Dave talked about weight, comfort etc in his video. He also pointed at the back paddle buttons were weird and didn't feel the best on the left controller. Appreciate the video.
I'm not seeing the controllers as gimmicks at all. No need to charge the controllers seperately given they will have significantly more battery life than the device itself. The high res display is for media consumption, which makes sense. The Ally's battery sucks for gaming, but is great for media consumption. The Legion Go has an even bigger battery. The weight will absolutely be talked about in real-world reviews. Its heavier than 2 full size Nintendo Switches, making it more of a table top device than a handheld.
It is cool, but charging inside a case is a little scary to me. Windows devices can wake from sleep sometimes when you don’t want them too. If you keep the case closed there is a definite chance you could burn out your device.
I'm sure the charging is meant for when the device is powered off. But even then, if you know windows, you know you can control actual sleep, hibernate and wake specifics. Mine don't wake unless I tell them to.
@@charlestannehill7537 yeah to the power user, it’s no biggie- however stock setup though, it might have stuff like letting the wireless adapter wake the device, etc- so it’s possible out of the box it could wake up. Most of the time on my handhelds, I prefer to sleep them instead of shut down or hibernate.
@@baldsealion that's why users need to learn about what they're operating and using. I understand people want everything simple and easy. Buts it's also made people dumb as shit. This pc gaming. Not console. And to expect it to work like that is asinine. If you're dumb enough to spend $700 on a portable handheld gaming pc in this economy and you don't understand what you're buying and what entails it, you deserve for the apu to burn out. Because people are creatures of habit, and I'm sure they live the rest of their lives the same way on autopilot. You are buying high end tech. Not a 90's Gameboy. Tbh, in this video, you just sounded like a hater. I'm a steam deck owner myself. Bought the 512gb and now I'm rocking 3tb. Purple shell. Upgraded everything. Deckhd screen on the way. Waiting for fsr3. But even I'm excited about this device. We all knew the ally was shit. Look at the quality of their laptops. But Lenovo deserves respect. At least give the thing a fair try. All you have to do is run holoiso and you've got the unofficial steamos. This thing is going to be wild. Don't be like soyboy wulffden. Be open minded.
@@enricod.7198I think it will support VRR/Adaptive sync, since AMD F-sync doesn't require extra hardware in the monitor and is based on DP 1.2, This device itself is basically all AMD technology. So there's a high chance it's a VRR screen/panel. But if Lenovo disabled it, probably because VRR would eat more power than locked hz. For me it isn't a big deal, i have RoG Ally and play 60fps all the time when battery mode, extra hz for handheld is just a nice to have feature. I also have a portable 16" gaming monitor so really not a big deal.
I actually want this device because it can become a “tablet”. I wouldn’t really mind not having the controllers as I would use my XBOX controllers and my dock that has a mouse/keyboard. But it would be nice to be able to carry about a power house in a small package. I was debating on getting the OneXPlayer 2 because of that but it’s too expensive. That this price, it’s doable.
I totaly agree with you. I wanted to order a OneXPlayer 2 pro but after i saw the legion Go and compare price and overal for me the legion Go is better. So i pre-order the legion Go.
Yeah this one is for me 100%. Would love to get one from china like ayaneo kun, win gpd etc... But i dont have them in europe so shipping + vac would be hella expensive and I am scared for longer support and warranty. If this thing has better performance (tdp is still unclear to me) its a no brainer for me. Dont care about vrr, but i will wait for review 100%
I bought a second hand aya neo on eBay and i messaged aya neo cause it was thermal throttling there was a defective fan and they sent me a new fan even tho I wasn’t the original owner had to fix it myself but was simple enough basically what im saying is aya neo warranty and support is top notch they can install it for you but you have to wait for shipping so I opted to do it myself
Sad that these big companies are going to give Ayaneo/OneX/Win/ etc a run on thier money. Comp is great but the lil guys, who are normally the forefathers lose out to the Big Tech.
@@ytmaxxammo8591Hoping I've just misinterpreted what you mean, but you're not really saying competition in the handheld PC market is a bad thing are you?
I like the detachable controls, because if it gets damaged from prolonged use you can easily swap them. Will EAFC work on this device properly as I mostly play FUT champs and division rivals?
Yeah, I feel like the controller replacements might be a little pricey - but at least you won’t have to take it apart to replace. My concern is possible damage to the display contacts moreso than the controllers themselves
i love the fact that this beast of a mobile processor is the fastest out there, maybe not on 48Watts but still, this screen is integer native to 800P. therefore looks great, vs. any 1080-1200P native screen, therefore a lot of tweaks from the deck apply. parred with high end CPU is kinda a no brainer to me ;)
It still better to go from 1600p to 800p since this is 1/4 of the number of pixels , thus combine 4 pixels in 1600p to one pixel to 800p . This is better than going from 1080p to 720p. It's the same 4k to 1080p or 1440p to 720p matches evenly. VRR is not as needed on a portrait screen since our eyes detect screen tearing across the screen more than vertically. I turn off v-sync on the Deck. Vrr is just a more improved v-sync without the lag or double frames.
This isn’t entirely true. Some games on the Steam Deck in windows(not SteamOS really) have noticeable tearing with vsync turned off on certain games. It just depends. Vsync will work fine, at some performance cost. Hopefully there will be options to drop refresh rate down though in the future.
@@baldsealionsteam deck was designed for steamos with amd in mind. Not windows. But valve was nice enough to release the drivers. I'm sure he's referring to steamos.
@@charlestannehill7537 yeah, SteamOS has some magic going on to not need vsync- but this issue(screen tearing if vsync is off) would be apparent with any portrait display in windows.
@@baldsealionv sync is on through driver level by default on steam os . There was no possible way to disable it from the driver until they updated it to give the option of allow tearing. VRR is essential for these devices, and it is such a shame that the legion go doesn’t have it like the rog ally
Yeah you’re right good thinking - this might be the solution here, for some reason my mind was stuck on thinking of a straight usb-c cable. The kickstand is really adjustable so you can get a good angle with a 90 degree.
@@baldsealion as soon as I saw ppl complaining, that adapter came into mind. We will only be able to tell once WE have it. But out of all the devices. I think this will be the one for this year. It offers the most flexibility. Games wise and software wise. I think this thing is gonna be awesome for GAMERS.
I thought this would bust myths about the Legion Go. Only to find it also speculates about it. Having a problem with Z1 processor extreme? Do you have anything better in mind?
I feel like this is unfairly negative overall. The reason for the high res screen is because higher quality displays are only available at higher resolutions in general per Lenovo which makes sense. Notice the color accuracy is much better than the Deck and it can get 25% brighter... plus the fact that it's 1600p means it will scale perfectly when running at 800p.
Sorry you feel that way. I’ll admit I did spend more time pointing out things that could be potential issues with the device, but there are definitely good things about the device that I’m excited for. It wasn’t meant to be positive or negative, as there are pros and cons. Almost every video covers the screen and controls, which I didn’t discuss in detail here. I was looking for the things that were mostly “not said”
Yeah I mention VRR in myths busted section, but good point about the d-pad. Dave2D mentions it’s not great in his video, especially for fighting games. As far as loud fans, there is just one fan and one of the reviews said it’s pretty quiet even at max tdp, but of course people said the same thing about the Ally with their initial impressions.
