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@Beverly VinsonHi, There's a system "We" can use! "We the people...!"/"We..." the problem! "we" humans, got lazy, and let govs do our "duty" for us, w/ our "toys"! Please help us fix this! By Christmas! There's one extra way! Please consider! Young folks must employ this, too! "We" needs you! (A vet asking you millions of other Vets, to provide our backbone!)! Here; in a 21st century context! [Note: paraphrasing!]! For comprehensive contingencies managing! "Civil defense is emergency [contingencies] management!" (EMI / FEMA)! Using; CEM / [Comprehensive Contingencies Management: cyclical phases of: mitigation, preparedness, response, and recovery (EMI / FEMA)! Through an IEMS / Integrated [contingencies] Management System, which includes all sectors: private, public, and government (EMI / FEMA)! FEMA recommends we maintain secondary EOCs ( [contingencies] Operations Centers)! "We" can use that ! To build our own, for "We", as the "4th Branch!" And; "We" don't need anyone's permission! Over the decades, our govs have claimed everything "civil defense" as under "Civil Defense"; thus, under gov's authority and controls! And, "they" are not likely to let go of such absolute power! Thus; now it's called, "DHS / Dept. of Homeland Security, which is in authority over FEMA! [Note: your local DES Director can launch an FBI investigation on anyone, from spite, alone! Thus; Nazi capabilities and tactics!]! Folks, "civil defense" is "civilian"; thus, any human cashing a government paycheck, may be "civil government", but that $$$ represents a serious conflict of interest, especially for any person appointed as DES, or DHS Director, by the newly elected "party!" [Note, instances: A good FEMA Director, James Witt, ousted! Or; "Project Impact", w/ the goal, "to build disaster resistant communities!", ended by GW Bush! (Yes! It needed improvement; but, it focused on getting folks actively involved in our community's "civil defense" system!]! Thus; how to get back in, to take it back, and make it a good, civilian, perpetual, social system! Your/ our system is simple! Build a neutral / objective, liaison / logistics, "matrix " NGO! Where We" can plug in all the basic systems we need: internet capabilities, data, academics, etc. [Thus; a suggested name must equal it's goal, mission, and objective s! Connects all sectors, again... Clean and democratic! I highly recommend, the name: "DES" - "Support, Services, & Systems!" More later.]. (Imagine having your own NASA type control center capabilities; with, hands-on learning potential, within academics! Imagine clicking an icon, that takes you to your own contingencies management site, for any issues: maps, charts, graphs, reports, studies, data, surveys, polls, etc! A place to plug in your views!)! Start with, we millions of Vets, for a quick backbone! We are civilians, who know stuff, like tactics, strategies, a professional system! (And; I might add, the reason most of us departed after our first tour = hate for anything smelling like tyranny... bullies holding power ! Vets are only a quick place to start, where all can get involved, as part of a system with nominated / elected leadership, from among our best! Folk won't follow anyone less!). What I'm proposing, is the contingencies management system FEMA recommends! It's our back way, back into, "their" system; while, such actually belongs to "We"! Since; "we" ain't welcome through the front! "We" got lazy, and let "them" take over our responsibilities! "We" can take it back, very quickly... Basically, over night, from our homes! This NGO will provide us with an easy projects management capability, where we can all pick our areas of interest, and can contribute our voices! Where ""We" can map our governments, pick them apart, streamline them, clean out the excess, the filth, for an efficient respectable republic! From within a "Project" (eg, Voting), "we" can then choose "Mission" areas to study, and to contribute (who, when, where, what, which, why, how...)! Reviving this system will restore gov. oversight for "We"!... = Project - Whistles Blower - a buffer! = A place to speak our minds, in complete continuous safety, with the folks we chose to be available trusted options, to represent them, as middle buffers, who work to resolve issues. Not appointed by gov, "to help!" Note, the covert concept, "safety in enemies midst!" This is our way, to send in trustworthy folks, to "infiltrate" "their" systems, to end corruption! Thus; the legally accepted way! Point blank, and deliberately, in "their" faces! Now! By you and me! Over night! Again; "their" systems belongs to all of you! By birth! However, "We" must preserve a system of "Professional First Responders", too! Thus, "We" needs both! Thus; those under paycheck type restrictions, with the rest of us helping out, as we should be, anyway! "DES" is "Disaster & Emergency Services" (= gov / "Professional Responders"). While;... We can be the DES "Support, Services, & Systems" (thus; access, again!)! However, it's for humans, which means, inclusion! Thus; all !!! (I recommend a movie, for understanding. While the movie excludes "politicians", our's can not! In this, "We" must stomp ego out of it ... = no titles, labels, etc. When the movie ends, I invite you to help to create a contemporary version of that portrayed system! I suppose, in a great way, "We" can take up where they're drama left off, but I real life! "Meet John Doe", w/ Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwick). Note this! DHS is potentially illegal, because it's built on "the Civil Defense Act of 1950." Which states nothing of the private sector! Thus; along the way, we got lazy and let gov take over our responsibilities in "civil defense!" And; bad leaders have turned it into a gestapo, against us, in the name of "emergency management!" Note, the old 1964 Civil Defense manuals! Thus; "active and passive civil defense being integral to national security posture!" - "active" = "armed" "Minute....." - "passive" = facilities, personnel, Coms, etc. Thus; I highly recommend the Swiss example, built into our republic! Immediately! The gapping hole, the way in: FEMA is desperately trying to get folks involved in community [contingencies] management, to help! They created the CEM, the IEMS, EOCs, for all of this, to serve us. Which is their plea for "all sectors to be involved: public, private, and gov."! (Find a dictionary: - "civil" = non military, non police, non eclesia, ...! - "civil defense"...!) However; note the 1776 concept! "Minute man, woman, kid, elder" = neighborhood incident management ! = comprehensive contingencies management... Bring it into a 21st century context! Among us! To provide a simple basic way to have voice! Thus; "A well regulated [ comprehensive contingencies management system s]] being necessary to the [national security posture] of a free state, the right of the people to [employ a Swiss type system won't likely be] infringed!" [Note: I'm a Vet, '73-78, age 64, but I have not ever owned a firearm! Thus; I can't be call militia, since such is kind of a prerequisite... ! ... Or not??? I managed Armories, so l must claim, knowledge and experience, thereof! Nevertheless; stand the f... by, if "My Lady's" liberty is threatened! I'd rather do so through our accepted legal way!) This is the only way, to be accepted by DES, for us to gain complete access! "Their" system actually belongs to "civil defense"! To you! Look into the different titles it's had, since the 1940s! Read the dissertation about it, by: Boyce Wayne Blanchard. And; about his ride in FEMA, at EMI. Thus, FEMA development of grad degrees in such fields; and, requiring BAs, for EOC Directors...! Along the way, "their" system was no longer interested in "civilians"! You'll usually find the door bolted, now. The only way in, is by invitation or appointment, by gov officialdom! We can build our own. "They" need us, too! [I'm old and tech ignorant! But, I have tons of incredible info you need! I need to pass it on! I can support all I've written here, and have support letters and recommendations!] Also; most military personnel receive NCB Warfare Recon, in basic! "We" need those capabilities: to monitor, detect, contain, neutralize, and rescue humans from it! Use us to initiate a backbone... A standard! Please note: to those who have served in FET ! "We" need you to help us set this up, here, among mother's, sisters, daughters, grandmothers, families, neighborhoods...! Help us recon this virus, as well as other diseases, and to "clear areas", until "We" are safe, and beyond! Help us contend with contingencies! "Project" examples: ... Operations, Personnel, Projects, Admin, Finance (grant writers, for goodies "We" need for nailing down truth), our Web Sites (for info and participation, in this "4th Branch" system), Surveys, Polls, Voting, Community profiles [utilities, Logistics systems (roads, rails, shipping...), Medicine, S&R, Liaisons, Security, Solid & Liquid Waste, CEM (personnel, supplies, equipment, livestock, transport, storage...), Map government (so we can itemize where, and to who, our tax dollars go ....! Thus; Disaster & Emergency Services (Professional s) with "Support, Services, Systems" ("We") = better NCB Recon against chemical, biological, radiological, conventional warfare ( End diseases, pollution... !...)],... Continental Security, ... even Bigfoot (trust me!), Archeology (so folks can fill in what they've witnessed...), Anything! Everything! Standing by! Semper Fidelis! (jmheigis@gmail.com)
@Beverly Vinson Hi, Over 40 yrs researching "civil defense", trying to figure out how to make it, what it needed to be, down here where we live. I found what "We" need, but I need your help to get it beyond comments like this! It needs folks like you, to get it out to folks! What I found is sweet! You will like it! I'm old , tired, broke, broken, and "homeless" ( living in an old RV, in MT ); but, I have this, to give to you, and to "My Lady" Liberty, in the name of kindness! Folks; this needs you millions of Vets, to give it a start-up backbone, throughout neighborhoods, as available contact points, so to manage any incident, among ourselves, while gaining support, if wanted and needed. We can neutralize this virus, for ourselves, with President Biden's help, in getting us what we want and need, only when we want it; rather than, having or governments needing to enforce it on us! There's a way! Within a matrix NGO!
