This is the exact video I’ve been looking for. I’ve been using carbides for three years (don’t judge 🤣) but just got my CBN wheel setup. I’m going to practice on my cheap Harbor Freight set, and then go for some high quality tools. Thanks for the instructional video!
Forgive my ignorance, but I thought most turners wanted to get to carbide blades. I read they were sharper longer and held a great cut. Is that not the case?
Awesome tutorial !!! It really helped to see it so straight forward and clear. David your knowledge and experience are appreciated and so helpful , Hope to see more from you sir!!!
What beautiful gouges. Very professional. However, I have not long since started turning. I have spent all my money on a very simple lathe and gouges. I have nearly half a tonne of Cheryl, Douglas Fir, Holly and Lime sitting outside out side my newly built workshop unprocessed. I didn't appreciate how expensive setting up would be. And I am almost broke, my savings have been destroyed. So I can't afford such a beautiful sharpening station. So it drives me wild when I see a professional giving instruction on such machinery. So can you please make a video on how to make a station with more commonly available tools like a belt sander, bits of wood etc? Not beyond us mere mortals. I have almost 20 Sorby gouges which are mutilated as they were bought second hand. How do you reset gouges like that? They are actually dangerous. I have two broken tool rests which is quite an achievement. I look forward to your reply. Kindest regards James Findlay
Excellent video I cannot afford buying the CBN wheels in Brazil and importing is a costly nightmare. I noticed you are using the vari-grind attachment. Would you please share the setting (notch) used to get those beautiful swept back grind chisel?
If you need a quick reference guide to sharpening each type of lathe tool this is IT! It is also great if you are a turning beginner. The name/use for each tool is noted on screen. I was given a huge box of top quality tools from yesteryear, & I hope I can get my tool edges to look like those in the video.
Thank you sir for sharing this knowledge. Respect super like and subscribed. I just got a lathe and all my research here shows me I need to know how to sharpen my tools. I am so thankful I came across your video as I am on a budget. I do want to ask what base that is to adjust for the right angle of grinding and the best all around and correct wheel for grinding them.
I used to look down on using a jig, and always sharpened free hand with a nice grinder like the one you have, but now I have a harbor freight grinder and the tool rest is so flimsy, and the wheel is narrow.its really hard to get a good grind these days.a jig will help.
Nice grinder, and only $1,300.00 dollars. Just for reference, I lucked out and picked up a four wheel grinder, on an iron frame, off craigslist for $200.00. I swapped the 240 VAC motor for an industrial sewing machine motor ($200.00) and I can control the speeds to from 0 to 2,500 RPM. Now that I've been using the beast for a few years, I see the whole thing could be built using 2x's or an angle iron frame, some pillow blocks and pulleys for twice the machine at about 1/3 the price. Of course, the two CBN wheels brought the price up nearly four hundred, but they've proven to be a great investment too. All that aside, great video.
Very nice, and what a fine "stone". I am used to my tools grinded freehand, keeping sharpness as long as possible with a fine stone, a leather strap and polish-paste. The tool has changing "better" parts while the wood provides its own characteristics. And then it is me with changing moods and gestures!
i have a 300grit CBN Wheel and I am trying to getting my edge back on my Carter 5/8" bowl gauge with aluminum handle.... I changed the standard grind to a swept back winged at 50 angle Can you give me some suggestion to bring back a better edge....
CBN wheels. CBN grinding wheel uses Cubic Boron Nitride, or CBN, as its grinding material. Cubic Boron Nitride is considered a super abrasive. As the name suggests, super abrasives are stronger than normal abrasives like Aluminum Oxide and Silicon Carbide.
Great question Darrell, although we don’t have it in this video. It is ground very similar to a traditional 50° bowl gouge. The only difference is the main grind angle is at a more aggressive 40°. If you’re using the one-way system, your protrusion out of your jig is still 2 inches and your jig angle is still 23°. If you have additional questions, our details sharpening guide can be found on our website for free and we’re happy to help with sharpening questions over the phone or email! Happy turning!
