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Thank you, I'm new to turning/sharpening and this video is a perfect mix of comprehensive and concise. Much easier to understand the Wolverine jig now!
I just set up my Vari Grind jig and am concerned that my gouge cutting edge seems to have what I might call “micro serrations” or a slightly jagged edge. After watching the video, I see something similar at 2:03 in your video. Is this something I should be concerned about?
The serrated edge will be determined by the grit of your grinding wheel. We typically recommend a 46-80 grit wheel for rough shaping, and a 180 grit or higher for your final grind. What grit wheel are you using?
@ I was using 180 grit CBN and just touching up an existing swept back grind. Since I just started using the the Wolverine system, I assumed I was doing something wrong or that perhaps there was vibration causing it. Then I saw the close-up I mentioned at around 2:03 in your video and saw a similar micro serration and wondered if that is just normal. I switched to the Wolverine from the Sorby Proedge because I was having a hard time with swept back grinds, but have never seen that micro serration.
On the the One Way jig, there is a set up for the angle. Where should that be set to set up a bowl gouge?? Right now I have it in the midele but my chisel doesn't look like your>
Very useful and informative. Will the sharpening jig work with any grinder, or is there something special that is required? Also, you didn't mention the grit of the wheels. What grit wheel should I use. Thanks.
It would have been useful if told the angle of the leg, not just the distance from the wheel (which is what the raptor gives). The wolverine jig has 3 adjustments (2 if you always keep the same projection distance). So instead of repeating several times the same thing (how to adjust the projection, take light touch), give the important information please (the other required adjustment)!
The leg angle is 23 degrees. Here is a link to the instructions with a scale print out of the jig so you can set it correctly: woodturnerscatalog.com/cdn/shop/files/raptor_8308b824-d97d-4b7e-a3f2-903abc65b9a9.pdf?v=11204919490037770949
It's a Norton 8" Grinding Wheel, but we'd actually recommend using a 180 grit CBN Wheel for general tool sharpening. Here's a link with a video you can watch. www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/97/7073/KJR-8-Inch-Spartan-CBN-Sharpening-Wheel
Mark Zaricor Set the control arm to 23 degrees and never move it again. We actually weld them at 23 degrees in our workshop program. Remember to use the 45 degree Raptor set-up tool on the spindle gouge and the 50 degree on the bowl gouge.
Question: If the jig is welded, doesn’t that limit the flexibility to have different grinds on like tools? Example: Two 3/8” spindle gouges. One with a fingernail grind. The other with a “pointed” detail grind for finials and tight details. I’m new to this and confused. Mark needs a class in Utah! 😎
I have the raptor tools and my leg angle is at 23 degrees but I still have the hardest problem when I grind to get the wings concave,,,normally they come out convex,,can you help me,,
Won't all the tool positions be the same length? When you push it against the bench and tighten it, if the length is 2 inches from the bench to the end it'll be the same for everything
Peter Keith Great question. Heres a link to our instructional document showing you how to set up your vari-grind jig to 23 degrees. www.woodturnerscatalog.com/docs/raptor.pdf
+Trevor Ambrico You'll typically use a coarse wheel for metal removal and a finer wheel for final sharpening. We recommend a 46 grit Norton 3X on one side of the grinder and a 400 grit Super Fine CBN on the other.
I generally use a wet stone (oil or water) to sharpen my lathe knives and that works adequately. I've used the same oil stone for about 40 years. Looking at them recently, they're flat, not round. I assume there's a reason for that. Using a grinding wheel to sharpen lathe knives makes no sense (unless you plan to use the side of the wheel). That would grind in a concave shape to the knives' tips. Sure, you can get a very sharp edge, but you've lost some metal that you did not have to sacrifice in order to get that sharper edge and with it being thinner, they will get dull faster than the same sharp edge you could get by using a wet stone. Using a grinding wheel is way to aggressive and is a good way to quickly ruin a previously adequate knife. Using a belt-disc sander makes more sense and the exact angle can be set, if that's really important, by using any cheap, digital angle finder. A razor-sharp edge is not necessary and it will stay that sharp for only seconds after using it. After all, you are shaving wood, not your face.
