I'm a Bones guy for consistency sake. Meaning I can get almost any shape and hardness and I know what to expect. For Spitfire wheels I think the only really good ones are the formula four conicals. And I would never get any swirl wheels because as you experienced they just fall apart pretty quick.
Bones when I was young and dumb spitfires now, they just go honestly slide smoother flatspot WAYYYY less bones flatspot so quickly as well depending on the shape.
I have Bones v2 STF 101A and found those great, was using a standard 98A and the difference is enormous. I'm going to try some Spitfires just because I never skated those and think your video helped me choose which ones to get. A lot of people vouch for the Classics but I just don't like the shape, Tablets seems to be the ones to get. Just need to find those in 52mm. Thanks for the video.
Skated bones v3 stf 52mm my whole life. A couple months ago I bought a pair of spitfire classic conical wheels 52mm. So different company, different shape. I honestly love the bones wheels but the spitfire wheels are growing on me. Idk if it’s the switch from super slim to super wide but I kinda like the spitfires. But I’m still on bones side. No point in wasting a good pair of wheels though lol
Well it looks like I'm moving Bones STF up my list over Spitfire. For me I've been loving the OJ Keyframe Plain Janes and my kids love the OJ Mini Hot Juice and Mini Super Juice wheels as they are just cruising around more.
So torn today. My go to has always been a spitfire fan but lately I’ve been getting Bones. I found ATF all terrain formula. 56mm 80a.Filmers. They are ridiculously fast. But I can’t seem to grind anything. They catch a lot. And I just got formula 4 55mm. Tablet shaped
Great video, great energy, and presence! You could definitely interview people or talk for a living, bro. You just got that talking "it" factor. Thank you
Spitfire all day! I had bones v3 103a wheels in blue and they chipped and chunked out pretty bad and were a vary rough ride from the beginning being such hard wheels, next I tired some white spitfire conical full 99a wheels and they were better in every regard, the comfort well cruising is unmatched and the improved lock in on grinds and general stability of conical fulls is a great feeling. This skate season (Canadian) i'm about to try out some spitfire 99a tablets in the neon orange color, which is gonna be my first experience with a colored spit wheel so hopefully they hold up well, otherwise ill just go back to the white spits but every now and then I like to add some color to my setups so really hoping these neon orange tablets dont chunk out on me like my last pair of colored bones wheels did... I love me some colored wheels but as many other commenters have mentioned white wheels tend to outperform colored wheels so I typically try to avoid colored wheels but every now and then a colored wheel will catch my eye/match my setup and ive just gotta try them... hence my purchase of the neon orange tablets. Spitfire does tend to make batches of orange wheels regularly enough that im hoping they've really dialed in the orange F4 wheel formula to the point that its performance isnt that far off compared to its white wheeled counterpart... time will tell.
Never skated Formula Fours I think but I have skated tons of different spitfires, I’ve noticed white wheels are better than colors, I love STF Bones wheels they’re great for street skating, Ricta clouds are amazing for cruising
I’ve actually never owned a set of spitfires, not necessarily opposed just haven’t. If I were to try them it’d probably be radials/radial fulls as I like a wider wheel with a rounded edge. Actually just got some bones x97 56mm v6 wheels and really like them so far, too soon to review them but first impressions are good. They’re wide with rounded edge like a radial but side cut like a conical
From my experience spitfire is very consistent nowadays. They did go through a rough patch around the time this video was posted. But the last 2 years ish I've gotten nothing but great quality.
i got a pair of spitfires formula fours, 54mm 101a today and they cracked right in half from around an hour of skating. no hard core skating just riding and maybe a couple flip tricks
Spitfires are my favorite and I skate the conical full but I will skate the conical or the classic shapes but spitfire have always been my favorite because where I live the ground is super rough but if I do skate bones then ima only skate the easy streets
In my opinion I feel like it just depends what you skate more if you skate on rough asphalt or a lot of street I think bones stf are the way too go but if you just skate , skateparks and smooth ground I prefer spitfires
i have spitfire tablets white 99a and spitfire conical full normal 99a and they have very diferent uretane. Conicall full are very slippery and feel difent when u toch it( more like plastic). And tablets feel more like sand. Also have bones stf v3 103a and they feel more fast and grippy than spitfire.
Spitfire F1 99a shrink pretty evenly best to rotate don’t slide very well . F4 99d harder than F1 and seem really stable shrinking and coming much slower slide better than F1, F4 101 duro is a different story all together depending on the batch they can shrink in one session and slide like crazy or they can slide really well and keep their shape no cloning no shrinkage or very very slow shrinkage. Spitfire is not consistent with the urathanrs curing process but when they do it right it’s great , seems the only one I’ve ever noticed in my many sets is the F4 101 , the other formulas seem much more consistent , bones look feel and skate like plastic , yuck , but for my money the best wheel ever was Gold Wheel Co “white gold “ formula just before the fall of Kayo white gold wheels were 104a hard AF and a great wide patch but still classic shape soooooo good ...