@@Carterandsontoolworks I have the “Savannah Pro Grind” system. I will try to get angles correct as I love the gouge and really don’t want to mess up the original grind! 😁😁😁
Thank you mr. Carter for that info, I've been searching for a sharpening video and I could never find one but I found one!. How does a poor man afford a grinder like that? Is there an easier way for poor man to grind his wood lathe tools without that expensive grinder and jig? Thanks anyway
I'm confused by your statement that correct angle for sharpening the skew is 1 to 1 1/2 times the thickness of the steel tool. How does 1 to 1 1/2 times 3/8 equal an angle?
Hi Mark, thank you for your question. The length of the angle should be 1 to 1-1/2 times the thickness. For example, our tool is 3/8" thick, so the length of the angle should be between .375 and .562. (Our math is .375 times 1 and .375 times 1.5). Thanks again, and happy turning!
Thank you for the quick reply. If I understand you correctly you are referring to the distance from the beginning of the bevel to the tip of the cutting edge, is that correct?
Buy a Sorby ProEdge Plus for better results and massive time savings. It sharpens bench, framing, carving, and turning chisels, drill bits, plane irons, knives, garden tools, axes, hatchets, machetes, lawn mower blades, and almost anything else you want to put a stellar edge on.
When sharpening the spindle gouge you set the tip of the chisel at 2 inches. BUT, you didn't specify at what distance to set the V-jig from the wheel thus making the 2 inch setting a moot point.
is their need for going to i much finer grit, thank you so much, a relief angle, the correct term or the primary cutting edge, people call it secondary now, the secondary is cut first and of cource primary relief is cut second so the whole terminology got all twisted around. i like real terminology for this trade
Not on the face of a bench grinder unless you wanna ruin your tools and have a fragile concave "hollow grind"... Hollow grinds are fragile and dull quickly... Get a flat stone or use the side of the wheel so you're using a flat surface to sharpen instead of a convex profile
BOM DIA SR DAVID CARTER, É COM MUITO PRAZER QUE VENHO ACOMPANHANDO SEUS VIDIOS, SEM COMENTAR. MUITO PRAZER EM CONHECE-LO, POIS SOU BRASILEIRO, MORO NA CIDADE DE JAU / ESTADO DE SÃO PAULO. ___ COMO TAMBÉM PRATICO UM POUCO DE TORNEARIA, E GOSTARIA DE ADQUIRIR UM ( ESMERIL ) , NOVO , GOSTARIA DE SABER DE VOSSA SENHORIA, COMO DEVO CHAMAR ESTA PEDRA DE AFIAR QUE VEJO NESTE VIDIO ONDE FAÇO O COMENTÁRIOS, E SE POSSIVEL FOR , TAMBÉM GOSTARIA DE SABER QUAL E O DIÂMETRO DA MESMA. OBSERVO QUE SUAS AFIAÇOES , SÃO MUITO LEVES ENTRE A FERRAMENTA E A PEDRA DE AFIAR, POR ESTE MOTIVO, GOSTARIA DE TER MAIS CONHECIMENTO DESTA FERRAMENTA ( ESFERA DISCO OU PEDRA DE AFIAR ), NÃO SEI COMO VOCES A CHAMAM POR AI. __ SEM MAIS AGUARDO VOSSO RETORNO, SE POSSIVEL FOR. OBRIGADO RODOLFO G FANTIM.
That's how you done'it training and should be splayed 🖐️🙌 and future customer service works great good that's how you do it yourself not quickly soluble slowly.
Wood turning tools work better if the ratio of the bevel to thickness of the tool is 2.5 times the thickness not 1.5. All a 1.5 ratio facilitates is a wheel that is too small.
The "one to one and a half" suggested in the video referred to the ratio of the bevel length to half the thickness of the skew chisel. One and a half gives a bevel angle of 18.5 degrees on both sides, so an included angle at the cutting edge of 37 degrees. This is slightly less than most experts suggest, so I think your comment goes contrary to most advice out there. 2.5 times is good for a single-sided tool such as a gouge but not a skew.
