WLtoys K989 1/28 RWD Drift Update 3 - Improving Caster, Steering, Toe Angle & Ackermann
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- How to add caster and make servo extension to add steering, fix toe out and also fix the Ackermann in the process.
CC subtitles available for English, Thai.
The result is truly stunning. I dare say this is very close to Atomic DRZ.
This project is near completion. One more video should do it.
Links & Stuffs:
Important tutorial of how to disassemble swing shaft: • Disassemble Mini-Z Swi...
Previous update: • WLtoys 1/28 RWD Drift ...
How to make monoshock (original video by Marixor) • Wltoys 1/28 Drift Mono...
Project playlist: • WLtoys K989/K969 RWD D...
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JJRC Q35 Ball Links: goo.gl/XwMEo3
Ball studs and linkages are from this Sinohobby kit: goo.gl/vTjbFh
The car in this video is WLtoys 1/28 chassis.
Touring/Rally Car, K989: bit.ly/2Vr4fWQ
Drift car, K969: bit.ly/2znqnbb
#WLtoys #RWD #Drift
0:00 Introduction
0:17 Atomic DRZ Tyres
3:12 Drill bit: 1mm
3:25 Drill bit: 2mm
4:04 Small Screws
5:54 Kyosho Gear Diff. Grease N30000 - Навчання та стиль
![How to Fix & Install WLtoys 1/28 K989 Aluminium Suspension Upgrade [Banggood 13th Anniversary]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cKw-T2f-Qms/mqdefault.jpg)
Time Stamps
Quick Update: 0:14
Caster mod: 0:24
Cutting Lower Arms: 1:33
Steering Angle & Toe Angle: 2:10
Result: 5:04
DRZ Comparision: 5:11
Test Drive: 6:02
Conclusion: 7:24
Which of the 1/28 chassis do you recommend to modify for RWD? Good and cheap. mini q or another
@@gustavonunes7019 WLtoys, the one in this video. It offers very good base, cheap and easy to chop.
You sir, are the king of 1/28 scale. You're an inspiration to those who want to start with this scale. Bravo! (i jumped into the scale and bought a mini Q after watching your review, superb little thing)
Thank you! Thanks to you 100% decided to buy one of these. Your videos are very well made and have good explanations. Very intuitive your build. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
Your builds are crazy👍
Just got my k989 today I'm waiting on the alloy upgrades for the suspension, I will be watching all the series again , thanks for the great tutorials 👍
Same
This looks really high quality, and super fun to drift!! Liked and subscribed
Great build! Very informative. Thanks for the video!
I just picked up the GPTOYS drift shark, seams to be the same platform ad this. I've been watching your videos on this all morning and think I'm going to upgrade some parts, out of the box, my swing shafts in front (plastic) are broken. I'm waiting on the atomic aluminum ones to come in the mail. And it came with locked diffs already. I think I'm going to tear it down to see what quality they are. These videos are a great help 👍 great work.
Thank you. I believe the Drift Shark is the same platform as JJRC Q35 which is very similar to WLtoys and many parts are compatible.
Love the commentary bro keeps the video alive
I love it rather than the other one. Well done.
gak bisa berkata2 bang,ente juara....ane bli kit fxr gak jadi2 tuh wkwkwk,anenya aja kagak bisa2,tpi ttep puas beli kit dri enten ,teruskan meracuni org2...hahaha
You are a master my friend. Respect👍💪
Awesome project had to subscribe like your channel love the micro rc am looking to get in to the drift hobby was looking at the wltoys k989 as a good base to start like to do something just like that can’t wait for part 4 👍🏽
1/24
rwd drift with cood performans! Whats next? A 1/35 rwd drift?? Thanks for sharing and great build!
In this video i finally see anti ackerman and toe in while steering and nice drifting car. I could not get my hgd1 to drift untill i started to set it up to a bit anti ackerman and parallel toe when straight.
Nice Idea with this monoshock...👍💯
And subbed...😇
car works very well
To be honest it's much better than I expected. I didn't think this super budget scrap build could do full throttle full lock.
Nice man thx your video, your vidio inspired me, passion for making new vidios
Happy to hear that!
nicely done,just play with the throttle a bit more to increase your slide.overall very good job!!