@Beverly Vinson Hi, "DES" - "SSS-NGO" "Project: FET (Here at home!) [ If you've served, in "Female Engagement Teams", "Lady Liberty" needs you, to get operational, here, with a mix of what you do, and this system I propose! I believe you can save the world, with it... Basically, over night! I give my word! ]! Missions: (Who, What, When, Where, Why, How) "Support, Services, and Systems" [ Matrix NGO w/ Site for "We"! ] To gain access again, into gov.... As "We"! Disaster and Emergency Services (gov. "Professional Responders") -- w/ "Support, Services and Systems" ("We"!)! "Demos-kratos, within a republic! "For, Of, BY"! A "separate, but equal", "4th Branch!" Humans! Thus; Your comprehensive contingencies management system! Through Your / Our 2ndary Operations Centers (NASA capable?)! FEMA recommends that communities maintain secondary "Primary EOCs!" No one says, "We" can't do that, "for them!". Like, "We" were meant too! The key being, in other documents, like within the "independent sentence" (grammar!), first part, of, the 2nd Amendment (with the "depend sentence", that follows, as "depending on the other!)... However, in a 21st century context... Check this out... The words they used, for what they did... What was a "militia"... And what where they talking about during all those neighborhood incident management "musterings?"... What happens, when folks gather, and work and talking together ... And learn one another... security, commerce, trade, liaison, logistics, training, exercise, current events, issues, politics, tactics, strategies, resources, theology, technologies, administration, organization, operations, deployments, medical, environment, legal, culture, ... "A well regulated [ comprehensive contingencies management system ] being necessary to the [ national security posture ] of a free state, the right of the people [ to employ a Swiss version, built into our republic, will not likely be ] infringed." "Manual Back-up Systems!" "Active and passive civil defense are integral to national security posture!" (OCD)! All the ground is well covered! You have the easy part!... To build "We", a neutral / objective, logistics / liaison, Matrix NGO, and the internet site assets "We" needs! [ I have a couple folks working on such.]. Get moms, daughters, sisters, friends, neighbors, grandmother's, great grandmothers, aunt's, co-workers... Connected!. Also, give we millions of other Vets, a place, to "check in", as neighborhood "OCPs", for NCB Warfare Recon, to corner this virus, and to rescue folks from it! Give "We" the system She needs to consolidate and coordinate resources, so to mechanize and empower demos-kratos within our republic! It is all there! Just do it! [ I can't, but I can help!]. [Note: the "We" reply to this, and/or, my other comments, to add more!]
@Beverly Vinson Hi, Our only option... Now! Here! For comprehensive contingencies managing! "Civil defense is emergency [contingencies] management!" (EMI / FEMA)! FEMA recommends we maintain secondary EOCs (Emergency / [contingencies] Operations Centers)! "We" can use that ! The name must equal it's goal, mission, and objective s! I highly recommend, the name: DES Support Systems! More later. (Imagine a NASA control center scattered around us, with hands-on within academics! ) Start with, we millions of Vets, for a quick backbone! We are civilians, who know stuff, like tactics, strategies, a professional system! (And; I might add, there's a reason most of us departed after our first tour = hate for anything smelling like tyranny... bullies holding power !!!) This is the contingencies management system FEMA recommends, from studies into ages of the obvious! Make it a logistics / liaison NGO! With a matrix organizational structure! To provide us with an easy projects management capability, where we can all pick our areas of interest, and can contribute our voices!.. From within a Project (eg, voting), "we" can then choose a Mission area to study, and to contribute (who, when, where, what, why, how...)! Reviving this system will restore oversight for "We"!.. = Project Whistles Blower - to install a buffer! = A place to speak our minds, in complete continuous safety, with folks we chose to be available trusted options, to represent them, as middle buffers, who work to resolve issues. Not appointed by gov, like what gov usually sends "to help!" Do you know, the spy saying, something like "safety being close in enemies midst, among them!" Thus; the legally accepted way! "DES" ... Support Systems "Disaster & Emergency Services" (= gov / "Professional Responders"). While;... ... We can be the "Support Systems" (thus; access, again!)! However, it's for humans, which means, inclusion! Thus; all !!! (I recommend a movie, to help with understanding. While the movie excludes "politicians", our's can not! "We" must stomp ego out it ... = no titles, labels, etc. When the movie ends, I invite you to help me to create this system!? I suppose, in a great way, that "We" can take up where they left off!? "Meet John Doe" W/ Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwick...) Note this! DHS is potentially illegal, because it's built on "the Civil Defense Act of 1950." Which states nothing of the private sector! Thus; along the way, we got lazy and let gov take over our responsibilities in "civil defense!" And; bad leaders have turned it into an armed paper tiger, against us, in the name of emergency management! Also note, the old 1964 Civil Defense manuals! Thus; "active and passive civil defense being crucial components of national security posture!" - "active" = "armed" "Minute..." - "passive" = facilities, Coms, etc. Thus; I highly recommend the Swiss example, built into our republic! Another hole (the gapping hole, the way in) FEMA is desperately trying to get folks involved in community emergency management, to help manage all disasters! They stated the creation of the CEM Comprehensive Emergency Management = (Cyclically phased: preparedness, response, recovery, and mitigation) And; The IEMS = "Integrated Emergency Management System!" Which is their plea for "all sectors to be involved: public, private, and government"! (Find a dictionary: - "civil" = non military, non police, non eclesia, ...! - "civil defense"...!) However; the concept! "Minute man, woman, kid, elder" = neighborhood incident management ! = comprehensive contingencies management Bring it into a 21st century context! Among us! To provide a simple basic way to have voice! "A well regulated [contingencies management system] being necessary to the [national security posture] of a free state, the right of the people to [employ a Swiss type system won't likely be] infringed!" [Note: I'm a Veteran '73-78, age 64, but I have not ever owned a firearm! Thus; I can't be call militia, since such is kind of a prerequisite... ! ... Or not??? I managed Armories, so l must claim, knowledge and experience, thereof! Nevertheless; stand the fuck by, if "My Lady" liberty is threatened! I'd rather do so through our accepted legal way to do so!) This is the only way, to be accepted by DES, for us to gain complete access! "Their" system actually belongs to "civil defense"! Look into the different titles it's had, since the 1940s! Read the dissertation about it, by: Boyce Wayne Blanchard. And; his ride in FEMA. Thus, FEMA development of grad degrees in such fields; and, requiring Bachelor degrees, for EOC Directors...! Along the way, "their" system was no longer interested in "civilians"! You'll usually find the door bolted now. The only way in is by invitation or appointment, by gov officialdom! Hell; I can't even get in any more! Haven't since after 9/11 ! Thus; fuck them! We can build our own. They need us, too! Join me! Help me! Like I stated! I'm old and tech ignorant! But, I have tons of incredible info you need! I need to pass it on! Oh! And I can support all I've written here, and have support letters and recommendations! Standing by! Semper Fidelis! (jmheigis@gmail.com)
@UCTW-WDPrBv6JHJ1_J0fUchw Hi, Update... "DES - SSS... Support, Services, and Systems! [ The titles is the key, into where "We" must go, to fix our "republic" machinery, from within... Legally, and Honorably! This title, always gives focus, as to, it's persistent, yet stable connection into that realm; because, it runs, in accordance with the true spirit of the rules ... By the letter... "... to save and protect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... !" Thus; a nice system, for managing any contingencies... By "their" books (assuming "they" be the "White Hatted", humane, folk). This system will help to back them up, when needed; while, only through choice; while, "We" work 24/7, among us, to do our part, to fix things, through our systems, to help folks!! There's a system, laying under dust... Bring it to life! Help me do this? To give our "Lady!", the full power of Her voice, as "We!" Through a system that isn't questioned, as much, as it goes along, reflecting our true opinions, on any issue, that directly concerns us, as well as for other s! For instance: Tax revenues for social infrastructural projects... Contracts... Local jobs... Needs... Oversight... Necessities... Utilities... "... social animals ..."... Need... "... social systems ..."... Thus: Food/Ag., Water (potable), Shelter, Shielding, Security, Air (unpolluted), turf (owned, rented, squatted, public, ...),... Anyway, I know, the three "S" thing... Bothersome... ! I figure, our positive actions within this, will give it a positive life of its own. Part of the problem has been navigating rules, to regain access, all the way in to NORAD..., if needed... But... !!! ... Such requires good people on our side, maintaining "access" "privileges", for mapping our governments, and all "their" activities. Starting, with the correct system for doing such. Where "We" track the corrupt... Or... If it's all above board... Good! With notations, recorded! This is where we gather pieces, while avoiding intrusion into privacy. From, a neighborhood incident management system perspective. Dare I say, it's where "We" verify the "fake news"! Thanks, for stating your mind! I'm concerned, too!
