Have a ninja 650 2021 I feel like I have most aspects in riding under control. I feel very confident riding, the moment I hit a sharp turn all confidence disappears lol. I know how to turn and lean but not to the extent to ride tight twisties at a fun speed. But hey I’m safe. Anyways all of your lean videos help a lot but in the end it’s all on me to apply so thank you, let me start my lessons for today.
Any suggestions for getting your mojo back after a crash/injuries? Pretty much destroyed my left leg in Oct 2018. It eventually healed up and I've been riding the same roads at similar speeds, but I still can't seem to trust the front like I used to. Could be the change of bike at play too (now on a 1290 Super Duke GT).
Great vid !! I'd like to say that at the age of 60 I feel the fastest way to get confidence fast is track days. One day at the track with good coaches will teach you more than you could imagine. On a Kieth Code track day I had an ex Aussie moto GP rider come up and grab me and say " next session you're going to stay glued to my rear side" I followed him tight for several laps and couldn't believe how fast we were going, he then waved me ahead and followed me the rest of the session. In the pits he gave me my practice pointers...It was the best money I ever spent. I completed two of their superbike schools...again jmho, peace
Agreed. I started riding at 56 so needed to catch-up on practice. Took the CA Superbike class and while I was totally nervous the entire time it got me to push my limits and expand my knowledge and comfort on the bike. It transferred to the street and I feel like I got 2-3 years riding experience in 1 track day.
I come from a cycling background, riding on a 600cc felt very natural to me, to cyclists who have yet to have an engine between their two wheels, do not fret, what you learned on a bicycle will help you a lot on a motorbike, if you think of it... Motorbikes are just heavier, faster, bicycles, the only issue you'll have at the beginning is clutch and throttle control, and handling at slow speeds, but trust me, all that experience on bicycles or mopeds, all counts 👍
@MotoJitsu I just wish to say THANK YOU for all your commitment to the bike community. Your knowledge and experience are key elements in our learning curve as new and intermediate riders.. Keep up the good work! (Sorry for my english writing errors) Big respect from Norway!
I'd a crash last year in a corner at about 50mph when the bike lost traction on a patch of gravel, totally killed my confidence in corners, I've been slowly building it up again using these techniques on the a 45 minute circuit of local roads that have some short and long corners and trusting the bike again. great video
Nice video. This was actually my mentality that helped lean more and more. I'd like to see a video for giving away fear of keeping the gas open mid corner
Never had any fear of leaning I Thank you for this, Studied you're videos long before learning too ride Sure a 125 also helps, seems extremely forgiving, Keep on the brilliant advice 😁
Thank you! This is good to hear from a experienced rider! I am driving for about 5 years but as I became a father one year after beginning, so I can't ride that much anymore. The result is, that I still have "chicken stripes" on my rear wheel due to little and irregular practice. I am confident to ride like I used to but it feels I am not doing any progress anymore even if I know, that there is so much to learn. I am also having a lot of fun but what sucks is, that I still have fear to lean, even if I see it is possible for other riders. I also think, to lean is a sign to have confidence which means that you're able to handle dangerous situations, whenever necessary. To be able to lean proberly can save your ass in some situations. If you can't,.... You have my subscription. Good content, keep going!
If you can corner as quick as the next guy, but you keep your bike more upright (hence the "chicken" strips) guess who's the better rider. Lean = risk. Chicken strips = safety margin strips Not something to get rid of
Great tips in the video, maybe this one is useful for the more rookie riders that experience the same problems. The one tip I remembered from the instruction courses that helped me after a few years of casual riding was to release the handlebar tension/pressure. As soon as I hold my grips fairly loose, all the fear and cramped cornering was gone.
I only consciously used body steering for years until I really understood about countersteering. Leaning was scary for me until I did it and understood that's how the bike always works. Body steering just hides the countersteering you're doing anyway.
67 years old and back on a bike after 30 year gap. Everything has got so much better, brakes, frames, tyres and electronic aids but still find I have expectations of traction ingrained 50 years ago. Maybe you're all correct and a track day called for.
Just got my motorcycle license 2 days ago and so glad I found your channel. My channel is about guns and guy stuff but one day will include motorcycles
I watched your video on trail breaking which I found very interesting and useful. I have just viewed this video and watched the rider in front of you trail breaking exactly as you described, so many thanks for an inadvertent video actually showing how long the breaking can be held. Brilliant. Stay safe, regards
Cool advice. Never push too much but go slowly but surely up and above your comfort zone. Experimenting as you suggest with front and rear brakes is something I haven t tried before. Thank you.
Interesting, I never had a problem with leaning. I think it’s pretty fun really pushing the bike down. But 100% of my riding is on the street. So I try not to lean as much if I don’t have to. I already crashed once running over road debris while leaned over 😅
@@alexxela754 Hell no ! There's a saying that goes "fear will not save you from danger" Measured confidence & skill will save you though. And don't get me started with fear tensing you up, making you EVEN worse.