This thing is Crazy man . I am speechless . Looks like a Super awesome project .
You need to buy some U-star Cutting pliers . they are really cheap and Cut plastic really well. you will thank me in the future.
Can I thank you right now? 😊
I'm putting it in my after lockdown tobuy list so I don't forget.
I've been looking for good nippers for a while now. I used to have Tamiya's at home but now I don't have it anymore.
@@BeaversHobby I have 2 u-star green ones and 2 blue ones I use for my Gundam & Aoshima models . DON'T USE then on metal parts . I learnt the hard way and damaged them . But they are perfect for all those plastic bits.
@@killahkay2112 Nice! Thanks for the tips.
I just wanted to ask if you've made or could make a teaching video on how to both setup a drift car and basic lessons on drifting. I've tried looking around but all I can find is just regular drifting video or competition video. I'd love to get some ideas to fine tune my DRZ and also about driving techniques. Keep up the good work up the good videos, I find them really useful and insightful.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Setup can be trial & error. Take note on what you adjust and what difference does it make. I'll be sure to make a RWD setup video too.
As for how to drift...
Honestly after all these years that I drift from racing simulation to RC I still don't know how to teach people to drift. I can do it because it just comes to me, I kid you not. I'm still reading up on how to drift and what to call each technique. Some day when I have more confidence I'll make a video on that. Right now it would just be: can you feel it? Now turn the steering wheel the other way and hit the throttle. So, I'm really sorry about this.
It's fine, drifting is more like an art form compared to racing. I think even a simple video just showing you using the controller in the foreground with the car drifting in the background would be a lot of help just to show how to control the car rather than a long winded verbal explanation on how to do it. Any way, I look forward to your future videos.
That'll be great. I can't tell you. But I can show you.
Wow, that was amazing. Welldone, The drift angle were significant improved. May I ask do you any problem with the slidelogy gryo?
I've got no problem so far.
heh Beaver, love your work. Has anyone got a link for a replacement driveshaft for my k989 please. I've swapped the worn out crown gears but their size has dropped and they're now too small for the original bearings. thanks
The original part number is K989-03.
You'll need to choose it form the list here.
www.aliexpress.com/item/4001221019602.html
It's basically a 2mm diameter rod with flat ends so maybe you can find something near you to salvage and modify.
hey man any idea on where i can get those JJRC ball head screws. sold out everywhere. or maybe an alternative or something. appreciate it man
You can find the parts from Aliexpress, Mini-Q parts also got 3.5mm ball head but some are expensive like this www.aliexpress.com/item/33045636252.html . Another one is Trex250 helicopter.
Whats is the best way to Get a stearing dat angle in the 284131 ?
Replece the front suspention ?
Get a 969 type suspention ?
It's the same car so the method is the same. Convert the shock to monoshock and cut the front gearbox for access (update 2 ua-cam.com/video/QIi_DY06pJY/v-deo.html ). Then extend the servo horn (this video). It'll give you the steering angle you need.
Where did you buy the ball screws to mod monoshock at the front ?
Ball and screws for the front are from Mini-Q kit. I'll look for the link if I find one now since they are mostly out of production. Anyway, you can search for 3.5mm ball heads for that too.
Hi Mr Beaver, I've cooked up a rwd with my k989 but when I steer in full (the wheel goes 180 deg) one of the wheel lifts up, is this common and if it isn't then ur advice on fixing this?
It's not really normal. A bit of a lift can be fixed with a screw in the lower arm so both sides are at the same level. I suggest checking the articulation of the ball heads so that when the servo pulls the rods they won't jam into anything and lift the arm.
I wanna see you try putting a body on that. Good job.
The body is still standard K989 Fiesta which looks a bit out of place when it's RWD.
Beaver's Hobby what if you tried putting a model car body on it. That would be sick
Time to go shopping then. I don't know when can I do it though but I see people putting plastic model on these cars for really long time now.
Beaver's Hobby I hear that the tamiya Toyota Supra model is 102mm in wheel base
@@nameless2346 Thanks for the info. I'll see what can I get in my local shop.
Can you tell me how long the wheel base are? It's still 98mm or 102mm or maybe lower than 98mm?
