doodh pilanay say hurmat qaim ho jati hai. doodh pilanay wali k bachon say shadi nahi ho sakti. kisi ghair mard k sperm kisi orat main dal ker bachay paida karo to us say hurmat qaim nahi ho gi kia? surrogate mother ki to koi identity nahi hoti. jab k doodh pilanay wali ka pata hota hai. ghamidi kuch aqal karo.
😱😱😱😱یہ سچ ہے کہ طبیعت پہ شاق گزرنے والی بات ہے. بہت دل گردہ ہے غامدی صاحب آپ کا بہت اطمینان سے اپنی بات کہہ دیتے ہیں حالانکہ سننے والوں کی حالت میری طرح مضطرب ہو رہی ہوگی
said gamdi sahab ka bhi itna qosor nahe wo wohi btaty han jo hmary log sunna chaty han ruksatay lena chaty han deen kay ma.lat par is ley anko wah wah kar rahy han jitny wo is fatway ko deny kay zmu dar han itny hi wah wah kar kay kush hony waly log bhi
ما شا اللہ ۔ کیا ہی پیارا اور دلنشین انداز ہے غامدی صاحب کا ۔ ان کی گفتگو گھنٹوں بھی سنتے رہیں تو دلچسپی کم نہیں ہوتی۔ بہت زیادہ علم و حکمت اور فکر سے نوازا ہے اللہ تعالیٰ نے ان کی ذات کو۔
Very good explanation and the best part is that the presenter asks the same question that in your mind. They plan the discussion in a very professional way. Alhamdullah
Ghamdi shaib is logical for those who believes that islam needs reforms. Adn Interpretation of islam from traditional arabic Philosophies and scholars is wrong because the best way to understand islam is interpret islamic texts from European Philosophies otherwise you are wrong....
About Professor Javed Ahmed Ghamidi, I not only believe that there is no scholar of his stature profundity of religious thought and precision of its understanding and lucidity of his articulation in the Muslim word, but I also believe that I have yet to see anybody more profound just and humane than Professor Javed Ahmed Ghamidi sahib, when it comes to commentary on social issues including human rights. (MAY HIS SEED PROSPER GOD WILLING)
غامدی صاحب اور مرحُوم ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب یہ دو واحد سکالر ہیں میری زندگی کہ جنکے ہر بیان میں دل و ایمان سے سُنتی ہوں بہترین دلائل بغیر کسی ادنی سے شُبہ کے۔ اللہ کی رحمتوں میں رہیں آمین🤲
He is just sharing his opinion, not forcing or enforcing the Islamic jurisprudence. Very important subject for Muslim world, more debates should have been done on this subject, people like me having 5 daughters & no baby boy need more knowledge about Surrogacy. Not having a baby boy has a social issue of million of Muslim families, people looking for second & third marriage, even though they did not get male gender.
For chosing gender u only need to go for test tube baby (which is simply mixing hzband's male sperm wd wife egg on plate n then placing back into wife wimb ). Test tube baby is halal.....no need for surrogacy... Bt bigger question is if chosing gender is halal? Besides science clearly says that male ness can b inherited only from male... female cannot have information to make male..... so it's ur hzband 90%responsible not u.
Gender of baby is not dependent on female as she has both xx chromomes while male has xy chromosome. Even if u surrogate or do 2 3 4 marriage there is no role of female wrt gender of baby. It depends on male chromomes at the time of fertilization both x and y have possiblity to fertilize the female x chromosome.
GG (Great Ghamidi). Teacher of teachers. Hero of heroes. Ocean of knowledge. The best philosopher, theologian, educationist, researcher, critical thinker, Mujaddid-e-Islam. Love you Ustad-e-Mohtaram.
@@sylerpetralie Dear brother printing press was also declared anti islamic by the then so called ullema.But nowadays life is impossible without printing.
Mr. Ghamdi's argument of "izterar" is not acceptable on this topic, rather it looks foolish. "Izterar" is a situation where a life is at stake and is in real real danger. Saving life becomes more important even if the person had to eat pork or meat of dead and that also of a minimum quantity just to avoid disaster. Surrogating a womb to get a child can't be considered that urgency of an ultimate magnitude. In my opinion, Mr. Ghamdi must refrain from commenting on such topics if he does not fully understand the meaning of "Izterar".
Breastfeeding by another woman is allowed even without being life at stake. It's common in arabs for women to hire other women for breastfeeding since over 1400 years, the breasts are also awrah and they are hired even without stake of life, the same case applies here and the other woman is considered a surrogate mother with all associated relationships as mehrams as in case of breastfeeding mother.
And u shud not comment if u hav incomplete knowledge of medical science. Don't take hope awy from peppl who r shown a way of light from Allah. He hz the one to show us cure to many types of infertlities.
Im simply speechless... masha Allah Ghmadi sahab is a man of wisdom... i agree totally totally sir.. God bless you... we always want such amazing scholars around us... this topic was so close to my heart... i am very very thankful for making it so clear...
Irrelevant SIMILARITY in between TWO DISTINCT DOMAINS .. TRANSMISSION of BLOOD from one BODY to ANOTHER .. VS .. TRANSMISSION of REPRODUCTIVE ELEMENTS from one BODY to ANOTHER .. !!
