Those are going to be what I try next. I feel like my STF's are just so damn hard. Anything outside of a super smooth surface is just punishing, and I do a lot of city skating.
I really like your channel man, and the fact that you are a canadian father, working full time and still skating!!!! You are an inspiratiin for me! Frank from montreal
I used to only skate Spitfire when I was younger. I tried Bones STF about 6 or 7 years ago and I won't ride any other wheels anymore. They just don't flatspot and last forever. They do get chewed up on sharp ledges but I don't find it to affect the performance at all. Just my personal opinion.
@@bugglemagnum6213 I actually recently bought some radial slim F4s and one wheel had a defect. I thought it was just a small divit that would roll out after a day or two. It didn't and the wheel started to have big chunks fall off it and it sounded like a flatspot. But I sent them photos and they hooked it up with a new set, a ton of stickers, a tool, bandana, etc. I picked up some of Chad Caruso's Karma wheels to ride while I waited for them to send replacements. But I've got a set that I'll be riding soon. I really like the shape of radial slims better than anything Bones has though. And check out Chad Caruso's channel if you haven't. He and Ben have my favorite skate channels.
My all time favorite wheel is by far the Spitfire Conical Full. I get them in 56 because I ride an 8.5 anyway so the extra size doesn't bother me or affect my skating and they last longer. And since the contact patch is so wide on them I can ride over the crustiest ground
Man, I wish I knew all this before. I bought very hard wheels when I set up my new skate and now I can only ride smooth surfaces. When it comes to rough concrete, it's really hard to get any speed and it's so damn shaky. On the other hand, I rarely get to ride rough paths thought, I usually hop on my bike, get my board attached to my backpack and ride all the way down to my skate spot. Great video man, greetings from Brazil!!!
if you have rough paths etc like me, try looking at an atv set up for commuting to the park. basically a cross between a park street set up and a small longboard,
CYCLOPATH very true, first wheels i bought seperate were 78a rictas, i was thinking “why the hell aren’t i slowing down?” loved those wheels. but since i’m doing more stuff now, i like spitfire 99a f4 or oj original wheels for everything. still pretty fast.
I also do, I feel he is the only genuine skateboarder on UA-cam, no fakery and nothing is forced. I may be biased as it’s because of this guy I started skating again a year or so ago, much respect Ben keep it up :)
I've got Spitfire 101d radials and my girl has 99d radials. In my area we have full concrete skatepark and 101d are perfect for this conditions. They were a little bit slippery in the beggining but after few first hours they were good. The second skatepark has concrete ground and wooden ramps etc. in this case 99d are better than 101d. They are faster on concrete and more ,,hook" on wooden ramp. The 101 sometimes slide on wooden surfaces or dusty concrete. In my opinion Spitfire 101d makes skateboarding more challenging than 99d. P.S I bought 101d because of your review , so thank you Ben :)
4:02 is exactly the question I had. I've been skating flatground on an asphalt parking lot that's decent but still a bit rough. I think I'll try some conicals soon. Thanks Ben!
Formula fours are way better than the classics. You can powerslide and revert all day with those and you won't flat spot them. I have a set of classic Spitfire wheels that flat spotted the first session so I put them on my lathe fix them. They are the 56mm firefights. I switched to 57mm formula four radial fulls and they're faster plus I don't have to worry about flat spots.
Skating in transition I do notice an extra gear of speed with Bones. I have F4 99 and 101s, and both STF and SPF. Speed is in that order. I have two sets of F4 99s (53 and 56) that sit in the garage because I don't feel fast with them. F4 101s are almost as fast as STFs, but feel smoother and quieter. STF are faster and have a very distinct breaking point. SPF are super fast, but don't slide well and are a bit more likely to flat spot. Still the one to go to in big bowls.
Tim Jones how would you describe the powerslide of SPFs? For me: Spits 99a Classics slide like drifting. The sliding is progressive. They slide in a carve motion. STFs grip a lot and don’t give out at first. Then they slide straight, like ice. They don’t drift but instead slide like ice on the ground. In a straight line. Haven’t skated F4s. I have to buy them overseas.
Your content is the best man. Your videos on the wheelbase/truck/goldilocks zone stuff is so important yet most often overlooked. Thanks for the good vids man
Dude I can never decide. I always ride my wheels as long as I can so when I get new ones it always feels like a missive improvement. I rotator between the two bc when I’m riding the other for a while I’m like “dang I wanna try bones or spitfire again” haha. So it’s always kinda a “new” experience but I def prefer these two over any other brand. Spitfire F4s 99 conical 53mm or Bones V4s 53mm... 53mm is the only consist choice is my wheel size :P
I’ve been having some really good sessions lately on OJ wheels. I dig the way they feel in 99a and 101a. Three good shapes to choose from and they stay white. Only downside I could mention is that the tend to offer mostly larger diameter wheels. I found some 101a 52 mm ez edge from concentrates that are very juicy. Also, 99a 53 mm hardline from concentrates are quite nice. Their budget offerings are surprising. I haven’t tried the elite formula yet but the from concentrate and insane a thane formulas are definitely the real deal. Thank you Ben for all the great info!