Definitely needed this vid since I have a track day in two weeks and I haven’t been on the track in two years. Definitely frustrating feeling like I’m having a set back but this vid will definitely help as I practice on my local mountain roads prior to the track day. Thanks for the content 👍
Things that still help my fear of leaning: . adjusting speed well before corner entry and avoid looking down at the front tire, then leaning progressively instead of flicking the bike and letting the bike just maintain speed and maintain even weight between front and rear with throttle control. If i do this, when i realize, i'm getting more and more confortable and in consequence i'm getting faster without thinking about it.
I'm glad you clarified the importance of entry speed in point 3. In point 2 when you talked about focusing on the "mid-corner to exit", I remember entering a turn too fast (point 3), braking too suddenly (point 1), and ending up in a ditch before even getting to mid-corner!
I think it is Greg's military background that allows him to whittle down complicated issues to a series of items that, taken one at a time, lay it all out in sequence. In the UK military it's called "Naming the parts". Disassemble an automatic weapon and reassemble it? Part by part. Do a complicated parade ground drill (gets a unit working TOGETHER)? Step by step. I'm too hot into a curve? Make a first correction, then another then the next after that. If anyone has read the book "The Right Stuff" they will know how military (and non-military) test pilots recount their flying incidents; "First I did this, then I did that, then I did this other thing..." and so on. It's a slightly self-conscious display of coolness under sometimes extreme pressure (you can "auger in" as the saying goes...) but it has a lesson for riders who go out FOR FUN. Have a discipline; from A to E by way of B, C and D.
I used to ride 3 wheels back in the day on the dirt when i was 13 and used to hang off the side of the bike when ripping around corners. now in my 40's I have a little fear of leaning which is strange on the 2 wheel as someone who has been only riding on the street for abut 1 year now. I don't try to be over confident and use caution as I know from my past riding on the dirt when I was young that is when you get in trouble..lots of training and lots of gear and ride your own ride.. 😁
Hey Moto, great video! I live in Chicago and was wondering if you would make a video about pointers for riding in windy conditions. Do you do it? Recommend it? Sorry if you’ve already made a vid addressing this issue already. Thanks in advance brother! Keep up the good educational work, you’re very much appreciated ✌🏿
I found setting the cruise control and not using the brakes in the turn at all helps you learn how much the bike can actually lean. I'm not saying set it ant 70 but starting at 40 or so.
I typically only ride 1-2 times a week (Oregon weather 🤷🏽♀️) but when I go out I leave home when the sun is fully out and go home when it’s cold enough to lose traction. So an entire day if wether allows each time. I’ve hit the coast and back three times in one day so far. I felt myself taking different positioning based on my realizations of the last run through those turns. It’s become my go to road to test practice methods that you bring up m8.
Riding a bike is nothing like operating any other vehicle. In a vehicle with more than two wheels you control it through your steering wheels and pedals, its will do what you tell in to. But with a motorcycle it is more organic. You become part of the machine. Every little movement you do, the different position you take up on the bike, will make it do different things. Even the brakes will react differently on a bike over a car. The motorcycle becomes an extension of you if you put in the hours. You will know when it clicks and every bike is a new experience. You have to get to know your new bike before you can really feel part of it. There is no other feeling like riding a motorcycle, it's an addiction.
Good video! Question, is better to adjust the suspension a bit stiffer for cornering/leaning ? I'm a beginner driver so I need some facts about suspension and how it affects the riding.
Yes. Stiffer suspension adjusted to you weight. Maybe a little softer on a bumpy road or track. I like 30 to 35 mm sag on the front and 30 mm on the rear on street bikes. More if you have long travel suspension, such as an " adventure ' bike. Same with dampening if available.
Find a shop that does suspension tuning. It will make a world of a difference. If you don't have a shop near you than go to Dave Moss site. He does remote tuning.
I'm fixing to get my first bike, and while I'm NOT getting a "Street bike" and instead am getting a Cruiser bike and I have NO interest in leaning to put my knee on the ground but instead just want a bike to "cruise" on and enjoy the outdoors, I STILL am concerned with lean angle. I don't know how far a cruiser bike can lean before losing traction and all that. If anyone can share any tips, info or personal experience on what should be a good lean angle for beginners to just be able to take pretty much any corner without fear of losing traction then please do share.
Some bikes have a lean angle indicator , real time , and saves max angle for the day. Not sure how accurate, but got 52 deg on a BMW F900r and 56 deg on a Kaw ZH2. 1/4 inch gone from the peg feelers on the Kaw. 😈
Believe it out not, I think this is something that parking lot practice can help out with. Just find a large enough parking lot that will allow you to get up some decent speed and practice leaning the bike. It really helps with tire confidence and learning your lean limits. Also you don't have to fear oncoming traffic or running wide off the road 😉
Dear fast Eddie, how do you handle with the condition of the road? I've had my rear wheel go off in a low speed turn, low lean, with steady throttle on my CBR500 and without being able to identify any gravel or tar snakes :|
Hey bud, you said in an earlier video you were gonna be in Colorado soon. What are you doing up this way, any events or anything where we could come meet you? Been a fan of the channel a long time!