@BuckGreywolfe Would that include accepting the President of the US pressuring the leader of foreign country to interfere in a US election by with holding military aide?
@BuckGreywolfe And all those Republicans in congress and the senate just let him get away with it, and many of them were just re-elected, so now that kind of behavior is acceptable.
@Kent Turner Trump would not be able to understand Dr. Adler, because Trump would have covered his ears with his tiny hands all the while shaking his head, and singing " LALALALALALALALALA...."
He might, but the wording of the constitution also guarantees that he won't get away with it. And it's interesting to hear how the constitution was framed, nearly 300 years ago, to combat exactly this kind of abuse.
@@anahatamelodeon He got away from being removed from office after being impeached because the Senate didn't do its job. Why would this be any different?
@@anahatamelodeon So was the emoluments clause. And the prohibition to use U.S. forces inside the U.S. to protect the border. Trump laughs in the face of the Constitution and to date no one has stopped him from his blatant abuses.
A self pardon ultimately will fail but may serve to delay justice yet again by tying up the courts with endless debate and appeals. This has been his tool/weapon of choice for decades.
He will pardon himself, and his criminals, I meant children sorry. His goal will be to hold up any indictments, until it's kicked up, to the SCOTUS. A GOP stacked court will never allow a former president to be prosecuted federally. What needs to happen is to ratify the Constitution, and plug these legal loopholes. Unfortunately you'd need a DNC controlled Senate free of it's own grift. To sum it up as simply as possible, the Trump's of the world will always come out on top, until term limits are put into place, for the Senate, Congress, and SCOTUS.
Trump has so much against him...and the ones he got help from also have so much against them. Him and his republican criminal corruption do not have unlimited power. Because the Constitution and the Rule of Law...Rule. And America and Americans do not negotiate with Terrorists!
This man is talking about the spirit of the law: the intent. - He is speaking of how someone with integrity, and character, and scruples, and a conscience, and sense of shame would interperate the Constitution (let alone an understanding of history, or an overall interest in anything but one's self). So, needless to say, these finer points of interpretation escape Trump (and Barr, who is probably advising him on these matters - Barr was the architect of the pardoning of the Iran-Contra figures for G.H.W. Bush, following the Reagan admin.). But, it's not just Trump and Barr. The entire Relublican Party hijacked the Constitution - the one thing they swore allegiance to uphold and defend - in order to deny Obama a Supreme Court pick in 2015, and, consequently, to give that first, and, arguably, a third pick, to Trump: Gorsuch, in 2016, and Berrett in 2020. In general, the entire Relublican party has abandoned considerations of what they ought to do, what is right to do, and has instead been focusing their energy on what they CAN do, or can get away with. So, in this environment, Trump will pardon himself, and his family. But, it won't matter. The presidential pardon only protects from Federal prosecution - the state's can and will still prosecute.
no they were not. the media and democrats told you this and your democrat funded influencers did the same. Only problem is, you believed them. May you wake the F up so you can see you and people like you are being used like chumps of the globalists.
Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt of committing a crime so how can you have a pre-emptive pardon when the crime is being hidden by the criminal?
@@smcdonald9991 The NSA, CIA and FBI will have to keep a close eye on Trump and his hencemen after January 20. Top secrets are no longer safe. Trump would even give Melania to Putin to get debt restructuring.
That's part of the reason they didn't give the vote to the people. They gave it to the Electoral College, who were supposed to vote out someone like Trump. Didn't work though. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/the-electoral-college-was-meant-to-stop-men-like-trump-from-being-president/508310/
People need to reread the Constitution and Bill of Rights to prevent abuse or misunderstanding of what's happening now. In school, in Civics class, remember learning about the CHECKS AND BALANCES, etc. Apparently people who should know what this gentleman knows haven't read or reread it or the Bill of Rights.
I was pondering that statement Chump had made a few years ago. It did not seem possible that a sitting president could commit crimes, seen and unseen, be unaccountable to those knowingly covered up and silenced crimes. THANK YOU!! And I think Stone fed Chump lines of Nixon's possible way out of trying to "free himself" of uncouth behaviors of a president.....
No. The presidential pardon is enshrined in the Constitution and exists independently of other acts and powers of the President. It is fundamentally different from an executive order.
But, this discussion is pardoning of "Federal" crimes/offenses. The State of New York Attorney General and the Manhatten District Attorney are waiting until sometime after January 20, 2021, to "Invite"* Trump to participate in the legal proceedings against him. *Subpoena
Good luck with that when your star witness is a convicted liar. Then Trump takes them to court for the next ten years getting every subpoena dismissed for lack of probably cause. Or he just takes the 5th.
@@johnharris6655 The majority of evidence being used is financial records...from banks and the NY tax records submitted by Trump, et al. Inasmuch as "Taking the 5th," yes, no one can be compelled to give evidence against themself. However, if it is Trump who initiates a case, it is he who must provide evidence, and, yes, testify as to the merits of his case.
Over 40 yrs researching "civil defense", trying to figure out how to make it, what it needed to be, down here where we live. I found what "We" need, but I need your help to get it beyond comments like this! It needs folks like you, to get it out to folks! What I found is sweet! You will like it! I'm old , tired, broke, broken, and "homeless" ( living in an old RV, in MT ); but, I have this, to give to you, and to "My Lady" Liberty, in the name of kindness! Folks; this needs you millions of Vets, to give it a start-up backbone, throughout neighborhoods, as available contact points, so to manage any incident, among ourselves, while gaining support, if wanted and needed. We can neutralize this virus, for ourselves, with President Biden's help, in getting us what we want and need, only when we want it; rather than, having or governments needing to enforce it on us! There's a way! Within a matrix NGO!
