Snowden says don't use Wifi, I explain why
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Snowden said this week:
"I wouldn't use WiFi at home, because global maps of every wireless access point's unique ID-including yours-are free and constantly updated. I would use ethernet; yes, ethernet on a phone."
Using ethernet on your phone? I explain why you shouldn't turn your wifi router on, and why you shouldn't turn your phone into a hotspot. It's shocking how unsafe it makes your location.
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Wigle.net provides an amazing resource for WiFi mapping. They also respect the privacy of anyone who requests their information to be removed from the database. To have records of your access point removed from their database send an email to: WiGLE-admin[at]WiGLE.net (please include BSSID (MAC) in removal requests).
Also, append the tag ‘_nomap’ or ‘_optout’ to your SSID to stop other website tracking your location.
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What about your system if it's connected to T Mobile Galaxy wireless internet tower?
“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”
lol, That's a double taker...
So then you won't mind me comming to your house every day to read your personal mail i guess..
Just because you aren't paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't after you
@@VigoTheCarpathian83 way to live up to your name.
@@JoeBlac Well.. this is indeed a reference to Nirvana - Territorial Pissing song. Seems that you are the clueless one xD
"Ethernet is superior because it doesn't have a MAC Address"... LOL. MAC Addresses were invented for Ethernet cards.
Yap that is correct. Every network hardware have a MAC. Low level packets and protocols work based on MAC. Stuff like ARP
@@raresandrei7205 I can concur as a computer engineer who studied computer networks.
You can't get Internet without one.
The cord doesn't tell the router where to connect because it would completely fall apart if you had a switch in-between the router and device. Also, the device MAC is never transmitted outside the LAN. These sites only record MACs of APs. Please add a correction.
@@DavidStringham 100% correct. There is no purpose of having a MAC address outside of the LAN, except maybe seeing what vendor it is in a support situation.
As my Networking 101 instructor said: "There is no privacy on a network."
Among us
@Nicolae Florin Pașca that is security. privacy is about the data and information of users collected and then send to 'big brother'..
All you can do is mitigate it....never private in the truest sense.
Think about the definition of network.
Privacy does not exist. Not joking. Even when you think you are alone, no electronics, no people, you aren't.
I would imagine if you asked Google to not publish your SSID they might remove you from the public facing map ... but they would NEVER remove you from their database. Also, what if you set your WiFi Router to NOT transmit an SSID? I assume they can still pick you up as you are still broadcasting a WiFi signal.
Great point
Your Access Point has to transmit the SSID/BSSID or WiFi stops working. You can stop advertising the SSID, but it remains visible to anyone sniffing the WiFi traffic. Security through obscurity is insecure.
Well yeah how else could they know not to readd you again? /s
ANd yes if you turn off broadcasting the SSID then you still broadcast the WiFi. Anyone sniffing can detect hidden APs like that. It IS more secure but only by such a small margin it often doesn't even bear consideration.
@@SuperWolfkin I would say its often more secure. Why target them when there's 10 more in range that are openly broadcasting
If can get apps like Wifi Analyzer (and similar) for Android devices (last I recall Apple does not allow this) and you'll be able to see any/all broadcasting devices within range of your Android device.
Allow your AP to broadcast, capture the BSSID. Disable your AP. Do an active scan for wireless networks - if you BSSID is not present, that would lean towards zero broadcasting is occurring.
When you perform a check of this nature, be sure to check both 2.4GHz and 5GHz.
I’m not worried about people looking at my location. I’m worried about the Boston Dynamic robots knowing my location
I wasn't worried about that until I watched black mirror.... we're screwed, huh?
how do you think the Boston robot will find you? using this precisely 🧐
Not to use wifi, everyone that visit this page is on wifi.
@@hunterhemingway just go watch Black mirror and you will understand. The comment is dystopian hyperbole stated in euphemistic sarcasm, relax.
@@Bcr3106 didn't realize I was freaking out, lol. I used an emoji with a spectacle. Maybe you should relax. I know all about black mirror friend. Working on tech that people constantly compare to that show. I was simply stating a very obvious situation.
Not everyone needs your "protection" on youtube.
Orwell:
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.”
So why not speak your truth openly instead of trying to hide?
@@spiralviper8158 because treason means death dummy... it means it's a crime, frowned upon, not liked by the government etc.
@@jackthetoiletbowlgamer weigh up the cost yourself i suppose. if you can be coerced by use of the threat of death, then you can be controlled by those doing the coercing. in the bigger picture for the path of societies, such ease of being flattened can drive the establishment of dictatorships, as it did in the 20th century. personally, i'm happy to have nothing to fear from death and take satisfaction in my immunity to any attempts at control by others.