@@bakedbeings I'll try em out when my park wheels finally shit the bed. Though I'm done for the season. Snow till April and 40 minute drive to nearest park.
The Bones STF 99a " EasyRider" wheels are very comfortable! I used to ride 85a and stepping to the 99a was not nearly as rough as I thought it would be compared to some of the absolute rocks that were around in the 2000's.
I’ve had a lot of good luck with Wayward wheels, I had a pair of conical shaped and a skinny 50mm set of Mike Carroll models and they lasted a long time and I love to powerslide and they kept the clean white color for the most part..
Bones just dropped some STF's 99a - they're not out yet to the public, but they've been testing them out with the team and more for quite a while now and started sending them out to UA-camrs to review - these could be it :)
Used to skate bones v3 before skating spitfire f4's 101s. Bones stf (with a narrow contact patch) became a little sketchy and unpredictable skating an extremely smooth park when carving around transition, randomly powersliding in a middle of a carve. The spits are a just a tad grippier and very forgiving in skateparks.
I second this. They Really smooth out those rough roads. Still powerslide and trick well. And they still feel nice on park cement or masonite. Slimeballs are legit.
Ive always liked f4s, ive had 101a 55mm lockins and 99a 54mm conical fulls. They always just seem faster on rough ground, a better slide in my opinion, and overall i like the marketing and stuff
I started back skating at 43 and streets are pretty crappy around here. I have a garage full of wheels as I have been trying a ton of them. I skated 90a. Smooth but my pop was all but gone. Tried some Ricta 92a. Nice ride but grippy if you land crooked. Spitfire 99a, I liked them but jarring on rough ground. Slime ball mini vomit 97a, great compromise but kind of wide on ledges. Riding Bones STF 83b, pretty good so far, actually less jarring than spits on harsh ground surprisingly as they are harder. It’s an expensive experiment but like Ben pointed out your skate surface will dictate how your wheels perform. They all seem to have pros and cons. I definitely notice my pop falls off the softer wheels. My compromise was to buy a cruiser with soft wheels just to ride and another board to skate.
Idk why but I’ve just been skating the ricta slix for over a year now. Just got so used to them. And to me it’s a great wheel. It does flat spot some but the slick core insert they use on the inside does seem to help with slides on certain obstacles
Tried out Bones stf V3. The shape is awesome, compact and locks in great, the white color is great but honestly, Bones are just too hard. Rolling around in the city streets is just insanely loud and the vibration is really uncomfortable. If you're not riding a really smooth park stf absolute no from me. The spitfire conical 99a are where it's at for me. A little smoother, still with slide. If Spitfire made a white 99a in V3 shape, would be my wheel forever!!!
Mephisto Steiner I agree. Bones will rattle the teeth right out of your skull. Super fast wheels on super smooth surfaces, though. I like the 99 Formula 4s better. Even on smooth surfaces, I find they are more forgiving
One looks like a skateboard wheel the other one looks like I could write on a chalkboard with it... Haaaate that artificial white look of STF’s! It looks like they’re made of chalk... Also Formula Fours are just considerably better overall. This coming from someone who was stuck on STF’s only for like 5 yrs. When formula fours came out I was skeptical bc regular spitfires flatspot if u look at them wrong and the street burners sucked too... I was gifted a pair of Formula Fours by DLXSF when they first came out and was honestly shocked by how good they were I’ve never rode a pair of ChalkTF’s since
Yep, had the OJ Creature wheels for a while and I never got flat spots despite constantly powersliding. They last for ages. I bought Bones for my new setup and am already wondering if I should have just stuck with the OJ's.
austi i ride ojs usually, spend a lot of time practicing powerslides, and i still have no idea how to get a flatspot. you guys are doing something wrong.
I've skated Spitfires my whole life and I love them, but my last set of wheels I switched it up and got a set of acid and honestly I'm sold. They're my favorite urethane I've ever skated and they last longer than any wheels I've ever skated. Plus they make this great 'crack' sound when you land
I got bones V3, 99 wheels, but they feel way to skinny and to soft. Im super excited, to try out the V1 wheels that are 103 hard!! All reviews are amazing!! Really helps finding and trying out new things!!
Five Hour Energy it’s a looks thing for me. I don’t know why but I’be always liked just a plain white wheel. Never liked the graphics showing or any other color wheels. I’ve seen sets of wheels that are a different color for each wheel and that gives me anxiety, hahahahaha.
My favorite so far is the spitfire radial slim 51mm 101du, but right now im trying Bones V1 52mm and V4 51mm and i really liked it. First time trying Bones and i dont regret it but for now i prefer the spitfire for the smoothness of the ride!!!! I recommend to try the 2 brand.
I've always rode spitfires or pigs back in the day, but a wheel that stays whiter longer is appealing. I don't skate ground that isn't smooth anymore, so maybe Bones' would be good for me.
Wheels that stay white have sacrificed urethane purity for more dye and colorfast qualities, but this is getting down to technicalities that prob really don't matter...I swear I do notice that colored (not white) wheels get little chunks/bites from rough surfaces a lot easier tho
Love my spitties, 52mm F4 101's, really slippy and the radial shape i'm using has plenty of contact patch for shitty road in my area. I ride a super low setup too cause i'm in my 40's and it's nicer on my legs. So the slippy aspect is good as i get a bit of wheel bite sometimes. I can't do grinds yet but I'm sure they would be good for nose and tail slides etc.
