Orion Taraban PsycHacks vs. Chase & Brian! | Whatever Podcast #5
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Orion Taraban is a California board certified and licensed psychologist receiving his Doctorate of Psychology in 2016. He also hosts his popular UA-cam channel PsycHacks which has nearly half a million subscribers.
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🕘 Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:10 Introduction of the guests
2:20 Why did his views trigger women?
4:00 The difference between women and men (hypergamy)
5:30 "All men pay to access a women"
8:00 Factors in marketplace value
13:20 Is there a "wall" for both sexes + the average age for marriage
19:00 The MOST important qualities to look for ❗
22:10 What is a useful 8?
26:50 The bare minimum can get a woman HOW far?
28:20 Does Taraban help men in contentious relationships? What is commonality?
32:10 Men need respect, women need love 💘
38:40 How can women cultivate for future marriages
43:20 Finding a man and building an empire (women in work)
47:00 Is confidence attractive?
49:20 Externalizing is the biggest red flag in a woman 🚩
51:10 Women vs. Accountability
56:10 Advice for men being the best leaders
58:00 "Marriage ISN'T for everyone"
1:01:00 Taraban's remedy for anxiety with approaching women
1:06:30 "It's important to disappoint women" (punishment in a relationship)
1:12:30 Daddy issues + picking the "boring" partner
1:20:00 "Breakup-ology" video reaction 🎥
1:26:40 The popularity of Fifty Shades of Grey
1:33:30 Pair-bonding (promiscuity in women AND men) 🔢
1:37:30 The Madonna-wh*re complex
1:43:30 The acts of attaining a guy + sensuality
1:49:30 Return to the Useful 8's and becoming useful in a man's life
1:55:30 Is it the easiest century for masculine men and feminine women?
1:56:30 TTS: The double standard with passive optionality
2:01:20 How can women NOT gain a high body count
2:07:30 How to HOOK a guy
2:09:10 Superchats
2:11:10 What do women want?
2:13:20 Most common desires in relationships
2:17:20 Taraban's book and outro
🕘 Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:10 Introduction of the guests
2:20 Why did his views trigger women?
4:00 The difference between women and men (hypergamy)
5:30 "All men pay to access a women"
8:00 Factors in marketplace value
13:20 Is there a "wall" for both sexes + the average age for marriage
19:00 The MOST important qualities to look for ❗
22:10 What is a useful 8?
26:50 The bare minimum can get a woman HOW far?
28:20 Does Taraban help men in contentious relationships? What is commonality?
32:10 Men need respect, women need love 💘
38:40 How can women cultivate for future marriages
43:20 Finding a man and building an empire (women in work)
47:00 Is confidence attractive?
49:20 Externalizing is the biggest red flag in a woman 🚩
51:10 Women vs. Accountability
56:10 Advice for men being the best leaders
58:00 "Marriage ISN'T for everyone"
1:01:00 Taraban's remedy for anxiety with approaching women
1:06:30 "It's important to disappoint women" (punishment in a relationship)
1:12:30 Daddy issues + picking the "boring" partner
1:20:00 "Breakup-ology" video reaction 🎥
1:26:40 The popularity of Fifty Shades of Grey
1:33:30 Pair-bonding (promiscuity in women AND men) 🔢
1:37:30 The Madonna-wh*re complex
1:43:30 The acts of attaining a guy + sensuality
1:49:30 Return to the Useful 8's and becoming useful in a man's life
1:55:30 Is it the easiest century for masculine men and feminine women?
1:56:30 TTS: The double standard with passive optionality
2:01:20 How can women NOT gain a high body count
2:07:30 How to HOOK a guy
2:09:10 Superchats
2:11:10 What do women want?
2:13:20 Most common desires in relationships
2:17:20 Taraban's book and outro
Brian wasted Andrew Wilson on random of thots but doesn’t hit him up for psych jacks?
@@ItsDeonJulio despite the 'vs' in the title it was more so just a interview / discussion, in which a professional debater (like andrew) wouldn't be able to contribute as much
Andrew should have a podcast where he just talks about his ideas or criticises other ideas, in a form of monologue, so there's no interrupting, yelling, etc.
Something like James Lindsay and his New Discourses where he criticises w**e m**x**m.