"you dont need to spend a lot of money to get great results.....We just used a wolvering grinding jig,a wolverine vari grind and a raptor setup" are you kidding me? If that is not a lot of money then what is your expensive mark? For a professional that does make money out of woodturning,thats nothing! but for a hobyist its a lot!
So my math was this: A $100 grinder, a $90 wolverine, a $53 varigrind. Comes in at $243 + tax. That is the price of only 2 Carter and Sons tools. Now compare that to a Tormek where the base machine with no jigs is $700. Add the jigs for turning and it was over $1k. Or a Sorby pro-Edge where the base machine is $549. Honestly turning isn't for the cheap... Lathe, tools, chucks, sand paper, finish etc... it all adds up. But for me at under $250 the Wolverine setup is indeed cheaper than many other options.
sure! yes I admire that,but there always ways that can you do it with something you made! alla those epxensive and high quality you mentioned above is targeted to professionals that make a living out of woodturning,for someone like me and probably you who are hobbysists and woodturnign enthusiasts,its a bit expensive,just for comparison,my lathe costs 250 euros,and that seems expensive to me,also,I live in Greece and if I ordered the wolverine jig from amazon,it would be about 60$ the things I ordered,plus 20$ for shipping! and its frustrating knowing that in America you have such great brands and local companies,and here in Greece everything is imported,especially lathes and lathe tools (its a rarity here,only few people are interested in woodturning)
I'm with you Teo. Nice video and all but that setup looks out of control expensive, but did give me some decent ideas for fabbing my own version. I spent $45 on my bench grinder and $50 on my lathe(with tools) so I've got $5 left for steel to fab a jig.
That CBN grinding wheel is not cheap either, about $180 to $220 depending on the supplier. What bothers me is that looking at the after grind photos I see that the edges are very rough. I assume that they were using a 60 or 80 grit wheel. A better way is to buy a Harbor Freight four inch belt/ six inch wheel sander and change the grit to 100 for the initial grind on the wheel. The table will tilt to the right angle which you can verify with a protractor. Finish the tool using a 400 grit and your tool will be very sharp. Cost of the sander with a coupon is about $60 to $75 dollars, and you still have another multiple use tool.
And don't buy a vari grind 2, utter garbage. There is no good instruction set or information for it. Even oneway only references the vari grind 1 in all of their info. More expensive for an inferior product that no one uses successfully
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Thank you for a good idea!👍
I just need to get the dude in the video to sharpen my tools. That guy knows how to get and edge!
Excellent video! It was simple, very informative and presented will. Thank you!
Thank you, I'm new to turning/sharpening and this video is a perfect mix of comprehensive and concise. Much easier to understand the Wolverine jig now!
You're welcome. It's a great system that's always done the job right.
Thanks for the video. It was very useful.
Thanks for the instructions - very useful.
You never mention where to set the jig that holds the cutting tool (what notch?).
That is the vari grind jig and I was wondering which notch too! Anyone have an answer?
@@HairySand look at the woodturnerscatalog, they have a diagram of the setting for each grind, you down load it and set your jig to that angle.
Very nice! Thank you! I like woodturning too!
Very informative brother thanks
I just set up my Vari Grind jig and am concerned that my gouge cutting edge seems to have what I might call “micro serrations” or a slightly jagged edge. After watching the video, I see something similar at 2:03 in your video. Is this something I should be concerned about?
The serrated edge will be determined by the grit of your grinding wheel. We typically recommend a 46-80 grit wheel for rough shaping, and a 180 grit or higher for your final grind. What grit wheel are you using?
@ I was using 180 grit CBN and just touching up an existing swept back grind. Since I just started using the the Wolverine system, I assumed I was doing something wrong or that perhaps there was vibration causing it. Then I saw the close-up I mentioned at around 2:03 in your video and saw a similar micro serration and wondered if that is just normal. I switched to the Wolverine from the Sorby Proedge because I was having a hard time with swept back grinds, but have never seen that micro serration.