Allah Pak apne fazal se Naik sehatmand ulad aata kare humain aur sab Muslims ko Allah unnatural tareqe se bachaye n plzzz pray for me Allah mujhe Naik sahle ulad se nawaz de plzzzzxxx
From printing press to loud speaker?, now surrogacy, western education forced you think, Ghamdi saheb is genius, wish him very very best.Cupping was sunnah, transfusion not halal, funny logic.
The debate discounted the psychological trauma of surrogate mother, this situation is ethically unacceptable and legally falls into the category of GBH. The analysis done was really sad.
ایک عورت جب دو سال ایک ننھے سے بچے کو دودھ پلائے گی اور پال پوس کر بڑا کرے گی تب بھی اُس عورت کی اُس بچے سے جذباتی وابستگی بن جائے گی۔ جب وہ بچہ اپنی حقیقی ماں کو لوٹایا جائے گا تو دودھ پلانے والی عورت کے جذبات مجروح ہونگے۔ اسی لیئے اللہ نے اس عورت کو رضاعی ماں کا درجہ دے کر اُسکی فضیلت اور حق قائم کیا ہے۔ غامدی صاحب کے مطابق یہی اصول ادھر بھی اختیار کیا جا سکتا ہے۔
برطانوی قانون کے مطابق سروگیسی جائز تو ہے لیکن قانون کی نظر میں ماں اُسی کو تصور کیا جائے گا جس نے بچہ پیدا کیا۔ اگر سروگیٹ ماں بچے کو پاس رکھنا چاہے اور نان نفقہ طلب کرے تو برطانوی قانون سروگیٹ ماں ہی کو حقیقی ماں مانے گا اور اُسکا حق دلائے گا۔ اس معاملے میں برطانوی قانون کسی معاہدے کو کوئی حیثیت نہیں دیتا۔ یعنی اگر کسی عورت سے آپ نے معاہدہ کیا کے بچہ پیدا کرنے کے بعد بچہ ہمارا اور معاوضہ آپکا۔۔۔ لیکن بچہ پیدا کرنے کے بعد عورت معاہدے سے مکر گئی اور بچہ دینے سے انکار کر دیا تو قانون کی نظر میں ایسے کسی معاہدے کی کوئی حیثیت نہیں۔ اس عورت کو ہی حقیقی ماں مانا جائے گا۔
غامدی صاحب زمانے کی کروٹ سے آپ کی رائے بھی بدل سکتی ہے۔ اس معاملہ میں غامدی صاحب نے بغیر دلیل کے صرف سابقہ دعاوں کو گواہ بنا کر اپنی رائے کو مدلل بنانے کی ناکام کوشش کی۔ انسانی زندگی کی بقاء اور وجود دونوں کو الگ رکھنا ہو گا۔ اللہ پاک ہم سب کو اور غامدی صاحب کی رہنمائی فرمائے۔
In certain husband wife when one's wife cannot retain pregnancy n deliver baby with medication also they can avail the womb of another woman with their Semen n egg as in test tube baby for delivery of their child with restrictions n safe guards as already explained by javid Ahmed ghamdi
Sir thank you so much for talking openly about such taboo topics and presenting a clear stance. Just a quick question: Do you think the method of surrogacy would be applicable in the case where the wife doesn't have any issue with child birth but still doesn't want to bear the burden of pregnancy or the complications after that?
Mashallah Good Explanation, like many ulema said exploring to moon is Haraam in Islam should not have explore even though Allah has mentioned in Quran weather you explore in space or on earth without my concsent you will not be able to do so ulema is always wrong
Assalam o alaikum . If a surrogate mother is given the status of a foster (razai) mother, no family will rent a womb for their baby. I respect Ghamdi but I am not with him on this issue. Surrogacy not only destroys the family system but also brings some basic violations. For example, the surrogate is never considered as a mother. After giving birth, she does not know where is the baby. In most cases, the family who pays for surrogacy does not want to have any contact with the surrogate. In another case, when a person can have his baby from a surrogate, he does not need to get married, or the family does not need to give birth to their kids because they can pay for surrogacy. The most important thing I would consider is that surrogacy cannot be compared with the transfer of organs. This is like comparing potatoes and bananas.
ALLAH Jisay chahay batay deta h or Jisay chahay betiyan deta h or jisay chahay dono nhi deta . so Kyo US ki Zaat pr tawakkul na kreyn .... itnay un natural process ki TRF janay ki kya zroorat h ...agr wo Zikriya A.S ko borhapay me olaad de skta h to hr Kisi ko JB chahay nawaz de .... Momin to sabr or shukr ki kafiyat k dosra naam h
There are young ladies who unfortunately have congenital malformations including absence of uterus like MRKH syndrome with intact ovaries, surrogacy is a valid option for them to be a mother
jab kisi waja say koi cheez nahi milti to haram tareeqa to nahi apnaya jata. koi ghareeb hai us k pass paisay nahi to kia woh daka dalay? koi student nalaiq hai to kia us ko naqal ya sifarish kerni chaye?