I'd like you to address a related issue -- the pre-emptive pardon. This too seems to go against any reasonable understanding of justice and seems to fall under the same set of concerns expressed by George Mason. Even though precedent was set when Gerald Ford pre-emptively pardoned Richard Nixon, how can such a disruptive act be allowed to stand?
Question: since the founders had in depth conversation, arguments at time of writing of Constitution, and scholars know their intent now, would the Supreme Court members (if the argument of a Trump pardon came before them) go back to read the founders? and use their original intent? or just use the words in the Constitution?
Trump is a source of unending amusement for us British. Only he could have believed he had the power to pardon himself. He is, how the Americans say, nuts support by the crazies.
When a pardon is issued, the crime(s) for which you are being pardoned are described in the document. By accepting the pardon, you accept responsibility, i.e. guilt, for those crimes. Wonder if he understands that.
A first-class exposition of the clear intentions of the founders and, the various Constitutional safeguards used to prohibit self pardons. Many thanks, I am now convinced that any pardons granted by Trump to his co-conspirators will ultimately fail.
What I don't understand in the question is: How can a president pardon himself if he hasn't been convicted yet? If that is possible can he pardon himself or anyone for a crime he has not been accussed of or charged with? In other words can he pardon himself for a indefined crime? Because those are currently the case. And if that is possible he might as well pardon himself or anyone else for undefined crimes he hasn't committed yet.
If trump can pardon all his staffers that he told to ignore congressional subpoenas ... then isn't that taking away one of the check and balances of our government? what good is congress if anyone can ignore subpoenas they order?
Dr. Adler, your excellent dissertation on why a President cannot pardon him/herself overlooks the most fundamental of reasons. If the bedrock of a democracy is that "no man is above the law" that principle and the idea of democracy are meaningless if a president could self pardon. The only way someone could be above the law is if they could pardon themselves. To me, that elementary idea is all that is needed to demolish the absurd notion to even suggest that in a democratic system, the leader could self pardon. In fact, having no one above the law, is the only principle that separates us from being a Banana Republic, China, Russia now and during the Stalinist Era, Nazi Germany and all other despotic nations.
Two questions 1. Whet if he goes ahead and does it anyway? 2. If he does it -then who could and will challenge him legally?who has the standing to do so? The Senate or the House? I would assume the Supreme Court adjudicates the issue.
If the powers weresolely vested in the President (the executive branch) then there would be two other branches of government (legislative branch and judicial branch), the three branches are to serve as a check on each other.
My question is how would he pardon himself or his family or anyone else from a crime he hasn't been found guilty in the court of law yet? Is he saying that he is guilty before he goes to court for what he trying to pardon himself for?
Surely the 'defence of his own cause' would also preclude the preemptive pardons. Pardons should only be a defence of last resort applied after charges have been made and convictions applied. That way confidence can be had that all the evidence for the decision have been forensically investigated and examined. Anything less will always be open to corruption and tools of cover up.
What I have been asking, if a president can't be charged with a crime by state or local prosecutors then after dismissal of charges by the senate then he world be facing no charges now so how can he pardon himself before being indited for a crime and wouldn't he have to say what crimes he is pardoning himself for
All well and good. But what if Bonespur goes ahead and scatters pardons like confetti anyway, including one for himself? Does the incoming administration have the right, and, more importantly, the courage, to overturn any pardons which are granted contrary to the limits set out in the Constitution?
Issuing pardons might well backfire. Let’s say person A and Person B work together to commit a crime. Person B is given a pardon and then called to testify in a trial against person A. As he has a pardon he can not decline to answer on the grounds that he would be putting himself in legal jeopardy ( no taking the 5th). Giving pardons to close associates who know your “ secrets” might not be a very smart move.
The idea that a president has absolute power comes not from the US constitution, but from "Die Fuhrerprinzip" or the leadership principle. It meant each leader had absolute authority in his area and was responsible only to his superiors. This was first enunciated by Hermann, Graf von Keyserling, who ran a right-wing "think tank" in Darmstadt, and was taken up enthusiastically by the Nazi party and by the Freikorps, the militias which arose in defeated Germany. In the USA, the German-American Bund used the Fuhrerprinzip to justify not suing the Bundesfuhrer Fritz Kuhn who had embezzled their funds: but the New York DA thought otherwise and he was imprisoned, lost his citizenship and was eventually deported.
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@Beverly VinsonHi,
There's a system "We" can use!
"We the people...!"/"We..." the problem!
"we" humans, got lazy, and let govs do our "duty" for us, w/ our "toys"!
Please help us fix this! By Christmas!
There's one extra way! Please consider!
Young folks must employ this, too! "We" needs you!
(A vet asking you millions of other Vets, to provide our backbone!)!
Here; in a 21st century context! [Note: paraphrasing!]!
For comprehensive contingencies managing!
"Civil defense is emergency [contingencies] management!" (EMI / FEMA)!
Using; CEM / [Comprehensive Contingencies Management: cyclical phases of: mitigation, preparedness, response, and recovery (EMI / FEMA)!
Through an IEMS / Integrated [contingencies] Management System, which includes all sectors: private, public, and government (EMI / FEMA)!
FEMA recommends we maintain secondary EOCs ( [contingencies] Operations Centers)!
"We" can use that ! To build our own, for "We", as the "4th Branch!"
And; "We" don't need anyone's permission!
Over the decades, our govs have claimed everything "civil defense" as under "Civil Defense"; thus, under gov's authority and controls! And, "they" are not likely to let go of such absolute power!
Thus; now it's called, "DHS / Dept. of Homeland Security, which is in authority over FEMA!
[Note: your local DES Director can launch an FBI investigation on anyone, from spite, alone! Thus; Nazi capabilities and tactics!]!
Folks, "civil defense" is "civilian"; thus, any human cashing a government paycheck, may be "civil government", but that $$$ represents a serious conflict of interest, especially for any person appointed as DES, or DHS Director, by the newly elected "party!"
[Note, instances: A good FEMA Director, James Witt, ousted! Or; "Project Impact", w/ the goal, "to build disaster resistant communities!", ended by GW Bush! (Yes! It needed improvement; but, it focused on getting folks actively involved in our community's "civil defense" system!]!
Thus; how to get back in, to take it back, and make it a good, civilian, perpetual, social system!
Your/ our system is simple!
Build a neutral / objective, liaison / logistics, "matrix " NGO!
Where We" can plug in all the basic systems we need: internet capabilities, data, academics, etc.
[Thus; a suggested name must equal it's goal, mission, and objective s! Connects all sectors, again... Clean and democratic!
I highly recommend, the name: "DES" - "Support, Services, & Systems!" More later.].
(Imagine having your own NASA type control center capabilities; with, hands-on learning potential, within academics!
Imagine clicking an icon, that takes you to your own contingencies management site, for any issues: maps, charts, graphs, reports, studies, data, surveys, polls, etc! A place to plug in your views!)!
Start with, we millions of Vets, for a quick backbone! We are civilians, who know stuff, like tactics, strategies, a professional system!
(And; I might add, the reason most of us departed after our first tour = hate for anything smelling like tyranny... bullies holding power ! Vets are only a quick place to start, where all can get involved, as part of a system with nominated / elected leadership, from among our best! Folk won't follow anyone less!).
What I'm proposing, is the contingencies management system FEMA recommends!
It's our back way, back into, "their" system; while, such actually belongs to "We"!
Since; "we" ain't welcome through the front!
"We" got lazy, and let "them" take over our responsibilities!
"We" can take it back, very quickly... Basically, over night, from our homes!
This NGO will provide us with an easy projects management capability, where we can all pick our areas of interest, and can contribute our voices!
Where ""We" can map our governments, pick them apart, streamline them, clean out the excess, the filth, for an efficient respectable republic!
