Harley Davidson BEST Upgrades / Get the most out of your BAGGER
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2019
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Thanks for all you do Adam. Good advice isn't cheap. I know you went through a lot to learn what you just shared in 10 minutes or less, heck yeah I appreciate it.
ASR staying true to the mission of helping Veterans and enhancing the motorcycling lifestyle. Keep rock’n it brother.
Suspension is everything along with frame alignment and frame strength the ability to work all together is a thing of beauty and a rider's dream.Godspeed to you in your endeavors out in the world and on the road!
Adam is right on. Suspension is important ! Adam carries a lot of extra weight on long road trips. Not like some of us ! In the old days we say “ T T-en “ ( Tavern To Tavern ) not going to far !!! I ride a 1997 Roadking ...21” stock air on front. Rear I made brackets for 10” coil overs, welded on and move forward 4” on the swing arm . Moved 5” on top forward, made new fender struts for old style “ Hinge Fender “ . 1970’s look. Stiffer swing arm bushings. Rico from Arizona “Ride Tight, Be Safe “ 😎🌵🌴🇺🇸🇺🇸
Carlrico parrish very cool👊🏽
Great video. I like that you discuss handling, your experiences that have led you to were you are etc. Some folks spend top dollar on a bike polish it daily and ride it once in awhile. It is refreshing to see this video, some dust and dirt and quality parts. I have never purchased a single vehicle truck, car or bike that didn’t need upgrades. Thanks for the info and keep it going.👍
Thank you for helping veterans.
Your spot on! I too upgraded my 2019 streetglide. All led lights, air ride , new color match seat, color match inner fairing, speaker lid on saddle bags. Razor tour pack with speakers and chromed out accents to bike. Ride from AZ to Ny every year. Great riding machine. Ride on my friend. 49 yrs pounding pavement.
Literally just stumbled upon this video. I have had many new bikes through the years and vowed I would never ever go back to Harley. Well, I got a great deal at the end of Dec 2019 on a new used 2016 Ultra Limited with 15 miles on it and brought it home. As soon as I got the bike, the modifications began and all the bad memories of my first Harley came back. I typically modify my bikes for safety reasons and comfort - thats about it. This is what I have replaced so far: 1) front turn signals to LEDs, 2) Seat and rider backrest, 3) tail light to LED and fillers to LED, 4) Stereo, 5) rear shocks, 6) Handle bars and grips and thats about it. Having to upgrade brought back all the bad memories of my first Harley because of the ridiculous costs of everything and sub par parts on the bikes. I am SOOOO glad I bought the bike used and not from a dealership because the bike was literally half price from a new 2020. Of all the bikes I have owned, only the Harleys needed this much upgrading. Forget any engine work or chrome, I literally had to replace parts for comfort and safety. Even my 2008 Goldwing I bought new didn't need half the stuff my Harley needed. The Goldwing was far from perfect, but it put out adequate power, had reverse, electronic suspension, etc... This is a main reason why Harley is slowly dying. I think the new Livewire is a perfect example of whats wrong with Harley. They are late to the game with technology, expensive and thinks everyone is going to buy into their branding. I guarantee that millennial's dont care about the Harley name and wont be spending $31k+ on an electric bike. Very sad.....
Thanks for tuning in! That's quite a good deal you got. Congratulations! I hope you subscribed, we have 5 videos coming at ya every week with lots of varying content
@@adamsandoval Whats your opinion on the rear shocks? I went with Legends but seriously considered Progressive 944s?
Amen Brother!! I put Legend revo a's in the rear, and Legend Axeo's on the front suspension of my 2018 Road King. What a difference! Worth every penny!!
Last year I put Legends suspension on my 2011 Ultra Limited. That has been the best upgrade I’ve done, it rides so much better now.
Adam, for what Harley charges we should not have to re engineer the whole damn suspension! After all, we are talking about Harley’s top of the line touring bike! Indian got it right, right out of the box! Mono shock long travel Fox shock, LED lighting, remote locking bags, riding modes, better balanced frame with low slung seating position, power windshield... and now a new 122 Horsepower liquid cooled motor ALL STANDARD! You just can’t ignore Indian these days! If Harley isn’t looking out for me, why should I look out for them? I am going with a brand that has it all figured out and engineered IN...That is Indian at this time. Maybe Harley should be paying more attention to improving their touring line instead of pushing a politically correct $33,000 ( taxes and fees) electric motor scooter! Sorry Adam, no sale on the Harley until they catch up with Indian! Ahhhh competition in America! I love it!
