I really like the idea of veneering MDF for a cabinet build, you have straight edges and it’s way cheaper than plywood, plus you could make your friends jealous if you give the impression that you “really” build all your workshop cabinets out of walnut 😜
Your comment around the 30:00 mark about design serendipity is O-so-true. You never know when the design muse will strike; pay attention when it does. As you said, it may not be applicable for the particular piece you are working on, but it may very well work someplace else.
@@ENCurtis when you test fitted the panels I immediately thought wow that looks like a great idea! It gave me Henry Van de Velde vibes, very nice for a future project
something I find interesting, woodworkers spend a lot of time pre-apologizing to the comment section. First time I heard one for bondo. I'm watching you because you're the expert do what you like :)
Leaving thise parts to cut through the top and bottom of the case as "handles" was exactly what i saw when you set them in place. Would be a very interesting look. Great looking build thus far!
After watching Rick Basillo with his many veneering adventures, I've been contemplating a particular project for my Dad, and watching this cabinet build has been great prep for me. Keep up all the dope things you do, sir. I can't wait to see the completed piece.
Thanks for another very info-taining video. I always appreciate explanations of your inspiration. I once wrapped a maple vanity with 2 parallel padauk veneer strips that ran across the top and "waterfalled" down the door. It looked amazing. My inspiration - the red racing stripes on a white Dodge Challenger. They ran the entire length of the car via the hood, roof and trunk. Thx again.
"process" is part of the "journey",. I agree, a maker explaining their "process/proceeses" is more enlightened than just "this is what I do; don't question it"
I was initially wondering why you were using Tightbond III vs II. Then, you mentioned it going to Florida and worried about the humidity concerns. Thanks for explaining your process it well enough through this that questions get answered before the end of the video.
The "attachment reveal" just before your thumbs-up, was a real *oh snap!* moment for me. I just wasn't visualizing how it was all playing together. Seriously, this is a beautiful piece of art. The customer will love it!
Great video! And I'm happy to see the Shaper Origin in action. Odd, eh?, that we can use a digital template to make a template to make another template. Cupla questions, if you've got time: do you use the CutList extension in SketchUp to make the .svg files for the Shaper Origin? (I'm still puzzling over how to work this.) And are you cutting all the way through the 3/4 MDF template for the 2nd template with shaper, or just half way and then bandsawing and template routing the 2nd to the first? I love the wide edge solid banding on the MDF to handle screws/hinges. And the curve on the doors is very nice. I'm assuming you're watching Nick Pedulla do a similar door, but his is also curved in another dimension.) Thanks again for really great demonstration of order of operations, even though you're ready to do some design on the fly.
Hey Eric I like to use a layer of cork or thin sheet of foam on my outer bending caul so it has the opportunity to compress slightly and take up any inconsistency that you were talking about
I've done that many times in the past. Sticky back cork is a fantastic resource to have in the shop--unfortunately I haven't had any on hand in a while... suppose I should change that!
Hey next time you need 7/8’’ thick material use a mix of baltic birtch ply and 2 1/8’’ thick HDF this will give you something more structural and more stable. I always like to see tour video.
A couple spots in the video it looks like you are flushing up the edge banding by using a router on the face. You have. A large bace on it. What is the bit and set up? Do you have some feet on the base to allow you to slide over the lip and trim it? Thanks!
Yes it's a simple edge banding jig. Basically a 1/4" spacer under one side of the base plate lifts the router up, the set the router bit flush to the work surface. Then just hog away the material.
“Poplar veneer”, now that’s a phrase I thought I’d never hear. 😉 I’m surprised 1 inch MDF is hard to get in Philidelphia. Even in the tiny town I live in my supplier has it; maybe with a day or two delay if they’re out if stock and need to truck it over from their location in the big city.
Poplar veneer is great for adding thickness to material! Been using it for years. 1" MDF is easily available but I need 7/8" and planing MDF is just about the worst thing I can think to do 😂
At 19:20. It think you mean the radius is different along the arc. 2. As the thickness of the arced lamination grows, so does the radius (this math makes my head hurt too).?