Fear is mostly of the unknown. That's the biggest factor in motorcycling because the fear of crashing or even a small is so great. When mountainbiking I fall all the time and dont really care because its considered ok to fall or crash when pushing your limits. But on a motorcycle that isn't so or considered "acceptable" for some reasons (ie costs, severe injury, etc). Honestly people should go to a track to learn to push the limits in a safer environment not even for "racing" purpose but to learn those limits without public distractions. Sort of a stupid analogy but I didn't learn ride a bicycle in rush hour traffic..
that is THE biggest reason for me. MTB feels ok when you loose grip and sort of have to take action to stay upright or fall into the bushes. On my motorcycle no thanks
Great effort on the video, you have my full respect on that. About the content it's really very poor. No mentioning on adjusting the gear to the corner, trajectories, brake balancing, equipped tires, bike type, traction control or not, abs or not, knee positioning, body positioning, looking to where you want to go, reading the road surface on advance, hot tires or not. Ride safe everybody
Good morning Bubba, how's it going. I'd add, besides practice, then practice 10 times more, is to ride dirt bikes. You learn what to do when the tires break loose, it's also much less damaging when you fall over. Ride, ride, ride. Also, ride other bikes. I've read many times how some guys won't ride any bikes without ABS. I think that's a bad way to learn, I think you should learn how to use the brakes without ABS, one poster I read, said whenever they needed to stop fast, they stomped on the rear and grabbed the front as hard as they could and activate the ABS. I don't think that's the point of the ABS, but maybe I'm wrong.
My doctor prescribed me Valium to Help with my leaning anxiety unfortunately it helped a little bit too much and I leaned all the way until I was Dragging helmet
@@Mike-vn3mb people tend to misinterpret what I mean by it 99% of the time. Usually I say it ironically in the way you’re thinking and everyone thinks I’m an idiot trying to brag about what they consider to be impossible. When I use it in the context of actually dragging helmet while continuing to ride the bike properly, well it’s the same, people either misinterpret it or just think it’s impossible lol.
@@Mike-vn3mb here’s actual dragging helmet in the non-lethal context. I had a better video but can’t find it atm ua-cam.com/video/4Ov43cWkYIA/v-deo.html
3 things which are crucial for any driver and which are most important are....1..slow down....2, have enough distance to first object before you 3. check mirrors and left and right every 10 seconds....
Eyes up! I'm no great leaner, but once you have confidence in the bike, and you keep your eyes up and into the curve and on to the next curves, you don't have to think so much about leaning, just counter steering into the curves. If you make the curves - you leaned. When your eyes are up, the sensation of speed lessens-your focus is on flow and you know what's up ahead. Eyes down , watching right in front of you you will lose flow, and the sensation of speed will heighten fears and result in herky jerky riding. Catch myself all the time, espesciall on bumpy roads.
negative camber turns get me all the time. I just seem to freeze up and take the turn wider then I would want to. Feels like you're leaning towards a wall.
Definitely not the way I was taught, prior to taking my advanced rider test over here in the UK . You were positioned incorrectly for maximum view around each corner. Take 0.09 your left knee is over the yellow line. What would you have done if an oncoming car, as so often happens, was running a bit wide. Choice, remove your left leg, or sit the bike up & run off the road to the right. It seems you are taking the racing line in just about every case. Perfect for track riding, but not on the road (street). Advice & video like this could lead to a new rider getting into serious trouble. Fear of lean angle. Make a new video, with you and your friend on a track, that would be much better.
I have always had a fear of leaning, I know this is completely my brain playing tricks on me but it feels like it is physically impossible for me to lean the bike any further even if i wanted to once i hit a certain angle on any given corner. Even when I then get overtaken on the inside and even outside by other riders who are doing just fine and after a few more corners they have disappeared into the distance. Anyone else experience leaning like this?
Yes nearly everyone gets that. Unfortunately the only cure is to gradually push your fear/ limits, ideally in a car park ( parking lot ) or a track, or riding school. Like he says practice practice & more practice. I would add that its easier to learn on small /slow bikes like a ktm 390.
Love that one index finger covering the brake. You never know what's around the next bend. Here in Melbourne Victoria, it'll probably be a huge fooking pot hole.
I had no fear until I pushed it too hard and laid my bagger down and slid it into two different cars. I wasn’t hurt but my confidence in cornering was.
This is definitely something I need to work on more. While hitting max lean angle isn't a top priority on the street, it is a tool in the toolbox and skill that is good to have. Right now I have a certain lean angle that my mind does not like going past. It would be great to chip away at that little by little..
I could use a little more fear while cornering... If i had some more I'd also have a non broken thumb right now And could ride instead of waiting for the stupid thumb to heal
I feel ya on the floor board thing, I've ground about 1/4 inch off the low corner of my 1931 to 1948 Harleys. Knee out and even shifting your weight to the inside helps, a bit.