Very few sparks with a CBN wheel. Further, they don't require dressing or shatter shields. They don't overheat your chisels and they last a very long time
CBN grinding wheel uses Cubic Boron Nitride, or CBN, as its grinding material. Cubic Boron Nitride is considered a super abrasive. As the name suggests, super abrasives are stronger than normal abrasives like Aluminum Oxide and Silicon Carbide.
This seems to be a commercial for their product. I thought this would show me how to sharpen my tools. I know, with enough money, many things become easier. How much does it cost to sharpen a chisel?
Crowstooth It’s certainly a video produced with those who bought their tools in mind. This video is absolutely applicable to other makes of tools, shops which likely have their own videos for sharpening as well. You aren’t going to find much difference. At some point you may want to deviate on the angle you grind at - a skew can be ground at a different angle which is more suited to a harder or softer wood for example. Gouges can be ground for more particular purposes. This video was a good intro to sharpening, particularly if you happen to use the Wolverine system.
C&S do not provide Tormek sharpening instructions for their products. It would take a day for them to develop these instructions. At the prices they charge, perhaps someone over there could get off the chair and get this project done.
a regular grinder will work just as good! they didn't have hale of the crap back in the 70s hes displaying today! back then it was the grinder and a metal file
this is the promotion of an overly expensive grinder made by people who don't even know how to sharpen their tools; youtube seems full of posers these days
It seems that you’re only using one side of the grinder. When do you use the 80 grit and when do you use the 180 grit.
Wonderful tutorial. Thanks for demystifying tool sharpening. I’m having a heck of a time sharpening mine and they really need it.
Thank you Sir, great tutorial, well explained , without time wasting .
This is the exact video I’ve been looking for. I’ve been using carbides for three years (don’t judge 🤣) but just got my CBN wheel setup. I’m going to practice on my cheap Harbor Freight set, and then go for some high quality tools. Thanks for the instructional video!
Forgive my ignorance, but I thought most turners wanted to get to carbide blades. I read they were sharper longer and held a great cut. Is that not the case?
Just got myself a lathe (with some blunt tools thrown in)! A helpful, informative and clearly spoken demonstration, thankyou. Barry from England
Awesome tutorial !!! It really helped to see it so straight forward and clear. David your knowledge and experience are appreciated and so helpful , Hope to see more from you sir!!!
Nicely done.
This video was easy to understand and very well presented. Thank you Mr. Carter.
Are you using the 80 grit or the 180 grit in this video
Great video! Thanks for so many useful tips!!! People who CAN teach and you certainly CAN teach - thank you again - so much!
you know of all the sharpening videos I don't think I had seen anyone say to check your angle with the grinder off. great video!
Definitely a great tip.
That piece of machinery looks amazing! You can SEE the build quality. I need one!
What beautiful gouges. Very professional. However, I have not long since started turning. I have spent all my money on a very simple lathe and gouges. I have nearly half a tonne of Cheryl, Douglas Fir, Holly and Lime sitting outside out side my newly built workshop unprocessed. I didn't appreciate how expensive setting up would be. And I am almost broke, my savings have been destroyed. So I can't afford such a beautiful sharpening station.
So it drives me wild when I see a professional giving instruction on such machinery. So can you please make a video on how to make a station with more commonly available tools like a belt sander, bits of wood etc? Not beyond us mere mortals.
I have almost 20 Sorby gouges which are mutilated as they were bought second hand. How do you reset gouges like that? They are actually dangerous. I have two broken tool rests which is quite an achievement.
I look forward to your reply. Kindest regards James Findlay
Your video describes how to resharpen a skew. So are we to assume, like you did that all skews were previously ground at the correct angle?
Excellent video
I cannot afford buying the CBN wheels in Brazil and importing is a costly nightmare. I noticed you are using the vari-grind attachment. Would you please share the setting (notch) used to get those beautiful swept back grind chisel?
Thanks for your teaching and demonstration.
Awesome! Thank you so much for posting this. I have been having a devil of a time sharpening my tools. This should make it much more accurate.