On the the One Way jig, there is a set up for the angle. Where should that be set to set up a bowl gouge?? Right now I have it in the midele but my chisel doesn't look like your>
On the video you did not talk about the angle on the Oneway Vari-Grind Jig. for the bowl and spindle gouge section.
We set the leg angle to 23 degrees.
Can you tell us beginners what type of wheel you are using and what speed is best for the wheel to turn?
Thank you like to see more like this.
Very useful and informative. Will the sharpening jig work with any grinder, or is there something special that is required? Also, you didn't mention the grit of the wheels. What grit wheel should I use.
Thanks.
Отлично! Но подобных приспособлений не купить, как и подобных дисков...Буду делать сам и точить на тех, что есть..Это не принципиально....😁👍
Why not show 23 degrees in the video, would have saved a lot of questions
What sharpening stones are suggested for the grinder?
Excellent
Thanks
Excellent! Thank you!
You’re very welcome :)
Can i Know thé price for angle tools you make for sharping lathe knife
Que buen vídeo felicitaciones
Why do the stones turn toward and not away?
Could you use the bevel side for pocket knives?
It would have been useful if told the angle of the leg, not just the distance from the wheel (which is what the raptor gives). The wolverine jig has 3 adjustments (2 if you always keep the same projection distance). So instead of repeating several times the same thing (how to adjust the projection, take light touch), give the important information please (the other required adjustment)!
The leg angle is 23 degrees. Here is a link to the instructions with a scale print out of the jig so you can set it correctly: woodturnerscatalog.com/cdn/shop/files/raptor_8308b824-d97d-4b7e-a3f2-903abc65b9a9.pdf?v=11204919490037770949
Will it work with a 6 inch grinder?
Is an 8 inch wheel the best size for sharpening. Is it ok to use smaller wheels?
What type of wheel is used in this video, grit, etc?
It's a Norton 8" Grinding Wheel, but we'd actually recommend using a 180 grit CBN Wheel for general tool sharpening. Here's a link with a video you can watch. www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/97/7073/KJR-8-Inch-Spartan-CBN-Sharpening-Wheel
Thanks!
Great video! I do have one question: what setting do you use on the vari-grind jig when sharpening spindle and bowl gouges? Thanks!
Mark Zaricor Set the control arm to 23 degrees and never move it again. We actually weld them at 23 degrees in our workshop program. Remember to use the 45 degree Raptor set-up tool on the spindle gouge and the 50 degree on the bowl gouge.
Question:
If the jig is welded, doesn’t that limit the flexibility to have different grinds on like tools?
Example:
Two 3/8” spindle gouges. One with a fingernail grind. The other with a “pointed” detail grind for finials and tight details.
I’m new to this and confused.
Mark needs a class in Utah! 😎
Hello, good morning.
I wonder about this is that Emery made this one is thicker than the other which would be the name of this stone
this video was sponsored in part by: the 2 inch raptor grinding jig
:)
just freehanded some gouges today, worked great but hard to do the hollow gouge
I am wondering what grit CBN wheel to get ....
Please call us at 1-800-551-8876 and we'll help you identify which grit you'll need. Thanks
I love wood
they dont tell where to set the angle on the vari-grind jig???
Sorry for any confusion. Set the Vari-grind to 23°. Her'es a link on proper set-up. www.woodturnerscatalog.com/docs/raptor.pdf
Very informative, but your close-ups are too close up! I want to see where and how the tool handle is resting on/in.
I have the raptor tools and my leg angle is at 23 degrees but I still have the hardest problem when I grind to get the wings concave,,,normally they come out convex,,can you help me,,
Please call us at 1-800-551-8876 and we'll help you out
Won't all the tool positions be the same length? When you push it against the bench and tighten it, if the length is 2 inches from the bench to the end it'll be the same for everything
How do you find the 23 degrees angle on the vari-grind control arm?