Written reviews articles complained about the loud fan and only one youtuber said that it was silent I worry about the lack of vrr I hate the micro stutters I want the device to play quietly in bed I hope they fix the dpad and fan curve
@@somerandomhuman8405 I feel much like the Ally - this is very close to final production, so I don’t know how much they are going to improve the d-pad, which is unfortunate. I don’t suspect they will be replacing any major components at this point, seeing as it will be available in October.
@@somerandomhuman8405the lack of vrr is so 2012 gaming lmao I can't even look at a game that has all those stutters or tearing or shitty vsync because the refresh rate is fixed. It's a relatively old technology, open standard, should be everywhere.
I hate touch screen on big handheld and window doesn't help negating the need of touch screen when comparing to the superior steamOS. But this looks better than ROG ally in many ways for me, I'll play mostly indie games on it, and I think many JRPG will be able to run with Z1 extreme fine at 1080p and probably 2K resolutions. And more importantly it's the same price as ROG ally, it's a no brainer if you want window device to do whatever you want to, even just watching media or doing minor works, it's a better choice than Ally.
VRR is les of an issue with a 144hz display. I have a 3x32" monitors all with Freesync 2 support and I honestly have to say I forget when I turn it off for benchmarking, to turn it back on after as since I got a 144hz monitor back in 2013 and the Acer Predator I got after, neither of which had any support for most if not all the time I used it (the predator eventualy did when nvidia gave in and added support), I never really noticed tearing. I obviously got some, but as I was not analysing every frame, I have not noticed. !44hz on the other hand as a main feature as well as a larger screen, for me at least, is a big deal as it reduces eye strain, and I will take that over not seeing the odd tear on devices that will pretty much be playing games with locked frame rates for the most part. Can't say I have seen tearing on my deck when I use either 30fps or 60fps lock
I think it looks like a decent device (but it’s too big for me), a bit gimmicky with the vertical mouse and as you say, if you have/need room for the vert mouse then you’d just use a proper gaming mouse. I wonder if there is a market for a small compact WASD controller (with the necessary extra keys) for small table gaming setups.
There's a WASD keyboard on the market mostly for FPS gamers, some has additional macro buttons, extra mouse wheels etc. Quite cheap too, cheapest like $10. Or you can go tenkeyless (TKL) keyboard, took up 60~70% regular keyboard size.
Oh, if you have steam you can remap any controller to act like using a keyboard and mouse, some already built in profile for the game, or download from other (community).
What I like about the vertical mouse setup (aside from it being built in and not an extra accessory to remember to bring with you and possibly being more ergonomic since you aren't twisting your arm like a flat mouse) is that you pair it with the left controller and get that hybrid experience of using a thumbstick for movement and mappable controller buttons instead of a keyboard, but with the aiming precision of a mouse.
@@Zandercode my only concern with that is you possibly don’t have a dpi switcher and it looks like it’s meant for precision aiming - so quick turning might be difficult. Might have to completely change your playing style
I don’t know if anyone has commented on that in their times demoing it. I personally haven’t seen the device, I am going off of what I have read, discussed and watched of people that have had hands on experience. That is a great point though, the Steam Deck and Ally both have really good audio.
Most of their laptops gaming Audio is good enough, above average. Comes with Dolby and or nahimic. Most of the time you will use a Bluetooth headset / TWS when on the go, why go loud in public?
Holy pogo pins! Wait a tick hear me out... My hope is for rapid growth of 3rd party / modding community options. For example maybe we'll see lighter replacement controllers that have dual touch pads with no internal batteries, it powers on the pogos. The detachment can be purely magnetic or locks on a sliding rail. Maybe somebody creates a clam shell mount with the controller and keyboard built in turning it into a GPD Win Micro! This keyboard base could have a built-in 4 in 1 doc to add more USB ports, HDMI, Ethernet and SSD support. Maybe we get swappable battery packs. The options are endless as long as we focus on that 1.41lb base that has the big ass QHD 8.8" screen as the star of the show! Otherwise even if you are not a fan of those stock joycons we can always fallback on xbox or Dualshock gamepads. Oh how about an arcade bar top mount and go all out retro with AMD's integer scaling? There's huge potential here, especially if they sell a base Z1 for $549 (256GB) - $599 soon after!
Regarding no VRR: Any division of the refresh rate should (in theory) feel very smooth. So if it’s 144hz, 72fps and 48fps should feel awesome. Personally on handheld devices I cap the FPS below 60 for battery life, so in this case, I would be aiming for a stable 48fps in my games. On retro titles where the animations are inherently low FPS, you could even cap it at 36fps and retain parody with the refresh rate.
I'd love to go for 40FPS but it seems like you can only choose 60 or 144Hz. A 120Hz option would've been the best because you can use it with 30, 40 and 60FPS. And especially with a handheld, theres a big difference in power draw and/or turned down settings needed between hitting 40 and 48FPS and the only other alternative would be 36FPS 144Hz only really makes sense if it also has VRR
lenovo were a bit lazy with the screen, windows does a have a key shortcut to orientate the screen which they could have put a short cut into the GO for the portrait problem, the screen will be a MASSIVE drain on battery along with the cpu and windows itself lol
To each their own I personally love my 512 gb steamdeck because of all the settings and control I have. Not a fan of detachable controllers I already own a switch feels gimmicky I hate windows so a windows device just is a no go for me that’s why I didn’t buy the rog ally. I bought my steamdeck with the 800 dollar price tag and I have not regretted it I even ordered the deckhd so I’m going to upgrade my screen and while I’m at it the hard drive. But again I think it just breaks down to what makes you happy so happy gaming!
@@smidlee7747vrr is MANDATORY on devices with variable and not strady performance, especially handhelds. Adaptive sync it's an open standard, it should be easy to get the same display to have vrr.
Once you see the benefits of VRR you can't go back. What a shame that Lenovo changed their marketing at the last min. Obviously that leak was to build up hype which didn't fully do and now people have to wake til Oct will only give time for people to change their mind. Bigger screen at the sacrifice of gaming features.
@@volcalstone Nonsense. I have no problem connecting my gaming laptop which has VRR to a TV that doesn't support it. In order to dock the Ally without XG Mobile you won't have VRR.
Someone made an excellent point about the weight to use a reference. This thing is more comparable to the OneXPlayer line which has a smaller 8.4" screen with detachable controllers. They claim the OneXPlayer weighs more than the Lenovo Legion Go (because of the battery weight and metal) and you can check out those reviews for what is too heavy. Many people dig the OnePlayer Pro /2 and maybe this lighter all plastic Go is a non issue.
I have the one x player 2 and ill admit that the size and weight caught of guard initially. after about 5 days I got so use to it that it doesnt bother me at all and it feels comfortable. I think first impressions alot of reviewers will ding the weight of this device but the fact that not as wide as the one x and weights less I think the people who own this will get use to the size and weight quickly.