If you need a quick reference guide to sharpening each type of lathe tool this is IT! It is also great if you are a turning beginner. The name/use for each tool is noted on screen. I was given a huge box of top quality tools from yesteryear, & I hope I can get my tool edges to look like those in the video.
+Linnea Simonalle Thank you! We're glad you enjoyed the video. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us. Happy turning!
Very nice guide and beautiful looking tools
That is a top notch grinder/sharpener - cannot go wrong with it.
Thank you sir for sharing this knowledge. Respect super like and subscribed. I just got a lathe and all my research here shows me I need to know how to sharpen my tools. I am so thankful I came across your video as I am on a budget. I do want to ask what base that is to adjust for the right angle of grinding and the best all around and correct wheel for grinding them.
Wow, fantastic machine. I'm sure it's out of my price range though. Thanks for sharing it.
good God almighty! Just getting into turning and yes way above my price range!
Excellent lesson on sharpening. Thanks 👍👏👏👏😃
Very nice David, but you don't say which grit you are using to sharpen with, or what speed? Leaves us a bit guessing......
I used to look down on using a jig, and always sharpened free hand with a nice grinder like the one you have, but now I have a harbor freight grinder and the tool rest is so flimsy, and the wheel is narrow.its really hard to get a good grind these days.a jig will help.
great video! Thanks for taking the time to make it and post it on UA-cam. much appreciated.
Tebal grinding bird wheels this is lost
Nice grinder, and only $1,300.00 dollars.
Just for reference, I lucked out and picked up a four wheel grinder, on an iron frame, off craigslist for $200.00. I swapped the 240 VAC motor for an industrial sewing machine motor ($200.00) and I can control the speeds to from 0 to 2,500 RPM.
Now that I've been using the beast for a few years, I see the whole thing could be built using 2x's or an angle iron frame, some pillow blocks and pulleys for twice the machine at about 1/3 the price. Of course, the two CBN wheels brought the price up nearly four hundred, but they've proven to be a great investment too.
All that aside, great video.
Good tutorial.
Very nice, and what a fine "stone".
I am used to my tools grinded freehand, keeping sharpness as long as possible with a fine stone, a leather strap and polish-paste. The tool has changing "better" parts while the wood provides its own characteristics. And then it is me with changing moods and gestures!
Yall make some awesome looking tools. Hope to one day get to try some out
Thanks, for showing how & sharing that, happy new year
i have a 300grit CBN Wheel and I am trying to getting my edge back on my Carter 5/8" bowl gauge with aluminum handle.... I changed the standard grind to a swept back winged at 50 angle Can you give me some suggestion to bring back a better edge....
Good video! Are the stones on your grinder ceramic? Stay healthy my friend.
CBN wheels. CBN grinding wheel uses Cubic Boron Nitride, or CBN, as its grinding material. Cubic Boron Nitride is considered a super abrasive. As the name suggests, super abrasives are stronger than normal abrasives like Aluminum Oxide and Silicon Carbide.
very interesting tips - thanks from Brazil
buckmetta :Hola
What grind angle do you recommend for your spindle gouges, David?
23 degree angle
Did either of you find a guide book for the recommend angles of each tool? I just acquired a lathe and a box of dull tools.
What speed setting is being used?
Very nice video. Many thanks.
What speed is the wheel spinning at? It looks pretty slow.
This was a beutifull explanation, thankyou.
Is there a video on sharpening the Mahoney wood beater?
Great question Darrell, although we don’t have it in this video. It is ground very similar to a traditional 50° bowl gouge. The only difference is the main grind angle is at a more aggressive 40°. If you’re using the one-way system, your protrusion out of your jig is still 2 inches and your jig angle is still 23°. If you have additional questions, our details sharpening guide can be found on our website for free and we’re happy to help with sharpening questions over the phone or email! Happy turning!
@@Carterandsontoolworks I have the “Savannah Pro Grind” system. I will try to get angles correct as I love the gouge and really don’t want to mess up the original grind! 😁😁😁
Ty ftom a newbie to lathe turning .much appreciated
Thank you mr. Carter for that info, I've been searching for a sharpening video and I could never find one but I found one!. How does a poor man afford a grinder like that? Is there an easier way for poor man to grind his wood lathe tools without that expensive grinder and jig? Thanks anyway
Thank you! That really helps
Great instruction! Thank you from a beginner 🤗
So, different tools require different angles ?