So I was on 56mn full conical spits but wheel height and the riser created a lot of ghost pop. I switched to Bones 52mm V3 and lots of things started to work... everything but coping and hang-ups. Now I'm back to spits but 52s.. so happy.
Interesting View Point ! I live on top of a hill with really rough ground and love to powerslide. Spitfires would always chip for me and become mini wheels the quickest. Bones always out lasted them and rarely would flatspot spitfires flat spot after a few weeks for me but maybe thats because i powerslide so much
I‘m totally with you. I had a lot of STFs before my 99a conicals and even tho they are so wide they still slide much better than the Bones wheels. I‘m not going back.
*** Regarding the duro *** The Bones are marketed as 83b and to "help" people they translate this into 103a which is actually incorrect. This link for explains the a and b scales : 2.bp.blogspot.com/_an3lNEHhIeY/TCnpJlG0KaI/AAAAAAAAAN8/nGbLIoO1-gM/s1600/chart1.jpg So 83b is about 97a. I have skated Bones STF and Spit 99 FF and yes the 99' are harder and slide better don't wear as fast as STF when you power slide on rough asphalt. Without getting into the details, you can't measure precisely duro greater than 90 on any scale. Instead, you should switch to the next harder scale. But that would confuse the buyers. Also you can't physically measure greater than 100. Thanks for reading :)
Thanks for the review Ben. I’ve never skated bones before n will stick with the f4 conicals I’ve had the last 6-8 months. I did recently get a pair of Ricta Rapido 99a rounds as I love the clouds on my cruiser. Rained for the last two weeks here in Iowa, so I’ve got maybe 5 min on them so far.
No nock on Spitfire but I have always liked Bones wheels going back to the RAT BONES lol I had some Spitfire wheels before and FOR ME something just didn't feel right. But in the end there's no right or wrong answer. It all depends on the SK8R
55mm spitfire f4 conicals 101a in cold temps and dry humidity, 55mm spitfire lockins 99a in hot weather or wet humidity. Always on standard Indys for the 56mm clearance. Bones SPF or 99a spitfire classics on wooden (banana-skin) mini-ramps and bowls
Been skating spitfire wheels for many years now and I dont belive they are the best but I feel at home on them. Here in sweden we skate indoor parks atleast 6 months of the year and usually its very slippery indoor and I get used to it, and when I get outside and skate concrete parks it just feels like the wheels gets sucked to the surface. On asphalt they work alot better i think! I would like to try a harder wheel from spitfire if they make one, but for now im good with 101d formula fours! bought a set of classics 99 duro the other week and it feelt like skating on a rubbery/plastic gym floor, so I changed back to the old ones after 10min. Never got flatspot on any of the 101a Formula four, but the older classics always got flatspotted, but usually we say that a flatspot is a reminder that you did something gnarly haha
My thing with spitfires, I love them, though they don't flatspot, they do get progressively smaller the longer you have them, but this is probably because I've had mine for over 9 months, and I do a lot of slide tricks
How many full complete setups do you have Ben? I feel like I have a skateboard and accessories fetish, can’t stop buying stuff. But then I see you and I feel like I’m not as bad as I thought lol. Love your vids, keep it up.
One thing I heard from a friend of mine who worked at a skate shop is that urethane never truly stops hardening so those little yellow wheels that have been in the sun 6 months are harder now than they have been in the past not sure if it's true or not that's why I'm throwing it out there
I have to agree the Spitfire Formula Four Conical Full 99a 52mm is the best all around wheel out there. Now that we’ve confirmed that, your thoughts on best Bearings?
Have you ever tried Autobahn? The dual duro has been my favorite wheel for about 10 years. I highly recommend giving them a push if you haven't before.
I tried one set of autobahn , v3 like shape. Super lock on grind but weird feeling when im rolling i feel slow with them but i think the wheels was old because i got them really cheap at the skateshop.
Please do an OJ wheel review! I just got some OJ Elites recently and they are my favorite wheels I've ever used. Used to be a spitfire guy but tried these out on a whim and I'm loving it.
I'm really interested in oj I had normal (really bad), insanethane (really fast but won't slide at all). I'm currently skating f4s and they slip too much and they're slow as hell, for my next wheels I want to try oj elites Hardline. How are them? Do they slide a little? Are them still fast?
@@usafan96soren20 i have the OJ elites hardline shape and they are very nice, the shape is very similar to spitfire conical. They grip well onto even the smoother skatepark surfaces but will still slide nicely when you want them to. ive just started learning frontside rock and rolls and they make the sickest squeal sound when im turning back into the ramp. still very fast and ive done tons of slides, not a single flat spot.
I'm used to OJ's Hot Juice for cruising then when I get to the park l switch them for Spifire Bigheads. Love them in 52mm except when new because the stripes makes them too grippy
I think it is personal preference. I feel Bones STF is the hardest one among the 3. I skated Spit Fire 101a formula, which is a little softer than STF. I prefer OJ and Bones because the both are little bit harder than Spit Fire. It is my opinion and preference.