Yada yada yada! Wear gear, don't cheap out w the tires, and never buy a shinny new bike! Half the battle, a good used bike you won't cry over! Zoom zoom
The rider in front takes some poor lines with regard to obtaining a good view ahead. I guess they're riding from local knowledge. If you don't know the road, it's best not to hit every apex to straighten blind curves. Shave off some pace on entry and stay in/out for the view ahead. This will allow to see further and plan further ahead. Ride safe and enjoy the journey!
I just had an aha moment... - If the turn is tightening up ,bring the bike up & brake, then quickflip the bike again into the corner. The trick is to bring the bike up&brake , not at the extreme outside of the corner, because you will leave the road. Bring it up&brake when you still have 1-2 meters of tarmac towards the outside.
(Not an expert) but radius = speed , so if you trail brake and slow slightly this will tighten your corner, depending on type of corner if you use rear of front brake , I'm only talk small amounts of very smooth braking , have alook at the ChampU online course it's about $50 and well worth it(not there is nothing in it for me) motojitsu has a discount code , it explains everything quite nicely, smooth is the key not flipping , cheers have a great day
@@georgeoddstuff Trailbraking is used at corners that have a long gradual entry + another corner right after it (decreasing radius turns are perfect for trailbraking). The advantage of trailbraking is that you can carry a high speed into the LONG&GRADUAL corner at the entry .... but will have a slow exit speed. -trailbraking: early turn in point -trailbraking: slow steering rate (more time leaned) Quick flip is used in most corners on the road ,that are less than 180 degrees. The advantage of quickflip is that you go slow in, fast out, because imediately after you quickflip the bike, you begin throttle roll on... therefore at the corner exit you will have a high speed. High exit speed is great, especially if a straight section of the road follows. -quickflip: late turn in point -quickflip: quick steering rate (less time leaned) ------------------------------------------------------ Hopefully this makes you understand that you can trailbrake only in some specific types of corners, in most of the corners you dont. You cant. Also ... there is another misconception about trailbraking. Trailbraking should also not be confused with braking at small lean angles. At 10' lean angle you can brake 100% ... just as hard as you are straight up 0' lean angle.
You shouldn't actually be thinking consciously about leaning. Think about turning/countersteering/where you are in the corner. Leaning will take care of itself without you obsessing over it. Think only about making the corner.
I hope this video helps out and while you're in the twisties, stop making this deadly mistake! ua-cam.com/video/aS5uGl2Ec9E/v-deo.html
Have a ninja 650 2021
I feel like I have most aspects in riding under control. I feel very confident riding, the moment I hit a sharp turn all confidence disappears lol. I know how to turn and lean but not to the extent to ride tight twisties at a fun speed. But hey I’m safe. Anyways all of your lean videos help a lot but in the end it’s all on me to apply so thank you, let me start my lessons for today.
@@majorfame3114 Breaking in a Kaw 650 Ninja, chasing Ducatis. ua-cam.com/video/ohqMR0JekLU/v-deo.html
Any suggestions for getting your mojo back after a crash/injuries? Pretty much destroyed my left leg in Oct 2018. It eventually healed up and I've been riding the same roads at similar speeds, but I still can't seem to trust the front like I used to. Could be the change of bike at play too (now on a 1290 Super Duke GT).
Great vid !! I'd like to say that at the age of 60 I feel the fastest way to get confidence fast is track days. One day at the track with good coaches will teach you more than you could imagine. On a Kieth Code track day I had an ex Aussie moto GP rider come up and grab me and say " next session you're going to stay glued to my rear side" I followed him tight for several laps and couldn't believe how fast we were going, he then waved me ahead and followed me the rest of the session. In the pits he gave me my practice pointers...It was the best money I ever spent. I completed two of their superbike schools...again jmho, peace
Agreed. I started riding at 56 so needed to catch-up on practice. Took the CA Superbike class and while I was totally nervous the entire time it got me to push my limits and expand my knowledge and comfort on the bike. It transferred to the street and I feel like I got 2-3 years riding experience in 1 track day.
You just convinced me to do this!
I come from a cycling background, riding on a 600cc felt very natural to me, to cyclists who have yet to have an engine between their two wheels, do not fret, what you learned on a bicycle will help you a lot on a motorbike, if you think of it... Motorbikes are just heavier, faster, bicycles, the only issue you'll have at the beginning is clutch and throttle control, and handling at slow speeds, but trust me, all that experience on bicycles or mopeds, all counts 👍
I've been riding for more that 50 years and I would like to say that this video was one of the best tutorials I have ever watched, Thank you!
@MotoJitsu I just wish to say THANK YOU for all your commitment to the bike community. Your knowledge and experience are key elements in our learning curve as new and intermediate riders.. Keep up the good work!
(Sorry for my english writing errors)
Big respect from Norway!
Coming from a cruiser to a sportbike this week, I needed this today. Thanks!
I'd a crash last year in a corner at about 50mph when the bike lost traction on a patch of gravel, totally killed my confidence in corners, I've been slowly building it up again using these techniques on the a 45 minute circuit of local roads that have some short and long corners and trusting the bike again. great video
I had the exact same experience. Confidence slowly coming back! :)
Gravel and sand is a danger on the road special when cornering it will take away the traction on the tires..ride safe sir.