Random question. But I trust your judgement, When resawing, let’s say you have an “average” tooth set on the blade, how much extra would you leave on the board when cutting, to account for getting rid of the saw marks so you can land on your desired measurement
I hope your neighbor with the sliced hand is fine? The tapered part of the doors looks nice, i really like tapered stuff. Also the idea of going over the cabinet edge could be a nice if it is done with accentuating design elements. This reminds me somewhat of the handle that flows in the leg in another fascinating woodworkers project.
Just curious, instead of matching cauls for the bent laminated part, can you just use one caul and apply pressure on the other side by putting it in your vacuum bag?
Absolutely could... if your bag is strong enough. But I bought my bag and pump years ago when I didn't have much money and bought the cheapest one I could afford. The bag would probably be fine but the pump is not strong enough to pull 5 lams down to the form.
If it looks or sounds stupid , but it works ... It ain't stupid! 😂 There's always more than one way to skin a cat! Nice layup and design. They're coming together nicely so far. As always, looking forward to seeing the final product. Funny what clicks in the design elements when you partially through a project that you hadn't even considered in the beginning and you're like "Yep, that'll look cool on the next project! 👍😎
Here is an upvote for doing things to avoid 3/4" (and 1/2" for that matter) off the rack wood dimensions in your product. The eye picks up on it and it says you did not use your full freedom of choice. It is similar to clichés in writing. Shows a lack of care and deliberation.
I guess my only question is? And you showed some concern with the humidity Florida .A Question is are you feeling good that the doors will hold up to all the moisture and humidity I must say your process is genius I love how it's all coming together great work
Thank you! I'm not too concerned with the Florida humidity, but that is why I'm using TB3 for everything. I'm always a little more aware when it's shipping to a different climate but I'm not overly concerned.
Is it serendipity that the doors resemble an open blouse or am I just being Freudian-man-brained? lol Great work as always sir. I want to start working with some curves ( >.< more Freud ) because I feel like my work is a bit TOO monolithic and Spartan. I wish I could get your feedback on my designs. Any reference material recommendations for design you can offer? Thanks for all your hard work,
Came here to comment something similar. He said it looks attractive. Well it looks like cleavage so I agree. Now as long as it has good posture and a sense of humor it'll be the full package.
I love your work and your concept. Have you ever looked at Pudalla Studios? He is a fellow UA-camr but is Australian. He uses a lot of curve work in his builds. Cheers from West Aus
I'm a bit disappointed by the comment section. Any video that has a title about something not being as hard as it seems that then shows using a shaper origin (or any other CNC) in the opening I fully expected to see a pile of negative comments. Completely undeserved of course a professional should use whatever professional tools they want to do their work but I was expecting some classics down here......:) Silly UA-cam stuff aside I am really enjoying this series! Your videos always make me head out into the shop to make something so thanks for sharing!!
No, it is deserved. Because saying something is easy when you have a machine that takes all the skill out of the process and does everything for you, is like saying starving peasants should just eat cake. It's completely out of touch. Professionals aren't watching these videos. Hobbyists who probably can't afford $4000 routers are.
It looks great. It’s a shame we couldn’t see the finished piece so if you’re not going to video the rest of the build maybe you can just include some pictures in the next video. Btw were you using a Home Depot gift card to spread glue? Lol What was that?
Oh I’ll share the finished piece when it’s done for sure. And yes, an old credit card with notches cut in to spread the glue before rolling. I find it just makes it a bit easier to get an even coat.
Curiosity question ... I notice that you run your table saw blade a lot higher than "safety recommends". No, I'm not "@ you" with this question. Just curious. I suspect I know the answer as I've played around with blade heights myself, but since I respect your work, thought I'd seek an answer from the horse's mouth so to speak.
Random question. But I trust your judgement, When resawing, let’s say you have an “average” tooth set on the blade, how much extra would you leave on the board when cutting, to account for getting rid of the saw marks so you can land on your desired measurement
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Good job,great
alright, that music intro with the slap absolutely SLAPPEEEDDD!
Just trying to make my videos as polished as yours one day brother 👊
I heard about WoodPrix instructions good opinions.
Yet another reason I love watching, listening, learning from you. Timestamp 15:09. You always poke and prod at bigger woodworking questions. Thanks!
Glad I took the time to watch. Reafirmed my thinking about mdf on doors. Also integrating door handles into my my self made veneers, Thanks!