From within a "Project" (eg, Voting), "we" can then choose "Mission" areas to study, and to contribute (who, when, where, what, which, why, how...)!
Reviving this system will restore gov. oversight for "We"!...
= Project - Whistles Blower
- a buffer!
= A place to speak our minds, in complete continuous safety, with the folks we chose to be available trusted options, to represent them, as middle buffers, who work to resolve issues. Not appointed by gov, "to help!"
Note, the covert concept, "safety in enemies midst!"
This is our way, to send in trustworthy folks, to "infiltrate" "their" systems, to end corruption!
Thus; the legally accepted way! Point blank, and deliberately, in "their" faces! Now! By you and me! Over night!
Again; "their" systems belongs to all of you! By birth!
However, "We" must preserve a system of "Professional First Responders", too! Thus, "We" needs both!
Thus; those under paycheck type restrictions, with the rest of us helping out, as we should be, anyway!
"DES" is "Disaster & Emergency Services" (= gov / "Professional Responders").
While;...
We can be the DES "Support, Services, & Systems" (thus; access, again!)!
However, it's for humans, which means, inclusion! Thus; all !!!
(I recommend a movie, for understanding. While the movie excludes "politicians", our's can not! In this, "We" must stomp ego out of it ... = no titles, labels, etc.
When the movie ends, I invite you to help to create a contemporary version of that portrayed system!
I suppose, in a great way, "We" can take up where they're drama left off, but I real life!
"Meet John Doe", w/ Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwick).
Note this!
DHS is potentially illegal, because it's built on "the Civil Defense Act of 1950." Which states nothing of the private sector! Thus; along the way, we got lazy and let gov take over our responsibilities in "civil defense!"
And; bad leaders have turned it into a gestapo, against us, in the name of "emergency management!"
Note, the old 1964 Civil Defense manuals!
Thus; "active and passive civil defense being integral to national security posture!"
- "active" = "armed" "Minute....."
- "passive" = facilities, personnel, Coms, etc.
Thus; I highly recommend the Swiss example, built into our republic! Immediately!
The gapping hole, the way in: FEMA is desperately trying to get folks involved in community [contingencies] management, to help!
They created the CEM, the IEMS, EOCs, for all of this, to serve us.
Which is their plea for "all sectors to be involved: public, private, and gov."!
(Find a dictionary:
- "civil" = non military, non police, non eclesia, ...!
- "civil defense"...!)
However; note the 1776 concept!
"Minute man, woman, kid, elder"
= neighborhood incident management !
= comprehensive contingencies management...
Bring it into a 21st century context! Among us!
To provide a simple basic way to have voice!
Thus;
"A well regulated [ comprehensive contingencies management system s]] being necessary to the [national security posture] of a free state, the right of the people to [employ a Swiss type system won't likely be] infringed!"
[Note: I'm a Vet, '73-78, age 64, but I have not ever owned a firearm! Thus; I can't be call militia, since such is kind of a prerequisite... ! ... Or not???
I managed Armories, so l must claim, knowledge and experience, thereof! Nevertheless; stand the f... by, if "My Lady's" liberty is threatened!
I'd rather do so through our accepted legal way!)
This is the only way, to be accepted by DES, for us to gain complete access!
"Their" system actually belongs to "civil defense"! To you!
Look into the different titles it's had, since the 1940s!
Read the dissertation about it, by: Boyce Wayne Blanchard. And; about his ride in FEMA, at EMI.
Thus, FEMA development of grad degrees in such fields; and, requiring BAs, for EOC Directors...!
Along the way, "their" system was no longer interested in "civilians"! You'll usually find the door bolted, now. The only way in, is by invitation or appointment, by gov officialdom!
We can build our own. "They" need us, too!
[I'm old and tech ignorant! But, I have tons of incredible info you need!
I need to pass it on!
I can support all I've written here, and have support letters and recommendations!]
Also; most military personnel receive NCB Warfare Recon, in basic! "We" need those capabilities: to monitor, detect, contain, neutralize, and rescue humans from it!
Use us to initiate a backbone... A standard!
Please note: to those who have served in FET ! "We" need you to help us set this up, here, among mother's, sisters, daughters, grandmothers, families, neighborhoods...!
Help us recon this virus, as well as other diseases, and to "clear areas", until "We" are safe, and beyond! Help us contend with contingencies!
"Project" examples: ...
Operations, Personnel, Projects, Admin, Finance (grant writers, for goodies "We" need for nailing down truth), our Web Sites (for info and participation, in this "4th Branch" system), Surveys, Polls, Voting, Community profiles [utilities, Logistics systems (roads, rails, shipping...), Medicine, S&R, Liaisons, Security, Solid & Liquid Waste, CEM (personnel, supplies, equipment, livestock, transport, storage...), Map government (so we can itemize where, and to who, our tax dollars go ....!
Thus; Disaster & Emergency Services (Professional s) with "Support, Services, Systems" ("We") = better NCB Recon against chemical, biological, radiological, conventional warfare ( End diseases, pollution... !...)],...
Continental Security, ... even Bigfoot (trust me!), Archeology (so folks can fill in what they've witnessed...), Anything! Everything!
Standing by! Semper Fidelis!
(jmheigis@gmail.com)
@Beverly Vinson Hi,
Over 40 yrs researching "civil defense", trying to figure out how to make it, what it needed to be, down here where we live. I found what "We" need, but I need your help to get it beyond comments like this! It needs folks like you, to get it out to folks! What I found is sweet! You will like it! I'm old , tired, broke, broken, and "homeless" ( living in an old RV, in MT ); but, I have this, to give to you, and to "My Lady" Liberty, in the name of kindness!
Folks; this needs you millions of Vets, to give it a start-up backbone, throughout neighborhoods, as available contact points, so to manage any incident, among ourselves, while gaining support, if wanted and needed. We can neutralize this virus, for ourselves, with President Biden's help, in getting us what we want and need, only when we want it; rather than, having or governments needing to enforce it on us! There's a way! Within a matrix NGO!
@Beverly Vinson Hi,
"DES" - "SSS-NGO" "Project: FET (Here at home!)
[ If you've served, in "Female Engagement Teams", "Lady Liberty" needs you, to get operational, here, with a mix of what you do, and this system I propose! I believe you can save the world, with it... Basically, over night! I give my word! ]!
Missions: (Who, What, When, Where, Why, How)
"Support, Services, and Systems"
[ Matrix NGO w/ Site for "We"! ]
To gain access again, into gov.... As "We"!
Disaster and Emergency Services (gov. "Professional Responders") -- w/
"Support, Services and Systems" ("We"!)!
"Demos-kratos, within a republic! "For, Of, BY"!
A "separate, but equal", "4th Branch!" Humans!
Thus; Your comprehensive contingencies management system!
Through Your / Our 2ndary Operations Centers (NASA capable?)!
FEMA recommends that communities maintain secondary "Primary EOCs!"
No one says, "We" can't do that, "for them!". Like, "We" were meant too!
The key being, in other documents, like within the "independent sentence" (grammar!), first part, of, the 2nd Amendment (with the "depend sentence", that follows, as "depending on the other!)...
However, in a 21st century context...
Check this out... The words they used, for what they did... What was a "militia"... And what where they talking about during all those neighborhood incident management "musterings?"... What happens, when folks gather, and work and talking together ... And learn one another... security, commerce, trade, liaison, logistics, training, exercise, current events, issues, politics, tactics, strategies, resources, theology, technologies, administration, organization, operations, deployments, medical, environment, legal, culture, ...
"A well regulated [ comprehensive contingencies management system ] being necessary to the [ national security posture ] of a free state, the right of the people [ to employ a Swiss version, built into our republic, will not likely be ] infringed."
"Manual Back-up Systems!"
"Active and passive civil defense are integral to national security posture!" (OCD)!
All the ground is well covered!