I'm confused by your statement that correct angle for sharpening the skew is 1 to 1 1/2 times the thickness of the steel tool. How does 1 to 1 1/2 times 3/8 equal an angle?
Hi Mark, thank you for your question. The length of the angle should be 1 to 1-1/2 times the thickness. For example, our tool is 3/8" thick, so the length of the angle should be between .375 and .562. (Our math is .375 times 1 and .375 times 1.5). Thanks again, and happy turning!
Thank you for the quick reply. If I understand you correctly you are referring to the distance from the beginning of the bevel to the tip of the cutting edge, is that correct?
Mark, that is correct! Happy turning.
Carter and Son Toolworks Thanks!
@@Carterandsontoolworks The length of the grind, not the angle.
Thanks for that brief overview. it is most helpful to this Kiwi
So glad you enjoyed it, Ray. Happy turning!
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thanks for the video, it is helpful
I'm headed to Harbor Freight to get me one of these grinders.
Show......muito obrigado pela demonstração e as dicas.
That was superb!
Thanks for helping me and nice
Jolly good show old chap.
Good tips to try on my $50 grinder lol.
I'm hoping to get much better results than you on my $79 grinder!! That's a massive $29 difference in fine sharpening quality!
I'm using my $25 Harbor Freight grinder I bought in a garage sale.
Fancy pants the lot of you.....
I've got a rock...4 hours of rubbing and i've taken a bit of marker off....
Sehr gut vorgezeigt Carter!!!
Tiroler Drechsler
Never had any experience, when I got my lathe.
Had quite a few moments where I thought I was about to be impaled.
But what about now?
Should I de-burr all the rounded turning tools after grinding? Thank you
+Sam Knight If you feel like it, but I never do. Unless your using a scraper the burr will just fall off as soon as you start cutting wood.
Buy a Sorby ProEdge Plus for better results and massive time savings. It sharpens bench, framing, carving, and turning chisels, drill bits, plane irons, knives, garden tools, axes, hatchets, machetes, lawn mower blades, and almost anything else you want to put a stellar edge on.
That grinder is impressive. Mine tries to run out of the shed every time I turn it on
Beautiful tools
ok but what about the sad sap like me whos grinder is the one his work was throwing out
So that is the Wolverine jig?
Muito bom seu vídeo. Parabéns.
Awesome info!
When sharpening the spindle gouge you set the tip of the chisel at 2 inches. BUT, you didn't specify at what distance to set the V-jig from the wheel thus making the 2 inch setting a moot point.
He actually did show how to set the jig. Using the Raptor jig setting guides will do that for you.
is their need for going to i much finer grit, thank you so much, a relief angle, the correct term or the primary cutting edge, people call it secondary now, the secondary is cut first and of cource primary relief is cut second so the whole terminology got all twisted around. i like real terminology for this trade
Moria from emerdal
Watis thes steel
Not on the face of a bench grinder unless you wanna ruin your tools and have a fragile concave "hollow grind"... Hollow grinds are fragile and dull quickly... Get a flat stone or use the side of the wheel so you're using a flat surface to sharpen instead of a convex profile
Thanks for this video!
Thank you! Helpful.
BOM DIA SR DAVID CARTER, É COM MUITO PRAZER QUE VENHO ACOMPANHANDO SEUS VIDIOS, SEM COMENTAR.
MUITO PRAZER EM CONHECE-LO, POIS SOU BRASILEIRO, MORO NA CIDADE DE JAU / ESTADO DE SÃO PAULO.
___ COMO TAMBÉM PRATICO UM POUCO DE TORNEARIA, E GOSTARIA DE ADQUIRIR UM ( ESMERIL ) , NOVO , GOSTARIA DE SABER DE VOSSA SENHORIA, COMO DEVO CHAMAR ESTA PEDRA DE AFIAR QUE VEJO NESTE VIDIO ONDE FAÇO O COMENTÁRIOS, E SE POSSIVEL FOR , TAMBÉM GOSTARIA DE SABER QUAL E O DIÂMETRO DA MESMA.