Kindly mery questions ha iss per bhi address kery .Allah ny 4 shadio ky ijjazt bhi to di ha ham pahly iss ky taraf kuy nahi jatty .kaya kissi larki ki bahan or admmi ki bahan ky liy iss kam ko choose ker shakty ha
I don't know much about Fiqhi But being a Biologist I also agree with Ghamdi Sir...... surrogacy ma b parents tu wohi hungi jink gametes hungy... surrogate mother just ak system provide krti nothing else..... our scholars needs to know about biology background more to clearly guide us about this
So the baby can marry the surrogate mother? Science isn’t always the answer. From pure biology and scientific aspect, can you please confirm whether Hazrat Marryam was a surrogate mother or real mother of Hazrat Isa? Science and Faith is not always interchangeable. Let’s not twist the words. Allah Knows the Best.
@@FawadBilgrami Jesus’s birth was a whole different matter. There are four different kinds of human creations. Adam, Eve, Jesus and the rest of the humanity.
Sir,News has been recieved that a baby has been delivered from an embryo frozen 27 years ago...Your comment will be most appriciated...Also,What is Your Ijtehad on Sperm Banking..This is different from Surrogacy.
Ghamidi sb iss ijtehad pr nazr sani krni paray gi iss muamlay mai insan k bnai hoay usool o mubadi say bala tar ho kr kisi rai ka isbat krnay ki zarorat hai
There are lots of things that seem to be halal but they are haram in Islam. Surrogation IMPOV should be haram in Islam because not every woman can be chosen as a surrogate mother e.g. putting protoplasm of the male into his sister or mother's vice versa womb etc. There are lots of restrictions in Islam so why chose surrogation when one can have 4 wives as explained by one of the commentators.
it is not always about the man, the man wanting a child. The world is not about only men. A woman can also want a child of her own. Secondly for your information, over 50% of causes of infertility is also in men, 30% in women, 20% unknown. You can look up the stats. So should a wife divorce his husband if his husband is infertile as many men do and don't even go for their own testing? And Islam never allowed 4 marriages for the sake of the pleasure of men but to help widows and divorcees who have nowhere else to go. Traditional molvies have made Islam so difficult for the wife and even husbands although the concept of surrogacy is over 1400 years old as in the case of breastfeeding, the men never had to marry those women who breastfed their children. Even healthy mothers hired other women for breastfeeding. This was and is still a standard practice in Arabs allowed by Islam and the exact same concept applies here.
People like you are always looking for a second third and fourth woman... It was allowed just to support widowed women but just to satisfy their lust they started practicing second marriage... God says that one can't deliver justice in case of two or more wives.. moreover medical science says that 50 percent males have defect but males don't believe it...
@@OppoF-hv9liI'm not a specialist on the subject but please don't mix culture/personal emotion in understanding the teaching of Islam. Infertility is just a defect in either males or females. There should be no problem for a fertile woman in taking divorce from her infertile husband and vice versa in the religion of Islam. Similarly, why do you get depressed if 4 fertile women (either single or widows) are happy with their one infertile man? In Islam, even male-dominant trans are allowed to marry with female-dominant trans. IMPOV it should be equivalent to Zina if the ovum of one woman is put into another woman OR putting the sperm of a man into a woman with whom he is not allowed to marry in Islam. To me, there is no difference between wearing a condom during intercourse or using a syringes/ baby tube. Please explain with reference if I am wrong.
EEK. If sperm of a Man is transferred to another women ( not wife), u can claim it zinna. But tube baby ( made with wife ‘s egg)is a complete baby formed in initial stages.lf tranferred to other women’s womb, then it just need a place to grow.lt can’t be claimed as zinna n should be allowed.Many women with uterus problems can be benefited from it..of course, this topic needs time to be discussed more.
Aakhir ma Jo bat hui ussy saaf zahir ha Mard or Orat k nikah k elawah olad Ka huna najaiz ha to phr kaisy kici teesry gair ko qasdan shamil Kr k jaiz huga
Jawab diya gya, ky os zamany my tareeqa Zina tha. Tho sir agr aaj tareeqa bdl gya tho Kiya aml jayez hogayega. Certainly not. Besides is ayat my tareeqy ka tho koi zikar ni.
Allah ne zina se he mana kia hay, aulad paida krne se nahi jab ke lufta b apna hay. Jiski aulad nahi uska dard samajhna chahye. Jab breastfeeding ke liye aik maa ko kraye pe lia ja skta hay tu iske liye b lia ja sakta hay.
There are two types of surrogacies. One is called traditional and other is gestational. In traditional ( not traditional in Islam) the egg comes from the surrogate mother herself and the sperm from an individual or sperm bank. Here the surrogate mother IS the biological mother of the baby. This method is used by homosexual couples and single men or women. Obviously this is Haram in Islam. In gestational type the surrogate mother just carries the baby to full term . Egg and sperm are fertilized OUTSIDE ( IVF/ test tube) before being implanted in the womb of the surrogate mother. This is done with in few hours. Surrogate mother does NOT pass any of her own DNA to the baby and so she is NOT the biological mother of the child. Seems this doesn’t go against any stipulations of Islam and technically should be Halal. Not much different from a nursing foster mother. One should be cognizant to the psycho social aspect of the surrogate mother that they are not taken advantage of the process. Allah knows best.