@@spiralviper8158 yea but one voice and death matters not if there is no revolt.. if you sign your death warrant before anything starts they already won.
@@jackthetoiletbowlgamer good point, its good to act relative to what else is happening in the surroundings. I don't know, I'm a nonconformist and wouldn't necessarily join a revolt but refuse to support fascism. I don't mind death but that's me
A purposeful misunderstanding of computer science to fit a scare tactic narrative.
For instance 'A WiFi BSSId, also known as a MAC address..."
In the next breath ...
"A wired connection doesn't need a MAC address".
Priceless...
Plus, if you aren't using a hotspot then they can't identify you through anything. If you are at your bar or work or home and you need internet but don't have wifi for your laptop, THERE WILL BE NO ETHERNET
@MrNicks24 I thought it was google play cards... Even so, you will still have a mac address in the LAN on each port.. i.e. Each nic has a unique mac address which is used to direct packets locally (on the lan)
it is obviously false that wired connections do not use MAC addresses, but I do not understand what that has to do with scare tactics
@Mr Helpful I am the joker
@@userjhansen3197 you can use usb tethering but this video is just stupid in general
Snowden also said remove all the microphones from your phone and use one you have to physically plug in when you want the phone to hear you.
Rename your wifi router to "FBI VAN1"
Or NSA listening post
I started collection SSID's and I have many screen captures, Including the ONE you mentioned. There are many of them everywhere.
@liluglydude I've even seen DOJ, FBI Surveillance Van & some funny one's too. One said "All Cops Are Bastards" about 1 mile from the PD. On the main road. I have a long collection.
What is the name of that van they get running around which sends out a signal and all the calls in the area go through it? Police have them.. Oh I remember.. Stingray.. this is your town police stingray..
liluglydude we named our router FBI Surveillance. 😂
I laughed at your description of having a "clunky" device attached to your phone connected to a long cord. It was just called a phone 20 years ago.
phunny phunny
Landline. Works great.
She is talking about twenty years ago connections ,then wireless arrived we all trilled for using laptops and mobile phones every where with no wire connections, except charging.20 years later admiring and realising .our privacies to go back to old tech again. So sad that all wireless tech exploided
I was just thinking that.
I was like... yeah, it's called a phone.... hell, they used to be stuck to walls too...I guess that was the cordless version, pre-corded, and pre cordless-phone
@Daniel Prohonas HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, yea they were! YOu can stop a burglar with that shit!
That is why MAC address randomization is enabled by default
The Question is not are you paranoid, the Question is are you paranoid enough.
@Bike & Outdoor Germany Did you just quote the movie Strange Days? Nice! I always remember Michael Madsen reciting that line in the movie.
@@gryphon509 ;)
You can be paranoid all you want. If you're online, you're tracked.
Question is are u worthy enough for somebody to track you?
Just so everyone knows the Internet is just one big bugging devise.
Started by NSA/CIA types
100%
In the book 1984 the two-way view screens weren't voluntary. Silly George Orwell, people will pay to have them!
@No No1
According to Edward snowden, if you search something censored and illegal on internet then NSA firewall is triggered and NSA store your query in its database. Because they put backdoor in popular products like (whatsapp, facebook, google, windows) that give them access to our devices. And classify all that our data with their automated AI Classification algorithms. That create profile of a person and then that data is added to their Private internet with multiple connected servers. Where they can get all information (government/Criminal records, personal details, technology usage, his views ) of a person just by typing his name or any similar search. And then create hard backup copy of that data.
Snowdens' job was to bring down the NSA whilst still working for the C I.. A.
This takes stalking to a whole different level
oh absolutely
Yep...land of the free my ass
Yeah no s*** ask all my ex-girlfriends from the past 20 years since AOL broadband came out an I used to use the 2000 hour AOL CDs delivered in the mail every single day...🤜🤛😂😂😂🤘😝
Antonio .Valencia an important tool for all the loser gangstalkers out there
No this stops the stalkers ( government does stalking operations , individuals do not )
Turns out the Amish were way ahead, and they also have self driving technology. Even if they sleep off in their carriage the horse knows the way home and gets them there safely.
People these days may not believe this, but for most of my life, my phone was connected via a cord to the wall.
and yet we can't get back our stolen phones 🤦♂️
well, save the MAC address
Same goes for laptops, even if you have your MAC, or some pinging app on your device. I heard this from several people who had their electronics stolen, police doesn't give a flying f*ck.
lmao 😔
Excellent comment! A-mazing! I live in France and got stolen my phone recently...And been told that they can not localize my phone. Not to mention that the police with all those surveillance cameras on every corner (medieval city) couldn't bother to find it either! Talked to other people ... the same thing. These cameras don't serve a thing.
