just have to get dumped on every 3 months while they continue to not listen. Which is why I buy nothing from the crown store anymore.
Lightning Trifocus has been the most grossly overperforming passive in the game for years - and given the wording for the other two staff types it's safe to assume it was only ever intended to impact fully-charged heavies.
I don't like the Ancient Knowledge change; it makes no sense from a thematic perspective, and doesn't synergise with lightning staff versions of either Clench or Pulsar, which are both AoE DD.
12% DoT/channel increase should apply to flame staff to compensate for the 10% ST dmg nerf, because it's thematically appropriate (i.e burning stuff over time) and synergises with the fully-charged HA fire DoT + the Pulsar Afterburn effect, and lightning staff should get a 12% direct damage buff instead, which is cohesive with Clench, Pulsar AND the U39 lightning Trifocus.
I would say theme wise lightning should be direct and aoe like thunder that zaps and spreads in a instance. While fire should be overtime and single target like a slow burn that consumes the target until reducing it to ash.
Both should play the opposite to the other while ice doing it's icy defence thingy as it should.
Meh lightning staff doesn't deal with ADD pools all by itself so well, but it's higher single target now because it's buffing itself not the AOE it does
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It’s not broken don’t need to fix
So they nerfed lighting staff ouch my Oaken builds will hurt
Make it 10% again, bring back the dot channel aoe 🤷🏻♂️ balanced?
They're should make Undaunted skill: Inner Fire
AoE not something no one asked for like change Lightning Staff
I think you skipped over the biggest part, in ad pools we don't finish a HA as is so now we're regulated to killing ad mobs one by one or slamming aoe's every single pack. Go solo on norm wayrest sewers and tell me it's overpowered, I guarantee you'll see it differently.
flame staff god butchered even more than lightning.
There's a lot of change fatigue lately in ESO.
Always trying to touch things that aren’t broken….. where’s the night blade and werewolf pve buffs?
Nightblade had some really nice changes in the pts notes. Check them out.
Lol i dont get these devs for we focus on heavy attack builds only to kill it completely lol
Its kinda stupid, leave it alone. Now they going to have to change jesus beam to fix this change, i sont understand. Example: cp to increase hp rec...breaks hp rec in pvp... nerf hp rec by 50% in pvp 🤔! Stupid imo. Devs break the game, to fix the game, is this not counter intuitive????
Don’t care much for numbers. How does it feel compared to before? Just my opinion but priority should be to make gameplay satisfying not focus on what score pushers and such are able to squeeze out of it.
I agree I think the sad part is that really top end dps was and is always 2 bar set ups that haven't been using the lightning staff anyway so this was an alternate to the meta that worked for a lot of people was easy but wasn't the meta so if you found it boring or to easy you didn't have to use it. Their was always better more powerful options with a higher skill level. Anyone who says otherwise is gatekeeping content in the game and is just as culpable as zos for ruining a playstyle that many enjoyed. I love aoe way more than single target idc if im doing 40k less damage than my 2 bar builds. I think its silly af there's people making excuses for zos on this change.
@@Pearce989 personally don’t care much for 1 bar builds myself, I have been playing like 7 to 8 years and pretty much only tank group content. However I play around with solo builds a lot for fun in most my time playing and it’s just tiring and impossible to make a fun and satisfying build because damage in the game is built around putting 20 dots on a boss with millions of health for group content but for playing solo I wish we had the ability to have high impact skills that make things go boom lol. So frustrating running around overland or dungeons and such with these types of skills because it’s just such a waste of time putting any kind of dot on anything that isn’t a boss but the burst skills aren’t quite impactful enough to feel right on their own either. I have always wanted to see skills that are front loaded with the damage output of a dot in one instant but because skills don’t have cooldowns they could just add drawbacks to them such as the sorcerers streak where it has a huge increase to cost for a duration after cast, or they could make it so that it doesn’t do as much damage for a duration after cast. If they would implement more skills like this by adding more guild skill lines and such we could have entire builds able to be built around chaining these burst skills together and would be a great new playstyle to get us out of the same dot build everything runs that could be effective in theory in group content but especially for solo where 99% of the skills we have are a waste of time. The one issue we have is that more burst damage would be bad for pvp but in these skills they could just add the “to monster” clause and it would be good.
@eldenmox5525 They have plenty of verbage and sets to add new playstyles into the game. Why they insist on ruining mediocre things like HA sorc that I get is not for everyone doesnt really hurt anyone either no one complaining about HA being boring or easy is actually affected in a negative way you can just simply not use it or not allow it in your comp. I agree if they wanted to really do some thing they could add new styles in and leave other things alone, its a complete waste of a pts cycle to change all the passives around for staves and change fundamental mechanics of weapons that have existed for a decade now. They either are completely ignorant or pushing people to buy arcanist which is a slimey gross was to do business I think theyre also worried that aoe would trivialize the new 2 person stuff they're adding at the end of the year so rather than make the content better they'll just ruin a playstyle. But I agree it'd be nice if they added more than just the dot stuff i find it as boring as others find HA.