@@AnotherRichEXP you were that guy, 🤣 who made the point. 👍I am leaning towards the Go at this rate. My only concern is when Valve is revealing their new hardware as leaks show something is coming. I'd feel better at least knowing what it is, cause even if its standalone VR I might still want it. The other little thing is the GPD Win Mini. An improved beta unit is in the works for UA-cam testers to review. This is obviously going in the ultra compact format direction it will become very tempting if they can solve the heat and fan noise problem. I love the keyboard clamshell design. Still leaning towards bestbuy as I have $100 points which will expire in early November. It sucks that the 1TB might not be an option this year Microcenter only lists the 512GB, so that 1TB Go bestbuy link could be a mere placeholder. 😭
@tomoprime217 It could be that the 1tb is only exclusive to bestbuy but I plan on changing mine to 2tb anyway. While I really like these handheld from China the horror stories I read on the discord next device has to be something I can just drive and take back. One x player has a broken rb button and SD card slot and it cost $100+ to send it back and 3 week return rate. Microcenter is good because they just give you a new one on the spot
@@AnotherRichEXP I hear yah. I just love the principle of getting a 1TB for $50 more and not having to open up and sell the old drive. Makes it easy to exchange too. A 2TB would be the way to go especially if it had 32GB of ram. Otherwise I plan to keep most of my games on my laptop and desktop. I figured I can expand the 1TB with a microSD. Definitely will consider upgrading if that NVME 2242 standard gets cheaper. 👍
Only thing holding me back is the ram. Why tf didn’t Asus or Lenovo have a 32GB option? Most of us nerds would pay an extra $100. As stated it’s less of an issue with a page file on a fast gen 4 drive, but still.
Ya we will have to see they can always add it in the future or for the final product Also I believe the processing power and graphics power should be stronger then the ally. I have the ally right now and will be returning it to get the lenovo because I think all around it’s more powerful and the detachable controllers are just the perfect idea to me.
@andynajar99 why do you think its more powerful? Same chip, a little les tdp than the ally. So most likely it will run similar just maybe a sharper image
Lmao. Wtf are you talking about. Tearing is not the issue, you won't hit 60 or let alone 144fps constantly to need vsync to avoid tearing. The issue is stuttering under the refresh rate, and you will get plenty of thos in low-performance scenarios like handhelds. Adaptive sync/vrr is an open standard. In 2023 there should be ZERO screens without it. It makes no sense at all to have a fixed refresh monitor on a device like this, it's stupid and a bad thing. I don't want to see the same frame 2-3 times because that fucking vrr is not there and I can't hit 60fps.
No vrr really sucks . But I do like the fact it has 1tb model. If ROG ally had 1tb model, I would have gotten that instead. I don’t want to open up the Pc handheld I’m really not a Pc gamer. My purpose is to play Xbox games on the go
onlything ive really gotten from this is that there will ALWAYS bein something on the verge of being dead making it useless screen dead controllers charged controllers dead screens charged and even worse when one controller dies faster then the other when the batteries start degrading.
Its too big and weights too much imo if going this route make it even bigger laptop without a keyboard then u got good cooling/big battery/put it on desk but biggest issue for me is i want console in a device like this so windows is pretty much a no go.
I was really tempted but as soon i eared: no vrr….this device is no good for me…vrr should be a must from now on. Total game changer and i expected to be on the new upcoming steam
This was a weird "myths busted" video by someone that hasn't touched the unit. Things like "this is no good except for the things it is good for" (more concise paraphrase etc) is strange. Yes, can't play elden ring at 144, but hades you can. Given the state of the current handheld market and what is available, the reality (assuming you want a BIG screen portable device vs pocketable etc) is this: 1) it lacks VRR (vs ally) and 32gb ram (vs many). Otherwise, if you want a big screen device, this meets or beats all other options (including, except for ally, PRICE and LOCAL returns/exchanges (for many) etc, which are HUGE selling points). Put up your video and thoughts but don't call it myths busted when you busted no myths.
Thanks for the criticism. No device is perfect and I’m still looking forward to learning more about this device and having it in my hands. Not trying to look at it from a negative or positive perspective, just opinions based on the facts already presented and some review of some items that were shown but not actually discussed in the accredited videos. There are two myths that were discussed and from what I can tell are busted at this point.
For me, I'm not crazy about performance, i want ergonomics so i can play for long periods of time and a good software experience (steam os is magnificent and has tonnes of community support/plugins). Steam deck is already chunky can't imagine holding something 30% heavier and less ergonomic for very long. Also for high end games i just use game streaming or moonlight.
I don't think black bar is a problem, 16:10 is the feature to maximize screen, bezelless. If the game not support it but it is still playable right, not a legion go fault. Older game or using emulator build 4:3 so not a big deal it just the game.
It’s not really a “problem” but just a downside. You lose a little bit of screen, but there is a lot to give. It just looks a little weird as it shifts the content downward, so your bezel on top looks thicker than the bottom. It’s a small gripe, but an unfortunate side effect of 16:10
But when a game supports 16:10, it gives you an extra view, so it's a feature rather than a downside, why some people seeing 16:10 as a "Downside" I don't know how they look like that. RoG ally is 16:9 but still has a large black bar top and bottom that you can't fix it, yup that's a "not bezel-less screen". So when you are on 16:10 but the game only supports 16:9, it looks like RoG ally virtually. Big bezels. The same thing except RoG ally has permanent black bar you can't fix it via software or patch.
Black Bar on the 16:10 can be fixed via GPU driver / control panel or via display itself (on external monitor/TV mostly) , just turn on "maximize" or "fit the screen" (scaling) option I think. It's stretched out or cropped to fit 16:10, a dirty fix.
@@FaridRudiansyah yeah then things in game appear “skinnier” I do this with lossless scaling on the steam deck in Windows - for the PS Remote Play, as it only allows 720p or 1080p and the deck is native 800p
@@baldsealion either black bar, skinner, Stretched out, cropped or properly patched games. You have options, work around to fix/hack/solve it. But not with 16:9 that has a "big built-in black bar". I have a 16:10 portable screen, 16:9 bezel-less monitor, Legion laptop (16:10) and RoG ally, so big bezels on the RoG ally really annoyed me why not go 16:10 or use bigger screen that bezel-less, probably just wider a bit (probably as wide as steamdeck) or same screen size but narrow a bit, of course less grip.
I wanted to...want to buy this. But after it was fully revealed, the parts looked a little cheap, and 8 inches on a handheld is simply mammoth. I ended up getting a OneXFly instead, because it's light, people say it's comfortable even with big hands, and 7" 120hz seems like a very reasonable screen. You can also get a 32GB RAM version, which I opted for.
The switch wasn't as good as it is now on launch day, and there was and still are problems with the switch joy-cons, just like steam deck, just like rog ally.
Is there anything you like? Most of your sentences contain a "but", "however", etc. The product design always happens in a real world with real constraints. What you may like it may stays in yout imagination.
Well was trying to be reasonable on all things and consider the different possibilities. Left out a lot of personal opinion so people could judge for themselves and discuss here. This is what I like about it personally: 1. Beautiful screen with QHD 2. A Trackpad! 3. Tablet option possibly(I would like if I could replace my surface go with this- need to find a good size BT keyboard with a trackpad that maybe could be put in a cover) 4. Possibly goes down to lower tdp than the Ally(although it is the same Z1E chip so we will see what kind of real world performance difference there is) 5. Can’t really complain about faster RAM than the Ally 6. The bigger battery is a plus but is likely a compensation for the larger screen+charging controllers so we may not see better battery life than the Ally. 7. More back buttons than the Ally- although the placement seems odd. I think that’s about it.
It can be - but the XG Mobile connector is proprietary tech by ASUS, so their XG mobile eGPUs won’t be compatible. However any thunderbolt 4 eGPU setups should work.
