Evolution Of Animation At The Oscars | CARTOON EVOLUTION
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- CARTOON EVOLUTION'S CARTOON HISTORIES #1
Though it hasn’t always been recognised - or treated fairly - animation has had a long and storied history at the Academy Awards. From big wins, to big snubs, to big controversies - here’s a brief history of Animation at the Oscars… in this edition of Cartoon Evolution’s Cartoon Histories.
ANIMATION MEDIA
Felix the Cat - Flim Flam Films
Mickey Mouse - Steamboat Willie / Mickey’s Orphans
Walt Disney's Silly Symphony - Flowers and Trees
Merry Melodies - It’s Got Me Again
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Fantasia
George Pal’s Pupetoon - The Gay Knighties / Jasper Tell
Pinocchio
Dumbo
Fleisher Studios’ Gulliver’s Travels
A Boy Named Charlie Brown
Don Bluth’s An American Tail
Happy Harmonies - The Milky Way
Pluto - Lend a Paw
Tom and Jerry - The Yankee Doodle Mouse / Cat Concerto
Song of the South
So Dear to My HeartAnchors Aweigh
Mary Poppins
UPA - Rooty Toot Tot / The Man on the Flying Trapeze / Gerald McBoing Boing / When Magoo Flew / Magoo’s Puddle Jumper
Moonbird by John and Faith Hubley
Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day / The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Ernest Pintoff - The Critic (Mel Brooks)
Fred Wolf - The Box
It’s Tough to Be a Bird (Disney)
Gene Deitch - Munro
Zagreb Film - Erstatz (Surogat)
Richard Williams’ A Christmas Carol
Bob Gardiner and Will Vinton - Closed Mondays
Jimmy Picker - Sundae in New York
Avatar
A Christmas Carol (2009)
Beauty and the beast
Toy Story
Creature Comforts
Wallace and Gromit - The Wrong Trousers / A Close Shave / A Grand Day Out / Curse of the Were Rabbit
Atlantis: The Lost Empire
Monsters Inc.
Lilo and StitchSpirited Away
La Maison en Petits Cubes (The House of Small Cubes)
Rango
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Paperman
Feast
Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio
Marcel the Shell with Shoes On
Rob Lowe Dances with Snow White
OTHER MEDIA
Wings
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
The Last Command
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It's interesting how much the Academy used to respect animation. Not as much as live-action films, but still It's a shame that animation has been considered nothing more as a genre for kids by the academy for a while, and especially recently. I think what Guillermo del Toro said after Winning for his version of Pinocchio sums up the truth best.
What the hell is wrong with people thinking animated movies are only for kids?! Many anime is meant for adults!
@@lizebotha8783 that’s absolutely not true. There’s a a ton of anime that’s specifically targeted to just children. In fact one could argue there’s way more. That being said neither one is solely a “kids” mediam. That’s unfortunately the result of public misconceptions. I suspect it’s changing soon at least for anime.
@@lizebotha8783 the problem is that people tend to respect the medium less. Adults choose avoid animation altogether if they think it’s just for kids
@@lizebotha8783 I have to disagree. Although yes there are plenty of anime made with kids in mind in my experience it seems that most anime actually is meant for adults. Or at the very least meant to be enjoyed by both. Japan and other countries around the world respect animation alot more than the U.S. does and doesn't just see it as something just for children. I honestly feel almost offended that those ladies at the end of the video were talking down so much about animated movies, and I'm not even that passionate about animated films. I can't imagine how hurt the actual animators must have felt. The U.S. needs to change this mindset like yesterday.
Hopefully it’s win and Del Toro’s speech will go down as a real eye-opener.
There should be an Academy Awards hosted entirely by animated characters
I really miss the animated characters appearing when Best Animated Feature was presented.
We could really use the same sort of thing they did in 2002 where we saw Shrek and Donkey, Jimmy and Goddard and Mike and Sully in the audience.
That would be a strain on the animators' wrists
That would be so fun to watch but it would take a long time to do in itself and I don't think a year is enough time LOL
There have been before. Mickey and Bugs both had their animated hands in presenting awards. I still remember Steve Martin announcing Mickey as "America's favorite black actor" or something to that extent.