Boy I totally agree $35,000 you should not have to do anyting my only problem Indian no dealer Network they could fold in a year
jim wortham Jim, it is obvious Indian/Polaris is in the motorcycle business for long term and not going anywhere. Look at the advanced tech they are investing in and they are very diverse producing all kinds of motor sport products.
I think you should visit a Polaris store and walk through their product lines...they are well spread out in the motor sport world and have a very committed racing program and completely dominate the flat track circuit taking 1,2,3,4,5,6 place! No one is touching them! And now a liquid cooled 122 horsepower touring bike, Indian is not sitting on their hands and is steadily grabbing market share, and that is freaking Harley Davidson out! These days, people want value and innovation combined with a rumbling classic motorcycle design which includes a powerful fire breathing internal combustion engine! Not a electric motor scooter which reminds many people of a $33,000 wheelchair!
They have almost 200 dealers. Could they use a few more? Absolutely! But they don’t need the level of over saturation HD has. Does Chicago land area really need 30+ HD dealers? 4 Indian dealers in that same area is fine. Check out the video by Gears and Gadgets on this topic and you’ll see that there are plenty of Indian dealers and the brand is getting stronger.
Thanks for your input. I completely agree with you on this. Looking forward to upgrading to a new cam and oil pump, plus new suspension on my '17 RGS.
Finally I got a clear explanation about suspension from all aspects. Thanks Adam great and priceless information to know. Although i didn’t really made up my mind towards Legends Or Ohlins.
Thanks again
( New Rider, since 2017) Thanks! I'm a big guy, so Bottoming out is a Regular occurrence - I'll check this out!!
I don't care what brand you have .. Adding some bright LED brake lights on the back .. I put Ardmore on my was not cheap $200.00 but cars can see it pretty well ..
Mike Skidmore I agree!
@@adamsandoval Here it is mount on your License Plate bracket
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Great video Adam, much appreciated! An upgraded suspension is out of budget for me at the moment but is definitely on my list of upgrades to come. Thanks for what you do for the community brotha, keep it up!
Peace and blessings brother keep up the great work!
That is some really great info, thanks Adam!
Tons of great information very well delivered. Thank you.
Adam, thanks for your videos on Legend shocks.I started dreaming about them after seeing your videos. I was finally able to add the Legend Revo Arcs on my 2014 Ultra Limited. I was just starting to get them dialed in for my 700mile trip out to join you in the Harley Parade. The morning I left to head to Texas for the Harley Parade, a young kid decided I wasn’t supposed to make it there and pulled out in front of me just 30 miles from my house. Now I’m working to get my broken wrist back into working order (read *riding capable*). I feel your pain on surgery recovery. I’m so happy y’all didn’t come one short in making the Guinness record with the Harley Parade! Keep the videos coming brother!
Gary Hill so sorry to hear this man
Great information, as well as good information from your personal riding experience. Will keep in mind when I do purchase shocks.
I have a 2013 Ultra Limited. I installed a set of Pro Action coil over rear shocks this summer. It was the biggest improvement I ever made to the bike. I plan on installing a front end kit next summer by Pro Action. There world headquarters is 15 miles from were I live in Beaver Falls Pa.
Great video Adam 👍🏻 Thank you.... I will definitely check them out !
Great information Adam!
Dont know why many ppl are complaining. I have a stock suspension on my 09' StreetGlide (sits 1" lower than other touring Harleys). I came from a lowered Deuce and this glide is a dream stock (Ive had broken my tailbone in 2013). Im not spoiled but im happy. Thanks again Adam for another great video.
Excellent summary…. Awesome data !!
I solved my suspension problem. I painted 250 pound limit for passenger 😁😂👍
Seems abit high
@@Transphoenixbiker BY 100 pounds
Thanks for putting this out on my Birthday !!
I started to look into this last week thanks.