To me it’s simple really. The difference is is that formula fours are just a way better wheel.... They also don’t look fake like they’re made out of chalk like stf’s do. 52mm Conical Full Formula fours for life! (Wud ride 51 if they made em). Spits makes big wheels that are slim too they made classic shapes and radial slims and also check their site bones wheels definitely get wider the bigger they are.... Good video tho ur killing it skatin too!
thanks very informative, I wish I lived somewhere in america because usually over there you have smoother area to ride, I live in england and not many areas are smooth at all so it kind of sucks not much money are put into new roads and paths so they're all old and crumbly.
I've been really happy with the spitfire conicals Ive been skating the last several weeks. I'm going to try OJ conicals to see how they compare, but I've always been partial to spitfire
dig this review ! N8 has Bones 99a sf dad has the Spitfire F4 full conical I don’t think you can go wrong with either brand just comes down to preference 🤘🏼🛹
Spitfire Formula Four 99a Conicals are the best wheels I ever rode!
Those are going to be what I try next. I feel like my STF's are just so damn hard. Anything outside of a super smooth surface is just punishing, and I do a lot of city skating.
They suck for crooked grinds.
Sam bro
ForcedFed4 Garage went in a bowl with stf just messing around and slid like fucking crazy, almost broke my fucking leg, gonna give spitfire a try next
I would definitely agree, the conical full 99du are unbeatable
I really like your channel man, and the fact that you are a canadian father, working full time and still skating!!!! You are an inspiratiin for me!
Frank from montreal
shu up bitch LO0L
Aris 😐
Mtl is stick up assholes--pru fr Algeria
The accent on asphalt totally makes sense now! Great video dude
Dude Your skating has really improved. That Nollie Inward was Boss and same for the Hardflip.
Thanks Timmy. I have been working on my flatground a lot!
@@bendegros ben degros vs neen williams in a game of skate?
It was really sick!
remember formula 1s? these yellowed out like craazy back in the days
I have the John Cardiel F1's on my board from high school. They're definitely yellow. I ordered some F4's today.
I used to only skate Spitfire when I was younger. I tried Bones STF about 6 or 7 years ago and I won't ride any other wheels anymore. They just don't flatspot and last forever. They do get chewed up on sharp ledges but I don't find it to affect the performance at all. Just my personal opinion.
Flynnbot bones 4 life ! I used to throw my bones in the freezer before a sesh to get them even harder
Vincent Same! Rodney Mullen use to do that.
I was the same way until formula four came out, i honestly dislike bones now in comparison. Try f4s
@@bugglemagnum6213 I actually recently bought some radial slim F4s and one wheel had a defect. I thought it was just a small divit that would roll out after a day or two. It didn't and the wheel started to have big chunks fall off it and it sounded like a flatspot. But I sent them photos and they hooked it up with a new set, a ton of stickers, a tool, bandana, etc. I picked up some of Chad Caruso's Karma wheels to ride while I waited for them to send replacements. But I've got a set that I'll be riding soon. I really like the shape of radial slims better than anything Bones has though. And check out Chad Caruso's channel if you haven't. He and Ben have my favorite skate channels.
Now it‘s the first time riding spitfire wheels. The best i‘ve ever had. I love them 👍
Spitfire formula 4 conical fulls are the best skate wheels ever. Noticably so much better than any other hard/street wheels I've ever skated
My all time favorite wheel is by far the Spitfire Conical Full. I get them in 56 because I ride an 8.5 anyway so the extra size doesn't bother me or affect my skating and they last longer. And since the contact patch is so wide on them I can ride over the crustiest ground
Whos Dovahkiin I rock the same set up. 56 conical fulls and an 8.5 👌
Man, I wish I knew all this before. I bought very hard wheels when I set up my new skate and now I can only ride smooth surfaces. When it comes to rough concrete, it's really hard to get any speed and it's so damn shaky. On the other hand, I rarely get to ride rough paths thought, I usually hop on my bike, get my board attached to my backpack and ride all the way down to my skate spot. Great video man, greetings from Brazil!!!
if you have rough paths etc like me, try looking at an atv set up for commuting to the park. basically a cross between a park street set up and a small longboard,
Spitfire 99s at least 55mm are actually really fast on rough surfaces.
@@mr.jamster8414 99's are fast but I'm getting down to like 78's and they are smooth as butter.
CYCLOPATH very true, first wheels i bought seperate were 78a rictas, i was thinking “why the hell aren’t i slowing down?” loved those wheels. but since i’m doing more stuff now, i like spitfire 99a f4 or oj original wheels for everything. still pretty fast.
Segundo comentário seu q eu vejo hj nesse canal kkkk, espero q ainda ande de skate, salve de Campos dos Goytacazes (RJ)
Different trucks, different board, different bearings. So many variables
Hey hey!