Peter Keith Great question. Heres a link to our instructional document showing you how to set up your vari-grind jig to 23 degrees. www.woodturnerscatalog.com/docs/raptor.pdf
What grit do you recommend for the wheel?
+Trevor Ambrico You'll typically use a coarse wheel for metal removal and a finer wheel for final sharpening. We recommend a 46 grit Norton 3X on one side of the grinder and a 400 grit Super Fine CBN on the other.
Trevor Ambrico e
I generally use a wet stone (oil or water) to sharpen my lathe knives and that works adequately. I've used the same oil stone for about 40 years. Looking at them recently, they're flat, not round. I assume there's a reason for that.
Using a grinding wheel to sharpen lathe knives makes no sense (unless you plan to use the side of the wheel). That would grind in a concave shape to the knives' tips. Sure, you can get a very sharp edge, but you've lost some metal that you did not have to sacrifice in order to get that sharper edge and with it being thinner, they will get dull faster than the same sharp edge you could get by using a wet stone. Using a grinding wheel is way to aggressive and is a good way to quickly ruin a previously adequate knife. Using a belt-disc sander makes more sense and the exact angle can be set, if that's really important, by using any cheap, digital angle finder. A razor-sharp edge is not necessary and it will stay that sharp for only seconds after using it. After all, you are shaving wood, not your face.
"you dont need to spend a lot of money to get great results.....We just used a wolvering grinding jig,a wolverine vari grind and a raptor setup" are you kidding me? If that is not a lot of money then what is your expensive mark? For a professional that does make money out of woodturning,thats nothing! but for a hobyist its a lot!
So my math was this: A $100 grinder, a $90 wolverine, a $53 varigrind. Comes in at $243 + tax. That is the price of only 2 Carter and Sons tools. Now compare that to a Tormek where the base machine with no jigs is $700. Add the jigs for turning and it was over $1k. Or a Sorby pro-Edge where the base machine is $549. Honestly turning isn't for the cheap... Lathe, tools, chucks, sand paper, finish etc... it all adds up. But for me at under $250 the Wolverine setup is indeed cheaper than many other options.
sure! yes I admire that,but there always ways that can you do it with something you made! alla those epxensive and high quality you mentioned above is targeted to professionals that make a living out of woodturning,for someone like me and probably you who are hobbysists and woodturnign enthusiasts,its a bit expensive,just for comparison,my lathe costs 250 euros,and that seems expensive to me,also,I live in Greece and if I ordered the wolverine jig from amazon,it would be about 60$ the things I ordered,plus 20$ for shipping! and its frustrating knowing that in America you have such great brands and local companies,and here in Greece everything is imported,especially lathes and lathe tools (its a rarity here,only few people are interested in woodturning)
I'm with you Teo. Nice video and all but that setup looks out of control expensive, but did give me some decent ideas for fabbing my own version. I spent $45 on my bench grinder and $50 on my lathe(with tools) so I've got $5 left for steel to fab a jig.
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NICE! well I had to buy a new lathe,and so for me its 275 euros total with the cheap tools that I bought,I alreday had a bench grinder
That CBN grinding wheel is not cheap either, about $180 to $220 depending on the supplier. What bothers me is that looking at the after grind photos I see that the edges are very rough. I assume that they were using a 60 or 80 grit wheel. A better way is to buy a Harbor Freight four inch belt/ six inch wheel sander and change the grit to 100 for the initial grind on the wheel. The table will tilt to the right angle which you can verify with a protractor. Finish the tool using a 400 grit and your tool will be very sharp. Cost of the sander with a coupon is about $60 to $75 dollars, and you still have another multiple use tool.
That extra fine raptor cbn nowhere to be found.
Here's a link to the 320 grit Raptor CBN: www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/97/7521/raptor-8%22-CBN-Sharpening-Wheel
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And don't buy a vari grind 2, utter garbage. There is no good instruction set or information for it. Even oneway only references the vari grind 1 in all of their info. More expensive for an inferior product that no one uses successfully