میں نے غامدی صاحب کے متعلق چند اشخاص سے ان کی بڑی بڑی غیر تقلیدی باتیں کو سنی مگر جب خود کے کانوں سے براہ راست سن رہا ہوں تو ان میں ایک مجتہدانہ سوچ محسوس ہوتی ہے
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This is so misleading by Ghamdi. What Ghamdi is saying is against Quran. Quran says: "Tumhari biwia tumhari kheti hein" Surah Baqarah Verse 223. Quran is so specific on this, that is, only a wife can bare a child.
This is totally misleading and incorrect and.. In surrogacy three people are involved in child birth which is totally immoral. IVF is different. This man I used to respect has lost my respect.
A lump (mixture of a sperm of husband and ovum of wife) may be placed in the womb of another woman for surrogacy purpose as the ultimate goal of a step mother is nurturing a child either outside her womb or inside her womb - But I have a question Can we say aforementioned lump before putting it into the womb of surrogate mother a CHILD/BABY if yes then the foregoing subject or living being has a also spirit (Roh). Being a living being, he or she has the right to fight for his/her rights such choosing a best place for green pasture, abortion etc .
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Masha Allah very nice and fruitfull explanation by Ghamdi sahib.
May God bless him with healthy long life. Aamin
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doodh pilanay say hurmat qaim ho jati hai. doodh pilanay wali k bachon say shadi nahi ho sakti. kisi ghair mard k sperm kisi orat main dal ker bachay paida karo to us say hurmat qaim nahi ho gi kia? surrogate mother ki to koi identity nahi hoti. jab k doodh pilanay wali ka pata hota hai. ghamidi kuch aqal karo.
😱😱😱😱یہ سچ ہے کہ طبیعت پہ شاق گزرنے والی بات ہے.
بہت دل گردہ ہے غامدی صاحب آپ کا بہت اطمینان سے اپنی بات کہہ دیتے ہیں حالانکہ سننے والوں کی حالت میری طرح مضطرب ہو رہی ہوگی
said gamdi sahab ka bhi itna qosor nahe wo wohi btaty han jo hmary log sunna chaty han ruksatay lena chaty han deen kay ma.lat par is ley anko wah wah kar rahy han jitny wo is fatway ko deny kay zmu dar han itny hi wah wah kar kay kush hony waly log bhi
Kahan say aaye ga aap jesa koi aur ... khush rahein ❤ ... ماشاء اللہ
ڈھونڈوں گے ملکوں ملکوں ملنے کے نہیں نایاب ہیں ہم
Yehi to hotey hyn an mol heeray. Great javed Ahmed ghamdi .
You are absolutely right
ما شا اللہ ۔ کیا ہی پیارا اور دلنشین انداز ہے غامدی صاحب کا ۔ ان کی گفتگو گھنٹوں بھی سنتے رہیں تو دلچسپی کم نہیں ہوتی۔ بہت زیادہ علم و حکمت اور فکر سے نوازا ہے اللہ تعالیٰ نے ان کی ذات کو۔
True
سبحان اللہ... آپ اس صدی کے بہترین انسان ہیں. اللہ آپکو لمبی عمر عطا فرمائے.
How can someone arrange their words so smoothly.sir you have the most fluent way of talking that I have ever seen in my life ...khush rahai ap
Legend. May God protect him and bestow him long healthy life
Very good explanation and the best part is that the presenter asks the same question that in your mind. They plan the discussion in a very professional way. Alhamdullah
Amazing, such a nice way of explanation, Amaal ka daromadar niyat pay hai, ap mazhab ko itna asan bna k samjhaty hain, bht bhtereen
I totally agree with this Sheikh. May Allah guide us to that which is right and forgive our shortcomings.
Greatest and only scholar in Pakistan. Ma sha Allah.
غامدی صاحب نے کتنے ہی خوبصورت انداز میں بلاواسطہ قرآن اور نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے احکامات کا انکار کردیا۔
A sensible conversation with a religious scholar ! But not easy to express in Pakistan .
Kyun k yeh ghalat hain
Ghamdi shaib is logical for those who believes that islam needs reforms. Adn Interpretation of islam from traditional arabic Philosophies and scholars is wrong because the best way to understand islam is interpret islamic texts from European Philosophies otherwise you are wrong....
Such a tolerant scholar. This is a way to discuss things.
Wahhhhh Ghamidi sb wahhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhh ....What a deep philosophical understanding and conveying ...
اسلام میں " رحم اجارهای
" پر بہترین گفتگو۔
Greatttttr ghaaamdi sb ....
Bilkul sahi kaha ha Aap na.
About Professor Javed Ahmed Ghamidi, I not only believe that there is no scholar of his stature profundity of religious thought and precision of its understanding and lucidity of his articulation in the Muslim word, but I also believe that I have yet to see anybody more profound just and humane than Professor Javed Ahmed Ghamidi sahib, when it comes to commentary on social issues including human rights.