The story how men are the most valuable after age 50 is total bullshit. Men in 40s and 50s are usually addicted, ill, fat, with mental problems, even if they are pretty whealthy.
@@marguskiis7711Source?
Orion is one of the most temperate, clear, concise and knowledgeable orators online. Kudos.
Doctor Orion
Ok but if you go for that version it's gotta be Dr. Taraban @@user-ds1fd2rm4p
I think he's pretty chill about it. Also it seems to be not a "normal" Ph.D. Orion Taraban uses Psy.D. that's a very specific "Doctor" title.
But that's academic hairsplitting, Orion Taraban, Psy.D. did his homework and is on top of his game. I see him as a role model.
My best regards from Berlin.
The Notorious Dr Taliban Onion himself
Sure Why be a productive member of society when you can instead be some beta psychologist that just panders to his audience?
They call it a pseudo science because of people like this. It's just modern day snake oil
❤
With Orion there, that side of the table is more intelligent than the sum of the last 500 shows.
Doctor Orion
@@user-ds1fd2rm4p If you're trying to show respect you should address him by his surname because you don't know him personally.
@normalusername5223 what's his surname
@@normalusername5223 Sur Orion
*crucible has entered the chat* obfuscation. Gish galloping.
Top 10 of all Whatever podcasts....excellent speaker Orion is, clear, concise humble and honest. This is a role model of humanity.
His UA-cam channel is an information goldmine. Someone would have to spend a fortune with a therapist to receive the same knowledge and he’s just slinging it out for free.
@@dizzzzzzler agreed, it's a university level education available for free.
@@dizzzzzzler I just must be an idiot. I don’t see what he said that’s so spectacular. It just sounds like a lot of basic common sense and typical human behavior in some cases.
Ally Drummond was near tops in my mind. Although she had a particularly young immature panel to push back against. But it was her who introduced me to the word 'neoteny' and wouldn't put up with the peado accusations b.s.
Doctor Orion
Almost an hour in and Madison’s contribution is, “gotta be humble” and “I agree.” 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Madysen contributes with her beauty.
It's possible Brian has 'feelings' for her.😉
I know, right. She never stops talking.
@@YTguySmithy-lk6go she is his sister
I'd rather that than whatever the usual BS chatter from the ladies on the panel
Keep having this guy on the show! Orion cooks!
Orion Taraban is Boss
Doctor Orion
Bro was wrong about a lot of things. His voice just sound good😂 actually listen to what he’s saying. The dude said a woman look better at 38 than 20. FOH, I don’t know what y’all heard but he was catering to women the whole time.
Hi can you provide the timecode please? I didn't hear that and it's very unlikely he said it like that. @@JakeStarz. best regards
@@JakeStarz.A timcode would be helpful, the talk is 2+ hours. I watched the whole thing some days ago and i'm not aware of that being said.
Honestly this has been Whatever’s best podcast….. Bravo, need more of this, Congrats Brian, Chase & Orion
Doctor Orion
You’re all delusional if you think we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who can choose whoever they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed a
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames…
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
Its really great having a professional like Dr Taraban having a dialogue in the "manosphere" to bring an educated, balanced, and insightful approach to modern dating and relationships.
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
HACKS IS ARROGANT AND NEEDS A HUMILUTY CHECK
SIR BRIAN ...... THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF YOUR BEST SHOWS THAT YOU HAVE EVER HAD ON YOUR PLATFORM.
Yes I agree I think he needs more like this
I disagree, they said a lot of things that were literally wrong. When they said women hitting the wall at 30 was cope I knew this was gonna be a $imp fest.
Women factually hit the wall at 30 because it’s not based on what men think, it’s a biological reality of the female body (Fertility). 😂Everything they said was virtue signaling and not hurting feelings, they don’t know what they talking about.
But not as many views as having hoes
You’re all delusional if you think we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who can choose whoever they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed a
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
Perhaps one of the best Whatever episodes ever. Love Orion, less chaotic, good flow, the back and forth and less arguing is SO refreshing. Thanks
I love Dr. Orion, please have him back on again!
He is delusional. He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
This format should start to predominate over the larger panel. It's more productive, more positive, and probably easier to organize.
Nah, not nearly as entertaining.