Lenovo doesn't have a product/technology like RoG XG Mobile right now, basically its a Mobile GPU that is built outside of a laptop gaming, so you can plug externally to any other RoG compatible devices and more portable than a standard eGPU. Lenovo GO use USB4 (like TB3 protocol), so could use any eGPU and you can build yourself way cheaper than XG Mobile but bigger, heavier and took more space too. But oculink is also an "open protocol" that is 50% faster than ThunderBolt 3/4, the first handheld device that uses this is from GPD. In short eGPU is a way to upgrade gaming performance especially when docked but needs a special port.
Ally having VRR and XGM capability are killer features. XGM is just a clean setup and is small in size when you think about it. Having an eGPU might be more cost effective but it won't be as simple as an XGM. Go doesn't have Oculink so that might be a deal breaker for some. GPD needs to make a device like this asap imo.
I'm going to be honest I don't like the thing it's heavy as hell bulky clunky I'm not going to be taking that out the house I mean that the whole point of it right "handheld" I couldn't even do it with my steam deck then the Asus RoG Ally came out and it was a game changer it's light as hell and it works great with my AAA games on the go... It's just a comfortable device all round 700$ was the sweet spot on purchasing I'm good I'll pass on that Legion G thanks on the video man 👍💯✌️
I'd love for Lenovo to send one my way but they haven't offered. Yep I'm just an average consumer with thoughts and opinions based on collection of facts. - This is kind of an older video though, have several others with newer info.
I completely disagree with the steam deck having the most comfortable ergonomics. I have owned most of these handheld pcs and the one that is the most comfortable to hold is the Ayaneo 2. As far as the screen resolution, it is not a negative and will never be a negative to have a better resolution on the screen. You'd be surprised at the amount of games that are able to achieve 120 fps. Also game streaming is a thing and it also takes advantage of the higher refresh rate screen and resolution. I think Lenovo has yet to let the people that actually review these consoles touch them yet. So there is still a lot of information that is missing!
The comparison was between the multiple product reviews out there for the Legion Go and some items that were addressed in them, but not discussed in detail(such as portrait display). Were you thinking of it being a comparison against a particular handheld? I do mention some features or missing features based on the steam deck and the ROG ally.
I'll stick to saving up for a 512GB steam deck thank you this seems like an interesting handheld PC I'll be keeping an eye on it however I feel like the battery will drain faster having that higher resolution screen among other things we don't know yet about this PC we'll see and the micro SD card slot for the Ally is a deal breaker for me it shouldn't have been so close to the exhaust vents bricking SD cards redesign it in a different spot then I'll reconsider getting an Ally
The problem is windows and games, i have green screen video problem on FFX, the infamous microsoft vcredist on others, you need the right one dll (hello Mad Max). Older games don’t like high res screen, from small text to strech screen because it’s 4/3 native, some can only be played with mouse and keyboard.
The only real problem with this device is windows... The rest is just being picky. I love my Steam Deck and i think that if it comes to support, price/performance ratio its just unbeatable. But... The Lenovo products are very reliable. Had 3 Lenovo Laptops and they all been fantastic. This machine is something else... It already beat the Rog Ally. No questions there... If Lenovo gonna support this handheld as Valve does the SD this will be the best handheld of 2023.
@@xxkingh4ckxx281 Biased ? Because i have a different opinion than you ? 🤣 From my perspective the Steam Deck is way better... Not only its more stable but has much less hardware issues. If you dont believe me go on the internet and check it out yourself. Sheer power does not make a product better... Reliability and ease of use does. I can play every game i want on the Deck at 30fps with High settings for 450€. The Ally can do that at 45-55fps... For 799€... Only a complete idiot gonna pay nearly the double for 15-20fps...
Lenovo Legion Space is Horrible! I absolutely dislike Lenovo Bios as well. Terrible Terrible Bios. Legion is just the worst out of all the handheld companies. SMH then no VRR. I get it but damn … Lenovo With all their big dog tech companies crap, can’t get a Landscape Display!?!? SMH cmon… 700$ is going back into my back account if Legion space is not better and seriously better by the end of my return period. Facts.
Sorry you see it as a hate video. I actually skipped the Ally and so glad I did. The Go has some definite promise to it. Next video I'll try to sound more "positive".
so many spoilt brats on the comments. If its charging you 1k plus, then by all means i agree with u. But at that price and u expect everything to be 🔥, u r better off joining the woke community.
@@ExtremalMetal Woke comes straight out of the church which is why it's come out of the West. The church of Woke takes "we are all equal in Christ" and remove the Christ part. A 400 ib ugly woman may be equal to a beautiful hot woman in Christ but she still not equal in beauty. Woman may be equal to a man in Christ but women are not equal in raw strength as a man ,etc.
I'm looking for the same experience, I play mostly shooters ( apex, valorant) but I like playing RPGs sometimes as well on the go. If this device can run shooters at 120 hz and FPS am all in 😅
Dave talked about weight, comfort etc in his video. He also pointed at the back paddle buttons were weird and didn't feel the best on the left controller. Appreciate the video.
Why is it always about "best" anyway... Just gimme decent sh%t
I'm not seeing the controllers as gimmicks at all. No need to charge the controllers seperately given they will have significantly more battery life than the device itself. The high res display is for media consumption, which makes sense. The Ally's battery sucks for gaming, but is great for media consumption. The Legion Go has an even bigger battery. The weight will absolutely be talked about in real-world reviews. Its heavier than 2 full size Nintendo Switches, making it more of a table top device than a handheld.
Thanks for your input!
It also comes with a Hard Case with integrated charging ports whereas ASUS is charging $40 for a god awful softcase. I returned it immediately.
It is cool, but charging inside a case is a little scary to me. Windows devices can wake from sleep sometimes when you don’t want them too. If you keep the case closed there is a definite chance you could burn out your device.
I'm sure the charging is meant for when the device is powered off. But even then, if you know windows, you know you can control actual sleep, hibernate and wake specifics. Mine don't wake unless I tell them to.
@@charlestannehill7537 yeah to the power user, it’s no biggie- however stock setup though, it might have stuff like letting the wireless adapter wake the device, etc- so it’s possible out of the box it could wake up. Most of the time on my handhelds, I prefer to sleep them instead of shut down or hibernate.
@@baldsealion that's why users need to learn about what they're operating and using. I understand people want everything simple and easy. Buts it's also made people dumb as shit. This pc gaming. Not console. And to expect it to work like that is asinine. If you're dumb enough to spend $700 on a portable handheld gaming pc in this economy and you don't understand what you're buying and what entails it, you deserve for the apu to burn out. Because people are creatures of habit, and I'm sure they live the rest of their lives the same way on autopilot. You are buying high end tech. Not a 90's Gameboy.
Tbh, in this video, you just sounded like a hater. I'm a steam deck owner myself. Bought the 512gb and now I'm rocking 3tb. Purple shell. Upgraded everything. Deckhd screen on the way. Waiting for fsr3. But even I'm excited about this device. We all knew the ally was shit. Look at the quality of their laptops. But Lenovo deserves respect. At least give the thing a fair try. All you have to do is run holoiso and you've got the unofficial steamos. This thing is going to be wild. Don't be like soyboy wulffden. Be open minded.
Stop making me so excited for the Legion Go
That thing looks awesome I will definitely get one…on launch
I would, but the lack of vrr is completely a deal breaker in 2023.
@@enricod.7198 jajaja good one lol
@@enricod.7198I think it will support VRR/Adaptive sync, since AMD F-sync doesn't require extra hardware in the monitor and is based on DP 1.2, This device itself is basically all AMD technology.