OBSERVO QUE SUAS AFIAÇOES , SÃO MUITO LEVES ENTRE A FERRAMENTA E A PEDRA DE AFIAR, POR ESTE MOTIVO, GOSTARIA DE TER MAIS CONHECIMENTO DESTA FERRAMENTA ( ESFERA DISCO OU PEDRA DE AFIAR ), NÃO SEI COMO VOCES A CHAMAM POR AI.
__ SEM MAIS AGUARDO VOSSO RETORNO, SE POSSIVEL FOR.
OBRIGADO
RODOLFO G FANTIM.
very good
That's how you done'it training and should be splayed 🖐️🙌 and future customer service works great good that's how you do it yourself not quickly soluble slowly.
What type of wheel are you using?
+Lonnie McCown we use CBN wheels.
Is there any alternative way to sharpen tools
beside that machine , since other viewers don’t have it
Very good!!
Wood turning tools work better if the ratio of the bevel to thickness of the tool is 2.5 times the thickness not 1.5. All a 1.5 ratio facilitates is a wheel that is too small.
The "one to one and a half" suggested in the video referred to the ratio of the bevel length to half the thickness of the skew chisel. One and a half gives a bevel angle of 18.5 degrees on both sides, so an included angle at the cutting edge of 37 degrees. This is slightly less than most experts suggest, so I think your comment goes contrary to most advice out there. 2.5 times is good for a single-sided tool such as a gouge but not a skew.
Hi.
what's #number your diamond wheel?
beautifl job
ramble on and
Got one of bowl gouge
Great 👍
That sharpening is worth more than my lathe.
Why no sparks?
Very few sparks with a CBN wheel. Further, they don't require dressing or shatter shields. They don't overheat your chisels and they last a very long time
CBN grinding wheel uses Cubic Boron Nitride, or CBN, as its grinding material. Cubic Boron Nitride is considered a super abrasive. As the name suggests, super abrasives are stronger than normal abrasives like Aluminum Oxide and Silicon Carbide.
This seems to be a commercial for their product. I thought this would show me how to sharpen my tools. I know, with enough money, many things become easier. How much does it cost to sharpen a chisel?
Crowstooth It’s certainly a video produced with those who bought their tools in mind. This video is absolutely applicable to other makes of tools, shops which likely have their own videos for sharpening as well. You aren’t going to find much difference.
At some point you may want to deviate on the angle you grind at - a skew can be ground at a different angle which is more suited to a harder or softer wood for example. Gouges can be ground for more particular purposes.
This video was a good intro to sharpening, particularly if you happen to use the Wolverine system.
superba bijuterie
C&S do not provide Tormek sharpening instructions for their products. It would take a day for them to develop these instructions. At the prices they charge, perhaps someone over there could get off the chair and get this project done.
Sharpening jig for wood turning
I sharpen mine with sandpaper
Yes back to basics and it works fine.
Spelling ‘gouge’ isn’t difficult - just spell it as I have, and as you did on the second attempt.
Did you say 50 degrees
Yes, our 5/8" bowl gouge is ground at a 50º angle.
Awesome, for people who can afford a $2,500 grinder.
Yea, it is expensive toy for the adults.
Bowl gouge concave wings...
So it’s hopeless without a jig
No, not really hopeless. I think David clearly demonstrated how to sharpen without using the jig.
👍✌️
perfeckt
Need
Oh crap! That’s right, I don’t own a $1,000.00 grinder with $400.00 diamond grinding wheels. Don’t really learn much here....blah blah blah
I can just imagine how expensive that grinding machine is...
a regular grinder will work just as good! they didn't have hale of the crap back in the 70s hes displaying today! back then it was the grinder and a metal file
Can NOT even BUY one !!
Used car in my book !!😔
Crap
this is the promotion of an overly expensive grinder made by people who don't even know how to sharpen their tools; youtube seems full of posers these days