(MAY HIS SEED PROSPER GOD WILLING)
Yes you are right he is the only one piece in the world
The other guy was saying something about Baandi? What's baandi
I respect you Sir Ghamdi. I am a physician and you are so true.
A very clear thought process and logic.It is not only informative but also helps one think in a similar way.Thankyou
Subhan Allah what a balanced approach by Imam Ghamdi. Jazaak Allah Khair sir. May Allah grant you a healthy long life. Ameen
Jazakallah for nice explanation and mentioned about feeding (which was practiced 1400 years ago )
❤جزاک الله غامدی صاحب ❤خان احمد سراے عالمگیر ❤
غامدی صاحب اور مرحُوم ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب یہ دو واحد سکالر ہیں میری زندگی کہ جنکے ہر بیان میں دل و ایمان سے سُنتی ہوں بہترین دلائل بغیر کسی ادنی سے شُبہ کے۔ اللہ کی رحمتوں میں رہیں آمین🤲
plzplz dr israr say in ko na milaye
@@sks-fw5vk ملایا نہیں ہے اپنی پسند بتائی ہے۔ میرے کمنٹ کو ایک بار پھر پڑھیں میں اپنی پسند بتا رہی ہوں کمپئرنگ نہیں کی
Hmen to aj b ap hi ki bat smjh aati he ustad e Muhtaram Ghamdi sahb....Allah se hmesha ap ki salamti ki dua he...
He is just sharing his opinion, not forcing or enforcing the Islamic jurisprudence. Very important subject for Muslim world, more debates should have been done on this subject, people like me having 5 daughters & no baby boy need more knowledge about Surrogacy. Not having a baby boy has a social issue of million of Muslim families, people looking for second & third marriage, even though they did not get male gender.
For chosing gender u only need to go for test tube baby (which is simply mixing hzband's male sperm wd wife egg on plate n then placing back into wife wimb ). Test tube baby is halal.....no need for surrogacy...
Bt bigger question is if chosing gender is halal?
Besides science clearly says that male ness can b inherited only from male... female cannot have information to make male..... so it's ur hzband 90%responsible not u.
You should be thankful to Allah for blessing you with 5 daughters. There must be some divine wisdom that you don’t have a boy. Allah knows best.
@@habibkamal8408 Test tube baby does not guarantee you gender of the baby. There is more chance of having twins or triplets.
Gender of baby is not dependent on female as she has both xx chromomes while male has xy chromosome. Even if u surrogate or do 2 3 4 marriage there is no role of female wrt gender of baby. It depends on male chromomes at the time of fertilization both x and y have possiblity to fertilize the female x chromosome.
GG (Great Ghamidi). Teacher of teachers. Hero of heroes. Ocean of knowledge. The best philosopher, theologian, educationist, researcher, critical thinker, Mujaddid-e-Islam. Love you Ustad-e-Mohtaram.
he just allowed child trading
@@sylerpetralie Dear brother printing press was also declared anti islamic by the then so called ullema.But nowadays life is impossible without printing.
@@maliktariqahmad3117 are you comparing child trading with printing press lol
Though i don’t agree to your views on this topic but i must say hats off to your way of explanation...
Mr. Ghamdi's argument of "izterar" is not acceptable on this topic, rather it looks foolish. "Izterar" is a situation where a life is at stake and is in real real danger. Saving life becomes more important even if the person had to eat pork or meat of dead and that also of a minimum quantity just to avoid disaster. Surrogating a womb to get a child can't be considered that urgency of an ultimate magnitude.
In my opinion, Mr. Ghamdi must refrain from commenting on such topics if he does not fully understand the meaning of "Izterar".
You have completely misunderstood. Watch the video again.
Your objection is also raised at 9:50 you can hear Ghamidi sahbs response to that objection.
Breastfeeding by another woman is allowed even without being life at stake. It's common in arabs for women to hire other women for breastfeeding since over 1400 years, the breasts are also awrah and they are hired even without stake of life, the same case applies here and the other woman is considered a surrogate mother with all associated relationships as mehrams as in case of breastfeeding mother.
And u shud not comment if u hav incomplete knowledge of medical science. Don't take hope awy from peppl who r shown a way of light from Allah. He hz the one to show us cure to many types of infertlities.
We need scholars like him to change mindset
Im simply speechless... masha Allah Ghmadi sahab is a man of wisdom... i agree totally totally sir.. God bless you... we always want such amazing scholars around us... this topic was so close to my heart... i am very very thankful for making it so clear...
Kya? Bole ye sahab samaj nhi aaya ... sarogacy haram h kya halal h aur kon se condition me halal h ...plz..batae
@@uzmashaikh1194 ap Ki auolad Nahi kia ap kiun interested please explain
Halal Ghamdi Sahib ky nazdeeq
@@uzmashaikh1194 Ghamdi Sahib ky nazdeeq halal hy
Yeah with time people will accept your point of view,
Those who disagree - will you allow blood from men to women or vice versa ?
Irrelevant SIMILARITY in between TWO DISTINCT DOMAINS .. TRANSMISSION of BLOOD from one BODY to ANOTHER .. VS .. TRANSMISSION of REPRODUCTIVE ELEMENTS from one BODY to ANOTHER .. !!