@@architecture-gawangkalidad4543 and tar snakes..!
I love the quote, “you’re on a two wheeled machine, leaning the bike, getting closer to the ground… For fun.” Makes us all sound a little crazy lol
Most UK backroads are both tight and twisty, add that to the fact of us learning in 125cc bikes, leaning comes really natural
Nice video. This was actually my mentality that helped lean more and more. I'd like to see a video for giving away fear of keeping the gas open mid corner
Never had any fear of leaning
I Thank you for this, Studied you're videos long before learning too ride
Sure a 125 also helps, seems extremely forgiving, Keep on the brilliant advice 😁
Thank you! This is good to hear from a experienced rider! I am driving for about 5 years but as I became a father one year after beginning, so I can't ride that much anymore. The result is, that I still have "chicken stripes" on my rear wheel due to little and irregular practice. I am confident to ride like I used to but it feels I am not doing any progress anymore even if I know, that there is so much to learn. I am also having a lot of fun but what sucks is, that I still have fear to lean, even if I see it is possible for other riders. I also think, to lean is a sign to have confidence which means that you're able to handle dangerous situations, whenever necessary. To be able to lean proberly can save your ass in some situations. If you can't,....
You have my subscription. Good content, keep going!
If you can corner as quick as the next guy, but you keep your bike more upright (hence the "chicken" strips) guess who's the better rider. Lean = risk.
Chicken strips = safety margin strips
Not something to get rid of
@@bhok1971 👌 Thank you for these words! Sounds legit! Stay safe✌️
Great tips in the video, maybe this one is useful for the more rookie riders that experience the same problems.
The one tip I remembered from the instruction courses that helped me after a few years of casual riding was to release the handlebar tension/pressure. As soon as I hold my grips fairly loose, all the fear and cramped cornering was gone.
I only consciously used body steering for years until I really understood about countersteering. Leaning was scary for me until I did it and understood that's how the bike always works. Body steering just hides the countersteering you're doing anyway.
67 years old and back on a bike after 30 year gap. Everything has got so much better, brakes, frames, tyres and electronic aids but still find I have expectations of traction ingrained 50 years ago. Maybe you're all correct and a track day called for.
Just got my motorcycle license 2 days ago and so glad I found your channel. My channel is about guns and guy stuff but one day will include motorcycles
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Well said! Patience and solid confidence really helps. It's the slower techniques practiced better that shines out as smoothness and finesse. 👍🏻
I watched your video on trail breaking which I found very interesting and useful. I have just viewed this video and watched the rider in front of you trail breaking exactly as you described, so many thanks for an inadvertent video actually showing how long the breaking can be held. Brilliant. Stay safe, regards
Cool advice. Never push too much but go slowly but surely up and above your comfort zone. Experimenting as you suggest with front and rear brakes is something I haven t tried before. Thank you.
Interesting, I never had a problem with leaning. I think it’s pretty fun really pushing the bike down. But 100% of my riding is on the street. So I try not to lean as much if I don’t have to. I already crashed once running over road debris while leaned over 😅
Lol. Glad you’re alive😅
Fear is what saves our lives.
@@alexxela754 if that ain’t the truth
@@alexxela754 Hell no ! There's a saying that goes "fear will not save you from danger" Measured confidence & skill will save you though. And don't get me started with fear tensing you up, making you EVEN worse.
@@alexxela754 I would say fear is your enemy when riding a bike. It will make you question yourself at just the wrong time.
Definitely needed this vid since I have a track day in two weeks and I haven’t been on the track in two years. Definitely frustrating feeling like I’m having a set back but this vid will definitely help as I practice on my local mountain roads prior to the track day. Thanks for the content 👍
Things that still help my fear of leaning:
. adjusting speed well before corner entry and avoid looking down at the front tire, then leaning progressively instead of flicking the bike and letting the bike just maintain speed and maintain even weight between front and rear with throttle control. If i do this, when i realize, i'm getting more and more confortable and in consequence i'm getting faster without thinking about it.
You make everything very clear. I will start practice everyday for 10 minutes. Thank you so much.
I'm glad you clarified the importance of entry speed in point 3. In point 2 when you talked about focusing on the "mid-corner to exit", I remember entering a turn too fast (point 3), braking too suddenly (point 1), and ending up in a ditch before even getting to mid-corner!
I think it is Greg's military background that allows him to whittle down complicated issues to a series of items that, taken one at a time, lay it all out in sequence. In the UK military it's called "Naming the parts". Disassemble an automatic weapon and reassemble it? Part by part. Do a complicated parade ground drill (gets a unit working TOGETHER)? Step by step. I'm too hot into a curve? Make a first correction, then another then the next after that.