+Strukle D I've seen french police watch and not intervene while tourists were getting scammed.
In most European cities, police is swamped by crime, so they prioritize, and theft of an old phone is low on the list. Same for the prosecutor's office, so even if the thief was arrested, he'll never appear in court.
I'm in the Netherlands, criminals are openly selling drugs in front of cameras, in front of cops, nobody cares. Police will not show up for shoplifting of items under 15 EU. The percentage of successful prosecution for theft and break-ins is single digits. Half of the rape cases are dropped by the prosecutor. In total, 50,000 cases were dropped in 2017, on a population of 17 million.
A cop recently complained on twitter that some man punched him in the face, he arrested him but saw him walking around a few hours later. My guess is he was undocumented, those are never prosecuted, so, in practice, above the law.
Only when firearms are involved are they successful, 95% of such cases are solved. For everything else they may even refuse to file your complaint, as I've experienced. There was a scandal recently when a report came out, police whistleblowers said their bosses forced them to refuse complaints, mis-file them, to manipulate crime statistics.
Go ahead. Spy on me. See if I care. You're the one who's going to need counseling after seeing my browser history.
That's the spirit.
@@mochipii No, this atitude is exactly the problem. People like him think they are the target, that it is it is all about him, and that is fine if it was true, but in 99.99% of the cases it is not true. Most people are very low on the priority list. They are followers, rather then go in first. They should not care about privacy because of what _they_ are doing, but because others who _are_ doing something that ultimately matters to everyone have enough of a sea of confusion around that the criminals in the top cannot find them.
He should care about his privacy, because it would protect the next Snowden or Julian Assange. There is something nasty and selfish about saying "come spy on me, there is nothing to find here and I don't care," we are not at the point yet where we should say that because we have the enemy down. We don't have the enemy down, the enemy is keeping good people in prison which we may not be able to rescue before they get murdered.
By the way, the real worry is not that anyone can find where you have been, although that certainly is also a worry, but the biggest worry seems to me that the ruling class can start categorizing and analyzing everyone, and eventually when the time is right for them (read; they have created their war and the panic to ratify it), they could start acting upon this mass of data they have. These consequences will likely start ranging from newspapers not supporting honest candidates in politics and always supporting criminals and corruptible people, to refusing people for all kinds of jobs, to harassment and murder. This may seem weird to some people, but it would be very weird if it did not happen sooner or later, because it ends always the same with the Roman Republic and its unstable power centralizing economic system.
Lol
Pornh,*b as always 😂
Shadow Cadet Kami .. hi Kami , do VPN’s protect from viruses or do you still need antivirus
MAC isn't static, easily changeable on basically any router...
yeah but once you do that ISP won't give you a connection untill you report the changed mac address
@@markjohnson1155 That's such a bummer really, if that wasn't the case we could all simply run a script and make these maps pointless.
@@markjohnson1155 Ofc they will, otherwise your new router would never be able to get any signal. I changed my MAC address countless times and always got a new IP and connection
This is one area where Android has a big privacy advantage over iOS - the default hotspot SSID on Android is a very generic "AndroidAP", which at any given moment there a millions of active. Makes it just the bit more difficult to narrow down a specific person's location via hotspot usage (obviously not impossible, but much harder than "NAME's iPhone").
Also, as informative as this video is, it's also a double-edged sword in a sense, since it makes (currently) ~1 million people aware of these ways to track people who *may* not have had any idea it was possible. 🤔
Yet apple has 90% of apple users data.
When she said having a cord in a phone is weird, I felt old...
Wait until she finds out some phones hang on the wall and never move.
Yes. I still own an old dial front phone with cord, but not using it. My parents still use theirs though.
I remember The Phone Company coming to the house and servicing the phone.... replacing the 2lb microphone and earpiece speaker, rewiring a new coiled cord, replacing the dial disk that had the pohone number rubber stamped on it ( they had the changeable stamp on the toolbelt. You need this service annually, because the microphone would get fouled with cigarette smoke buildup. Sound quality on analog was rich, not flat. Cost 50 cents a minute to call across the street, if you lived on the very edge of a particular calling "area". You sent signals to others, so they could call you back, free... half ring, one ring, one and a half rings.... or the Cap'n Crunch Whistle
I remember getting the 30-foot coily cord for our wall phone.... It could reach all the way to the bathroom! My sister used it for "boyfriend" calls! AH! The good old days...
Bro she old as hell lmao
It's almost like the internet was designed to be this way!! haha!