Animation deserves more respect after everything that happened last year with Netflix & HBO Max canning dozens of upcoming anticipated projects in development.
Very interesting and insightful. A shame how cartoons and animations have been treated over the years. Even though I don't care much about Oscars (or any award show) it's a really good video as usual.
This is a great video and I love animation like puss in boots the last wish and spider-man into the spider-verse!
This isn’t fair! Not to only animation, but to the animators themselves who work hard to make them. Each type of animation is difficult and takes time to make and the Oscar’s are treating it as it’s just something for kids?!! I’ll say it loud and proud, ANIMATION IS NOT JUST FOR KIDS!!!!! Animation was watched by everyone since the old days before they would play a cartoon short before a theatrical movie and they were targeted for general audiences. Now, rated G is extinct and everything has to be childish and lighthearted to appear more to children. What happened to good stories with characters you can relate to, meaningful plots and significant messages? It’s all about oh the animation looks good and so it gets an award but not the story itself? That was my problem with disneys frozen. It had good animation but the story itself isn’t that well constructed and appealing. It needed more things to tell since there were so many plot holes to it, and the villain twist felt forced because they wanted a main antagonist in the end at the last minute, when Elsa could have worked originally and then redeem herself in the end since she was capable of doing that. And another thing to add is that just because it’s a Disney movie doesn’t mean it should always win the Oscar because there are movies that are non Disney that have good stories. It’s like the academy awards don’t care anymore and that’s sad.
Generally, animation should not be treated as kids genre. Animation is art and it has been a part of an amazing effect of cinema since the dawn of time. Regardless, people should see it as a work of art, not treat it is something for kids and kids only. That’s the point I’m trying to prove. Not only the Oscar’s but every award show should take note of that.
How I wish I can put those that think animation is for children into forcing them to watch Ghost in the Shell and Perfect Blue with their children. Let them explain the coupious amount of graphic violence and sexual content to them and see if they still insist that animated films are for kids only.
Stop motion deserves so much credit. The amount of time it takes to do it is insurmountable. I am so happy Guillermo Del Toro won best animated feature for Pinocchio. He deserved it 100% and his speech about animation should be a wake up call to the Academy about how important animation is as an art form. Great video Dave. Really enjoy your commentary so much. 😊❤❤
The fact that the first winner of Best Animated Feature wasn’t Disney but instead a meme Shrek that’s like if Rick Astley won a Grammy for Record of the Year for Never Gonna Give You Up
Great video Dave! I had such a great time at the Oscars last night. It was so amazing that Best Animated Feature was the first to be presented, and that Del Toro’s Pinocchio won!
I'm happy that Pinocchio movie win
I can't stop thinking an award show that doesn't care about animation though it airs on a network owed by a company that is responsible for animation becoming popular IN THE FIRST PLACE
So many classic Animated films have been snubbed from the Best Picture category. Snow White, Dumbo, Cinderella, Toy Story, etc. And voice actors should be nominated for Best Acting performance too.
I think the bigger issue with these kinds of awards is that drastically different works can be pitted against each other but only one can win. Silence of the Lambs and Beauty and the Beast are both excellent movies, but how can anyone compare them? Apples and oranges doesn't even begin to cover it.
Great video, Dave. Happy to say that I've seen all the winners of the Best Animated Feature, apart from "Encanto" and del Toro's "Pinocchio". "Up" has to be the best. It's so sad, so funny, so exciting and so heart-warming. It's damn near perfect.
If you haven’t seen del Toro’s Pinocchio yet, you really should! It’s a truly a modern masterpiece.
@@benmalsky9834 Oh, I want to see it. Believe me.
The cartoons from Disney, Warner Bros., UPA, Columbia, etc. who won the Oscars not only did their best, but they are the most recognizable cartoons in the history of animation.
Guillermo del Toro said it best: Animation is Cinema! Not a genre!
Great video. I’ve actually be really interested in looking into the history of best animated shorts category so this is perfect timing.