Who else likes Bens videos before they watch them? Much love from Australia 🇦🇺❤️
Those Vegan Aussie Blokes forreal, I enjoy his content more than other UA-camrs, keep up the great work Ben
I also do, I feel he is the only genuine skateboarder on UA-cam, no fakery and nothing is forced. I may be biased as it’s because of this guy I started skating again a year or so ago, much respect Ben keep it up :)
Yes and also Aussie. :)
I don't. I watch videos first, then make up my mind. I ain't no fanboy.
Chris Kirtley Probably coz he’s older and doesn’t make a living off UA-cam
Ashfault?
Leo Day he’s Canadian, cut him some slack. That’s how they pronounce it there. And technically he’s correct.
Jay Teverzczuk so, it was a joke you hat
I'm Canadian how are you supposed to pronounce it
@@yyello6072 in America its "ass-fault"
saint Jimmy no it’s as-fault
The 97a F4 Classic Spits slide fantastically!
I like how he says "ASH-fault" instead of "Asphalt"
Bones have the 99a one now!
I've got Spitfire 101d radials and my girl has 99d radials. In my area we have full concrete skatepark and 101d are perfect for this conditions. They were a little bit slippery in the beggining but after few first hours they were good. The second skatepark has concrete ground and wooden ramps etc. in this case 99d are better than 101d. They are faster on concrete and more ,,hook" on wooden ramp. The 101 sometimes slide on wooden surfaces or dusty concrete.
In my opinion Spitfire 101d makes skateboarding more challenging than 99d.
P.S I bought 101d because of your review , so thank you Ben :)
4:02 is exactly the question I had. I've been skating flatground on an asphalt parking lot that's decent but still a bit rough. I think I'll try some conicals soon. Thanks Ben!
Ive been riding my bones for about a year and i fkn love them doing reverts on quarters is so much fun
ur words exactly.
Man your reviews are second to none!
Spitty classics all day!!! Haven't tried the formula 4's. I'm too afraid of change I guess. Love the vids Ben. Most underrated UA-cam skater IMO.
Formula fours are way better than the classics. You can powerslide and revert all day with those and you won't flat spot them. I have a set of classic Spitfire wheels that flat spotted the first session so I put them on my lathe fix them. They are the 56mm firefights. I switched to 57mm formula four radial fulls and they're faster plus I don't have to worry about flat spots.
Skating in transition I do notice an extra gear of speed with Bones. I have F4 99 and 101s, and both STF and SPF. Speed is in that order. I have two sets of F4 99s (53 and 56) that sit in the garage because I don't feel fast with them. F4 101s are almost as fast as STFs, but feel smoother and quieter. STF are faster and have a very distinct breaking point. SPF are super fast, but don't slide well and are a bit more likely to flat spot. Still the one to go to in big bowls.
Tim Jones how would you describe the powerslide of SPFs?
For me:
Spits 99a Classics slide like drifting. The sliding is progressive. They slide in a carve motion.
STFs grip a lot and don’t give out at first. Then they slide straight, like ice. They don’t drift but instead slide like ice on the ground. In a straight line.
Haven’t skated F4s. I have to buy them overseas.
Your content is the best man. Your videos on the wheelbase/truck/goldilocks zone stuff is so important yet most often overlooked.
Thanks for the good vids man
Spitfires are my #1 wheel of choice while Bones has always been like a decent #2 alternative if I can't get a hold of a good set of Spitfires.
Appreciate your honest non biased reviews. Keep ‘em coming 👊🏽👍🏽
Dude I can never decide. I always ride my wheels as long as I can so when I get new ones it always feels like a missive improvement. I rotator between the two bc when I’m riding the other for a while I’m like “dang I wanna try bones or spitfire again” haha. So it’s always kinda a “new” experience but I def prefer these two over any other brand. Spitfire F4s 99 conical 53mm or Bones V4s 53mm... 53mm is the only consist choice is my wheel size :P
I’ve been having some really good sessions lately on OJ wheels. I dig the way they feel in 99a and 101a. Three good shapes to choose from and they stay white. Only downside I could mention is that the tend to offer mostly larger diameter wheels. I found some 101a 52 mm ez edge from concentrates that are very juicy. Also, 99a 53 mm hardline from concentrates are quite nice. Their budget offerings are surprising. I haven’t tried the elite formula yet but the from concentrate and insane a thane formulas are definitely the real deal. Thank you Ben for all the great info!
Try out 52mm 87a keyframe shape in ojs. Great if you live in crust, greetings from the future.
The elite 99As are beast on a transitiony, smooth park
@@bakedbeings I'll try em out when my park wheels finally shit the bed. Though I'm done for the season. Snow till April and 40 minute drive to nearest park.
@@cv6531 condolences 💐
The Bones STF 99a " EasyRider" wheels are very comfortable! I used to ride 85a and stepping to the 99a was not nearly as rough as I thought it would be compared to some of the absolute rocks that were around in the 2000's.
I’ve had a lot of good luck with Wayward wheels, I had a pair of conical shaped and a skinny 50mm set of Mike Carroll models and they lasted a long time and I love to powerslide and they kept the clean white color for the most part..
I happen to have the most insane wheels in my garage! SSradials 68mm w metal core
from 1989 or something. They are crazy!!!
68? dude, thats bigger than what little kids ride!