I really like the idea of veneering MDF for a cabinet build, you have straight edges and it’s way cheaper than plywood, plus you could make your friends jealous if you give the impression that you “really” build all your workshop cabinets out of walnut 😜
Veneering opens up a world of possibilities that can't exist with solid wood. Would definitely recommend experimenting!
Bro. If you're "feeling good" you are indeed a "lucky man". Stay Chilled and Keep Making
Thanks, man! Appreciate that.
Your comment around the 30:00 mark about design serendipity is O-so-true. You never know when the design muse will strike; pay attention when it does. As you said, it may not be applicable for the particular piece you are working on, but it may very well work someplace else.
Exactly! It’s important to stay open to ideas at any stage.
@@ENCurtis when you test fitted the panels I immediately thought wow that looks like a great idea! It gave me Henry Van de Velde vibes, very nice for a future project
Great ideas!! I can’t wait to see the final piece !!
something I find interesting, woodworkers spend a lot of time pre-apologizing to the comment section. First time I heard one for bondo. I'm watching you because you're the expert do what you like :)
Appreciate you! Unfortunately the comment section is rough out here on the internet.
Another wicked build video!!! I love the over length of the doors!!(is that how you say it🤷🏾♂️)
Great video Erik,there are plenty of lessons for us to learn from the processes you have shown. Thank you for the video.👍👍
Thanks for watching, Terry! Appreciate you.
I love watching you create what's in your head. Great video!
Thank you!
Leaving thise parts to cut through the top and bottom of the case as "handles" was exactly what i saw when you set them in place. Would be a very interesting look. Great looking build thus far!
After watching Rick Basillo with his many veneering adventures, I've been contemplating a particular project for my Dad, and watching this cabinet build has been great prep for me. Keep up all the dope things you do, sir. I can't wait to see the completed piece.
Glad you found it helpful! Appreciate you my man.
Known as counter veneering. A lot of quality antique furniture was done in this way. Nice video. Best wishes. Al.
Thanks for another very info-taining video. I always appreciate explanations of your inspiration. I once wrapped a maple vanity with 2 parallel padauk veneer strips that ran across the top and "waterfalled" down the door. It looked amazing. My inspiration - the red racing stripes on a white Dodge Challenger. They ran the entire length of the car via the hood, roof and trunk. Thx again.
Thanks for explaining your process.
"process" is part of the "journey",. I agree, a maker explaining their "process/proceeses" is more enlightened than just "this is what I do; don't question it"
Thank you for the kind engagement my friend. It's much appreciated.
Thanks Eric. Take care & stay safe.
Thanks, will do!
Love seeing your process dude. The detail and planning of those doors is next level 🤙
Thank you!
sorry, but the coffee cup is the best part of your videos. LOLOL. (sarcasm for those that don't understand). 🤣
Your creativity is amazing!
Thank you!
I was initially wondering why you were using Tightbond III vs II. Then, you mentioned it going to Florida and worried about the humidity concerns. Thanks for explaining your process it well enough through this that questions get answered before the end of the video.
Haircut looks good!
Thanks man!
The "attachment reveal" just before your thumbs-up, was a real *oh snap!* moment for me. I just wasn't visualizing how it was all playing together. Seriously, this is a beautiful piece of art. The customer will love it!
Thanks my man! I hope they do like it!
Rob McElhenney is a man of many talents.
Great video! And I'm happy to see the Shaper Origin in action. Odd, eh?, that we can use a digital template to make a template to make another template. Cupla questions, if you've got time: do you use the CutList extension in SketchUp to make the .svg files for the Shaper Origin? (I'm still puzzling over how to work this.) And are you cutting all the way through the 3/4 MDF template for the 2nd template with shaper, or just half way and then bandsawing and template routing the 2nd to the first? I love the wide edge solid banding on the MDF to handle screws/hinges. And the curve on the doors is very nice. I'm assuming you're watching Nick Pedulla do a similar door, but his is also curved in another dimension.) Thanks again for really great demonstration of order of operations, even though you're ready to do some design on the fly.
Hey Eric I like to use a layer of cork or thin sheet of foam on my outer bending caul so it has the opportunity to compress slightly and take up any inconsistency that you were talking about
I've done that many times in the past. Sticky back cork is a fantastic resource to have in the shop--unfortunately I haven't had any on hand in a while... suppose I should change that!