Ok. So. This might not matter to anyone but apparently when snowmobile track skid sliders are colored they look cool yet wear out faster than plain white ones. The coloring definitely affects their durability. Probably even way worse durability when colors are then swirled together and it does make sense that it would.
@@iholiday4639 Maybe try out the Ricta Chrome Wide wheels, those should have a shape somewhat close to the Spitfire F4 Conical Full. From what I hear Ricta claims they are more flatspot resistent than even Formula Fours, which sounds very hard to believe to me. I've heard people say the Rictas they had wore down about as quickly as Bones do. And most people will know Bones wheels (like Easy Streets) actually do flatspot.
Damn that's insane. Normal colored formula 4s have no such problem. They don't flat spot, slide better than STFs, even the 99s provided the contact patch isn't way bigger and most of all they don't chip. STFs chip a lot, they get sliced up by just riding on asphalt. Normal color F4 are consistent, don't know what happened with the weird color ones, but just avoid colors and you'll be fine.
Been riding Spit formula 4 con. full for 3 years (1 54 set lasts me a year) unfortunately Spit as a company seems to be a piece of shit and can't keep up with sales. Oh well, can't find a size 54mm f4 anywhere on gods green earth. Buying Bones STF 54 99a V5 shape instead.
Yeah, they're all sold out here too and I'm in need of wheels for one of my boards. But it probably has more to do with high demand and the whole no-no virus situation in the world and not the company. I want either the Conical Fulls or Tablet shape ones and nothing else, so it's hard to find those indeed. I'm not going to buy 99a wheels from Bones. Too sticky and soft for what I'm riding on. They're not 99a like Spitfires would be.
Well, there's more to it. The shape matters MUCH more for locking into grinds. A small tablet shaped wheel will lock in much better than a larger slim wheel that's rounded. A flat wheel on the sides is likely to slide better, instead of stick. A larger wheel gets over cracks and bumps more easily. It will have a proportionally larger contact surface to ride on for most wheel shapes. And sometimes a bigger wider wheel will do more for comfortable smooth riding on rougher terrain than softer but smaller wheels ever could. The trade-off generally is how they are less nimble and turny and weigh more, which could affect tricks (if you'd even notice). It's actually why a 'perfect wheel' is kind of hard to find. Same goes for hardness. I'd probably recommend getting a wheel that's as hard as you can possibly get away with skating on the surfaces you ride on. But some people only have completely terrible roads, so you kind of have to go 99a wheels. Or sometimes local skateparks have super smooth slippery skatelite nonsense and you couldn't really ride a 101A or 103A wheel there without constantly slipping out.
I'm a Bones guy for consistency sake. Meaning I can get almost any shape and hardness and I know what to expect. For Spitfire wheels I think the only really good ones are the formula four conicals. And I would never get any swirl wheels because as you experienced they just fall apart pretty quick.
i have spitfire lock ins they are better than bones for me i have tried both
Spitfire wheels honestly i like and prefer spitfire
Spitfire is my go to but I do have to say wen you go skate wood/skatelite. They are slippery and I do prefer bones on skatelite only.
My local skate shop ran out of spits :(
That’s brilliant mate ... I am looking at building up a custom board ... I was wondering about wheels! Nice one 😎✌️🙏
Bones when I was young and dumb spitfires now, they just go honestly slide smoother flatspot WAYYYY less bones flatspot so quickly as well depending on the shape.
I have Bones v2 STF 101A and found those great, was using a standard 98A and the difference is enormous. I'm going to try some Spitfires just because I never skated those and think your video helped me choose which ones to get. A lot of people vouch for the Classics but I just don't like the shape, Tablets seems to be the ones to get. Just need to find those in 52mm. Thanks for the video.
I was litterally thinking of what wheels i should Buy like an hours ago , THE TIMING IS REAAAAL
I feel I can get more pop with the spits
@@troythatcher4673 what kind do you have?
This is why I subscribed to iHoliday channel
Spitfires for sure! Just because my favorite pros ride for them and the spitfire classics are some clean wheels!
Jammy Foys pro spitfires look amazing
Great video, i just started skateboarding few weeks ago and this is helpful knowledge about skateboarding
Glad I could help!