Waah g waah Ghamdi sahab… ma sha Allah. You are definitely a Gem … JazakAllah
Finally after 4 years a question I asked has been replied, which is different to the initial replies I had. Thank you very much!
U asked that question?
jazak Allah thankyou for your guidence.
The great islamic scholar
Subhan Allah .. as Allah says Ulema are the to have Taqwa of Allah .. Knowledge fortified by actions and iman is the way forward. Alhamdulillah
*best
Allah Pak apne fazal se Naik sehatmand ulad aata kare humain aur sab Muslims ko Allah unnatural tareqe se bachaye n plzzz pray for me Allah mujhe Naik sahle ulad se nawaz de plzzzzxxx
Ameen
May Allah protect him.
Ghaamdi sab u r great ..
From printing press to loud speaker?, now surrogacy, western education forced you think, Ghamdi saheb is genius, wish him very very best.Cupping was sunnah, transfusion not halal, funny logic.
My daughter has blood transfusion when she was 5days old without it she wouldn’t have been survived as per dr🙏🙏🙏
Very interesting perspective 👍
JazakAllah ustaz 👍❤
The debate discounted the psychological trauma of surrogate mother, this situation is ethically unacceptable and legally falls into the category of GBH. The analysis done was really sad.
ایک عورت جب دو سال ایک ننھے سے بچے کو دودھ پلائے گی اور پال پوس کر بڑا کرے گی تب بھی اُس عورت کی اُس بچے سے جذباتی وابستگی بن جائے گی۔ جب وہ بچہ اپنی حقیقی ماں کو لوٹایا جائے گا تو دودھ پلانے والی عورت کے جذبات مجروح ہونگے۔ اسی لیئے اللہ نے اس عورت کو رضاعی ماں کا درجہ دے کر اُسکی فضیلت اور حق قائم کیا ہے۔ غامدی صاحب کے مطابق یہی اصول ادھر بھی اختیار کیا جا سکتا ہے۔
Agree.. it is shameful act
برطانوی قانون کے مطابق سروگیسی جائز تو ہے لیکن قانون کی نظر میں ماں اُسی کو تصور کیا جائے گا جس نے بچہ پیدا کیا۔ اگر سروگیٹ ماں بچے کو پاس رکھنا چاہے اور نان نفقہ طلب کرے تو برطانوی قانون سروگیٹ ماں ہی کو حقیقی ماں مانے گا اور اُسکا حق دلائے گا۔
اس معاملے میں برطانوی قانون کسی معاہدے کو کوئی حیثیت نہیں دیتا۔ یعنی اگر کسی عورت سے آپ نے معاہدہ کیا کے بچہ پیدا کرنے کے بعد بچہ ہمارا اور معاوضہ آپکا۔۔۔ لیکن بچہ پیدا کرنے کے بعد عورت معاہدے سے مکر گئی اور بچہ دینے سے انکار کر دیا تو قانون کی نظر میں ایسے کسی معاہدے کی کوئی حیثیت نہیں۔ اس عورت کو ہی حقیقی ماں مانا جائے گا۔
@@farrukhr6422 lol there is no such thing in bartanwi qanoon
Jazakallah Sir 🤲🤲🤲
غامدی صاحب زمانے کی کروٹ سے آپ کی رائے بھی بدل سکتی ہے۔ اس معاملہ میں غامدی صاحب نے بغیر دلیل کے صرف سابقہ دعاوں کو گواہ بنا کر اپنی رائے کو مدلل بنانے کی ناکام کوشش کی۔ انسانی زندگی کی بقاء اور وجود دونوں کو الگ رکھنا ہو گا۔ اللہ پاک ہم سب کو اور غامدی صاحب کی رہنمائی فرمائے۔
amen
Bilkul sahi Ameen
In certain husband wife when one's wife cannot retain pregnancy n deliver baby with medication also they can avail the womb of another woman with their Semen n egg as in test tube baby for delivery of their child with restrictions n safe guards as already explained by javid Ahmed ghamdi
Great sensible well informed Islamic scholar in true words. May Allah bless you. Ameen
You are absolutely right
Thank you so much sir so informative
May you live long. You're my inspiration and favourite personality sir ❣️
True logical answer.
Excellent
Thanks
Sir thank you so much for talking openly about such taboo topics and presenting a clear stance. Just a quick question: Do you think the method of surrogacy would be applicable in the case where the wife doesn't have any issue with child birth but still doesn't want to bear the burden of pregnancy or the complications after that?
Great scholar
Zabardas bat hy jazakAllah
Ya kuda hm sbko slaeh Omar wli aualdy dy dy amen Omar wli kair wli amen
Mashallah Good Explanation, like many ulema said exploring to moon is Haraam in Islam should not have explore even though Allah
has mentioned in Quran weather you explore in space or on earth without my concsent you will not be able to do so ulema is always wrong
He believes in a regimented religion like Islam, Buddhism, Sanatan or Christianity.......still such a rational view! Truly amazing.