Great info thanks. Yes I love my Road Glide as well 2016 High Output.
Great video, I also changed my rear shocks on my 09’ Ultra. They are adjustable, not as adjustable as the ones you have though. It did make a difference in the ride well worth the money for the upgrade.
As some other posters said, it is shameful that we have to do these expensive upgrades to a already way overpriced vehicle. 2020 and we still have to put LED lighting into the directionals ourselves. SMH. I am HD thru and thru, but it is getting ridiculous how they neglect the important stuff and instead charge the hell out of you to have parts that were once chrome, painted black instead. Sad. Good info on the suspension stuff tho Adam. Thanks
The Indian challenger will be a game changer
Very well put, Wayne Siminski
@@snackpack7001 yes sir
So will the Goldwing and the BMW but I would not by any of them. I love my Harley-Davidsons plural, and all of the choices that are available. Compation makes America great.
@@jbwildhogs102966 I have 4 bikes 3 HD and a BMW
Good afternoon Adam.....always a pleasure
Coming from the sport bike world, the first upgrade for my 2015 FLTRXS was suspension. At $20k, I would have thought the suspension would have been improved over the years. I threw on Revo-A outback and AXEO upfront. While rebuilding, I also replaced my seals. Oh man! What an upgrade! No frontend dive, and long lasting comfort in the rear! I’ve got 68k miles on the bike now. Legends are the way to go!
Another great video Adam .... saving the pennies for those shocks...
Great show....thanks for the experienced important info
Totally agree with you , I upgraded my front and back suspensions with Ohlins suspension and was the best thing I have ever done to my bike 3k in suspensions and I'd do it again if I have to
Adam you have done so much for so many. Can’t take that away from ya. You should be proud. As a vet I appreciate you for all that hard work. You have your benefactors, and have to support them. That being said product and benefactor promotional videos have become the fairly routine. Indian, Legends, Ciro3d etc. Miss the old days! Keep up the good work my friend you are truly a benefactor to vets and first responders. Be blessed.
Thank you for everything you've sacrificed to ensure freedom for us all 🇺🇸 one thing I can say is that I truly believe in the products put out by my sponsors and I definitely turn down more sponsorships than I accept
I've been wanting to get some legends ever since you had yours installed and it lowered it some. I have stubby legs and I think it would help. Lol I just haven't done it yet.
Thanks for the info
Yes 15 SG revo A in the rear and axeo in the front! Best upgrade ever!
Great advice!!!
Great information Adam. Thank you for your tips
Thanks for tuning in 👊
great video. thank you, ride safe Brother
Great video I have the revo a on my 2015 ultra limited. Love them. Thanks brother 🤘🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Your still awesome man. Keep them coming bother
I've seen a few of your vids. Great job.
Adding to this vid.
I concur. Suspension is #1
Very informative video 👊🏽🙌🏽👊🏽
And you’re reppin’ the Sandoval name 🤙🏽
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Thank you I'm on my 2nd harley Davidson 2016 ultra limited low an yes the suspension needs serious upgrades
Damn love the rear lighting
Got them on two Bikes they really work great.
This is my first video with you. It is so helpful. I have a 2010 Electra, and I'm constantly putting air in the shocks, it's a real pain. I'll save my crumbs and get get a set of Revo A.
If you dont have the cash to get a legend set up you can find take off factory shocks off of a 17+ that you dont have to mess with air and they are adjustable as well...I found a set off facebook for 100 bucks just to have while I was redoing mine
Good stuff man! Love your content. Just got the 2021 rg m8 107 and I love it. Thanks for the tips bro and fyi it looks like your getting low on beer back there hahahahaa
Love this channel.
GREAT DEMO THANKS!
Great info and video brother . God Bless
Almost lost it on a 13 SG in a high speed corner with a wobble. Traded it in for a 15 SGS and hit that same corner again at the same speed. Night and day difference. I have since added the Revo-A’s and I’m very happy with the improvement. Over the winter I plan on installing Legends cartridges in the front. Personally, I can’t justify making the jump to the M8 as I pretty much have mine where I want it and with my mods I can pretty much keep up.