@@ENCurtis I figured you would have! I guess when you’re as accurate a woodworker as you are you can get away without it haha
How's the neighbor's hand?
Thankfully she's just fine!
Such a cool concept. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good stuff as always, but the coffe cup on the mdf drove me nuts. ;-)
Loved "so.. are you dying... cus I am doing a glue up" 🤣
Hi Eric, what router base are you using when flush cutting edge frame??
Hope the friend's hand is OK. Nice video: interesting, informative entertaining.
Thank you! Yes I’m happy to report she’s doing just fine thankfully.
Thank you 😊
Thank you!
Hey next time you need 7/8’’ thick material use a mix of baltic birtch ply and 2 1/8’’ thick HDF this will give you something more structural and more stable. I always like to see tour video.
A couple spots in the video it looks like you are flushing up the edge banding by using a router on the face. You have. A large bace on it. What is the bit and set up? Do you have some feet on the base to allow you to slide over the lip and trim it? Thanks!
Yes it's a simple edge banding jig. Basically a 1/4" spacer under one side of the base plate lifts the router up, the set the router bit flush to the work surface. Then just hog away the material.
“Poplar veneer”, now that’s a phrase I thought I’d never hear. 😉
I’m surprised 1 inch MDF is hard to get in Philidelphia. Even in the tiny town I live in my supplier has it; maybe with a day or two delay if they’re out if stock and need to truck it over from their location in the big city.
Poplar veneer is great for adding thickness to material! Been using it for years. 1" MDF is easily available but I need 7/8" and planing MDF is just about the worst thing I can think to do 😂
At 19:20. It think you mean the radius is different along the arc. 2. As the thickness of the arced lamination grows, so does the radius (this math makes my head hurt too).?
Wait, you don't have a track saw? Great build man!
Random question. But I trust your judgement,
When resawing, let’s say you have an “average” tooth set on the blade, how much extra would you leave on the board when cutting, to account for getting rid of the saw marks so you can land on your desired measurement
I hope your neighbor with the sliced hand is fine? The tapered part of the doors looks nice, i really like tapered stuff. Also the idea of going over the cabinet edge could be a nice if it is done with accentuating design elements. This reminds me somewhat of the handle that flows in the leg in another fascinating woodworkers project.
Thankfully she was fine, yes. Just poor timing mid glue up 😂 Yes I think it would make for a really interesting sculptural element on a future piece!
@encurtis, I thought you were giving your Shaper away. Did i miss the episode where you announced the winner? Great episode, BTW. Thanks!
Have you considered Tricoya MDF for dimensional stability in different climate zones?
What part of Phila are you in. I grew up on 69th Street in SWP
Erik, if you didn't have the Domino, how would you have attached the laminate to the door core?
Pretty sweet
Not half bad 👊
I love this build! When Domino-ing the curved pieces, do you use the looser setting? If so, do you have the top or bottom tight for a reference? Thx.
Is it just a coincidence that you happen to be making a very similar piece to Pedulla Studio? Same shaped doors made with MDF and burk veneer.
Funny enough, yes. He and I were just chatting about that the other day. We saw each other's work and immediately DMd the other "dude..." 😂
@ENCurtis haha well there you go. Funny how that seems to happen hey.
Думаю что этому мастеру, больше подойдёт быть среди деловых людей и вести деловой разговор 👍👍👍🇹🇷
Just curious, instead of matching cauls for the bent laminated part, can you just use one caul and apply pressure on the other side by putting it in your vacuum bag?
Absolutely could... if your bag is strong enough. But I bought my bag and pump years ago when I didn't have much money and bought the cheapest one I could afford. The bag would probably be fine but the pump is not strong enough to pull 5 lams down to the form.
If it looks or sounds stupid , but it works ... It ain't stupid! 😂 There's always more than one way to skin a cat! Nice layup and design. They're coming together nicely so far. As always, looking forward to seeing the final product. Funny what clicks in the design elements when you partially through a project that you hadn't even considered in the beginning and you're like "Yep, that'll look cool on the next project! 👍😎
Haha exactly! Never know when inspiration will strike!
Where do you get 1/16" poplar veneers that wide???