Very well said Sir👍
Masha Allah
Very fruitfull explanation may God bless on Gamdi sahib with healthy long life. Aamin
Mere nazdeek qudrat k iss qanon main dakhal nhi dena chahiye ye chezz khel tamasha bn jaye gi ye gair ikhlaqai amal hai.
Assalam o alaikum
. If a surrogate mother is given the status of a foster (razai) mother, no family will rent a womb for their baby.
I respect Ghamdi but I am not with him on this issue. Surrogacy not only destroys the family system but also brings some basic violations. For example, the surrogate is never considered as a mother. After giving birth, she does not know where is the baby. In most cases, the family who pays for surrogacy does not want to have any contact with the surrogate. In another case, when a person can have his baby from a surrogate, he does not need to get married, or the family does not need to give birth to their kids because they can pay for surrogacy.
The most important thing I would consider is that surrogacy cannot be compared with the transfer of organs. This is like comparing potatoes and bananas.
Absolutely right
Great
Super
Jazakallah Jazakallah Jazakallah
Masha Allah
Softly exposing the rigid insulations and their scholars.
ALLAH Jisay chahay batay deta h or Jisay chahay betiyan deta h or jisay chahay dono nhi deta . so Kyo US ki Zaat pr tawakkul na kreyn .... itnay un natural process ki TRF janay ki kya zroorat h ...agr wo Zikriya A.S ko borhapay me olaad de skta h to hr Kisi ko JB chahay nawaz de .... Momin to sabr or shukr ki kafiyat k dosra naam h
Mashallah
Very nice 👍
There are young ladies who unfortunately have congenital malformations including absence of uterus like MRKH syndrome with intact ovaries, surrogacy is a valid option for them to be a mother
jab kisi waja say koi cheez nahi milti to haram tareeqa to nahi apnaya jata. koi ghareeb hai us k pass paisay nahi to kia woh daka dalay? koi student nalaiq hai to kia us ko naqal ya sifarish kerni chaye?
According to your logic, if you are not getting married, adultery is permissible for you, or you can marry someone temporarily by giving money.
Islam me sarrogacy haram hai ya zayez??? Please tell me..
Kindly mery questions ha iss per bhi address kery .Allah ny 4 shadio ky ijjazt bhi to di ha ham pahly iss ky taraf kuy nahi jatty .kaya kissi larki ki bahan or admmi ki bahan ky liy iss kam ko choose ker shakty ha
Thanks for for the video I have message you on this topic by messenger.
Well said 👍
I don't know much about Fiqhi But being a Biologist I also agree with Ghamdi Sir...... surrogacy ma b parents tu wohi hungi jink gametes hungy... surrogate mother just ak system provide krti nothing else..... our scholars needs to know about biology background more to clearly guide us about this
So the baby can marry the surrogate mother? Science isn’t always the answer.
From pure biology and scientific aspect, can you please confirm whether Hazrat Marryam was a surrogate mother or real mother of Hazrat Isa?
Science and Faith is not always interchangeable.
Let’s not twist the words. Allah Knows the Best.
Excellent one word explanation by you: "gametes".great!
@@FawadBilgrami Jesus’s birth was a whole different matter. There are four different kinds of human creations. Adam, Eve, Jesus and the rest of the humanity.
Sir,News has been recieved that a baby has been delivered from an embryo frozen 27 years ago...Your comment will be most appriciated...Also,What is Your Ijtehad on Sperm Banking..This is different from Surrogacy.
Paternity should b clear. And child should be from legally married husband.
Sperm bank fir ur wife is OK bt totally haram for other women
@@habibkamal8408 well explained
سوال: چھاتياں مستعار لينے سے کيا مراد ہے ؟ اور کيا سروگيسی کا عمل اجرت کے ساتھ ہو گا يا بغير اجرت کے ہو گا اور اگر اس کو تجارت بنا ليا جاۓ تو کيسا ہے۔
Kya donar egg jayz h ...agr hm hzrt maryam A.S ki example le tou meri smj m aati h k theek h
اعلیٰ
Pakistan me sorogracy konsa doctor krta he me krna chahti hu plz
Ghamidi sb iss ijtehad pr nazr sani krni paray gi iss muamlay mai insan k bnai hoay usool o mubadi say bala tar ho kr kisi rai ka isbat krnay ki zarorat hai
Islam k nazdeek Aml ka daromadar neeyat pr hay. Agar yeh baat samajh ajai tou saray confusions duur hajaen.
There are lots of things that seem to be halal but they are haram in Islam. Surrogation IMPOV should be haram in Islam because not every woman can be chosen as a surrogate mother e.g. putting protoplasm of the male into his sister or mother's vice versa womb etc. There are lots of restrictions in Islam so why chose surrogation when one can have 4 wives as explained by one of the commentators.
it is not always about the man, the man wanting a child. The world is not about only men. A woman can also want a child of her own. Secondly for your information, over 50% of causes of infertility is also in men, 30% in women, 20% unknown. You can look up the stats. So should a wife divorce his husband if his husband is infertile as many men do and don't even go for their own testing? And Islam never allowed 4 marriages for the sake of the pleasure of men but to help widows and divorcees who have nowhere else to go. Traditional molvies have made Islam so difficult for the wife and even husbands although the concept of surrogacy is over 1400 years old as in the case of breastfeeding, the men never had to marry those women who breastfed their children. Even healthy mothers hired other women for breastfeeding. This was and is still a standard practice in Arabs allowed by Islam and the exact same concept applies here.