When the Internet "a harddisk" was the size of a refrigirator and very expensive, logging information wasn't really invented yet.
Not to use wifi, everyone that visit this page is on wifi.
As a design principle TCP/IP, the communication standard of the Internet, was primarily an effort to work reliably. No thought was spent on security at the time. The inventors have said if they could do it over again they would have made security a primary effort and reliability a close second.
Yep
It was!
the cost of freedom is always high
"freedom"
Freedom is not free
Your cell phone also will ping off the nearest local tower so even if you dont want to use wifi you're still being tracked. If you really are worried about privacy ditch the electronics to begin with
Yes, let's all live in a cave on an abandoned island.
These days cars are constantly connected to LTE wireless.
If my car is at home, I'm at home. It is effortless for them to track all my away-from-home activities, my whole schedule basically...
And with full self-driving coming soon - they could just drive you into a wall, or over a cliff, if they want.
Let's be very clear: do you have a mobile phone constantly turned on ?
They have a record of where you were for the past 10+ years every 5 minutes.
@@autohmae Nope, I don't own a mobile phone. I'm probably among the last on Earth to not own one. 😁
But I have an LTE-connected EV - probably among the first on Earth. So they have me captured after all... 😱
@@rwess if you are very technical talk from linux.conf.au 2019 about an idea of a FPGA phone. We really need to change the architecture of phones and the network (he's also into mesh networking).
By "they", do you mean our government? You're likelier to be attacked by someone not associated with any agency. If it's a major operation, it will likely be by social engineering. It's the easiest and most favorable way to attack. Convince cops someone is hostile, and they'll shoot. Convince someone that you're an executive, and you can walk in and out with company secrets. Convince someone that they're a mechanic, and they can have exclusive access to your car, and install backdoors to stage a suicide. People want to believe everyone is who they say they are, and what they seem to be. Cybernetic attacks are glamorous, but social engineering attacks are in nearly all cases more practical. The chance of success is much greater, and the risks are few to none.
You might as well give up and just end it foolish thing.
Here's what we do. Swap our routers every month. It could become a festival
Lmfaoo Router Fest 😂
Or randomize your mac ....
Plot twist nsa up their game on cable
I like to pass messages to my neighbors with my wifi router, like, get_off_my_lawn...or impeach_trump. LOL Sorry for that last one. I couldn't help myself!!
@@ricsanders69 Ikr, my routers current name is liberals_are_idiots! 😂😂
Disabled my wifi, ordered my aluminum foil hat and waiting for delivery 👍
"it is a little clunky" - holds up a brick of an iPhone
I’m going back to pigeons and smoke signals. Na telepathy is still good.
Telepathy is the most organic non Gmo natural way.
Telepathy is only secure if you remember to wear your tinfoils hat whenever you aren't intentionally recieving or transmitting. Otherwise, the psychic vampire alien elves can read your mind.
Ravens...
@@johns9478 not mine! I pushed the SAP button! Take that pinko/Bolshevik mind readers!
@@johns9478 "Hello, Mr Anderson."
Doesn't this mean that the main problem is Google et al using phones and other devices as spyware?
Then storing our info in China?
unsettling that this doesn't have more likes....
The fact that they are able to use our devices as spyware means the capability was built in to them in the first place.
yes... that is indeed part of the problem... the other problem being folx allowing it to happen without taking to the streets... and continuing to buy/use these products... and many of us, have known these facts for years. For example look at the many things Aaron Schwartz used to say.
So once you know the problem, the real thing is coming up with solutions... this video offers one good and powerful example of a solution as best practices...
What are some other solutions?
yes , privately owned devices at that.
There are quite a few misconceptions/errors, but I appreciate what you're trying to do here.
_(Btw if you keep charging your phone when it's at 100%, you're killing the battery.)_
I have a phone plugged in a charger for over a year, and it's ok, the system must do trickle charge when battery is full.
Just note that the phone (and the same battery) is 7 year on, with lot of use.
This sounds like an advice from past technologies. Lithium batteries should not suffer from continuous charging, as the device is preventing overcharging and there are no memory effects on the battery.
@@outronomem297
(Sorry for the long comment, but it's not a subject that can be covered with an 1-line answer.)
_"the system must do trickle charge"_
It doesn't, trickle chargers are a big no-no for Li-ions (since they may go boom if they're overcharged).
Instead, they have an integrated BPB (battery protection board) that monitors:
- Overcharging/over-discharging
- Temperature
- Charging polarity, voltage & current
BPB stops the charging once a certain voltage has been reached, or opens a fuse when something is not right.