If anyone has read the book "The Right Stuff" they will know how military (and non-military) test pilots recount their flying incidents; "First I did this, then I did that, then I did this other thing..." and so on. It's a slightly self-conscious display of coolness under sometimes extreme pressure (you can "auger in" as the saying goes...) but it has a lesson for riders who go out FOR FUN.
Have a discipline; from A to E by way of B, C and D.
I used to ride 3 wheels back in the day on the dirt when i was 13 and used to hang off the side of the bike when ripping around corners. now in my 40's I have a little fear of leaning which is strange on the 2 wheel as someone who has been only riding on the street for abut 1 year now. I don't try to be over confident and use caution as I know from my past riding on the dirt when I was young that is when you get in trouble..lots of training and lots of gear and ride your own ride.. 😁
Ugh I wish we had these types of roades as well you really cant find any good roads within a 200 mile radius where I live in Europe
Hey Moto, great video! I live in Chicago and was wondering if you would make a video about pointers for riding in windy conditions. Do you do it? Recommend it? Sorry if you’ve already made a vid addressing this issue already. Thanks in advance brother! Keep up the good educational work, you’re very much appreciated ✌🏿
I found riding my mountainbike and leaning that really helped my motorcycle lean too. Motorcycle feels more planted and grippy.
Great video!😊 I learn a lot from all of your videos😊
I found setting the cruise control and not using the brakes in the turn at all helps you learn how much the bike can actually lean. I'm not saying set it ant 70 but starting at 40 or so.
Great video, great riding. And that road is epic.
Can’t believe nobody else mentions the road :-)
The upper part was just paved last year. The lower half , as seen in an earlier video, is still a bit sketchy.
Saw this as I was changing into my gear it’s propped up on the couch as I slide this suite on. Let’s get at it boys!
I typically only ride 1-2 times a week (Oregon weather 🤷🏽♀️) but when I go out I leave home when the sun is fully out and go home when it’s cold enough to lose traction. So an entire day if wether allows each time. I’ve hit the coast and back three times in one day so far. I felt myself taking different positioning based on my realizations of the last run through those turns. It’s become my go to road to test practice methods that you bring up m8.
@@ereHeuqibmazoM I run a bit less air when cold. Maybe as low as 20 to 25 psi if its in the 30's or 40's .
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Riding a bike is nothing like operating any other vehicle. In a vehicle with more than two wheels you control it through your steering wheels and pedals, its will do what you tell in to. But with a motorcycle it is more organic. You become part of the machine. Every little movement you do, the different position you take up on the bike, will make it do different things. Even the brakes will react differently on a bike over a car.
The motorcycle becomes an extension of you if you put in the hours. You will know when it clicks and every bike is a new experience. You have to get to know your new bike before you can really feel part of it.
There is no other feeling like riding a motorcycle, it's an addiction.
Good video! Question, is better to adjust the suspension a bit stiffer for cornering/leaning ? I'm a beginner driver so I need some facts about suspension and how it affects the riding.
Yes. Stiffer suspension adjusted to you weight. Maybe a little softer on a bumpy road or track. I like 30 to 35 mm sag on the front and 30 mm on the rear on street bikes. More if you have long travel suspension, such as an " adventure ' bike. Same with dampening if available.
Find a shop that does suspension tuning. It will make a world of a difference. If you don't have a shop near you than go to Dave Moss site. He does remote tuning.
Going to do all of this on a track. Thanks!
I'm fixing to get my first bike, and while I'm NOT getting a "Street bike" and instead am getting a Cruiser bike and I have NO interest in leaning to put my knee on the ground but instead just want a bike to "cruise" on and enjoy the outdoors, I STILL am concerned with lean angle. I don't know how far a cruiser bike can lean before losing traction and all that. If anyone can share any tips, info or personal experience on what should be a good lean angle for beginners to just be able to take pretty much any corner without fear of losing traction then please do share.
Hi Eddy can you give advice about how to get confident in driving in the rain. I hate it always scared to slip.
Some bikes have a lean angle indicator , real time , and saves max angle for the day. Not sure how accurate, but got 52 deg on a BMW F900r and 56 deg on a Kaw ZH2. 1/4 inch gone from the peg feelers on the Kaw. 😈
Believe it out not, I think this is something that parking lot practice can help out with. Just find a large enough parking lot that will allow you to get up some decent speed and practice leaning the bike. It really helps with tire confidence and learning your lean limits. Also you don't have to fear oncoming traffic or running wide off the road 😉
once you get comfortable leaning your bike is the best feeling out there!
Dear fast Eddie, how do you handle with the condition of the road? I've had my rear wheel go off in a low speed turn, low lean, with steady throttle on my CBR500 and without being able to identify any gravel or tar snakes :|
Maybe ur tires were cold and u just lost grip i usually try on my cbr300 to lean but once there was debris and saw it too late and fell
Hey bud, you said in an earlier video you were gonna be in Colorado soon. What are you doing up this way, any events or anything where we could come meet you? Been a fan of the channel a long time!