Great Video, Thanks
I have a 2012 Street Glide. I rode to Utah and back this past summer with decent load and did not experience any of the wobble you mentioned. I did adjust the stock shocks for the ride and had no problem riding through the Rockies and craving the curves in the national parks I visited. My load was a lot lighter than yours my ride pulled the load. I guess my point is that the stock shocks worked fine with the proper adjustment. Ride safe. Frosty sends.
I've had my 98 FLHP for 22 years. I got rid of the stock shocks long ago. Went with progressive shocks and springs. Eventually added a brace to stiffen the transmission to frame which eliminated twist when cornering. You'd think a touring bike would come with great suspension from the factory but they don't.
That’s the truth
Nice video, I hope yer aches and pains are feeling' better
Yup upgraded to a 2019 Road glide from a 2012 Fatboy mostly due to the old softail suspension or lack there of.
Thanks for the advice! Relatively new rider (year 3) trying to do longer and longer rides. Now I'm up to 500mi+ in a day so any suggestions to help with comfort and handling are MUCH appreciated. And we all know if anyone knows about LONG distance rides it's you! Checking out this suspension out this weekend AND looking forward to getting my ASR seat setup sometime in November.
Thanks Man
I just traded up to a New 2020 RG limited
Really impressed! H-D did a very good job , M8 114 does a good job all around! The New suspension Progressive he’s doing a wonderful job, soaks up the bumps really well, the traction control he’ll assist I really do like it. I will go check out the new Indian. I want to thank you brotherFor what you are doing just keep the videos coming have a great day blessed one
I'm on a 2018 RGS. But coming from Choppers n older Softails I'm pretty comfy.
I’m in my mid sixties and have legend for Suspension on my street glide.
Excellent vlog
I upgraded my 2012 Ultra Limited rear suspension with a set of Super Shoxs and I noticed a huge improvement in the rideability of the bike on the very first ride. Everybody gets a bike and wants to change the air cleaner, pipes, mufflers, and other items, I would absolutely advise against all of that until the suspension is upgraded. Best money I've spent thus far on my bike.
These guys are great
Good stuff! I’m a well travelled nutcase as well! Legend suspension YES! I’ve owned a standard as well. RoadKing etc. I have downgraded to a 2019 Sportglide. Awesome suspension play. Lighter bike. Very easy maneuvering almost anywhere. I learned how to travel lite over the years.
2010 Street Glide. I use a True-Trak stabilizing plate on motor, heavier fork oil, and Progressive adjustable gas rear suspension. No worries in the curves, no worries in the speed.
They look very cool
Other premium companies offer electronic suspension. You push a button for how many people, how many bags, then sport, cruising , etc. I have electric suspension on my super duke GT sport tourer. It is so smooth and relaxing. No bumps!!! My Super Duke GT is half the cost of a Harley and it has traction control and cornering ABS which are important with a lot of weight. It it calculating hundreds of times a second, rebound and compression for the best ride.
Cool , Thanks for the info, don't own a Harley , have ridden since the early eighty,s more like late seventies. Borrowed a 07 Electra Glide Ultra and rode it a thousand miles to Paris for the parade, had a great ride through rain and strong winds. The one thing about that bike i noticed was the suspension , it bottomed out alot . Other than that the bike did great and we really had a great time . Just one of 3497 !
Im getting a new bike and going with the Legend air ride. Ive never had air ride, but so looking forward to the feel and smoothness. I too put in long miles and can’t wait to feel the difference!
Good stuff. I’ve never noticed any issues with the frame, mounting, effecting performance. No doubt for those of us taking 500, 600+ mile a day road trips, I certainly enjoy upgraded suspension. I just don’t like the mounting of those bottles on the back above my bags; I’d prefer them out of sight. Aside from that, just give me a Stage IV Kit, V&H true duals and go ride my a** off.
Appreciate your comments and review. I can understand where you come from. Anything beats the comfort level of a humvee, lol.
Hooorah
Dude, you have explained the A & ARC so much better than the guy at Legend's UA-cam.... Sold. Just ordered my ARCs
Props on the captions man!
Glad you found them helpful!
Went with Ohlins HD-044....Huge improvement.
that is correct, I have a 2016 softail slim, first thing that i did, progressive drop in springs in the front, and got rid of the stock rear shocks and put in progressive rears with a dial in Knob,my bike went from a slo[[y dish rag to tight and right and compliant.Suspension is king, look at the guys on the tracks, suspension is hi tech and should be used.