I do have 3 Oscar news stories
Despite that oscar Walt complained that animation wasn’t considered “serious cinema” by other filmmakers & producers for Snow White to compete against live-action dramas to even get nominated for Best Picture he expected to easily win
Invasion of Iraq days before the 75th Oscars the pacifist Miyazaki had to be talked out by his lawyer from attending (despite the dedication of Lassiter & Disney to carefully distribute all the films) to avoid fallout from his anti-war boycotting like Michael Moore ended up getting that night that would manifest in Howls Moving Castle
Tron was disqualified from the 1982 SFX Oscar as the academy felt the backlit animation & cgi production was cheating at moviemaking with computers over using practical effects and walkable sets like the rest
There were so many little tidbits in this from the very beginning, it's hard to pick just one. I had no idea "Song of the South" won and that Uncle Remus was the first black male to win! I'll have to watch this a few times to soak it all in.
And, I have to say I always have & always will be a Disney kid, but I'm glad that *"Rango"* won an Oscar. I feel like it would've been more forgotten otherwise & it's one of my favorite movies.
Thank You for this one Dave! Lots of stuff in here. I know the research & editing must've been brutal.
Take Care Mate 🐒🐒
Animated characters showing up at the Academy Awards is really awesome, I even enjoy seeing my favorite characters showing up at the event, announcing the awards, or in the audience. It really makes the event much more enjoyable and exciting to watch.
I feel like this is your most important video you ever made yet
This is important and animation is just wonderful to me
Thanks, Sasha! 🙏🏻
Cartoons of the early days of film weren't just a novelty for children like they are stereotyped today. They were considered all ages entertainment and had racy humor and content for their day.
I'm very well aware how animation has been viewed over time. I have studied it extensively, as you'd know as you've followed my content for years. After the 1928 technological boom / the rise of the Disney characters and the Looney Tunes... absolutely - animation was geared towards all audiences. Prior to that? Not at all - the Felix cartoons, the Alices, the Fleischer toons... all predominantly geared towards children. There was very much a stigma in the mid-to-late 20s.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder I suppose I didn't notice the nuance of the statement. Thanks for further enlightening me.
Fun fact: did you know Bugs Bunny won an Academy Award, but a fake one looking exactly like him for showing a clip of his cartoon, “Hiawatha’s Rabbit Hunt”, in “What’s Cookin’ Doc?”? Well he actually won an Oscar in “Knighty Knighty Bugs” from John W Burton
Though That short used in What's Cookin Doc's case, it was nominated for best animated short. Talking about Hiawatha's Rabbit Hunt for the record. Interesting both that short and Bugs' only Oscar winning short was both directed by Friz Freleng.
Beauty and the Beast was what made me a movie lover in the first place in my very early years, so it really was touching for me to learn later on that it was the first animated movie to be nominated for Best Picture. I guess even if Silence of the Lambs wasn't released that same year, they probably would've given the Oscar to some other live-action movie though. They really should've created the Best Animated Film category sooner. At least in the 80s there was Don Bluth's masterpieces to compete with Disney. And in the 90s there were movies like Batman: Mask of the Phantasm or the Iron Giant that were easily in the same league as Disney's best. Yeah, I wish animation was given more respect in the media too.
On a side note, I still can't believe Bugs Bunny only won for Best Animated Short Film once out of all the classic Looney Tunes shorts he starred in throughout the 40s and 50s, and only got two nominations before that. Talk about being snubbed, though at least Bugs fared better than Daffy did. Not so unlike how like they're usually portrayed in their various on-screen pairings.
Spider-verse is my favourite best animated picture. It really should have been nominated for best picture and honestly should have won
I love the animation of the oscars and this is a honor for animation dave so this is a great video so I hope next month will be a cartoon evolution of super mario dave! ❤👍🏆🥰
Gotta love animation history.
For me personally I think The Lion King and Zootopia should have won best animated picture
Can't wait to see more Cartoon Histories videos
Nice one Dave, and Pinocchio by Guillermo del Doro was a well deserved win
Oh Oscar! Your my true beloved! ❤
-Bugs
Ooo interesting.
Thanks for the information dave lee down under 👍👍👍👍👍👍
You have great information dave and I hope that there'll be a cartoon evolution video of super mario.