Thank you for sharing your experience with us it helps me understand my ride in my motorcycle I really appreciate
Fear is mostly of the unknown. That's the biggest factor in motorcycling because the fear of crashing or even a small is so great. When mountainbiking I fall all the time and dont really care because its considered ok to fall or crash when pushing your limits. But on a motorcycle that isn't so or considered "acceptable" for some reasons (ie costs, severe injury, etc). Honestly people should go to a track to learn to push the limits in a safer environment not even for "racing" purpose but to learn those limits without public distractions. Sort of a stupid analogy but I didn't learn ride a bicycle in rush hour traffic..
that is THE biggest reason for me. MTB feels ok when you loose grip and sort of have to take action to stay upright or fall into the bushes. On my motorcycle no thanks
Awesome tips thank you so much MotoJitsu Sensei!
How's it going!!?? I am from south cal too, I wonder where are those Twisties at?
Great effort on the video, you have my full respect on that.
About the content it's really very poor.
No mentioning on adjusting the gear to the corner, trajectories, brake balancing, equipped tires, bike type, traction control or not, abs or not, knee positioning, body positioning, looking to where you want to go, reading the road surface on advance, hot tires or not.
Ride safe everybody
Good morning Bubba, how's it going. I'd add, besides practice, then practice 10 times more, is to ride dirt bikes. You learn what to do when the tires break loose, it's also much less damaging when you fall over. Ride, ride, ride.
Also, ride other bikes. I've read many times how some guys won't ride any bikes without ABS. I think that's a bad way to learn, I think you should learn how to use the brakes without ABS, one poster I read, said whenever they needed to stop fast, they stomped on the rear and grabbed the front as hard as they could and activate the ABS. I don't think that's the point of the ABS, but maybe I'm wrong.
My doctor prescribed me Valium to
Help with my leaning anxiety unfortunately it helped a little bit too much and I leaned all the way until I was Dragging helmet
I never heard it put that way. I guess I dragged helmet once. Learned a lot from it. Much better rider because of it.
@@Mike-vn3mb people tend to misinterpret what I mean by it 99% of the time. Usually I say it ironically in the way you’re thinking and everyone thinks I’m an idiot trying to brag about what they consider to be impossible. When I use it in the context of actually dragging helmet while continuing to ride the bike properly, well it’s the same, people either misinterpret it or just think it’s impossible lol.
@@Mike-vn3mb here’s actual dragging helmet in the non-lethal context. I had a better video but can’t find it atm ua-cam.com/video/4Ov43cWkYIA/v-deo.html
Only smart people get sarcasm.
@@Mike-vn3mb found a better video for anyone who stumbles across this thread. ua-cam.com/video/gu5ZNBltcC0/v-deo.html
Is there a risk back wheel will kind of jacknife if u accelerate during slight lean going around turn?
Yeah, if you have a powerful bike and twist the throttle too fast with lean
Great tips. I’m going to try them
To me. Don't rush leaning. It comes naturally the more practise and time you have on your belt
3 things which are crucial for any driver and which are most important are....1..slow down....2, have enough distance to first object before you 3. check mirrors and left and right every 10 seconds....
I ride barefooted and trim my toenails on the corners I lean so hard. 😎
You really sensed the theme I the comment section😂
Thanks for another helpful video
Thank you for all videos that you share with us
man that road looks amazing. Anything close to that where i live in aus is only a few km's long and littered with potholes :(
You really got me at think like a scientist! Soo trueee!
Eyes up! I'm no great leaner, but once you have confidence in the bike, and you keep your eyes up and into the curve and on to the next curves, you don't have to think so much about leaning, just counter steering into the curves. If you make the curves - you leaned. When your eyes are up, the sensation of speed lessens-your focus is on flow and you know what's up ahead. Eyes down , watching right in front of you you will lose flow, and the sensation of speed will heighten fears and result in herky jerky riding. Catch myself all the time, espesciall on bumpy roads.
negative camber turns get me all the time. I just seem to freeze up and take the turn wider then I would want to. Feels like you're leaning towards a wall.
How much of a difference do new tires make?
Definitely not the way I was taught, prior to taking my advanced rider test over here in the UK . You were positioned incorrectly for maximum view around each corner. Take 0.09 your left knee is over the yellow line. What would you have done if an oncoming car, as so often happens, was running a bit wide. Choice, remove your left leg, or sit the bike up & run off the road to the right. It seems you are taking the racing line in just about every case. Perfect for track riding, but not on the road (street). Advice & video like this could lead to a new rider getting into serious trouble.
Fear of lean angle. Make a new video, with you and your friend on a track, that would be much better.
I have always had a fear of leaning, I know this is completely my brain playing tricks on me but it feels like it is physically impossible for me to lean the bike any further even if i wanted to once i hit a certain angle on any given corner. Even when I then get overtaken on the inside and even outside by other riders who are doing just fine and after a few more corners they have disappeared into the distance. Anyone else experience leaning like this?
just relax, drive as you feel comfortable. it's not a race
Yes nearly everyone gets that. Unfortunately the only cure is to gradually push your fear/ limits, ideally in a car park ( parking lot ) or a track, or riding school. Like he says practice practice & more practice. I would add that its easier to learn on small /slow bikes like a ktm 390.