@@eNoqfOu if you are low IQ then yes, maybe you need that type of entertainment.
No, that's not what the show is. It's a dating podcast. These types of episodes are "special" episodes. The regular episodes need to predominate
Most people are not that bright and just want to watch a springer type shitfest over and over. I’d prefer this, but we are outnumbered significantly on this.
@@HammytheSammy-ds2emOut numbered or not I think these smaller shows are better
Orion truly deserves a follow on his platform. This guy, without hating or being disrespectful, can open your mind to different perspectives.
He’s delusional and going to make y’all victims to the male loneliness epidemic. He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
This episode was far more interesting and entertaining than any of these episodes with masses of women!
Thats because 95% of women never say anything interesting
Damn. I was broken up with just under two months ago and I’ve been struggling to get over her. Nearly all the problems and red flags Orion lists throughout this podcast were things she did or traits she had. I feel a little better about the breakup and I’m looking forward to watching more videos on his own channel.
Hang in there brother and learn more about the rules before you try to play the game again. #1, know that you are the prize! Not the woman. She is just a companion and a helper, but only if she wants to be in your world.
You come into this world alone and leave alone. Allow things to flow if they were meant to be. But most girls have 7 backups when they "break up" with guys , most of them want a fantasy for you to fulfill not to love unconditionally.
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
get over it son, you are the prize not the woman, improve yourself and if you choose to be with a woman choose one that treats you well.
This was eons beyond the normal panel cesspool. More of this please.
True, but discussions like this don't generate viral clips and TikToks
Touché
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.🤷♀️🤷♀️
Best episode ever. I don't really need the of girls in the panel. This is so informative with people who can articulate themselves so well it makes you want to listen to them. Maybe women's point of view would be helpful but also from people with credentials, maybe Sadia?
Sadia = grifter
yes Sadia , blue pill , the color of the pill dont matter ur gonna suffer , no matter what pill u take
Sadia is just meh.
Speaks about a lot of OK ideas, not enough about implementation.
I agree. The OF discussions and talking points are getting old. OF girls are not the only option in the dating world, yet this podcast often makes it seem like it is.
@ConservativeWoman35 there still 3 oh 4s
Came across Dr. Orion Taraban recently and his content is top tier. Glad to see him on here, didn’t know this is his 2nd appearance
Good guest. The lack of TTS interruptions was LOVELY.
Seriously. I don't know why that hasn't been changed yet. It wreaks havoc on the flow of conversation.
Orion actually adds value whenever he releases a new video.
Orion is an incredibly wise man.. What a treasure.
Being delusional and wrong doesn’t make you a “wise” man. He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
That Blackjack reference is gold. That's explain exactly how people come to settle.
Way better for viewers than watching a bunch of dumb horses but it doesn't get you paid as much.
People who are into the Kardashian type content should be natural selected
What a great panel tonight , always great to see Chase !!
Need to see more of him around !
Absolutely loved this podcast! Clear and well spoken conversations with no interruptions or drama. Loved the format.
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.😂😂😂
This was my favourite episode of Whatever. Orion is an amazingly articulate and learned man.
I like this intellectual/mental sharings/discussion. No arguments very calm.👍
Chase don't ever leave us like that again.
1:48:00 - Regarding how a woman can indicate to a man that she really wants him in a way that draws him to her. In college, I met this girl for the first time and she walked over and gave me a hug that was like no other hug I had ever received before or since. She wrapped her arms around my neck and pressed her whole body against me and held on for like 30 solid seconds as if her life depended on it. I did not know it at the time, but she had been observing me from a distance and talking with my roommate about me for months and once she finally got the courage to meet me she was not going to let that first impression go to waste. I was already in a relationship with another girl at that time so I did not pursue her but in hind sight, I really should have married that girl as she was completely and hopelessly smitten by me but I did not know then what I know now about the importance of female selection.
There are way a girl can show a man respect and affection without sex.
The guy in d white shirt was very into this interview and he asked very excellent questions.
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.🤮
Its chase he's was here alot
Refreshing to see a whatever podcast that isn’t just a bunch of onlyfans models saying egregious things. Orion is the real deal.
Ikr, the women get so annoying after a few videos 😂😂
Loved this conversation. Hope to hear more of Orion in this format!