98mm
Hey can you do a video explaining or driving with the gyrostabilizer and without. I have never drifted these cars but ive allways loved the micro Rc cars because you can drive them inside i am looking into the kyosho mini z or a hpi micro rs4 i didnt know wl toys and jjrc had micros as well. My favorite was the losi micro t 1/36 scale truck and the 1/24th scale micro crawler
Yes, It's gonna take a while until I can make the explaining video so here's a quick answer. Basically gyro is to keep the car pointing forward. In RC drifting if the car is 4WD/AWD you don't really need it. It just make things easier. But for RWD it's essential that you have gyro to help steering the car otherwise you can't keep it from spinning. And it'd better be a decent one too because something like onboard gyro in receiver can't keep up with the small angle changes when the car continuously swing.
Next, both Mini-Z and Micro RS4 are good cars. Micro RS4 is quite big but if you have space it'd be fun to have. It's a shame Losi discontinued Micro-T. Right now there's a clone from JJRC too (JJRC LT832). It's pretty cheap and helps people getting in to micro RC easier. Quality wise, can't beat the original though.
@@BeaversHobby awesome thanks for the reply
@@drewalsup9200 My pleasure.
@@drewalsup9200 Old video I did, all the gyro units work basically the same. The only difference would be the adjustment on the drift box units is made with a small plastic screw driver instead of the transmitter knob ;-) facebook.com/jason.bowman.3150/videos/vb.533050114/10153003096065115/?type=3
Hi sir asking if how did you put mono shock on k989?
Here it is. ua-cam.com/video/QIi_DY06pJY/v-deo.html If it doesn't jump to the time, go to 6:33 .
how do you insert a a large bolt for drill halls and it holds nut it has to be special bolt screwing fit to small size , dont even even now what size is it or how is it even called, didnt eeven see such small bolts for dril screw fix scrwe nut inside but it stays and spins fast beautifull
Most of the bolt I use are M2. To make a hole I use 1.5mm drill bit with M2 tapping head.
What is the distance between the axis of the servo and the line for attaching the rods?
About 2 cm if I remember correctly.
Hello, would you please tell me where can I buy the Wheel Tire as your clip. Thanks
Wheels are from Mini-Z, offset 1.5mm. bit.ly/2WSecRf
Tyres are from Mini-Z as well. bit.ly/2I3a74k
Front curved tyres are from Atomic. But they are not really necessary. You can just use 4 of Mini-Z tyres.www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_74_1165&products_id=14204
@@BeaversHobby Thank you
@@PhuocXeDap My pleasure.
I wonder if we can find a way to get better turning angle in 4wd form... I dont want to convert to rear, but she can't turn well enough for track use at ALL as she is.
The turning is limited by the CVD so you can only go as far as those allow. If you want to maximize AWD setup then you can do the monoshock mod then extend the servo horn so you can steer more and set the EPA for it to turn until the wheels start to shake in full lock, dial it back a bit so it won't break the CVD.
@@BeaversHobby it just wasn't enough for me. I set the angle to the point where its hitting, but I guess true drift machines just need to be 2wd. Shes converted to 2wd now, and in just waiting for some standoffs to finish the steering.
Is the only way to utilize a gyro on this car through a different esc+receiver?
You can use this gyro on any system with 3 pins from servo and the output voltage between 5-6V. So any standard receiver will work. It'll also work with original WLtoys electronics too.
How does one find such shape servo horns as 2:17? What are they called?
It's one of the horns when you buy a servo like AFRC d1802. bit.ly/38sCLr2
Where to find high washers (shim) like you use at 4:46?
Those are spacers for Tamiya Mini 4WD. Apart from your local Tamiya dealer (if it happens to carry Mini 4WD parts) you can find them from 3Racing too with multiple colours. This is the blue ones. www.3racing-parts.com/tamiya-mini-4wd-2mm-spacer-set-light-blue-3racing-m4wd01lb-p-90068167.html
thank you very much for your advice. Like always a great help. Much appreciated.
How much weight did u add at the front
In the final version I use 9g (4.5g x2). You can also use something like coins and experiment with it.
How to fix one shock in front? Don't understand.
It's in my 2nd episode. Go to 6:30 to see the monoshock mod. ua-cam.com/video/QIi_DY06pJY/v-deo.html
Basically you have to drill the top, put some washers on the ball link and screws it in.