Thanks!
Love that one index finger covering the brake. You never know what's around the next bend. Here in Melbourne Victoria, it'll probably be a huge fooking pot hole.
I had no fear until I pushed it too hard and laid my bagger down and slid it into two different cars. I wasn’t hurt but my confidence in cornering was.
Do u hold steady throttle through corner greg or glide ...or alternate
Your tips always helps a lot
Great video thanks for sharing 🙏
Thank you, always great information 🤙🤙🤙
Loved those mirrors
I ride a GS. Can a GS handle the same road at the speed you are traveling?
Easily
This is definitely something I need to work on more. While hitting max lean angle isn't a top priority on the street, it is a tool in the toolbox and skill that is good to have.
Right now I have a certain lean angle that my mind does not like going past. It would be great to chip away at that little by little..
Leaning far, going fast are not what scares me its the god damn rain
....or snow, ice. 😱
the way I got over it is I keep thinking, "people have leaned farther than this"
I could use a little more fear while cornering... If i had some more I'd also have a non broken thumb right now
And could ride instead of waiting for the stupid thumb to heal
Any tips to increas my fear of leaning? My floorboards are getting thin from grinding so much.
I feel ya on the floor board thing, I've ground about 1/4 inch off the low corner of my 1931 to 1948 Harleys. Knee out and even shifting your weight to the inside helps, a bit.
@@rudedog3529
Cheers for the advice. Ill give it a shot.
my biggest question about leaning is. what to do when your footpad starts hitting te ground?
Body position. Put your body to the inside so your bike can stay upright.
Where are these roads? US??
Awesome as always :)
Damn your lines are smooth!
Confidence in your brakes and tires = no fear of leaning 😁👌
Danke!
Yada yada yada! Wear gear, don't cheap out w the tires, and never buy a shinny new bike!
Half the battle, a good used bike you won't cry over! Zoom zoom
Love this video.
Where is this road you're on?
The rider in front takes some poor lines with regard to obtaining a good view ahead. I guess they're riding from local knowledge. If you don't know the road, it's best not to hit every apex to straighten blind curves. Shave off some pace on entry and stay in/out for the view ahead. This will allow to see further and plan further ahead. Ride safe and enjoy the journey!
I just had an aha moment...
- If the turn is tightening up ,bring the bike up & brake, then quickflip the bike again into the corner. The trick is to bring the bike up&brake , not at the extreme outside of the corner, because you will leave the road. Bring it up&brake when you still have 1-2 meters of tarmac towards the outside.
(Not an expert) but radius = speed , so if you trail brake and slow slightly this will tighten your corner, depending on type of corner if you use rear of front brake , I'm only talk small amounts of very smooth braking , have alook at the ChampU online course it's about $50 and well worth it(not there is nothing in it for me) motojitsu has a discount code , it explains everything quite nicely, smooth is the key not flipping , cheers have a great day
@@georgeoddstuff Trailbraking is used at corners that have a long gradual entry + another corner right after it (decreasing radius turns are perfect for trailbraking).
The advantage of trailbraking is that you can carry a high speed into the LONG&GRADUAL corner at the entry .... but will have a slow exit speed.
-trailbraking: early turn in point
-trailbraking: slow steering rate (more time leaned)
Quick flip is used in most corners on the road ,that are less than 180 degrees. The advantage of quickflip is that you go slow in, fast out, because imediately after you quickflip the bike, you begin throttle roll on... therefore at the corner exit you will have a high speed. High exit speed is great, especially if a straight section of the road follows.
-quickflip: late turn in point
-quickflip: quick steering rate (less time leaned)
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Hopefully this makes you understand that you can trailbrake only in some specific types of corners, in most of the corners you dont. You cant.
Also ... there is another misconception about trailbraking. Trailbraking should also not be confused with braking at small lean angles. At 10' lean angle you can brake 100% ... just as hard as you are straight up 0' lean angle.
@@confusedredditor1660 yes
Wheres the advice to ride in full gear to get more confidence leaning?
im not necessarily scared of the actual leaning, my fear is the eventual low side when I push my unknown limits
i wish i had so good corners here in the city in the netherlands.
1st focus coming out of the turn vrs into the turn. Really?
Is the guy in front of you counter leaning the whole time?
1: the guy in the front IS Motojitsu
2: he's not leaning at all as you can see
You shouldn't actually be thinking consciously about leaning. Think about turning/countersteering/where you are in the corner. Leaning will take care of itself without you obsessing over it. Think only about making the corner.
The first time on a sportbike,, I leaned 40° after 5 minutes 💪
Did you get all the way to 90 shortly after?
@@ButBigger42 I wish, but I only rushed it cause I wanted to get some good scrub-in on my tires before the weather got cold again
Applying these tips in Mizoram, India
#6...... just don't go over the speed limit and you won't fly off the mountain
love Palomar！
That is just 'a road' if you live anywhere where they don't just connect places with straight lines.