Thank you, guys! this ep was the best my only regret is i couldnt watch you guys live(TImezone diff) so that I could have you twice now. it was so insightful and relatable to my experience 😀
Thank you guys for such an insightful conversation 🙌
This was a very, very good show! Very informative and pleasant to watch.
I really hope Chase, and Orion that I heard here for the second time, will come again. They are based, easygoing and it's always nice to ear them out. Again, had a great time. Nicely done Brian! :)
I came in halfway through of the live, but I agree, that format was a lot better than a panel of 10. Especially better than all of the OF girls.
Great input Madison! Well said 👍
Awesome show, Brian! 👍🏻
It was awesome to actually gain brain cells instead of losing them! 🤭😜😂
I really like when you add debates and streams like this one among all the other regular streams.👏🏻
And it was great to have Chase back again!😊
Christ is King!🤍👑
best whatever podcast in awhile - do more of these please
Amazing talk guys. So much more pleasant and informative
Excellent insight by Dr.T, as always. Man I can't wait for your book to drop... Congrats on all your success!
Thanks for talking with Orion.
This was fantastic and informative.
Dr Orion’s mind is like a Tetris board where all the pieces fit perfectly. The guy is crystal clear with his approach and the way he carries bis arguments.
I watched this entire episode. It is rare that I watch a whole episode. Great, well thought out content Orion.
Great show, a lot of deployable knowledge here! Thanks
It's great to watch a lucid description of relationships from Orion's perspective, without all the hyperbole and shock tactics of so many in the manosphere. There is some genuinely useful information here for young men.
The place where I differ from his view is when it comes to 'being nasty' sexually for men.
It's not a switch, we have to learn to turn off, or on. It's more of an internal quality that we have to develop, that can be utilised in any aspect of life. Some call it the 'mongrel quality' - 'I know what I want and going to take what I want, and what I want, is you.'
In my late 20’s I realized that the regret of not approaching was far worse than the rejection. So from that point on I push the thought of the regret to give me courage to act. And I use this in all aspects of my life, not just women
This works, as long as courage doesn't supersede your intelligence. You don't want to end up like our friend, the Alligator Hunter.
I really liked the format of this show. I also liked the debate of Michael Knowles vs the three feminist girls. It’s actual discussion vs trying to squeeze a coherent answer out of an OF girl.
Finally I professional psychologist on the Whatever podcast! Excellent!
Maddy is going to be the most well adjusted woman in the world.
I could see her actually focused on the conversation too. Best of luck to her I wish her well
Great discussion. Will love to see Dr. Taraban in this format again!
This is like a dream come true. You gathered all and only my favorite guests.
2:10:00 - Taking care of a man (doing things for and serving him) is something completely different from mothering. It's amazing that so many women don't know the difference.
Jealous women on tiktok spew vitriolic statements about healthy relationships to the point the masses of women regurgitate misinformation and then devour normalcy.
Wow, Brian.. great show. Literal goldmine for an ailing society. Everyone has to watch this episode. So informative. Holy crap I wish I was younger - but a wife and two kids, I guess I did ok, but.... this is key info for either sex to relate - not just know, but understand the origin of each others' behaviors
Brother, you have a wife and 2 kids...you are not ok, you are blessed 🙏
Great show tonight !!!
Two wonderful GUESTS Orion and Chase !!!
Thank you for sharing education with us 🙌
I hope Brian actually learned something tonight.
Chase is ALWAYS humble and respectful when talking about females.
Enjoyed this episode very much 🩷
Yeah he’s humble and respectful when running through them as well. He’s just like other men, don’t be fooled.
@@heatherhallohe sleeps around don’t get it twisted
@@sdmfp333exactly. Not respectful of those women and their future husbands at all.
@@heatherhallo Chase actually doesnt sleep around. He may have done in the past, but he doesn't anymore. I think his body count is in the single digits though maybe even one hand. Maybe you are thinking of Orion?
Incredible !
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you !
Best one yet! Super interesting and insightful! 👏🏾💯
GREAT SHOW
This was a great watch. You should have Orion on again.
Excellent & insightful episode. Thanks!!
Great panellist and format!