You have the easy part!... To build "We", a neutral / objective, logistics / liaison, Matrix NGO, and the internet site assets "We" needs!
[ I have a couple folks working on such.].
Get moms, daughters, sisters, friends, neighbors, grandmother's, great grandmothers, aunt's, co-workers... Connected!.
Also, give we millions of other Vets, a place, to "check in", as neighborhood "OCPs", for NCB Warfare Recon, to corner this virus, and to rescue folks from it!
Give "We" the system She needs to consolidate and coordinate resources, so to mechanize and empower demos-kratos within our republic!
It is all there! Just do it!
[ I can't, but I can help!].
[Note: the "We" reply to this, and/or, my other comments, to add more!]
@Beverly Vinson Hi,
Our only option... Now!
Here! For comprehensive contingencies managing!
"Civil defense is emergency [contingencies] management!" (EMI / FEMA)!
FEMA recommends we maintain secondary EOCs (Emergency / [contingencies] Operations Centers)!
"We" can use that !
The name must equal it's goal, mission, and objective s!
I highly recommend, the name: DES Support Systems! More later.
(Imagine a NASA control center scattered around us, with hands-on within academics! )
Start with, we millions of Vets, for a quick backbone! We are civilians, who know stuff, like tactics, strategies, a professional system!
(And; I might add, there's a reason most of us departed after our first tour = hate for anything smelling like tyranny... bullies holding power !!!)
This is the contingencies management system FEMA recommends, from studies into ages of the obvious!
Make it a logistics / liaison NGO!
With a matrix organizational structure!
To provide us with an easy projects management capability, where we can all pick our areas of interest, and can contribute our voices!..
From within a Project (eg, voting), "we" can then choose a Mission area to study, and to contribute (who, when, where, what, why, how...)!
Reviving this system will restore oversight for "We"!..
= Project Whistles Blower
- to install a buffer!
= A place to speak our minds, in complete continuous safety, with folks we chose to be available trusted options, to represent them, as middle buffers, who work to resolve issues. Not appointed by gov, like what gov usually sends "to help!"
Do you know, the spy saying, something like "safety being close in enemies midst, among them!"
Thus; the legally accepted way!
"DES" ... Support Systems
"Disaster & Emergency Services" (= gov / "Professional Responders").
While;...
... We can be the "Support Systems" (thus; access, again!)!
However, it's for humans, which means, inclusion! Thus; all !!!
(I recommend a movie, to help with understanding. While the movie excludes "politicians", our's can not! "We" must stomp ego out it ... = no titles, labels, etc.
When the movie ends, I invite you to help me to create this system!?
I suppose, in a great way, that "We" can take up where they left off!?
"Meet John Doe" W/ Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwick...)
Note this!
DHS is potentially illegal, because it's built on "the Civil Defense Act of 1950." Which states nothing of the private sector! Thus; along the way, we got lazy and let gov take over our responsibilities in "civil defense!"
And; bad leaders have turned it into an armed paper tiger, against us, in the name of emergency management!
Also note, the old 1964 Civil Defense manuals!
Thus; "active and passive civil defense being crucial components of national security posture!"
- "active" = "armed" "Minute..."
- "passive" = facilities, Coms, etc.
Thus; I highly recommend the Swiss example, built into our republic!
Another hole (the gapping hole, the way in) FEMA is desperately trying to get folks involved in community emergency management, to help manage all disasters!
They stated the creation of the CEM Comprehensive Emergency Management
= (Cyclically phased: preparedness, response, recovery, and mitigation)
And;
The IEMS = "Integrated Emergency Management System!"
Which is their plea for "all sectors to be involved: public, private, and government"!
(Find a dictionary:
- "civil" = non military, non police, non eclesia, ...!
- "civil defense"...!)
However; the concept!
"Minute man, woman, kid, elder"
= neighborhood incident management !
= comprehensive contingencies management
Bring it into a 21st century context!
Among us!
To provide a simple basic way to have voice!
"A well regulated [contingencies management system] being necessary to the [national security posture] of a free state, the right of the people to [employ a Swiss type system won't likely be] infringed!"
[Note: I'm a Veteran '73-78, age 64, but I have not ever owned a firearm! Thus; I can't be call militia, since such is kind of a prerequisite... ! ... Or not???
I managed Armories, so l must claim, knowledge and experience, thereof! Nevertheless; stand the fuck by, if "My Lady" liberty is threatened!
I'd rather do so through our accepted legal way to do so!)
This is the only way, to be accepted by DES, for us to gain complete access!
"Their" system actually belongs to "civil defense"!
Look into the different titles it's had, since the 1940s!
Read the dissertation about it, by:
Boyce Wayne Blanchard.
And; his ride in FEMA.
Thus, FEMA development of grad degrees in such fields; and, requiring Bachelor degrees, for EOC Directors...!
Along the way, "their" system was no longer interested in "civilians"! You'll usually find the door bolted now. The only way in is by invitation or appointment, by gov officialdom!
Hell; I can't even get in any more! Haven't since after 9/11 !
Thus; fuck them! We can build our own. They need us, too!
Join me! Help me!
Like I stated! I'm old and tech ignorant! But, I have tons of incredible info you need!
I need to pass it on!
Oh! And I can support all I've written here, and have support letters and recommendations!
Standing by!
Semper Fidelis!
(jmheigis@gmail.com)
@UCTW-WDPrBv6JHJ1_J0fUchw Hi,
Update...
"DES - SSS...
Support, Services, and Systems!
[ The titles is the key, into where "We" must go, to fix our "republic" machinery, from within... Legally, and Honorably!
This title, always gives focus, as to, it's persistent, yet stable connection into that realm; because, it runs, in accordance with the true spirit of the rules ... By the letter... "... to save and protect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness... !"
Thus; a nice system, for managing any contingencies...
By "their" books (assuming "they" be the "White Hatted", humane, folk).
This system will help to back them up, when needed; while, only through choice; while, "We" work 24/7, among us, to do our part, to fix things, through our systems, to help folks!!
There's a system, laying under dust...
Bring it to life!
Help me do this?
To give our "Lady!", the full power of Her voice, as "We!"
Through a system that isn't questioned, as much, as it goes along, reflecting our true opinions, on any issue, that directly concerns us, as well as for other s!
For instance: Tax revenues for social infrastructural projects... Contracts... Local jobs... Needs... Oversight... Necessities... Utilities...
"... social animals ..."...
Need...
"... social systems ..."...
Thus: Food/Ag., Water (potable), Shelter, Shielding, Security, Air (unpolluted), turf (owned, rented, squatted, public, ...),...
Anyway,
I know, the three "S" thing... Bothersome... !
I figure, our positive actions within this, will give it a positive life of its own.
Part of the problem has been navigating rules, to regain access, all the way in to NORAD..., if needed... But... !!! ... Such requires good people on our side, maintaining "access" "privileges", for mapping our governments, and all "their" activities. Starting, with the correct system for doing such.
Where "We" track the corrupt...
Or...
If it's all above board... Good!
With notations, recorded!
This is where we gather pieces, while avoiding intrusion into privacy.
From, a neighborhood incident management system perspective.
Dare I say, it's where "We" verify the "fake news"!
Thanks, for stating your mind!
I'm concerned, too!
I never would have dream that we're even having this discussion in the U.S. We have fallen so far.
To the world, the United States of America has become an excellent example of HOW NOT to run a democracy.
@BuckGreywolfe My fear is that Trump has normalized the outrageous and autocratic.
@Walt Schmidt I always love watching these Trumpees talk about swamp as Trump and his family mixes presidential power and business on a weekly basis.
@BuckGreywolfe Would that include accepting the President of the US pressuring the leader of foreign country to interfere in a US election by with holding military aide?
@BuckGreywolfe And all those Republicans in congress and the senate just let him get away with it, and many of them were just re-elected, so now that kind of behavior is acceptable.