Wow, finally a good wheel review. My bones 103’s also chipped badly... Guess I’ll try spitfire 99s for the first time. Thx Ben👍
I’ve never tried spitfires before but I’ll try them out next weekend for my new board set up!
Any differences between them
FireDemon 216 no response 😞
Just picked up Spitfire Conical fulls 54 101s from Orchard Skate Shop
Kevin D yeah 54s are the shit
Orchard is the shit! I love that shop!
I've been skating 54 mm for the last 10 years...everyone laughed at me now it's cool and I'm confused..lol
Why are 54mm shit compared to 52mm? I'm gonna pick some up today for my 8.25 deck
Bones just dropped some STF's 99a - they're not out yet to the public, but they've been testing them out with the team and more for quite a while now and started sending them out to UA-camrs to review - these could be it :)
Used to skate bones v3 before skating spitfire f4's 101s. Bones stf (with a narrow contact patch) became a little sketchy and unpredictable skating an extremely smooth park when carving around transition, randomly powersliding in a middle of a carve. The spits are a just a tad grippier and very forgiving in skateparks.
Santa Cruz Slimeballs, 97a , 54mm. The best for "ashphalt" and concrete :)
I second this. They Really smooth out those rough roads. Still powerslide and trick well. And they still feel nice on park cement or masonite. Slimeballs are legit.
Durability?
@@danielnanez503 not as long as bones or spits but they are on par with ojs
Ive always liked f4s, ive had 101a 55mm lockins and 99a 54mm conical fulls. They always just seem faster on rough ground, a better slide in my opinion, and overall i like the marketing and stuff
got some 52mm spitfires 10 ago and they are still good, very nice wheels really recommend
I've always ridden Spitfires formula 4 53 very good 4 tech tricks on a 7.75. Trying out Bones 53 party pack today.
I started back skating at 43 and streets are pretty crappy around here. I have a garage full of wheels as I have been trying a ton of them. I skated 90a. Smooth but my pop was all but gone. Tried some Ricta 92a. Nice ride but grippy if you land crooked. Spitfire 99a, I liked them but jarring on rough ground. Slime ball mini vomit 97a, great compromise but kind of wide on ledges. Riding Bones STF 83b, pretty good so far, actually less jarring than spits on harsh ground surprisingly as they are harder. It’s an expensive experiment but like Ben pointed out your skate surface will dictate how your wheels perform. They all seem to have pros and cons. I definitely notice my pop falls off the softer wheels. My compromise was to buy a cruiser with soft wheels just to ride and another board to skate.
Just got my first pair of spitfire formula 4's 101a, so far it's my favourite wheel i've ever rode in my 8 years of skateboarding
Idk why but I’ve just been skating the ricta slix for over a year now. Just got so used to them. And to me it’s a great wheel. It does flat spot some but the slick core insert they use on the inside does seem to help with slides on certain obstacles
Tried out Bones stf V3. The shape is awesome, compact and locks in great, the white color is great but honestly, Bones are just too hard. Rolling around in the city streets is just insanely loud and the vibration is really uncomfortable. If you're not riding a really smooth park stf absolute no from me. The spitfire conical 99a are where it's at for me. A little smoother, still with slide. If Spitfire made a white 99a in V3 shape, would be my wheel forever!!!
Mephisto Steiner I agree. Bones will rattle the teeth right out of your skull. Super fast wheels on super smooth surfaces, though. I like the 99 Formula 4s better. Even on smooth surfaces, I find they are more forgiving
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Mephisto Steiner what kind of “street” wheel is slow and super rattly on ashphalt?
One looks like a skateboard wheel the other one looks like I could write on a chalkboard with it... Haaaate that artificial white look of STF’s! It looks like they’re made of chalk... Also Formula Fours are just considerably better overall. This coming from someone who was stuck on STF’s only for like 5 yrs. When formula fours came out I was skeptical bc regular spitfires flatspot if u look at them wrong and the street burners sucked too... I was gifted a pair of Formula Fours by DLXSF when they first came out and was honestly shocked by how good they were I’ve never rode a pair of ChalkTF’s since
Try some OJ Insane-a-thane! Mine stayed white and they performed similar to 101a spits
i agree, OJ's are really good i love mine.
They also have those new elites that seem pretty good
Yep, had the OJ Creature wheels for a while and I never got flat spots despite constantly powersliding. They last for ages. I bought Bones for my new setup and am already wondering if I should have just stuck with the OJ's.
Ojs flatspot in like 30 minuets. If it’s not stf or f4 it’s gonna flatspot
austi i ride ojs usually, spend a lot of time practicing powerslides, and i still have no idea how to get a flatspot. you guys are doing something wrong.
I've skated Spitfires my whole life and I love them, but my last set of wheels I switched it up and got a set of acid and honestly I'm sold. They're my favorite urethane I've ever skated and they last longer than any wheels I've ever skated. Plus they make this great 'crack' sound when you land
Im intrigued.... are they hard/soft? was thinking of trying them but chickened out, whats better about them compared to say a F4?
Love your channel, I appreciate that you put out honest, reliable, unbiased information. I would love to hear your opinion on OJ wheels.