Skated bones v3 stf 52mm my whole life. A couple months ago I bought a pair of spitfire classic conical wheels 52mm. So different company, different shape. I honestly love the bones wheels but the spitfire wheels are growing on me. Idk if it’s the switch from super slim to super wide but I kinda like the spitfires. But I’m still on bones side. No point in wasting a good pair of wheels though lol
Well it looks like I'm moving Bones STF up my list over Spitfire. For me I've been loving the OJ Keyframe Plain Janes and my kids love the OJ Mini Hot Juice and Mini Super Juice wheels as they are just cruising around more.
Both are sick, I like the Bones SPF and Spitfire Formula 4
So torn today. My go to has always been a spitfire fan but lately I’ve been getting Bones. I found ATF all terrain formula. 56mm 80a.Filmers. They are ridiculously fast. But I can’t seem to grind anything. They catch a lot. And I just got formula 4 55mm. Tablet shaped
Great video, great energy, and presence! You could definitely interview people or talk for a living, bro. You just got that talking "it" factor. Thank you
Wow thank you that actually means a lot
Spitfire all day! I had bones v3 103a wheels in blue and they chipped and chunked out pretty bad and were a vary rough ride from the beginning being such hard wheels, next I tired some white spitfire conical full 99a wheels and they were better in every regard, the comfort well cruising is unmatched and the improved lock in on grinds and general stability of conical fulls is a great feeling.
This skate season (Canadian) i'm about to try out some spitfire 99a tablets in the neon orange color, which is gonna be my first experience with a colored spit wheel so hopefully they hold up well, otherwise ill just go back to the white spits but every now and then I like to add some color to my setups so really hoping these neon orange tablets dont chunk out on me like my last pair of colored bones wheels did... I love me some colored wheels but as many other commenters have mentioned white wheels tend to outperform colored wheels so I typically try to avoid colored wheels but every now and then a colored wheel will catch my eye/match my setup and ive just gotta try them... hence my purchase of the neon orange tablets.
Spitfire does tend to make batches of orange wheels regularly enough that im hoping they've really dialed in the orange F4 wheel formula to the point that its performance isnt that far off compared to its white wheeled counterpart... time will tell.
Great insight! Thank you so much for sharing
Skated spits since 88. Still the absolute best for me.
Definitely one of if not the best wheels
I'm loving my Spitfire Formula Four 99a Conicals. Just enough grip for the skatepark and hard enough for flatground and street skating.
The wheels i ride are V-1-V-5 50mm,55mm STFs now need to try Easy Street STFs.
Never skated Formula Fours I think but I have skated tons of different spitfires, I’ve noticed white wheels are better than colors, I love STF Bones wheels they’re great for street skating, Ricta clouds are amazing for cruising
Sick video 🔥
In this summer I buy a Jart PROTHANE Anti flat spot formula wheels. First power slide - they got a massive flat spot...
I got spitfire full conical skateboard wheels size 53mm . I loved spitfire wheels more than other wheels and bones wheels
Spitfires are some great wheels. Especially formula 4s
I’ve actually never owned a set of spitfires, not necessarily opposed just haven’t. If I were to try them it’d probably be radials/radial fulls as I like a wider wheel with a rounded edge. Actually just got some bones x97 56mm v6 wheels and really like them so far, too soon to review them but first impressions are good. They’re wide with rounded edge like a radial but side cut like a conical
From my experience spitfire is very consistent nowadays.
They did go through a rough patch around the time this video was posted.
But the last 2 years ish I've gotten nothing but great quality.
i got a pair of spitfires formula fours, 54mm 101a today and they cracked right in half from around an hour of skating. no hard core skating just riding and maybe a couple flip tricks
That is horrible. You should reach out to their costumer service and get your money back
I first had element 95a wheels, now I have new bones stf easy streets, they are so much smoother and better.
Hahahaha me too. The Elements weren't too bad though. Got 'em on sale so..Easy Streets are killer.
Spitfire wheels 🔥
How long have u been skating them
I always bought shop wheels and they did fine but now i wanne try out some expensive wheels
Both are great, coming from a skater.
From experience every colored wheel I’ve skated they’ve fallen apart and that’s why I stick with white wheels
There ya go! Look at my comment up above.
Have f4 tablets 55mm for half a year. Did a lot of powerslides. Shrink it to 52mm. But still OK, no one flatspots appeared.
Bones are the best
Check out bones v2 shape, they're similar to the tablets
Spitfires are my favorite and I skate the conical full but I will skate the conical or the classic shapes but spitfire have always been my favorite because where I live the ground is super rough but if I do skate bones then ima only skate the easy streets
Thanks for the input!