1:00:10 W Question. W Answer. Marriage put the husband at a massive disadvantage in terms of losing his assets, home, money, and kids. Getting kicked out of his home means he will have to move back in with his parents but struggle to rebuild his life after he pays all the alimony, child support and her legal fees.
such a great show!!! keep it up guys
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure / parental investment or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
Welcome back Chase!! Missed seeing you here!
Fantastic show. Orion is a fountain of knowledge and a great communicator. Definitely should have him on more often.
Chase, of course, a soldier of God and brother in Christ. is always appreciated.
Maddy, the wonderfully useful 8. 😅
Much respect to you all. Thanks Brixan!
What about Kiki? She is also important. She may be shy, but she is an integral part of the show.
@ Haha, yes! Of course! She's so quiet these days I forget she's even there. I miss when she used to read the TTS!!
I agree, just find Chase annoying sometimes because he keeps brambling about god. I don’t mind what people decide to do with their lives but it’s a fairytale and I don’t want to listen to a podcast that keeps talking about this fairytale. It’s also a source that is constantly used as an excuse for bad behavior (for men and women). He is an intelligent guy, doesn’t need to constantly bring up religion.
@@GinoNLHow do you know it’s a fairytale? Seems mighty presumptuous of you.
Chase just rehashes what he's been told in church, and most churches are way off Yeshua's message.
Awesome show tonight Brixan!
I can see Orion has so much to offer.
Now this is one of my top 5 greatest podcast
Solid episode
Always a great time with my whatever friends, and great show Biran! Very intellectual 💙
He’s delusional if he truly thinks we don’t consider men’s looks and that we find rotten 50 years old men more attractive than men in their 20s.
Women in their early 20s who CAN choose WHOEVER they want to date choose to date men who are 25, 26, 27. These women have the most selective power of all women. The truth is that the best looking YOUNG women want the best looking YOUNG men. You right that they want slightly older tho but it’s less than 10 years age gap. Citations: Ausubel | Popul Stud | 2022 4141 Conroy-Beam & Buss | Ev Behav Sci | 2019 Wade | Sociological Images | 2015 Maestripieri et al. | Front Psychol | 2015 Rudder Crown Publishing Group | 2014 1357 Grantvedt | J Soc, Ev, Cult Psych | 2013 Buunk et al. | Ev Hum Behav | 2001
Even, 30 is pushing it. Even a 10 year age gap is uncommon as the studies showed. 10% is still very uncommon and its very risky and often ends in a shitshow
Those with a 10-year gap were found to be 39 percent more likely to divorce.
It makes sense to me because sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks and older men are not in their prime in looks especially given that men can start balding at 18. The female desire for money is mainly driven for resource to run family structure or fund a lifestyle she wants, that isn’t sexual or romantic attraction. It’s why older men tend to attract younger women who are gold diggers rather than younger women who actually are sexually and romantically attracted to him thus will care for him and do acts of service for him and respect him. Young women who go for older men are either gold diggers usually for his money as he doesn’t have the looks because he is older or because she didn’t have a present father as a child and has mental issues from it thus she seeks older men as a trauma response of an absent father. Women who are not sexually or romantically attracted to you tend to not respect you hence a lot of these young women dating older men drop them off to the care home after and they’re always disrespectful to him asking him for more etc like the typical superficial sugar baby sugar daddy relationship and often go to the next or or decide to actually date and younger man who is attractive.
The hard truth is that women only respect men who they have sexual and romantic attraction to and they’re often more caring and all that feminine stuff to men they are sexually and romantically attracted to basically facially attractive tall men with good frames.
@@XanaxMilfproblem is, men in their 20s have zero game and zero experience therefore zero wisdom.
I think you’re missing those in your evaluation.
@@neomacchio4692 Doesn't change the facts about young women she mentioned in the beginning of her comment. Not a problem enough for them - judging by, you know, REALITY.
@@neomacchio4692 this doesn’t change the fact the young women prefer men in their 20s especially the young and most attractive women who want young attractive men and the studies prove that. “No game” means nothing. An older man with “game” with experience will never be as attractive as a younger man with no game no experience. Sexual and romantic attraction is 100% triggered by looks not by your “game” or experience bs which is copium for old men nobody wants to have sex with your “game”. I rather marry and sleep with a young man with no game who inherently looks better than an oldie.