So there's a high chance it's a VRR screen/panel. But if Lenovo disabled it, probably because VRR would eat more power than locked hz.
For me it isn't a big deal, i have RoG Ally and play 60fps all the time when battery mode, extra hz for handheld is just a nice to have feature. I also have a portable 16" gaming monitor so really not a big deal.
Curious about the battery life
I actually want this device because it can become a “tablet”. I wouldn’t really mind not having the controllers as I would use my XBOX controllers and my dock that has a mouse/keyboard. But it would be nice to be able to carry about a power house in a small package. I was debating on getting the OneXPlayer 2 because of that but it’s too expensive. That this price, it’s doable.
I totaly agree with you. I wanted to order a OneXPlayer 2 pro but after i saw the legion Go and compare price and overal for me the legion Go is better. So i pre-order the legion Go.
Yeah this one is for me 100%. Would love to get one from china like ayaneo kun, win gpd etc... But i dont have them in europe so shipping + vac would be hella expensive and I am scared for longer support and warranty. If this thing has better performance (tdp is still unclear to me) its a no brainer for me. Dont care about vrr, but i will wait for review 100%
I bought a second hand aya neo on eBay and i messaged aya neo cause it was thermal throttling there was a defective fan and they sent me a new fan even tho I wasn’t the original owner had to fix it myself but was simple enough basically what im saying is aya neo warranty and support is top notch they can install it for you but you have to wait for shipping so I opted to do it myself
Sad that these big companies are going to give Ayaneo/OneX/Win/ etc a run on thier money.
Comp is great but the lil guys, who are normally the forefathers lose out to the Big Tech.
@@ytmaxxammo8591Hoping I've just misinterpreted what you mean, but you're not really saying competition in the handheld PC market is a bad thing are you?
I like the detachable controls, because if it gets damaged from prolonged use you can easily swap them. Will EAFC work on this device properly as I mostly play FUT champs and division rivals?
Yes its a pc, why would you be considered it not working? I played fut div on my rog ally and it works fine.
Yeah, I feel like the controller replacements might be a little pricey - but at least you won’t have to take it apart to replace. My concern is possible damage to the display contacts moreso than the controllers themselves
i love the fact that this beast of a mobile processor is the fastest out there, maybe not on 48Watts but still, this screen is integer native to 800P. therefore looks great, vs. any 1080-1200P native screen, therefore a lot of tweaks from the deck apply. parred with high end CPU is kinda a no brainer to me ;)
It still better to go from 1600p to 800p since this is 1/4 of the number of pixels , thus combine 4 pixels in 1600p to one pixel to 800p . This is better than going from 1080p to 720p. It's the same 4k to 1080p or 1440p to 720p matches evenly.
VRR is not as needed on a portrait screen since our eyes detect screen tearing across the screen more than vertically. I turn off v-sync on the Deck. Vrr is just a more improved v-sync without the lag or double frames.
This isn’t entirely true. Some games on the Steam Deck in windows(not SteamOS really) have noticeable tearing with vsync turned off on certain games. It just depends. Vsync will work fine, at some performance cost. Hopefully there will be options to drop refresh rate down though in the future.
@@baldsealionsteam deck was designed for steamos with amd in mind. Not windows. But valve was nice enough to release the drivers. I'm sure he's referring to steamos.
@@charlestannehill7537 yeah, SteamOS has some magic going on to not need vsync- but this issue(screen tearing if vsync is off) would be apparent with any portrait display in windows.
@@baldsealionv sync is on through driver level by default on steam os . There was no possible way to disable it from the driver until they updated it to give the option of allow tearing. VRR is essential for these devices, and it is such a shame that the legion go doesn’t have it like the rog ally
You can buy a L shape adapter for the bottom if you have issues with a wire
Yeah you’re right good thinking - this might be the solution here, for some reason my mind was stuck on thinking of a straight usb-c cable. The kickstand is really adjustable so you can get a good angle with a 90 degree.
@@baldsealion as soon as I saw ppl complaining, that adapter came into mind. We will only be able to tell once WE have it. But out of all the devices. I think this will be the one for this year. It offers the most flexibility. Games wise and software wise. I think this thing is gonna be awesome for GAMERS.
I thought this would bust myths about the Legion Go. Only to find it also speculates about it. Having a problem with Z1 processor extreme? Do you have anything better in mind?
I feel like this is unfairly negative overall. The reason for the high res screen is because higher quality displays are only available at higher resolutions in general per Lenovo which makes sense. Notice the color accuracy is much better than the Deck and it can get 25% brighter... plus the fact that it's 1600p means it will scale perfectly when running at 800p.
Sorry you feel that way. I’ll admit I did spend more time pointing out things that could be potential issues with the device, but there are definitely good things about the device that I’m excited for. It wasn’t meant to be positive or negative, as there are pros and cons. Almost every video covers the screen and controls, which I didn’t discuss in detail here. I was looking for the things that were mostly “not said”
I'm sticking with Rog Ally. This is too damn big for me.
There is nothing wrong with enjoying what you have and not what you don't have.
My biggest disappointments are No Vrr loud dpad and loud fans 😢
Yeah I mention VRR in myths busted section, but good point about the d-pad. Dave2D mentions it’s not great in his video, especially for fighting games. As far as loud fans, there is just one fan and one of the reviews said it’s pretty quiet even at max tdp, but of course people said the same thing about the Ally with their initial impressions.
Written reviews articles complained about the loud fan and only one youtuber said that it was silent
I worry about the lack of vrr I hate the micro stutters
I want the device to play quietly in bed I hope they fix the dpad and fan curve
@@somerandomhuman8405 I feel much like the Ally - this is very close to final production, so I don’t know how much they are going to improve the d-pad, which is unfortunate. I don’t suspect they will be replacing any major components at this point, seeing as it will be available in October.
@@somerandomhuman8405the lack of vrr is so 2012 gaming lmao I can't even look at a game that has all those stutters or tearing or shitty vsync because the refresh rate is fixed. It's a relatively old technology, open standard, should be everywhere.
Is the lack of VRR confirmed?
It´s astonishing to see people trying to shit on the legion go without ever having layed finger on one.
This is the one to get , legion products are always well made and thought out
Nice got in here first. Great video thanks!
the 144hz hi res screen Is CLEARLY for when using EGPU
this handheld is HUGE
I hate touch screen on big handheld and window doesn't help negating the need of touch screen when comparing to the superior steamOS.
But this looks better than ROG ally in many ways for me, I'll play mostly indie games on it, and I think many JRPG will be able to run with Z1 extreme fine at 1080p and probably 2K resolutions.
And more importantly it's the same price as ROG ally, it's a no brainer if you want window device to do whatever you want to, even just watching media or doing minor works, it's a better choice than Ally.
True
The Steam Deck has the best ergonomics rn, but Steam Deck ergonomics could still be way better
Truth
VRR is les of an issue with a 144hz display. I have a 3x32" monitors all with Freesync 2 support and I honestly have to say I forget when I turn it off for benchmarking, to turn it back on after as since I got a 144hz monitor back in 2013 and the Acer Predator I got after, neither of which had any support for most if not all the time I used it (the predator eventualy did when nvidia gave in and added support), I never really noticed tearing. I obviously got some, but as I was not analysing every frame, I have not noticed. !44hz on the other hand as a main feature as well as a larger screen, for me at least, is a big deal as it reduces eye strain, and I will take that over not seeing the odd tear on devices that will pretty much be playing games with locked frame rates for the most part. Can't say I have seen tearing on my deck when I use either 30fps or 60fps lock
I think it looks like a decent device (but it’s too big for me), a bit gimmicky with the vertical mouse and as you say, if you have/need room for the vert mouse then you’d just use a proper gaming mouse. I wonder if there is a market for a small compact WASD controller (with the necessary extra keys) for small table gaming setups.