I always ride spits they are the best but bones bearings are the ones to rock
In my opinion I feel like it just depends what you skate more if you skate on rough asphalt or a lot of street I think bones stf are the way too go but if you just skate , skateparks and smooth ground I prefer spitfires
Imagine bones and spitfire do a collab
lmao wheel companies do not to collabs because they can’t choose which urethane formula to use
@@mnnmnnnnnnn haha yeah true
Bonefire
i have spitfire tablets white 99a and spitfire conical full normal 99a and they have very diferent uretane. Conicall full are very slippery and feel difent when u toch it( more like plastic). And tablets feel more like sand. Also have bones stf v3 103a and they feel more fast and grippy than spitfire.
Spitfire 🆚Bones is like McDonald's 🍔 🆚🍔 👑 Burger King LMBO
Hoping to get both if possible
Burger king and McDonalds are both 💩💩💩
Spitfire F1 99a shrink pretty evenly best to rotate don’t slide very well . F4 99d harder than F1 and seem really stable shrinking and coming much slower slide better than F1, F4 101 duro is a different story all together depending on the batch they can shrink in one session and slide like crazy or they can slide really well and keep their shape no cloning no shrinkage or very very slow shrinkage. Spitfire is not consistent with the urathanrs curing process but when they do it right it’s great , seems the only one I’ve ever noticed in my many sets is the F4 101 , the other formulas seem much more consistent , bones look feel and skate like plastic , yuck , but for my money the best wheel ever was Gold Wheel Co “white gold “ formula just before the fall of Kayo white gold wheels were 104a hard AF and a great wide patch but still classic shape soooooo good ...
Ok. So. This might not matter to anyone but apparently when snowmobile track skid sliders are colored they look cool yet wear out faster than plain white ones. The coloring definitely affects their durability. Probably even way worse durability when colors are then swirled together and it does make sense that it would.
Spitfire conical 56mm 99a durro is my shit
I’d definitely like to see a ricta wheel review
I can do that!
iHoliday I’ve heard the ricta slix are great for 50-50 and feeble grinds or any grind that rubs on the inside of the wheel.
@@iholiday4639 Maybe try out the Ricta Chrome Wide wheels, those should have a shape somewhat close to the Spitfire F4 Conical Full. From what I hear Ricta claims they are more flatspot resistent than even Formula Fours, which sounds very hard to believe to me. I've heard people say the Rictas they had wore down about as quickly as Bones do. And most people will know Bones wheels (like Easy Streets) actually do flatspot.
Damn that's insane. Normal colored formula 4s have no such problem. They don't flat spot, slide better than STFs, even the 99s provided the contact patch isn't way bigger and most of all they don't chip. STFs chip a lot, they get sliced up by just riding on asphalt. Normal color F4 are consistent, don't know what happened with the weird color ones, but just avoid colors and you'll be fine.
I think the color dye does something to the wheels. I have since tried another set and they skated great.
Bonus
Bones
Ojs cones really easley
Been riding Spit formula 4 con. full for 3 years (1 54 set lasts me a year) unfortunately Spit as a company seems to be a piece of shit and can't keep up with sales. Oh well, can't find a size 54mm f4 anywhere on gods green earth. Buying Bones STF 54 99a V5 shape instead.
Yeah, they're all sold out here too and I'm in need of wheels for one of my boards. But it probably has more to do with high demand and the whole no-no virus situation in the world and not the company. I want either the Conical Fulls or Tablet shape ones and nothing else, so it's hard to find those indeed. I'm not going to buy 99a wheels from Bones. Too sticky and soft for what I'm riding on. They're not 99a like Spitfires would be.
Spitfires are much better than bones imo
Why does the size of the wheel matter?
Some size wheels are more easy to lock into different grinds
@@kormaccelly992 ok thanks : )
Well, there's more to it. The shape matters MUCH more for locking into grinds. A small tablet shaped wheel will lock in much better than a larger slim wheel that's rounded. A flat wheel on the sides is likely to slide better, instead of stick. A larger wheel gets over cracks and bumps more easily. It will have a proportionally larger contact surface to ride on for most wheel shapes. And sometimes a bigger wider wheel will do more for comfortable smooth riding on rougher terrain than softer but smaller wheels ever could. The trade-off generally is how they are less nimble and turny and weigh more, which could affect tricks (if you'd even notice). It's actually why a 'perfect wheel' is kind of hard to find. Same goes for hardness. I'd probably recommend getting a wheel that's as hard as you can possibly get away with skating on the surfaces you ride on. But some people only have completely terrible roads, so you kind of have to go 99a wheels. Or sometimes local skateparks have super smooth slippery skatelite nonsense and you couldn't really ride a 101A or 103A wheel there without constantly slipping out.
Taller wheels are faster , all other things being equal .
Bones is better than Spitfire
Spitfires suck . SPFs every time .
Bones
Agreed