Damn, serious miles 👍👍 Love my HDs (17 Dyna LRS and 16 SG) and got alot of $$$$$ into my bagger. Ride everyday and alot of interstate touring. At 50 I gave up touring on my HD bagger and take my ADV out touring..... Real bags, real suspension and more choices during touring.
Good video I have always upgraded my suspensions. I recently put progressive front and rear on my SG, I have been running a old KT components Softail torsion bar on my Evo Softail with some progressive wound springs up front and I think KT should put out that kit so more can have it.
Good information, i am getting ready to buy my 3rd set i am looking into air shocks or the ones you showed with a chamber i have dyna so they will fit thanks for the video it helps out hearing it from a follow rider. I to like harleys american made, have the look and sound. Happy New Year see ya on the road.
Best upgrade I have made yet! Was your seat from Ciro love it!
Can’t agree on the frame. It’s the most rigid frame Harley has ever built. However the rear suspension is sub par. Pretty sad when you buy a motorcycle that is between 20-30k and have to buy a set of shocks that are another thousand dollars. There are great options out there ie. Legend, Russ Wernimont, etc. snowmobiles have had this tech for years.
Mike Danaher best they made it not that metal still has way to much flex for me.
Great video! I will check out your others!!
How's the kit on Ashley's bike doing?curious about your opinion
The regular Legand Rev has preset rebound and they work great. I went with those, i figure less to go wrong, they have been great, i went 13 inch shocks and threw the 12 inch away on my 2013 Streetglide
Nice video. I have just changed from a lowered F6B goldwing to a 2021roadglide limited. The glide is awesome and rides better with a passenger. So yes for your extreme touring application you are correct. But the newer glide with the electronic aids makes a poor rider better and a good sport bike rider an even better rider. I love my new and first harley.
I put Revo As and Legend front springs on my Road King 2 years ago. The ride is better, but can still be stiff. The front is a huge improvement - no dive and no clunky sound. Combining these with Metzeler tires gave me the best handling and great for my multi-day trips.
Riding high, thanks for the upload
thanks for tuning in 👊
I'm 41 and spent 15yrs commercial long linning out of Alaska and suspension is a HUGE deal for me
I'm getting legends on my king soon at least the back.
I have a trike and I definitely can feel the difference in the suspension when I take off and in the curves and turns, I have air in the back, I also have a Frankenstein rear end with 60's
About to invest in some suspension, was going to convert to a chain drive, upgrade the clutch and buy a big bore but this helped steer me towards some of the stuff I should really be improving since I commute everyday on two wheels.
I did replace the factory suspension on my 2011 ultra limited. The price did factor in to what I put on though, I went with progressive mono tubes in the front and heavy duty adjustable progressives in the rear. I must say the mono tubes in the front made the biggest change as to the handling. Felt like the front was more planted to the road, is how I would describe it.
With my ‘89 Electra Glide Sport, I was highly satisfied the stiffness of the frame.
At very high speed on off motorway, but very good roads (some 80mph, which is above 60 mph - the legal limitation) it was sort of wobbly on the front end. I added wind deflectors parallel to the fork rods and this significantly improved the stability.
Later I swapped from Dunlop K291, which caused me to crash to Metzelers.
It was like a totally new bike.
As years passed by I‘m less aggressive on the road and have no wish to modify my 2011 Ultra Limited with regards to tyres or suspension.
I added a passenger handrail for better moving the bike into my garage.
I’ve seen a cool add on for the tranny, I could imagine to build in.
910 ibs is a lot more, than 715 ibs on my first dresser.
My biggest complaint about Harley Baggers....THE SUSPENSION! Great review on the Legends.
i have a 15 dyna. put pro action on the rear and raised it a inch and just installed progressive monotube on the forks. had the rear on all summer for the price to performance you cant beat it.
This is soooo true
I wanted to lower my FLHP and get alittle better ride so I tried a pair of strutmaster Air shocks to replace my factory 13" airshocks. I'm happy so far.
unfortunately my Carving days are over. I just cruise along these days.