Thank you Dr Adler for expressing a point of view, vital in educating people.
Indeed my friend.
@Kent Turner this.....is absolutely true
@Kent Turner Trump would not be able to understand Dr. Adler, because Trump would have covered his ears with his tiny hands all the while shaking his head, and singing " LALALALALALALALALA...."
OK, so its not constitutional or ethical ...... pretty much guarrantees he will try it.
He might, but the wording of the constitution also guarantees that he won't get away with it. And it's interesting to hear how the constitution was framed, nearly 300 years ago, to combat exactly this kind of abuse.
@@anahatamelodeon He got away from being removed from office after being impeached because the Senate didn't do its job. Why would this be any different?
Yep, his response to concerns about ethics, right and wrong, etc. would be, "So, what's your point?"
@@anahatamelodeon So was the emoluments clause. And the prohibition to use U.S. forces inside the U.S. to protect the border. Trump laughs in the face of the Constitution and to date no one has stopped him from his blatant abuses.
At the very least, if Trump attempts to pardon himself, it's going to be interesting what happens latter.
It is refreshing to hear the voice of reasoned logic calmly explaining the facts of life.
Oh! Outstanding report!
Thank you, Sir!
Thank you for clearing that up he does not deserve to be pardoned at all
Thank you Dr. Adler.
For this great information.
Indeed.
Such a relief - so thank you Sir.
A self pardon ultimately will fail but may serve to delay justice yet again by tying up the courts with endless debate and appeals. This has been his tool/weapon of choice for decades.
He will pardon himself, and his criminals, I meant children sorry. His goal will be to hold up any indictments, until it's kicked up, to the SCOTUS. A GOP stacked court will never allow a former president to be prosecuted federally. What needs to happen is to ratify the Constitution, and plug these legal loopholes. Unfortunately you'd need a DNC controlled Senate free of it's own grift. To sum it up as simply as possible, the Trump's of the world will always come out on top, until term limits are put into place, for the Senate, Congress, and SCOTUS.
He going to need lots of cash for lawyer to represent him once he out of the office. No more donation from his supporters.
any "pardon" is an admission of guilt!
We all know he will do it anyway. The only question is whether the country will let him get away with it.
Trump has so much against him...and the ones he got help from also have so much against them. Him and his republican criminal corruption do not have unlimited power. Because the Constitution and the Rule of Law...Rule. And America and Americans do not negotiate with Terrorists!
This man is talking about the spirit of the law: the intent. - He is speaking of how someone with integrity, and character, and scruples, and a conscience, and sense of shame would interperate the Constitution (let alone an understanding of history, or an overall interest in anything but one's self). So, needless to say, these finer points of interpretation escape Trump (and Barr, who is probably advising him on these matters - Barr was the architect of the pardoning of the Iran-Contra figures for G.H.W. Bush, following the Reagan admin.). But, it's not just Trump and Barr. The entire Relublican Party hijacked the Constitution - the one thing they swore allegiance to uphold and defend - in order to deny Obama a Supreme Court pick in 2015, and, consequently, to give that first, and, arguably, a third pick, to Trump: Gorsuch, in 2016, and Berrett in 2020. In general, the entire Relublican party has abandoned considerations of what they ought to do, what is right to do, and has instead been focusing their energy on what they CAN do, or can get away with. So, in this environment, Trump will pardon himself, and his family. But, it won't matter. The presidential pardon only protects from Federal prosecution - the state's can and will still prosecute.
Rules were broken everyday for the last 4 years, why would it stopped now.
no they were not. the media and democrats told you this and your democrat funded influencers did the same. Only problem is, you believed them. May you wake the F up so you can see you and people like you are being used like chumps of the globalists.
And yet here we are Dec 3rd, with that very thing happening. Trump is pardoning all his flunkies.
Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt of committing a crime so how can you have a pre-emptive pardon when the crime is being hidden by the criminal?
If he or his children committed a crime and were charged can they still run for president? I thought to qualify you had to have a clean record 🤔
@@teresafandych379 Felony only ?
Thank GOD for The Founding Fathers and their keen logic and intellectual prowess.
America has been in a state of chaos because of Trump, much to Putin's satisfaction.
Don’t e nice about it
Trump has performed well beyond the Kremlin's wildest expectations.
@@smcdonald9991 The NSA, CIA and FBI will have to keep a close eye on Trump and his hencemen after January 20. Top secrets are no longer safe. Trump would even give Melania to Putin to get debt restructuring.
You ain’t seen nothing yet, hang on, Joe and “always laughing Kamala” are on their way!
Chris Zealotes love to see proof of that allegation. Got proof?
Our ancestors knew someone like Drump would come along.
That's part of the reason they didn't give the vote to the people. They gave it to the Electoral College, who were supposed to vote out someone like Trump. Didn't work though.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/the-electoral-college-was-meant-to-stop-men-like-trump-from-being-president/508310/
Why isn't Dr. Adler on every MSM channel night and day?
I am deeply grateful for your gracious, sharing of theses four strong points, in facts that absolutely do not mince words. Thank you.
Thank you for posting "real" information! Much needed in this time of druph!
Sure, he can pardon himself, but his pardon would never hold up in a court of law.
Very interesting Dr Adler. Thank you Sir.
Thanks for the great class !! The Supreme Court voiding a Trump self pardon would be just another nail in his coffin ! ! ! !
"seriously grotesque" that's rumpt in a nutshell, so we expect him to pardon himself
“To hell with the system” sounds exactly like what Benedict Donald would say.
People need to reread the Constitution and Bill of Rights to prevent abuse or misunderstanding of what's happening now. In school, in Civics class, remember learning about the CHECKS AND BALANCES, etc. Apparently people who should know what this gentleman knows haven't
read or reread it or the Bill of Rights.
Nice to hear someone talk real...thank you
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT BIT OF INFO!!! I REALLY LEARNED SOMETHING!!
I was pondering that statement Chump had made a few years ago.
It did not seem possible that a sitting president could commit crimes, seen and unseen, be unaccountable to those knowingly covered up and silenced crimes.
THANK YOU!!
And I think Stone fed Chump lines of Nixon's possible way out of trying to "free himself" of uncouth behaviors of a president.....
Thankyou for this scholarly explanation of a concern many of us have had lately.
I have one question for you. Are not presidential pardons actually executive orders? If so, the incoming president can ignore or reverse them. Yes?
No. The presidential pardon is enshrined in the Constitution and exists independently of other acts and powers of the President. It is fundamentally different from an executive order.
But, this discussion is pardoning of "Federal" crimes/offenses. The State of New York Attorney General and the Manhatten District Attorney are waiting until sometime after January 20, 2021, to "Invite"* Trump to participate in the legal proceedings against him.
*Subpoena
Good luck with that when your star witness is a convicted liar. Then Trump takes them to court for the next ten years getting every subpoena dismissed for lack of probably cause. Or he just takes the 5th.
@@johnharris6655 The majority of evidence being used is financial records...from banks and the NY tax records submitted by Trump, et al. Inasmuch as "Taking the 5th," yes, no one can be compelled to give evidence against themself. However, if it is Trump who initiates a case, it is he who must provide evidence, and, yes, testify as to the merits of his case.
Dr. David Adle You the Man sir! Thank you!!
Hope you and any others who have the same believe will stand up to be counted when the time comes. Good on all of you.
Thank you for that detailed explanation and sound judgment.
Great, informative discourse..!
Instant sub for you.
Thank you Sir, much appreciated.
Over 40 yrs researching "civil defense", trying to figure out how to make it, what it needed to be, down here where we live. I found what "We" need, but I need your help to get it beyond comments like this! It needs folks like you, to get it out to folks! What I found is sweet! You will like it! I'm old , tired, broke, broken, and "homeless" ( living in an old RV, in MT ); but, I have this, to give to you, and to "My Lady" Liberty, in the name of kindness!