There's a WASD keyboard on the market mostly for FPS gamers, some has additional macro buttons, extra mouse wheels etc. Quite cheap too, cheapest like $10. Or you can go tenkeyless (TKL) keyboard, took up 60~70% regular keyboard size.
Oh, if you have steam you can remap any controller to act like using a keyboard and mouse, some already built in profile for the game, or download from other (community).
@@FaridRudiansyahneed something portable/wireless. I already have a Tartarus controller for desktop gaming, but it’s big bulky and corded.
What I like about the vertical mouse setup (aside from it being built in and not an extra accessory to remember to bring with you and possibly being more ergonomic since you aren't twisting your arm like a flat mouse) is that you pair it with the left controller and get that hybrid experience of using a thumbstick for movement and mappable controller buttons instead of a keyboard, but with the aiming precision of a mouse.
@@Zandercode my only concern with that is you possibly don’t have a dpi switcher and it looks like it’s meant for precision aiming - so quick turning might be difficult. Might have to completely change your playing style
I'm still in the wait and see phase atm. It kinda doo look promising tho.
It's Beautiful 😮😮😮❤❤❤
I never knew that you had a UA-cam channel lol. I’m in the subreddit of handheld pc gaming lol.
Interesting summary, you didn’t speak about the audio quality. Generally, Lenovo isn’t the best performer in this category ! Thanks !
I don’t know if anyone has commented on that in their times demoing it. I personally haven’t seen the device, I am going off of what I have read, discussed and watched of people that have had hands on experience. That is a great point though, the Steam Deck and Ally both have really good audio.
Most of their laptops gaming Audio is good enough, above average. Comes with Dolby and or nahimic. Most of the time you will use a Bluetooth headset / TWS when on the go, why go loud in public?
I wonder how much lag that integer scaling ads
Holy pogo pins! Wait a tick hear me out... My hope is for rapid growth of 3rd party / modding community options. For example maybe we'll see lighter replacement controllers that have dual touch pads with no internal batteries, it powers on the pogos. The detachment can be purely magnetic or locks on a sliding rail. Maybe somebody creates a clam shell mount with the controller and keyboard built in turning it into a GPD Win Micro! This keyboard base could have a built-in 4 in 1 doc to add more USB ports, HDMI, Ethernet and SSD support. Maybe we get swappable battery packs. The options are endless as long as we focus on that 1.41lb base that has the big ass QHD 8.8" screen as the star of the show! Otherwise even if you are not a fan of those stock joycons we can always fallback on xbox or Dualshock gamepads. Oh how about an arcade bar top mount and go all out retro with AMD's integer scaling? There's huge potential here, especially if they sell a base Z1 for $549 (256GB) - $599 soon after!
Regarding no VRR: Any division of the refresh rate should (in theory) feel very smooth. So if it’s 144hz, 72fps and 48fps should feel awesome. Personally on handheld devices I cap the FPS below 60 for battery life, so in this case, I would be aiming for a stable 48fps in my games. On retro titles where the animations are inherently low FPS, you could even cap it at 36fps and retain parody with the refresh rate.
I'd love to go for 40FPS but it seems like you can only choose 60 or 144Hz.
A 120Hz option would've been the best because you can use it with 30, 40 and 60FPS. And especially with a handheld, theres a big difference in power draw and/or turned down settings needed between hitting 40 and 48FPS and the only other alternative would be 36FPS
144Hz only really makes sense if it also has VRR
@@TheTaxxor 100% agree!!!
I'm ready for this. To add it to my collection, I need to quit.
"RIP ALLY"
lenovo were a bit lazy with the screen, windows does a have a key shortcut to orientate the screen which they could have put a short cut into the GO for the portrait problem, the screen will be a MASSIVE drain on battery along with the cpu and windows itself lol
It has a BBD! A big beautiful display! 😁
To each their own I personally love my 512 gb steamdeck because of all the settings and control I have. Not a fan of detachable controllers I already own a switch feels gimmicky I hate windows so a windows device just is a no go for me that’s why I didn’t buy the rog ally. I bought my steamdeck with the 800 dollar price tag and I have not regretted it I even ordered the deckhd so I’m going to upgrade my screen and while I’m at it the hard drive. But again I think it just breaks down to what makes you happy so happy gaming!
No VRR is a deal breaker to me
So you never hook up your Ally to a TV or monitor right? You wouldn't have bought an Ally is it didn't have VRR?
Wait what? It doesn't have VRR? Lmao it's just stupid.
@@smidlee7747vrr is MANDATORY on devices with variable and not strady performance, especially handhelds. Adaptive sync it's an open standard, it should be easy to get the same display to have vrr.
Once you see the benefits of VRR you can't go back. What a shame that Lenovo changed their marketing at the last min. Obviously that leak was to build up hype which didn't fully do and now people have to wake til Oct will only give time for people to change their mind. Bigger screen at the sacrifice of gaming features.
@@volcalstone Nonsense. I have no problem connecting my gaming laptop which has VRR to a TV that doesn't support it. In order to dock the Ally without XG Mobile you won't have VRR.
Too late!😂 I’ve Pre Ordered it!🎉🎉
Someone made an excellent point about the weight to use a reference. This thing is more comparable to the OneXPlayer line which has a smaller 8.4" screen with detachable controllers. They claim the OneXPlayer weighs more than the Lenovo Legion Go (because of the battery weight and metal) and you can check out those reviews for what is too heavy. Many people dig the OnePlayer Pro /2 and maybe this lighter all plastic Go is a non issue.
It’s also a similar weight to the steam deck with the JSAUX Modcase or DBrand Killswitch.
I have the one x player 2 and ill admit that the size and weight caught of guard initially. after about 5 days I got so use to it that it doesnt bother me at all and it feels comfortable. I think first impressions alot of reviewers will ding the weight of this device but the fact that not as wide as the one x and weights less I think the people who own this will get use to the size and weight quickly.
@@AnotherRichEXP you were that guy, 🤣 who made the point. 👍I am leaning towards the Go at this rate. My only concern is when Valve is revealing their new hardware as leaks show something is coming. I'd feel better at least knowing what it is, cause even if its standalone VR I might still want it. The other little thing is the GPD Win Mini. An improved beta unit is in the works for UA-cam testers to review. This is obviously going in the ultra compact format direction it will become very tempting if they can solve the heat and fan noise problem. I love the keyboard clamshell design. Still leaning towards bestbuy as I have $100 points which will expire in early November. It sucks that the 1TB might not be an option this year Microcenter only lists the 512GB, so that 1TB Go bestbuy link could be a mere placeholder. 😭
@tomoprime217 It could be that the 1tb is only exclusive to bestbuy but I plan on changing mine to 2tb anyway. While I really like these handheld from China the horror stories I read on the discord next device has to be something I can just drive and take back. One x player has a broken rb button and SD card slot and it cost $100+ to send it back and 3 week return rate. Microcenter is good because they just give you a new one on the spot
@@AnotherRichEXP I hear yah. I just love the principle of getting a 1TB for $50 more and not having to open up and sell the old drive. Makes it easy to exchange too. A 2TB would be the way to go especially if it had 32GB of ram. Otherwise I plan to keep most of my games on my laptop and desktop. I figured I can expand the 1TB with a microSD. Definitely will consider upgrading if that NVME 2242 standard gets cheaper. 👍
hopefully more than 40 mins battery!🤞
Kind of funny how they say up to 2tb of micro SD storage. While technically true there is no 2tb sd card in existence that isnt a prototype from 2022
Technically they’re not wrong but it is definitely flashy advertising. You can buy the 1.5tb micron one from mouser but it’s not cheap(over $500)
Only thing holding me back is the ram. Why tf didn’t Asus or Lenovo have a 32GB option? Most of us nerds would pay an extra $100. As stated it’s less of an issue with a page file on a fast gen 4 drive, but still.