Hey Beaver, whats the ballhead sice the original steering arm need?
3.5mm. You can also use linkage from TRex250 helicopter.
@@BeaversHobby thx dude, you are the best
@@mikemojo1467 My pleasure.
Beaver, can you amek a tutorial on how to do that monosuspension?
*make
@@z3k673 I'll try to get some new parts in so I can make a video. In the meantime, here's the original video that I took the idea from. ua-cam.com/video/AkJMC8d1W7Q/v-deo.html
@@BeaversHobby Thank you
What is toe out? Liked the video :)
When the steering is in the centre, toe angle is the angle which the wheels are pointing in relation with the centre line of chassis. To put it simply when the steering is center, if the wheels are pointing outwards, it's toe out. If the wheels are pointing in towards the centre of the car, it's toe in.
@@BeaversHobby Nice. TY. I'm still new with the hobby.
Are you from Finland?😅
Man..ive been trying to get my 989 to 90mm so it fits my initial D body, ive modded it down to 2wd and im at the stage where I'm cutting more and more out to try and reach the smallest wheelbase possible. Lol. It isn't playing nice, thats for sure.
Since you mod it to RWD you can also extend the wheelbase to fit an AE86 1/24 scale model. This car is wide already so it'll fit perfectly with the model because it's too wide for Mini-Z AE86.
What the size of that ball link.. Head diameter.. Thanks in advance..
3.5mm head
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Im getting a 404 on the ball links. I wonder if I could find something like that on amazon
You can use any 3.5mm ball heads and cap. Try and search for Trex 250 parts. The screw size isn't the same but since you'll have to drill new holes anyway it shouldn't matter.
@@BeaversHobby thank you! You're the best!
@@Facewizard13 My pleasure.
Hola como has cambiado la suspensión delantera para que gire más? Video de como se hace. Gracias
It's in my 2nd update here ua-cam.com/video/QIi_DY06pJY/v-deo.html
Look at the monoshock.
@@BeaversHobby gracias por la atención. El inconveniente es que no será awd. Pero excelente video
Moving shock up will work for AWD too but you can't go too far because dog bones limit the steering you can do.
Make a tutorial on how to learn to drift with RWD and AWD RC cars.
What are u setting on the ecu
0 motor timing
no drag brake
lowest neutral range
These are basically 3 things I do for all my cars.
@@BeaversHobby I want to show you my set up I just got the metal suspension brushless
Waiting on gyro need to do a programming for my ecu it was a pain to get it to function right I will follow yours instructions for more angle I’m able to drift but can’t do it like the a pro Hope the gyro help
well this caster mod does pretty do nothing... how much distance are those washers? 1mm would do only 3.6° of caster
0.6mm. This small car doesn't need much to make a difference. At least the tyre contact was better when in full lock.
rear lock diff sir..?
Yes.
How do you make it rwd
Dismantle the CVD and use only the bit that attach the wheel, increase steering angle, install gyro.
The whole series is in this playlist. ua-cam.com/play/PLS79G3YjA2fDY_ESGp0wk6Wom8Zrt0u6E.html
Is it possible to put a Toyota Sprineterbody on it??
Mini-Z body? Not as it is. You'll have to drill new holes to shorten the wheelbase to 90mm. I suggest getting Aoshima 1/24 plastic model and use that as a body instead.
@@BeaversHobby Ok, thanks for the quick Answer, i`ve already ordered a WL Toys 969 Drifter....
I thought that the Wheelbase of this Car is 90mm.....
I´ve should have gotten a Firelap IW05 (rev.3), because it already has the Toyotabody mounted....
@@dibonesi That rev.3 is a disaster. I ran over a tiny bump in my room and the knuckle broke instantly.
Hello is it easier to drift with a steering angle like that compare to the stock steering angle of k969?? I hope you'll answer my question
It's different. This is RWD drift mod so it needs this much steering angle to be able to drift. The stock car is AWD so the angle after you move the servo ball head to top hole is enough (see my K989 stage 1 video for tutorial). RWD is generally harder to drift than AWD but it looks more realistic and more fun.