Here is an upvote for doing things to avoid 3/4" (and 1/2" for that matter) off the rack wood dimensions in your product. The eye picks up on it and it says you did not use your full freedom of choice. It is similar to clichés in writing. Shows a lack of care and deliberation.
I guess my only question is? And you showed some concern with the humidity Florida .A Question is are you feeling good that the doors will hold up to all the moisture and humidity I must say your process is genius I love how it's all coming together great work
Thank you! I'm not too concerned with the Florida humidity, but that is why I'm using TB3 for everything. I'm always a little more aware when it's shipping to a different climate but I'm not overly concerned.
Is it serendipity that the doors resemble an open blouse or am I just being Freudian-man-brained? lol Great work as always sir. I want to start working with some curves ( >.< more Freud ) because I feel like my work is a bit TOO monolithic and Spartan. I wish I could get your feedback on my designs. Any reference material recommendations for design you can offer? Thanks for all your hard work,
Came here to comment something similar. He said it looks attractive. Well it looks like cleavage so I agree. Now as long as it has good posture and a sense of humor it'll be the full package.
somebody got a fresh haircut . . thanks for sharing this
Trynna keeps it trim my friend 😎
I love your work and your concept. Have you ever looked at Pudalla Studios? He is a fellow UA-camr but is Australian. He uses a lot of curve work in his builds. Cheers from West Aus
Absolutely. Nick is the type of woodworker I aspire to be.
Average humidity in my area is 70-77%. How does that effect drying time for 3" slabs?
Great question. Not sure. I would look at "Understanding Wood" by Bruce Hoadley for those types of answers.
I'm a bit disappointed by the comment section. Any video that has a title about something not being as hard as it seems that then shows using a shaper origin (or any other CNC) in the opening I fully expected to see a pile of negative comments. Completely undeserved of course a professional should use whatever professional tools they want to do their work but I was expecting some classics down here......:) Silly UA-cam stuff aside I am really enjoying this series! Your videos always make me head out into the shop to make something so thanks for sharing!!
No, it is deserved. Because saying something is easy when you have a machine that takes all the skill out of the process and does everything for you, is like saying starving peasants should just eat cake. It's completely out of touch. Professionals aren't watching these videos. Hobbyists who probably can't afford $4000 routers are.
I have trouble finding thick veneer. Where did you get yours?
make with bandsaw
Woodcraft stocks it. People use it for making laminated skateboards, apparently.
Certainly Wood is among the best places to buy veneers in the country these days. They're fantastic.
Could you please tell me the music name which you used in this video? @ENCurtis
Which song?
@@ENCurtis The music which is from starting of the video till :33 seconds
It looks great. It’s a shame we couldn’t see the finished piece so if you’re not going to video the rest of the build maybe you can just include some pictures in the next video. Btw were you using a Home Depot gift card to spread glue? Lol What was that?
Oh I’ll share the finished piece when it’s done for sure. And yes, an old credit card with notches cut in to spread the glue before rolling. I find it just makes it a bit easier to get an even coat.
@@ENCurtis Love it!
I've heard of artists who are willing to bleed for their work... but letting their neighbour bleed for their work is just scandalous !... 😮😂
😎👍☘️🍻
Too much veneering is never enough for such an expressive project.
I'm glad to hear that my friend cause there's plenty more of it to come 😂
Curiosity question ... I notice that you run your table saw blade a lot higher than "safety recommends". No, I'm not "@ you" with this question. Just curious. I suspect I know the answer as I've played around with blade heights myself, but since I respect your work, thought I'd seek an answer from the horse's mouth so to speak.
What was wrong with the person who interrupted? Sounded like a small medical issue?
Great video as always. :)
I would rather find the veneer first
Totally fair.
thank you EN . yes murphy will bite you in the butt however if you go home he will fallow you there so just hang in there we all get those days
Hahaha you're not wrong, Walter. Appreciate you sir!
Argh! My resaws never look that nice!
Haha bandsaw setup is a bit fickle but worth the time investment!
Dang you like to talk alot. 🤦🏽♂️
word.
Just like an elitist over complicating things
it's what I do best.
Where can I find the router surface jig brother?
Random question. But I trust your judgement,
When resawing, let’s say you have an “average” tooth set on the blade, how much extra would you leave on the board when cutting, to account for getting rid of the saw marks so you can land on your desired measurement