I'm glad mag users can use staves instead of daggers again
TEMPLARS UNIIIIITE!!!!!
Temp for life....
Ty for the post. Looks like they are trying to nerf 1 bar builds. Logic probably 1 bar builds designed for single target and getting the AE perk .
trying to push beam to win/necrom. Not much comes close to a well played Arcanist these days it seems, especially aoe. The only thing I've noticed them missing is a class specific aoe DD pull to proc tormentor for ez-tanking. I guess 2H back bar or 2H tanking maybe even with those shields.
@@orbital78_ the arcanist will probably get nerfed in the 4th quarter, to early to can it. Eso in a fragile place at the moment...
Love playing trashplar with DOT. People make fun of me in PvP. If they go this direction, people will hate me more = 👍
when those that think they know... do not
...and I quote. 🤣
Devs patches so bad. They dont play their own game. No patch last years was good.
They are pushing a skill meta. Velothi didn’t sell enough Necroms
Velothi wasn't supposed to. Considering they made it useless to every other class except Arcanist lol. It was such a dumb move
It’s used on all my dps trash builds.
@@dannyrivable an item that was supposed to help people who can't weave well is only good for trash pulls and Arcanist brilliant design by ZoS.
@@lukasr1166 According to esologs that’s not actually the case. Im seeing it used on plar and DK too for a number of top parses. Are people upset it didn’t just replace light weaving in general?
@@dannyrivable it should be an improvment with bad weaving at the very least. It a DPS loss on most classes with good weaving and makes no difference with bad/mediocre weaving,
And you still using it to this day bro
LOL
This will make people leave and then I can see the arcinest being reduced in DPS just see it coming
If people leave because of this then that’s pathetic
@@gaelicgladiator9407 Agreed, ZOS *is* pathetic.
I was expecting nerfs to Arcanist after Whitestrakes and the immortal tanks, but it is too soon. Necrom enjoyers have another 3 months or so probably to enjoy their fun builds before the anti-fun hammer comes.
@@gaelicgladiator9407I have to disagree changing a huge playstyle in the community right now has to be one of the best reasons for people to leave especially when so many are under the impression that it's to push the Arcanist sales.
@@orbital78_I'll probably be enjoying Starfield and Baldurs Gate 3 before they nerf Arcanist. It will be a nice time to take another long break from this game.
Xynode in the beginning: Kinda Cool dude
Xynode the past year: 🤓🤓🤡
Literals
I was thinking this update REALLY BUFFS the Arcanist… even more 😳… the Arcanist is already really powerful, I don’t know if it needed more buffs🤔
Arcanist is already near the top of AOE damage, and this change would push them much higher than other classes 👀
Really... They buff the class you need to pay for, how surprising :D. Probably will be nerfed once Necrom gets some sales etc :)
@@davidthane9002 That's what happens every single expansion. They make something so OP (Arcanist, Oakensoul, other mythics...) that everyone needs it and then after enough sales nerf it to mediocrity.
nah, daggers are still much better.
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HA builds are dead as a meta choice. Still a decent noob set up. Rip oaken was fun while it lasted
:’(
Zero point in any nerfs for anything. Seems like only people bitching about anything are pvp folk. Devs need to chill the fook out . I say buff everything. Nerfs for anything are pointless.
Bad update
This is going to greatly increase the effectiveness of Arcanist
nah rip flame staff...it won't buff single target any more. Lightning will be even better for arcanist and plar after the update
*inserts edgy "expert" opinion
*inserts sarcastic "told you so" reply
I'm the HA build 2 bar can't do 1 bar I like having a challenge using my rotation instead of being lazy holding down R2 lol
Its nice to see those ridiculous DMG numbers in trash by holding LMB will come down a little. Definitely needed. It was absolutely a joke.
Tho sad to see the changes on inferno staff HA...
Oh no a build that could be played with your feet got a nerf...
Weird sass for something that you can literally just not use...
@@Pearce989 not weird at all. I'd say the same thing if they put a button in that allowed you to press it once and do 300k dps but then removed it. Oh no the build you can afk is being nerfed...
@@SLP0101 projection lol.
I love that they have begun to nerf that mindless heavy attack build that everyone has been using and now people are crying out 'change fatigue' like you thought the not knowing how to play the game was going to stay viable forever.
So - out of curiosity - which color crayon IS your favorite midafternoon snack?
This game can play a 6 years old child. Pls don't cry 😂 pve is to easy. And is it boring.
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I like your outfit!!
Leave it to zos to nerf your character to the floor like they do every 4 months