Older men having more game means nothing when sexual and romantic attraction is looks based. Older men’s game huh? Those with a 10 year age gap were found to be more likely to divorce. All the experience just to have higher divorce rate than those with an age gap below 10?
@@XanaxMilfLook at pics of Brad Pitt at 50, then at 25. Which version is hotter? Which version would be more confident, smooth, experienced?
Orion the king of psychology
amazing insight...I'm shooked at these facts...the world has changed forever
Would love to see more of Orion, very good episode!
Top tier podcast. Kudos
Chase, to answer your question, women should cultivate virtue. They should become selfless, competent, interesting, and admirable. When they become mothers, they will be needed in innumerable ways that will be difficult for them to handle unless they are selfless, giving, calm, and virtuous. Just wait until you get to admire your wife the way I admire mine. Nothing is more impressive than committed motherhood ❤️
Needle in a hoestack. Congrats brother
@@okaySam 100%. Here’s hoping we can turn the tide and help women understand to be virtuous and men to earn them.
Brian, your podcasts are great. This podcast is 100% interesting to listen to if you’re not well informed about these topics. But I like to be entertained, that’s why I watch your podcasts. Every whatever podcast should have a 2:8 ratio (male:female). This is your brand.
Theres hundreds of 7 hour podcasts and you’re bitching about 1 2 hour podcast with a different style and a legit guest? One that is actually informative and not some feminist red pill circle jerk
This conversation has been very insightful. You should invite "Orion Taraban" more often.
It's at minute 47:45 Missy decided to utter her first words, "you gotta be humble" 😂😂😂
Great guest, great podcast!
Great episode Brixan, you should do more like this
Sometimes i forget you do shows like this ill sub again 😅
Really amazing episode. This Orion guy is very cool.
Excellent discussion.
half in podcast and I'm loving it, so useful and interesting, can't stop watching! thanks!
Have Orion instead of Andrew on more. He's so much more intelligent, calm, respectful and curious.
Andrew is an example of a hypocritical Christian that hasn't been humbled...
Agreed. Andrew comes across too aggressively and seems to not be near as centered as Orion.
Straight up awesome!
Great episode
So nice to have articulate conversations and not just o.f. Creators repeating the same thing and getting new subscribers
Amazing video!!!
Very good episode
This guy needs to be protected at all cost , He needs to be a permanent part of the show, his insight is gold.
2:58-3:19
Orion clearly plays chess or at least understands high level chess strategy. Rarely do chess grandmasters make obvious blunders that can immediately secure a win for the opponent. Many games are won by slowly grinding away and improving the position of your pieces bit by bit until the checkmate becomes clear to even amateur players.
Phenomenal episode
I thought there was disagreement or something but It was a friendly conversation so many things to learn from Chase, Brian and Orion. Great show.
This is the best episode I watched so much good information and no only fans losers derailing or acting in bad faith to the conversation.
Great podcast. Excited to read the book.
Great episode! You guys should get some of those old school PUA’s on here, they are all about these fundamental things on how to be a man and how men and women relate like this too.
It would be great to see Troy Francis and Mystery on
Look forward to the book. This guy is great - as a fellow Psych. I will be buying his book. He says it as it is . . .
Women don’t want your average, 35 to 50-year-old lorry driver. They want the hyper successful 35 to 50-year-old business owner. These are very very different things.
This is the problem - stereotypes. MANY of us women want a guy with a job, who can see a pile of washing and throw it in the machine without being asked and generally works as a team to have happy days. Who wants a business dude that is always busy and on the phone?? Not me and I’m not alone!!
u are an exception then, good for u and gl, at least u wont end up as old cat lady like most of "modern women" hopefully, keep watching the show so u know what guys want so u can become that =D btw, washing stuff in todays era is super ez, takes maybe 4-5 minutes of our active time(excluding time the washing mashine does the job for us;p) in the old days it was so much more time consuming :P
@@denadiaz9291 hahahahah oh my god
@@denadiaz9291true a of guys in this space thing women want guys that make a lot of money and are super successful but the average women wants a guy with a job who is willing to spend time with her and be a loving partner
@@6utSmost women want the average guy working a regular job