People like you are always looking for a second third and fourth woman... It was allowed just to support widowed women but just to satisfy their lust they started practicing second marriage... God says that one can't deliver justice in case of two or more wives.. moreover medical science says that 50 percent males have defect but males don't believe it...
@@OppoF-hv9liI'm not a specialist on the subject but please don't mix culture/personal emotion in understanding the teaching of Islam. Infertility is just a defect in either males or females. There should be no problem for a fertile woman in taking divorce from her infertile husband and vice versa in the religion of Islam. Similarly, why do you get depressed if 4 fertile women (either single or widows) are happy with their one infertile man? In Islam, even male-dominant trans are allowed to marry with female-dominant trans. IMPOV it should be equivalent to Zina if the ovum of one woman is put into another woman OR putting the sperm of a man into a woman with whom he is not allowed to marry in Islam. To me, there is no difference between wearing a condom during intercourse or using a syringes/ baby tube. Please explain with reference if I am wrong.
@@ScienceadobyDrEishal well said 👏
EEK. If sperm of a Man is transferred to another women ( not wife), u can claim it zinna. But tube baby ( made with wife ‘s egg)is a complete baby formed in initial stages.lf tranferred to other women’s womb, then it just need a place to grow.lt can’t be claimed as zinna n should be allowed.Many women with uterus problems can be benefited from it..of course, this topic needs time to be discussed more.
I would be so grateful if this could be texted to english
In his perspective, Surrogacy is Okay to go with. That is the overall discussion that he briefs in this clip.
But in reality Surrogacy is not okay to go with.
Aakhir ma Jo bat hui ussy saaf zahir ha Mard or Orat k nikah k elawah olad Ka huna najaiz ha to phr kaisy kici teesry gair ko qasdan shamil Kr k jaiz huga
Jawab diya gya, ky os zamany my tareeqa Zina tha. Tho sir agr aaj tareeqa bdl gya tho Kiya aml jayez hogayega. Certainly not. Besides is ayat my tareeqy ka tho koi zikar ni.
Allah ne zina se he mana kia hay, aulad paida krne se nahi jab ke lufta b apna hay. Jiski aulad nahi uska dard samajhna chahye. Jab breastfeeding ke liye aik maa ko kraye pe lia ja skta hay tu iske liye b lia ja sakta hay.
In life saving conditions , blood transfusion and eating pork is permissible, Same thing is applied in surrogacy.
Can child born through surrogacy inherent parents property please help Allah hafiz
what is your opinion about donar egg.
There are two types of surrogacies. One is called traditional and other is gestational. In traditional ( not traditional in Islam) the egg comes from the surrogate mother herself and the sperm from an individual or sperm bank. Here the surrogate mother IS the biological mother of the baby. This method is used by homosexual couples and single men or women. Obviously this is Haram in Islam.
In gestational type the surrogate mother just carries the baby to full term . Egg and sperm are fertilized OUTSIDE ( IVF/ test tube) before being implanted in the womb of the surrogate mother. This is done with in few hours. Surrogate mother does NOT pass any of her own DNA to the baby and so she is NOT the biological mother of the child. Seems this doesn’t go against any stipulations of Islam and technically should be Halal. Not much different from a nursing foster mother. One should be cognizant to the psycho social aspect of the surrogate mother that they are not taken advantage of the process. Allah knows best.
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میں نے غامدی صاحب کے متعلق چند اشخاص سے ان کی بڑی بڑی غیر تقلیدی باتیں کو سنی مگر جب خود کے کانوں سے براہ راست سن رہا ہوں تو ان میں ایک مجتہدانہ سوچ محسوس ہوتی ہے
جیوندا رے اوئے غامدیا۔
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*ALFANWHA*
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👈 وفادار تو کتے بھی ھوتے ھیں
👈 اصحاب کہف کا کتا سب سے بڑا وفا دار تھا۔
کی محمد کی☝ اطاعت تو ھم تیرے ھیں
یہ جہاں چیز ھے کیا لوح و قلم تیرے ھیں
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This is so misleading by Ghamdi. What Ghamdi is saying is against Quran. Quran says: "Tumhari biwia tumhari kheti hein" Surah Baqarah Verse 223. Quran is so specific on this, that is, only a wife can bare a child.
This is totally misleading and incorrect and.. In surrogacy three people are involved in child birth which is totally immoral. IVF is different. This man I used to respect has lost my respect.
Assalamualaikum Kya halal surrogacy child can earn property of parents
A lump (mixture of a sperm of husband and ovum of wife) may be placed in the womb of another woman for surrogacy purpose as the ultimate goal of a step mother is nurturing a child either outside her womb or inside her womb -
But I have a question
Can we say aforementioned lump before putting it into the womb of surrogate mother a CHILD/BABY if yes then the foregoing subject or living being has a also spirit (Roh). Being a living being, he or she has the right to fight for his/her rights such choosing a best place for green pasture, abortion etc .