Folks; this needs you millions of Vets, to give it a start-up backbone, throughout neighborhoods, as available contact points, so to manage any incident, among ourselves, while gaining support, if wanted and needed. We can neutralize this virus, for ourselves, with President Biden's help, in getting us what we want and need, only when we want it; rather than, having or governments needing to enforce it on us! There's a way! Within a matrix NGO!
Thanks for sharing, This really makes me feel better.
That was a great explanation.
I need your help, to get this "operational"!
Great explanation. Thank you sir.
If you are allowed to Pardon yourself everybody in prison should get up and break out!!!
Since his kids shouldn't be working in the Whitehouse they shouldn't be pardon either.
I'd like you to address a related issue -- the pre-emptive pardon. This too seems to go against any reasonable understanding of justice and seems to fall under the same set of concerns expressed by George Mason. Even though precedent was set when Gerald Ford pre-emptively pardoned Richard Nixon, how can such a disruptive act be allowed to stand?
So refreshing to hear your point of view thank you
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thanks for this informative video!
Question: since the founders had in depth conversation, arguments at time of writing of Constitution, and scholars know their intent now, would the Supreme Court members (if the argument of a Trump pardon came before them) go back to read the founders? and use their original intent? or just use the words in the Constitution?
This video flies in my face!
Haha!
Thank you for this video.
Trump is a source of unending amusement for us British. Only he could have believed he had the power to pardon himself. He is, how the Americans say, nuts support by the crazies.
Who edited this??? There are audio hiccups and double layering at a few spots. Check out 4:41. This is pretty amateur here
Thank you for stating the facts of the constitution!!
Thanks for this video.
thank you for this clarification
He was inpeached and according to the Muller's report we can't indict as sitting president extremely troubling especially during the current pandemic
This should be mandatory viewing.
Thanks. No bs just straight up truth of why our writers of our constitution took everything into consideration, it's like they knew someday ....
I always thought that he couldn't do that thank you for that share
When a pardon is issued, the crime(s) for which you are being pardoned are described in the document. By accepting the pardon, you accept responsibility, i.e. guilt, for those crimes. Wonder if he understands that.
David. What about if he invokes Martial Law?
This man is informative and interesting.
Thankyou sir
A first-class exposition of the clear intentions of the founders and, the various Constitutional safeguards used to prohibit self pardons. Many thanks, I am now convinced that any pardons granted by Trump to his co-conspirators will ultimately fail.
Thanks
What I don't understand in the question is:
How can a president pardon himself if he hasn't been convicted yet?
If that is possible can he pardon himself or anyone for a crime he has not been accussed of or charged with? In other words can he pardon himself for a indefined crime?
Because those are currently the case.
And if that is possible he might as well pardon himself or anyone else for undefined crimes he hasn't committed yet.
If trump can pardon all his staffers that he told to ignore congressional subpoenas ... then isn't that taking away one of the check and balances of our government? what good is congress if anyone can ignore subpoenas they order?
Dr. Adler, your excellent dissertation on why a President cannot pardon him/herself overlooks the most fundamental of reasons. If the bedrock of a democracy is that "no man is above the law"
that principle and the idea of democracy are meaningless if a president could self pardon. The only way someone could be above the law is if they could pardon themselves.
To me, that elementary idea is all that is needed to demolish the absurd notion to even suggest that in a democratic system, the leader could self pardon. In fact, having no one above the law, is the only principle that separates us from being a Banana Republic, China, Russia now and during the Stalinist Era, Nazi Germany and all other despotic nations.
Two questions
1. Whet if he goes ahead and does it anyway?
2. If he does it -then who could and will challenge him legally?who has the standing to do so? The Senate or the House? I would assume the Supreme Court adjudicates the issue.
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... thax from Berlin ! ...
What a shame we even have to discuss this matter at all.
I read (Politico ?) that a pardon is granted. "granting" has always meant, that somebody gives something to SOMEBODY ELSE. Your opinion ?
Thank u for easing my mind. I've been sick abt this since I 1st heard him say it.
It good to hear this
WHAT WOULD HE PARDON HIMSELF FOR?????
2:16 And in those words Donald J. Trump is described.
Thank You for a clear argument.
But(not my idea), what if, in his final days, trump pardons pence, resigns, then pence pardons trump? Hmmm???
Then he would have briefly been America's first Dictator.
"Would be grotest" that word fit so well to your president!
... correctly said based on the framers’ legislative intent !
well said!!
Reason number 2 begs the question, can an ex president be impeached and if found guilty, would his pardons be invalid ?
If the powers weresolely vested in the President (the executive branch) then there would be two other branches of government (legislative branch and judicial branch), the three branches are to serve as a check on each other.
Very informative video. I will not be surprised if Trump resigns and Pence gives him a pardon. Ford set the president for this pardon.
Thank you 😊 it’s so confusing,
One of the few videos without any distasteful comments about liberal lies and democrat flimflam
That's because trumpsters are too stupid to comprehend what this intelligent, educated man is saying. They aren't going to be watching this.
It would be interesting to see what those "originalist" conversative judges on Supreme Court say about self-pardon.
Thanks for your thoughts on this... but if it ain't in writing... and is just assumed ... trump will try anything and push this all the way to the SC
Does this apply to Joe?
Sorry Orange.. No pardon for you!! You'll need to sit down for a hot minute 😂
But hey, you'll have 70m pen pals (you'll hope) 😂
He doesn't read! Lol
GOOD...!!!
My question is how would he pardon himself or his family or anyone else from a crime he hasn't been found guilty in the court of law yet? Is he saying that he is guilty before he goes to court for what he trying to pardon himself for?
Surely the 'defence of his own cause' would also preclude the preemptive pardons. Pardons should only be a defence of last resort applied after charges have been made and convictions applied. That way confidence can be had that all the evidence for the decision have been forensically investigated and examined. Anything less will always be open to corruption and tools of cover up.
What I have been asking, if a president can't be charged with a crime by state or local prosecutors then after dismissal of charges by the senate then he world be facing no charges now so how can he pardon himself before being indited for a crime and wouldn't he have to say what crimes he is pardoning himself for
If acceptance of a pardon is confirmation of guilt to a felony, can this one term pardoned president run again in a presidential election?
@ James Patts,
And an even more interesting Question, is can a impeached President run again for another 4 years ?
@@Scrollermania1963 I believe so, it’s only the convicted and removed variety that can’t run for public office.
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Thanks James.
This shure has been one weird year...
All well and good. But what if Bonespur goes ahead and scatters pardons like confetti anyway, including one for himself? Does the incoming administration have the right, and, more importantly, the courage, to overturn any pardons which are granted contrary to the limits set out in the Constitution?
Trumpster has been saying "to hell with Justice" for so many years!
Issuing pardons might well backfire. Let’s say person A and Person B work together to commit a crime. Person B is given a pardon and then called to testify in a trial against person A. As he has a pardon he can not decline to answer on the grounds that he would be putting himself in legal jeopardy ( no taking the 5th). Giving pardons to close associates who know your “ secrets” might not be a very smart move.
So Mason basically foresaw the Flynn case...
The idea that a president has absolute power comes not from the US constitution, but from "Die Fuhrerprinzip" or the leadership principle. It meant each leader had absolute authority in his area and was responsible only to his superiors. This was first enunciated by Hermann, Graf von Keyserling, who ran a right-wing "think tank" in Darmstadt, and was taken up enthusiastically by the Nazi party and by the Freikorps, the militias which arose in defeated Germany.
In the USA, the German-American Bund used the Fuhrerprinzip to justify not suing the Bundesfuhrer Fritz Kuhn who had embezzled their funds: but the New York DA thought otherwise and he was imprisoned, lost his citizenship and was eventually deported.
This is the way to explain it to the Supreme Court. What stops a president from arranging for the assination of SC justices he would like to replace?