Bones recently released a 99a street wheel.
UA-cam needs a spitfire formula four radial slim wheel review. Thanks!
It has one because I made one:)
7:14 tha hardflip! 👏💕
Switch hardflip was dope
i wish Bones didn't stop the DTF series. they were great. I'm riding F4's now and love them.
I got bones V3, 99 wheels, but they feel way to skinny and to soft. Im super excited, to try out the V1 wheels that are 103 hard!! All reviews are amazing!! Really helps finding and trying out new things!!
Spitfire fomula 4 tablets are my go to wheels
Ben, thanks for all the reviews you make, they are very useful!! Greetings from Bogotá - Colombia
I love how he calls asphalt ashphalt
This is the one I’ve been waiting for. Thanks Ben!
I was a bones guy for almost 20 years. I just switched to Spitfire Classics 53mm and Im loving it. Always with the graphics facing in!
What reason for the graphics facing in. I do that but it scratches off the graphic easier if you grind
Five Hour Energy it’s a looks thing for me. I don’t know why but I’be always liked just a plain white wheel. Never liked the graphics showing or any other color wheels. I’ve seen sets of wheels that are a different color for each wheel and that gives me anxiety, hahahahaha.
I'm in the process of deciding what to buy for me next setup, and this helped a lot
Just picked up two sets of the Full Conical Formula Four 52mm 99d and a set of the Formula Four Classic 52mm 99d
Spitfires only for me.. But that's just me.
They don't make park wheels that are 95A anymore. That was my favorite. Very good video.
Bones are better all around though, cause on transition spitfires can be kinda dicey with the slidey
My favorite so far is the spitfire radial slim 51mm 101du, but right now im trying Bones V1 52mm and V4 51mm and i really liked it. First time trying Bones and i dont regret it but for now i prefer the spitfire for the smoothness of the ride!!!! I recommend to try the 2 brand.
I've always rode spitfires or pigs back in the day, but a wheel that stays whiter longer is appealing.
I don't skate ground that isn't smooth anymore, so maybe Bones' would be good for me.
Wheels that stay white have sacrificed urethane purity for more dye and colorfast qualities, but this is getting down to technicalities that prob really don't matter...I swear I do notice that colored (not white) wheels get little chunks/bites from rough surfaces a lot easier tho
You sounded so professional I'm not sure if it's pronounced asphalt or if I've just been pronouncing ashfault wrong my whole life..
Love my spitties, 52mm F4 101's, really slippy and the radial shape i'm using has plenty of contact patch for shitty road in my area. I ride a super low setup too cause i'm in my 40's and it's nicer on my legs. So the slippy aspect is good as i get a bit of wheel bite sometimes. I can't do grinds yet but I'm sure they would be good for nose and tail slides etc.
My favorite wheel is bones 53 v2 locked wheels I like that flat face but with a nice wide contact surface area for grinds
So I was on 56mn full conical spits but wheel height and the riser created a lot of ghost pop. I switched to Bones 52mm V3 and lots of things started to work... everything but coping and hang-ups. Now I'm back to spits but 52s.. so happy.
you should do a review of the new bones that came out a while back!
Interesting View Point ! I live on top of a hill with really rough ground and love to powerslide. Spitfires would always chip for me and become mini wheels the quickest. Bones always out lasted them and rarely would flatspot spitfires flat spot after a few weeks for me but maybe thats because i powerslide so much
Hi which duro wheels and formula exactly u compared? 101a or 99a? Wheel shapes?
Spitfire formula four 99a conical is perfection of a wheel, tried all shapes deffs the best alround shape and hardness size is your preference
I‘m totally with you. I had a lot of STFs before my 99a conicals and even tho they are so wide they still slide much better than the Bones wheels. I‘m not going back.
*** Regarding the duro ***
The Bones are marketed as 83b and to "help" people they translate this into 103a which is actually incorrect. This link for explains the a and b scales :
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So 83b is about 97a. I have skated Bones STF and Spit 99 FF and yes the 99' are harder and slide better don't wear as fast as STF when you power slide on rough asphalt.
Without getting into the details, you can't measure precisely duro greater than 90 on any scale. Instead, you should switch to the next harder scale. But that would confuse the buyers. Also you can't physically measure greater than 100. Thanks for reading :)
so the higher duros over 95 are actually measured on the b scale and converted to a for buyer purposes?
I had a pair of 99a spitfires and they were just so plastic feeling to me where I got a pair of bones 100s and they feel like butter.
I usually hear that bones feel too plasticky and spitfires feel too glassy. Well I wouldn't know about either cause OJ for life
Thanks for the review Ben. I’ve never skated bones before n will stick with the f4 conicals I’ve had the last 6-8 months. I did recently get a pair of Ricta Rapido 99a rounds as I love the clouds on my cruiser. Rained for the last two weeks here in Iowa, so I’ve got maybe 5 min on them so far.
I just like The F4 Classics. The Camo one's were a good drop!
No nock on Spitfire but I have always liked Bones wheels going back to the RAT BONES lol I had some Spitfire wheels before and FOR ME something just didn't feel right.