Is it ok to use gyro on the stack k969?? It's hard for me to longer my powerslide.... :(
@@davedolores1397 Yes, you can. Nowadays there are many better gyros than the one in this video. Check out the AFRC gys-2 V3.
i buy a gyc300 because that is what i can afford for now.... Is that ok?? Maybe i'll buy higher price gyro soon when i improve in drifting
@@davedolores1397 For an AWD car will do just fine. No need to upgrade.
The atomic amz servo horn is too big for a k989 servo isnt it..
Sorry, I don't have AMZ. I only have DRZ and from the looks of it the horn should work with Wltoys too.
what size is the full rod mm
The steering rod? 26.5mm end to end, 21.5mm centre to centre of the ball heads.
However this depends on many things such as the length of your servo horn, distance between ball head on the horn, servo position, knuckle length, etc.
@@BeaversHobby yes steering rod...ok ... for the upper arm does it have to be modified a little longer ... and if it's not modified it isn't perfect??
@@azisalgania1656 For me I still have the same length, actually it's a tad shorter than before too because I have negative camber. And you can see in the video that it's near parallel. But I also move the shock up to get it out of the way and cut the shock pole off lower arms to achieve that.
The steering angle also depends on many more things, mostly how long is your servo horn and did you cut the bulkhead to have more clearance. You can extend the upper & lower arms too so you can extract more angle out of it but you'll have to fashion a new steering system different than mine to utilize it.
You can see my complete setup in ep.4 of this series. I find it near perfect this way. Of course it's not Atomic DRZ or XRX DPA.
Llevo como 3 días intentando conseguir ese ángulo de giro como el que tienes configurado y ni calcando las medidas doy con la clave... No creo que sea capaz de conseguirlo :( todo lo demás perfecto
you sell any of your build drift build? I
No. I only make video telling how to do it. Also postage fee in my country is very expensive.
Isn't the k989 all wheel drive?
Yes, it is. This one is modded to RWD drift.
@@BeaversHobby did you have a video where you missed it to rear wheel drive?
@@goingcrazy00 I have a whole playlist for this. ua-cam.com/play/PLS79G3YjA2fDY_ESGp0wk6Wom8Zrt0u6E.html
@@BeaversHobby you think these will work for the steering mod on this? m.banggood.com/6PCS-OMPHOBBY-M2-RC-Helicopter-Parts-Servo-Connect-Rod-li%3Cx%3Enkage-Set-p-1614765.html?akmClientCountry=America&rmmds=search
@@goingcrazy00 I don't know. How big are this heli's balls? WLtoys' are 3.5mm throughout the car so if you find ball caps and linkages for 3.5mm ball head they will work.
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My wheels keep lifting up
Check servo position, it should be a bit up front so when the steering is in neurtral the arms form an angle towards the front with the knuckles. And when it in full lock the arms will go almost right angle to centre line of the chassis.
Next, put M2 screw in lower arms to adjust the ride height. Push the front down until the wheels touch the ground for the whole steering range.
apa servo yang kamu gunakan?
Gening D561MG but it seems to be out of production now. You can use anything from 9g servo and smaller, preferably 5g.
servo apa yang bagus?
maaf banyak bertanya..karena saya masih newbie
No problem. Take a look at CYS m.banggood.com/CYS-S8221-9g-Digital-Metal-Gear-Servo-for-RC-Models-p-1338527.html
or powerhd m.banggood.com/Power-HD-2215S-Digital-Servo-Metal-Gear-For-ALZRC-450L-470L-GAUI-X3-QFQ3-RC-Helicopter-p-1467170.html
hai beaver..aku sudah mencoba membuat k989 ku menjadi rwd,tapi selalu berputar.aku menggunakan onisiki gyro,servo towerpro mg90s,tapi masih memakai recever dan remote bawaan wltoys.apakah itu penyebabnya?
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Hey man, I want that car
Sorry, I'm not selling it. You're gonna have to follow the videos and build one. 😉
He was perfect for his scale, which body do you intend to use?
@@gustavonunes7019 The electronics are mounted high up so I'll be using the original K989 body for a while until I change the configuration.
What are your social media? For us to talk about this project. I liked very much.
@@gustavonunes7019 I have Facebook facebook.com/beavershobby