Another notable "first and only" Academy Award Animation winner was for 1964's "The Pink Phink." Not only was this the very first animated "Pink Panther" short film, but it was also the very first short film by the newly formed animation studio of "DePatie-Freleng Enterprises," the studio being formed by former Warner Bros. animation producers/writers/directors David DePatie and Friz Freleng.
I love 💕 animation at the Oscar’s.
I love animation as well like song of the south and shrek is the best to win a award for best animated feature!
Well, well, well. Looks like you've struck gold with this great video. I've always been intrigued by Hollywood's animation history. From the funny pages, to radio programs, to theatrical shorts, right through TV and smartphones! Always fun learning new things.
One fun fact that always makes me crack up is that due to the now defunct Best Animated Short Subject category, 2 animation directors actually hold the title of most Oscar wins. Yup, not John Ford, Alfred Hitchcock, or even Steven Spielberg. Ladies and gentlemen, give you Bill Hannah and Joseph Barbera!
I forgot to say that puss in boots the last wish would have won a oscar because that movie has the best animation dave.
Animation should be more appreciated as an art form
Congrats to all the nominees. 🎉
Congratulations to all nominees for their best. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🎉🎉🎉🎊
We should have an award for voice actors in animated pictures. Its about time!!!
I love animation and shrek is best to win a oscar so I know animation will get better in the future dave so I hope super mario will be next month's cartoon evolution!
Let’s see a Wallace and Gromit Cartoon Evolution for their 35th Anniversary in 2024!
Cartoons should be recognized for its art form in cinema history since it isn’t as easy to make as live action and it’s a shame they got less awards after Pixar’s cars 2
Excellent video, Dave
"Animation is not a genre". Well said, Mr. Del Toro
Animation, alongside horror, superhero, sci-fi, and blockbusters, hardly get nominated outside of their own category these days because the Oscars always favor biopics, musicals, and movies about making movies.
I think he man should have won a Oscar for secret of the sword that was totally a great animated movie it totally went under the radar!
Nice video Dave 👍👍👍
I wish they had animated presenters again
You know, with this year's Oscars honoring Warner Brothers 100 yrs....they left out the Loony Tunes, whats an injustice
In terms of anime, I find it way unfair, that a bunch of their works aren't even considered for the awards. Nominating something like "The Boss Baby" in favor to the absolutely amazing "A Silent Voice" is still baffling to this day.
And that's not even the most insulting thing, the 2015 Oscars snubbed The Lego Movie from getting that nomination, and one of the people who voted in Big Hero 6 to win said "I watched what my kid like instead of those fucking Chinese cartoons" referring to The Tale of the Princess Kaguya and Song of the Sea, neither of which were made in China
I find it interesting how history has repeated itself in terms of how the Academy treats animation now compared to the beginning.
They should make a New Award Show Exclusive to Animation.
Aka John Misconduct
I'm surprised that there isn't an awards show dedicated to just animation like the bet awards for black excellence and the sports awards or the glad awards for LGBTs or the video game awards or the adult film awards yet since the academy and sag are so biased and undercut the noms for the animated films
There is, it’s called the Annie Awards
i love this cartoon history :)
20:50 - I would've gone up there on stage and slapped Amy Schumer just like Will Smith did for disrespecting animation like that.
21:00 - HOWEVER, I also would've called Halle Bailey, Naomi Scott and Lily James hypocrites since they we're portraying their live action counterparts of their respective animated Disney princesses, but since all three actresses we're forced to read those lines on a teleprompter, I'm not going be too harsh on them. But again, that's still a disrespectful thing to say about animation.
I was on the other hand *SHOCKED* at this year's Academy Awards, to hear Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, of all people, give animation the praise and respect it as the medium it is. And kudos to Del Toro's Pinocchio for the win.
That is all.
How were they"forced" to read lines from a teleprompter? Were they held at gunpoint or something?
Beavis and butthead do America should have been nominated
This man needs an oscar
I love Beauty and the Beast. The stunning visuals, the beautiful story, the strong message that it sends... all just amazing! The songs are gold!
A movie that should've received more attention was The Mitchells vs The Machines. It was so quirky, funny, and unconventional, and I think it was just really underappreciated.
I really liked Kubo and the Two Strings. I didn't know that it had won for Best Visual Effects, until now. I'm surprised that no one really talks about it. It's also pretty underrated and unconventional.