But in the end there's no right or wrong answer. It all depends on the SK8R
My spitfires 99 classic have huge chucks out of them from my crooks. However, they feel so good to side on and cruise.
55mm spitfire f4 conicals 101a in cold temps and dry humidity, 55mm spitfire lockins 99a in hot weather or wet humidity. Always on standard Indys for the 56mm clearance. Bones SPF or 99a spitfire classics on wooden (banana-skin) mini-ramps and bowls
Been skating spitfire wheels for many years now and I dont belive they are the best but I feel at home on them.
Here in sweden we skate indoor parks atleast 6 months of the year and usually its very slippery indoor and I get used to it, and when I get outside and skate concrete parks it just feels like the wheels gets sucked to the surface. On asphalt they work alot better i think!
I would like to try a harder wheel from spitfire if they make one, but for now im good with 101d formula fours! bought a set of classics 99 duro the other week and it feelt like skating on a rubbery/plastic gym floor, so I changed back to the old ones after 10min.
Never got flatspot on any of the 101a Formula four, but the older classics always got flatspotted, but usually we say that a flatspot is a reminder that you did something gnarly haha
My thing with spitfires, I love them, though they don't flatspot, they do get progressively smaller the longer you have them, but this is probably because I've had mine for over 9 months, and I do a lot of slide tricks
How many full complete setups do you have Ben? I feel like I have a skateboard and accessories fetish, can’t stop buying stuff. But then I see you and I feel like I’m not as bad as I thought lol. Love your vids, keep it up.
About four set up at any time with quite the truck collection to boot.
Currently riding Spitfire FF classics 54mm.. best wheels I've ever had and they aren't turning yellow!
One thing I heard from a friend of mine who worked at a skate shop is that urethane never truly stops hardening so those little yellow wheels that have been in the sun 6 months are harder now than they have been in the past not sure if it's true or not that's why I'm throwing it out there
try 4 years lol
Likes from Germany
My old set of Bones STF v2 wheels slide like butter on smooth park or rough asphalt however my new STF v2's (3-5 months old) barely slide.
Hey Bro! Great Review! I agree I like the formula four 99a Spitfires myself.
I have to agree the Spitfire Formula Four Conical Full 99a 52mm is the best all around wheel out there. Now that we’ve confirmed that, your thoughts on best Bearings?
Have you ever tried Autobahn? The dual duro has been my favorite wheel for about 10 years. I highly recommend giving them a push if you haven't before.
I tried one set of autobahn , v3 like shape. Super lock on grind but weird feeling when im rolling i feel slow with them but i think the wheels was old because i got them really cheap at the skateshop.
tried the dual duro and it they felt like shit. Too hard and still slow at the same time it's hard to explain
@@skankwave5245 weird because I've found them to be soft and fast. I wouldn't recommend them for park skating, I do my skating in the streets yo. Lol
yea everyone has their own taste, good that they suit you Imma stick to f4's
Please do an OJ wheel review!
I just got some OJ Elites recently and they are my favorite wheels I've ever used. Used to be a spitfire guy but tried these out on a whim and I'm loving it.
They are 99A hardness, 55mm because im a bowl guy. But they stay a really nice white color and I like how smooth they are on all surfaces.
I'm really interested in oj I had normal (really bad), insanethane (really fast but won't slide at all).
I'm currently skating f4s and they slip too much and they're slow as hell, for my next wheels I want to try oj elites Hardline.
How are them? Do they slide a little? Are them still fast?
@@usafan96soren20 i have the OJ elites hardline shape and they are very nice, the shape is very similar to spitfire conical. They grip well onto even the smoother skatepark surfaces but will still slide nicely when you want them to. ive just started learning frontside rock and rolls and they make the sickest squeal sound when im turning back into the ramp. still very fast and ive done tons of slides, not a single flat spot.
I'm used to OJ's Hot Juice for cruising then when I get to the park l switch them for Spifire Bigheads. Love them in 52mm except when new because the stripes makes them too grippy
I think it is personal preference. I feel Bones STF is the hardest one among the 3. I skated Spit Fire 101a formula, which is a little softer than STF. I prefer OJ and Bones because the both are little bit harder than Spit Fire. It is my opinion and preference.
Skated both and agree more or less the same both are good.
To me it’s simple really. The difference is is that formula fours are just a way better wheel.... They also don’t look fake like they’re made out of chalk like stf’s do. 52mm Conical Full Formula fours for life! (Wud ride 51 if they made em). Spits makes big wheels that are slim too they made classic shapes and radial slims and also check their site bones wheels definitely get wider the bigger they are.... Good video tho ur killing it skatin too!
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thanks very informative, I wish I lived somewhere in america because usually over there you have smoother area to ride, I live in england and not many areas are smooth at all so it kind of sucks not much money are put into new roads and paths so they're all old and crumbly.
Best skate reviews on UA-cam ❤
I've been really happy with the spitfire conicals Ive been skating the last several weeks. I'm going to try OJ conicals to see how they compare, but I've always been partial to spitfire
dig this review !
N8 has Bones 99a sf
dad has the Spitfire F4 full conical
I don’t think you can go wrong with either brand
just comes down to preference
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