i hope the kinks get ironed out in the mass-production units (and maybe they'll have landscape screen, though i'm not very hopeful)
They wont, only the ally has that
No vrr isn’t really bad you just turn on v-sync. I don’t think people realize that’s an option
Also the dpad will most likely be a personal thing cause I’m pretty cracked at fighting games with dpads like that
Fair points. vsync is a decent performance hit on these handhelds though. It’s definitely a nice piece of tech.
Ya we will have to see they can always add it in the future or for the final product
Also I believe the processing power and graphics power should be stronger then the ally. I have the ally right now and will be returning it to get the lenovo because I think all around it’s more powerful and the detachable controllers are just the perfect idea to me.
@andynajar99 why do you think its more powerful? Same chip, a little les tdp than the ally. So most likely it will run similar just maybe a sharper image
Lmao. Wtf are you talking about. Tearing is not the issue, you won't hit 60 or let alone 144fps constantly to need vsync to avoid tearing. The issue is stuttering under the refresh rate, and you will get plenty of thos in low-performance scenarios like handhelds. Adaptive sync/vrr is an open standard. In 2023 there should be ZERO screens without it. It makes no sense at all to have a fixed refresh monitor on a device like this, it's stupid and a bad thing. I don't want to see the same frame 2-3 times because that fucking vrr is not there and I can't hit 60fps.
No vrr really sucks . But I do like the fact it has 1tb model. If ROG ally had 1tb model, I would have gotten that instead. I don’t want to open up the Pc handheld I’m really not a Pc gamer. My purpose is to play Xbox games on the go
Agree, but i think Lenovo should go up to 2TB.
Asus wants you to change the M2 drive yourself. You can open it without breaking warranty
onlything ive really gotten from this is that there will ALWAYS bein something on the verge of being dead making it useless screen dead controllers charged controllers dead screens charged and even worse when one controller dies faster then the other when the batteries start degrading.
This whole video is based on other reviews and assumptions.
Its too big and weights too much imo if going this route make it even bigger laptop without a keyboard then u got good cooling/big battery/put it on desk but biggest issue for me is i want console in a device like this so windows is pretty much a no go.
But how well will it run Starfield?
I was really tempted but as soon i eared: no vrr….this device is no good for me…vrr should be a must from now on. Total game changer and i expected to be on the new upcoming steam
This was a weird "myths busted" video by someone that hasn't touched the unit. Things like "this is no good except for the things it is good for" (more concise paraphrase etc) is strange. Yes, can't play elden ring at 144, but hades you can. Given the state of the current handheld market and what is available, the reality (assuming you want a BIG screen portable device vs pocketable etc) is this: 1) it lacks VRR (vs ally) and 32gb ram (vs many). Otherwise, if you want a big screen device, this meets or beats all other options (including, except for ally, PRICE and LOCAL returns/exchanges (for many) etc, which are HUGE selling points). Put up your video and thoughts but don't call it myths busted when you busted no myths.
Thanks for the criticism. No device is perfect and I’m still looking forward to learning more about this device and having it in my hands. Not trying to look at it from a negative or positive perspective, just opinions based on the facts already presented and some review of some items that were shown but not actually discussed in the accredited videos. There are two myths that were discussed and from what I can tell are busted at this point.
@@baldsealion Very fair response. I appreciate that, upvoted video and will be back. Have a great weekend!
Will it have the same ease of repair as the steamdeck
For me, I'm not crazy about performance, i want ergonomics so i can play for long periods of time and a good software experience (steam os is magnificent and has tonnes of community support/plugins). Steam deck is already chunky can't imagine holding something 30% heavier and less ergonomic for very long. Also for high end games i just use game streaming or moonlight.
I could not hold my straight face after you said the steam deck is comfortable and closed the video.
To each their own I suppose! Which handheld do you find offers you the most comfort?
Steam Deck is easily the most comfortable handheld out there.
This is the third handheld that I'm gonna get. First was PSP, second was Steam Deck.
Honestly, based on what we have seen so far, I think it’s a good choice. Everyone is going to use their device differently.
Steam deck is better than this if you dont care about the screen. Cheaper, better community, easy to repair, better support in the long run.
all I care is the screen. I'm streaming most games from my RTX3800 rig.
@@81Riel you could get those AR glasses, I use them on the deck and its a game changer. They should work with any device.
@@BlackSilence001 yes, I'm think about it 👌
I don't think black bar is a problem, 16:10 is the feature to maximize screen, bezelless. If the game not support it but it is still playable right, not a legion go fault. Older game or using emulator build 4:3 so not a big deal it just the game.
It’s not really a “problem” but just a downside. You lose a little bit of screen, but there is a lot to give. It just looks a little weird as it shifts the content downward, so your bezel on top looks thicker than the bottom. It’s a small gripe, but an unfortunate side effect of 16:10
But when a game supports 16:10, it gives you an extra view, so it's a feature rather than a downside, why some people seeing 16:10 as a "Downside" I don't know how they look like that.
RoG ally is 16:9 but still has a large black bar top and bottom that you can't fix it, yup that's a "not bezel-less screen".
So when you are on 16:10 but the game only supports 16:9, it looks like RoG ally virtually. Big bezels. The same thing except RoG ally has permanent black bar you can't fix it via software or patch.
Black Bar on the 16:10 can be fixed via GPU driver / control panel or via display itself (on external monitor/TV mostly) , just turn on "maximize" or "fit the screen" (scaling) option I think. It's stretched out or cropped to fit 16:10, a dirty fix.
@@FaridRudiansyah yeah then things in game appear “skinnier” I do this with lossless scaling on the steam deck in Windows - for the PS Remote Play, as it only allows 720p or 1080p and the deck is native 800p
@@baldsealion either black bar, skinner, Stretched out, cropped or properly patched games. You have options, work around to fix/hack/solve it.
But not with 16:9 that has a "big built-in black bar". I have a 16:10 portable screen, 16:9 bezel-less monitor, Legion laptop (16:10) and RoG ally, so big bezels on the RoG ally really annoyed me why not go 16:10 or use bigger screen that bezel-less, probably just wider a bit (probably as wide as steamdeck) or same screen size but narrow a bit, of course less grip.
I wanted to...want to buy this. But after it was fully revealed, the parts looked a little cheap, and 8 inches on a handheld is simply mammoth. I ended up getting a OneXFly instead, because it's light, people say it's comfortable even with big hands, and 7" 120hz seems like a very reasonable screen. You can also get a 32GB RAM version, which I opted for.
No VRR and confirmed by own lenovo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
damn dude, that's really personal to you😅
I know right, does it or not?