The Princess and the Frog deserves more attention. It kind of got lost in the shuffle of CGI movies. It's such a beautiful story. Just like Beauty and the Beast, it's about how love can affect change.
Mr. del Toro was right. Animation is cinema, and it deserves more respect. To merely define as "just for children" really undermines it. Animation is for everyone.
Oh, and by the way, there really should be a Best Voice Actor category. Just saying.
It'd be funny to have a movie category like "Best live-action film"
There's is one from 1999 animated academy award short film bunny directed by chris wedge
Couple interesting footnotes:
The first "best animated short" awards weren't even oscar statues but were paper certificates that you can see Walt Disney standing with at 1:46 (the statue he has in that photo was an honorary oscar for the creation of Mickey) Later in the decade they were replaced by plaques, then ultimately the normal oscar statues in the 40s
Now Disney was quite upset that Snow White wasn't given consideration for Best Picture, in fact the film got no recognition in its year of competition. That famous 7 dwarf honorary oscar wasn't given until 1939, a full year later
So interesting
if they did a oscars where animated characters were appearing at the ceremony
then the academy would realize, that animation is for everyone
pretty much any random cartoon character could be a good presenter
I'm hoping I'll still be around when Oscars has best voice acting category. I haven't yet seen the film, 'Loving Vincent' I think it was nominated at the Oscars...the concept of painting each frame is incredible. My favorite winner is probably "Spirited Away".
"It's the only studio Ghibli movie to win the award". Not anymore!
What’s your favorite Academy Award winning animated movie of all time?
Here are some options;
Shrek (2001)
Spirited Away (2002)
Finding Nemo (2003)
The Incredibles (2004)
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)
Happy Feet (2006)
Ratatouille (2007)
WALL-E (2008)
Up (2009)
Toy Story 3 (2010)
Rango (2011)
Brave (2012)
Frozen (2013)
Big Hero 6 (2014)
Inside Out (2015)
Zootopia (2016)
Coco (2017)
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
Toy Story 4 (2019)
Soul (2020)
Encanto (2021)
Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio (2022)
I cannot believe you didn’t mention, not only the first non American nominated cartoon “the romance of transportation in Canada”🇨🇦(a must watch, I highly recommend it) but also the first back to back to back win from also the National Film board of Canada in 1977-79☹️.
American films only. Sorry.
@@RespectTheLogos3 ) Aardman
While I don't like Wreck it Ralph as much as I used, that should've won the Oscar for Best Animated Feature over Brave
Dave lee uuh so interesting
I still firmly believe that Klaus should've won over Toy Story 4 😤
of these cartoons
Dave do a video about good burgers coming back for a sequel and how it could be a good or a bad thing
8:04 Mary Poppins was released in 1964 not 1966 and won five Academy Awards at The Oscars in 1965
intresting facts
I heard that they also disqualified Tron from getting a nomination for visual effects because it "cheated" by using computers.
Honestly, it is very tiring how elitist the academy is, specially when it comes to animation
Hey dude! A new DreamWorks movie is gonna be here! Ruby Gillman Teenage Kraken! With a new spin on Krakens! Be hyped! And review it, when it comes out! The movie of all time! Don't forget!
Hope it isn't a Box office bomb, as I feel, that some of you won't like it... Plz don't hate it...
I'm actually going to school to get my bachelor's degree in both 2d and 3d animation starting in August and I dream to bring back the respect of animation to past and new generations moving forward. I study a lot of old animation cells from as far back as the 1940s and have created dozens of characters to share with the world
Love to hear this, Jayden! All the best wishes in your journey!
@@DaveLeeDownUnder thanks so much, keep up the great work
I'm particularly shocked by the fact that no VA has ever won an award in an acting category
Not too shocking that a VA wouldn’t win, given various stigmas seemingly attached. To voice acting in Hollywood… what’s probably the most shocking is that no one has even been NOMINATED. There are dozens of animated performances at least worthy of a nomination … Robin Williams as the Genie is an enormous snub in particular.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder I see your Robin Williams and I raise you a Jeremy Irons as Scar! But, with Williams alone, you can feel how much the Academy disregards animation
Yep, another terrific choice! Dozens and dozens of worthy performances. That Mel Blanc alone did not even get any kind of special Oscar is particularly shocking.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder Definitely, at least a honorary award was deserved, he was The Man of a Thousand Voices for a reason
Great
Trust me, Rango deserved that one.