@@reidreynolds8523 doesn't have
The switch wasn't as good as it is now on launch day, and there was and still are problems with the switch joy-cons, just like steam deck, just like rog ally.
Nothings perfect and everything is missing something 😆
Is there anything you like? Most of your sentences contain a "but", "however", etc. The product design always happens in a real world with real constraints. What you may like it may stays in yout imagination.
Well was trying to be reasonable on all things and consider the different possibilities. Left out a lot of personal opinion so people could judge for themselves and discuss here. This is what I like about it personally:
1. Beautiful screen with QHD
2. A Trackpad!
3. Tablet option possibly(I would like if I could replace my surface go with this- need to find a good size BT keyboard with a trackpad that maybe could be put in a cover)
4. Possibly goes down to lower tdp than the Ally(although it is the same Z1E chip so we will see what kind of real world performance difference there is)
5. Can’t really complain about faster RAM than the Ally
6. The bigger battery is a plus but is likely a compensation for the larger screen+charging controllers so we may not see better battery life than the Ally.
7. More back buttons than the Ally- although the placement seems odd.
I think that’s about it.
Will this do emulators easily enough?
Should perform similar to the ROG Ally as it’s the same chip.
0:56 Can someone explain what does that mean? Can the legion go not be enhanced with an external gpu while docked like the Rog ally?
It can be - but the XG Mobile connector is proprietary tech by ASUS, so their XG mobile eGPUs won’t be compatible. However any thunderbolt 4 eGPU setups should work.
Lenovo doesn't have a product/technology like RoG XG Mobile right now, basically its a Mobile GPU that is built outside of a laptop gaming, so you can plug externally to any other RoG compatible devices and more portable than a standard eGPU.
Lenovo GO use USB4 (like TB3 protocol), so could use any eGPU and you can build yourself way cheaper than XG Mobile but bigger, heavier and took more space too.
But oculink is also an "open protocol" that is 50% faster than ThunderBolt 3/4, the first handheld device that uses this is from GPD.
In short eGPU is a way to upgrade gaming performance especially when docked but needs a special port.
Ally having VRR and XGM capability are killer features. XGM is just a clean setup and is small in size when you think about it. Having an eGPU might be more cost effective but it won't be as simple as an XGM. Go doesn't have Oculink so that might be a deal breaker for some. GPD needs to make a device like this asap imo.
Xgm is so stupid. Reason sssssoooooo expensive. Really i dont understand why someone pay it.
sound quality ,none reviewer mention this.
I'm going to be honest I don't like the thing it's heavy as hell bulky clunky I'm not going to be taking that out the house I mean that the whole point of it right "handheld" I couldn't even do it with my steam deck then the Asus RoG Ally came out and it was a game changer it's light as hell and it works great with my AAA games on the go... It's just a comfortable device all round 700$ was the sweet spot on purchasing I'm good I'll pass on that Legion G thanks on the video man 👍💯✌️
dude. it's just a pc
So you have nothing new to offer since you haven't acthad hands on. You'll assume and if you happen to be right you'll say told you so.
I'd love for Lenovo to send one my way but they haven't offered. Yep I'm just an average consumer with thoughts and opinions based on collection of facts. - This is kind of an older video though, have several others with newer info.
I completely disagree with the steam deck having the most comfortable ergonomics. I have owned most of these handheld pcs and the one that is the most comfortable to hold is the Ayaneo 2. As far as the screen resolution, it is not a negative and will never be a negative to have a better resolution on the screen. You'd be surprised at the amount of games that are able to achieve 120 fps. Also game streaming is a thing and it also takes advantage of the higher refresh rate screen and resolution. I think Lenovo has yet to let the people that actually review these consoles touch them yet. So there is still a lot of information that is missing!
Where is a compasion??? Click bait
The comparison was between the multiple product reviews out there for the Legion Go and some items that were addressed in them, but not discussed in detail(such as portrait display). Were you thinking of it being a comparison against a particular handheld?
I do mention some features or missing features based on the steam deck and the ROG ally.
I'll stick to saving up for a 512GB steam deck thank you this seems like an interesting handheld PC I'll be keeping an eye on it however I feel like the battery will drain faster having that higher resolution screen among other things we don't know yet about this PC we'll see and the micro SD card slot for the Ally is a deal breaker for me it shouldn't have been so close to the exhaust vents bricking SD cards redesign it in a different spot then I'll reconsider getting an Ally
The steam deck has an awful screen and battery life is mediocre too
The deck is better than this if you dont care about the screen.
The problem is windows and games, i have green screen video problem on FFX, the infamous microsoft vcredist on others, you need the right one dll (hello Mad Max). Older games don’t like high res screen, from small text to strech screen because it’s 4/3 native, some can only be played with mouse and keyboard.
Day 1 for me
The only real problem with this device is windows... The rest is just being picky. I love my Steam Deck and i think that if it comes to support, price/performance ratio its just unbeatable. But... The Lenovo products are very reliable. Had 3 Lenovo Laptops and they all been fantastic. This machine is something else... It already beat the Rog Ally. No questions there... If Lenovo gonna support this handheld as Valve does the SD this will be the best handheld of 2023.
You sound biased bro 😂 rog ally is better than steam deck tf
But yes lenovo is good love their products we’ll have to wait to see 🤟🏽
@@xxkingh4ckxx281 Biased ? Because i have a different opinion than you ? 🤣 From my perspective the Steam Deck is way better... Not only its more stable but has much less hardware issues. If you dont believe me go on the internet and check it out yourself. Sheer power does not make a product better... Reliability and ease of use does. I can play every game i want on the Deck at 30fps with High settings for 450€. The Ally can do that at 45-55fps... For 799€... Only a complete idiot gonna pay nearly the double for 15-20fps...
I cant get over the plastic joysticks and the horrible clicky dpad. Besides that everything else seems good
Lenovo Legion Space is Horrible!
I absolutely dislike Lenovo Bios as well.
Terrible Terrible Bios.
Legion is just the worst out of all the handheld companies.
SMH then no VRR.
I get it but damn … Lenovo With all their big dog tech companies crap, can’t get a Landscape Display!?!? SMH cmon… 700$ is going back into my back account if Legion space is not better and seriously better by the end of my return period. Facts.
im sure this youtuber bought an ally and regret it thats why hes making a hate video to legion go loooool
Sorry you see it as a hate video. I actually skipped the Ally and so glad I did. The Go has some definite promise to it. Next video I'll try to sound more "positive".
It's 2023 and you are still using that word "Gimmicky"
Lol. When I heard you say that, I literally stopped this video!!
More than anything the thing is just too big. Steam Deck is already the upper limit for me and this has gone bigger still.
so many spoilt brats on the comments. If its charging you 1k plus, then by all means i agree with u. But at that price and u expect everything to be 🔥, u r better off joining the woke community.
define woke
@@ExtremalMetal Woke comes straight out of the church which is why it's come out of the West. The church of Woke takes "we are all equal in Christ" and remove the Christ part. A 400 ib ugly woman may be equal to a beautiful hot woman in Christ but she still not equal in beauty. Woman may be equal to a man in Christ but women are not equal in raw strength as a man ,etc.
All I want is a handheld that I can doc and play cs2, valorant and apex 😂🥲
I'm looking for the same experience, I play mostly shooters ( apex, valorant) but I like playing RPGs sometimes as well on the go. If this device can run shooters at 120 hz and FPS am all in 😅
The battery life is going to suck so bad.