Attaboy, Dave!
Would you Kindly, gave Animation Movies more Respect and gave them fair Oscars
How are they gonna deny Apollo 10 1/2 even though they nominated Loving Vincent, another film that used rotoscoping
Yeah, beats the hell outta me.
Where's the Droopy vocal evolution?
There won’t be one
@@DaveLeeDownUnder How come? Heck in general, why did the Vocal Evolutions stop after the one for Huckleberry Hound?
I’m not sure they stopped in general after Huckleberry Hound… I’ve always been selective of which characters get Voice Evolutions and which ones don’t. If you look back at my videos, you’ll see that not every character has one. I decide on a case-by-case basis - depending how long the character has been around, how many vocal artists they’ve actually had, and (most importantly) how well the original video performs. Voice Evolutions, usually, only get a fraction of the views of the regular video… in the case of Huck (my least viewed Cartoon Evolution ever) it was simply not viable to spend the time making a Voice Evolution which would likely perform pretty poorly.
You have to understand this is my livelihood and how I pay my bills - at the end of the day, the videos I choose to do are ultimately business decisions. I have to prioritise content that will perform and keep me paid. Additionally, I’m a one man team, and there’s only so much time in a month. Sometimes I just simply can’t find the time. I DO hope to one day revisit him, though!
You k ow i was especting this to be to be longer
Not sure why you'd expect it to be any longer, or what else I'd need to cover? If it had been any longer, you'd be waiting longer for it. 20 minutes seems almost too long as it is.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder you it be the oscars and animation i was sorta thinking detail history on how the oscars treat animation over the year the good the bad the scumyness you know
I mean, I pretty much touched on most of it... I don't know how much more in-depth I needed to go.
I wanted luxo jr. to get a oscar!
Spiderman Across the Spider-verse Part One or the Super Mario Bros Movie has to Win 🏆 an Academy or Oscar Award for the Best Animated Feature of 2023
Spirited Away came in 2001 the same year as Shrek.
Spirited Away’s international / Western release was in 2002, making it eligible as a 2002 release at the 2003 Academy Awards.
Remember when you did side-by-side for Pinocchio? Please do the same for Peter Pan (and Wendy)
Yes I remember, I’ve done it for a number of the live-action features. Problem with Peter Pan and Wendy is that so much of it is “new” ie. doesn’t exist in the original film, that it’s too difficult to put anything together.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder Then, at least Little Mermaid is similar.
If I had the time, I would. I was too busy trying to finish this video for release. It's too late now as others have already done it. I also need to get to work on the next big video.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder ok
Can anyone agree with me that we should started are own version of the academy but for animation and yeah it be more entertaining than the actual Oscars
Can you do a Cartoon saloon video?
Isao Takahata's The Tale of the Princess Kaguya should have won in 2015. Instead the very mediocre Big Hero 6 won which was bulls**t.
Favorite Best Animated Feature winner: Spirited Away
Favorite Best Animated Short winner: Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day
By the way, if anybody has a way to watch the 1945 Columbia short Rippling Romance please let me know. It's the only film ever nominated for Best Animated Short I haven't seen.
Cartoon evolution for Scrappy Doo
I covered him in the Scooby Doo video, literally nothing else to say on him.
Do a cartoon evolution of garfield alvin and the chipmunks pink panther the smurfs snagglepuss quick draw mcgraw and augie doggie and doggie daddy
Can you please do Mario voice evolution?
Flee or Mitchells vs Machines should of won BAF last year, I was so pissed off on the comments on animation being for kids, and Encanto did not deserve to win because of how it won.
While I do agree that animation is a medium for people of all ages, I still think Encanto deserved the win it got last year.
@@ashtonlee3365 The only reason why Encanto was super popular was because of that Bruno song and a lot of the people who voted for Encanto where parents who voted based on what their kids liked. Encanto was a good film, but Mitchels and Flee were just better (critically speaking).
this is so funny