Now, what I meant was:
- You are relying on this tiny BPB to do its job properly, which may turn your battery into a napalm if it fails.
- You are stressing the battery, which reduces its lifespan.
Manufactures themselves advise not to let it drop below ~20%, or charge it beyond ~85%.
Li-ions reach full saturation at ~85%, anything beyond that stresses them.
The reasons why they don't implement/enforce those % in their chargers, is charger simplicity, & (I assume) marketing (=longer runtime).
As for your battery, well, have you tried unplugging the charger?
Does it hold a charge for more than an hour? 😛
If it does, you may want to sell it to some Battery Research Institute for big €€€, because it truly is a technological wonder!
Not just because you have charge-stressed the crap out of it, but also because even under normal operation, Li-ion lifespan is about ~3 years.
@@doxanthropos
_"This sounds like an advice from past technologies."_
On the contrary, what I said applies to Lithium batteries, while it does *not* apply to older batteries (like NiMH).
_"the device is preventing overcharging"_
I'm not talking about overcharging, I'm talking about high-voltage stress (they reach full saturation at ~85%).
_"there are no memory effects"_
True.
It's because of those 2 reasons manufacturers suggest many charging cycles between ~20%/~85%, instead of one full cycle 1%/100%.
There's also another major Lithium killer: *heat!*
Those Ethernet thingies in the video for example, charge the device while it's being used extensively.
There are important issues with this (hence my original comment):
- Charging the battery while it's hot
- The battery get's even hotter from heat generated from it's own internal resistance & protection circuitry
- Prolonged high-voltage stress from keeping the battery at 100%
I get it, I'm a mobile user since the '90s, seeing the battery below 100% triggers my OCD too.
But if you want your Li-ions to live longer (& safer), you should respect the 20%/85% as best as you can.
Of course you gonna charge it up to 100% some times, or let it drop very low.
But keep charging it for *hours* after it has reached 100%, *every single day,* is a bad idea.
But... to each their own I guess. 🤷🏻♀️
someone needs to read up on MAC addresses
Her description was nearly completely correct, and did not contain any serious security-impacting mistakes. I would say that's a win in terms of UA-cam content.
The Government and Google knows I've been looking at porn for a long time
YES!!! I'm sure they found out by now... ALL men do, if they say they don't they're a damn lie
Me too
That's actually funny!!
Wtf
Yup all people who have nothing better to do watch poem. Losers.
Wait what? MAC addresses are used in all network connections, no matter which physical medium is used. They are part of Layer 2 of the OSI model. WiFi/Ethernet are part of Level 1.
Right, but the wired MACs are not broadcast for everyone, and are not otherwise visible through a layer-3 router.
You can imagine people in a crowd wanting to talk to one another.
The movement of air (speech) would be the physical layer (layer 1) and addressing would be done over a data-link (layer 2) by using someones name (eg. a MAC).
Someone yell's out the person's name (and everyone hears it being "broadcasted") -- now everyone knows there's someone in the crowd named "steve".
Thank you for referring to the OSI
Plus, if you aren't using a hotspot then they can't identify you through anything. If you are at your bar or work or home and you need internet but don't have wifi for your laptop, THERE WILL BE NO ETHERNET
@@userjhansen3197 "if you aren't using a hotspot then they can't identify you through anything" thats not true at all if you take a look at wifi discover etc.
A phone, that is wired in to a wall and has to sit in one place in your home or office ?
Naaaaa, It'll never catch on.
I remember the good old days when we could only wander as far as our 15 foot cord could stretch!
In reality hardly anyone moves around with their "hotspot" turned on which is not the same as using WiFi.
@g h When you turn on your hotspot you' are the one providing WiFi to another device by letting it use your own network connection.
Another thing is to turn on your device's wifi to connect said device to the Internet via wireless connection from the signal which is being broadcast by wireless router or hotspot.
"A phone with a big cord attached to the wall" How retro!
A cordless phone with a cord
This could be used to someone’s advantage. Leave your devices behind while committing crimes
You don't have to proof innocence. Your device being somewhere is not enough to proof your alibi.
The only effect is the prosecutor has to use some other way to proof your guilt, not based on your device. You know, like they did 20yrs ago...
*CIA, FBI, NSA......
Tungst the way things are today your pretty much guilty until you can prove your innocence. The phone will show them you we’re at the scene of the crime and the time and if you made contact with someone. If someone was going to do something I agree it would be wise to leave it behind.
True that,unless your a member off the demacraps..or i should say a member of the demacraps
@@whatfreedom7 I didn't state it wouldn't incriminate you when you actually do something illegal like your example.
If you are guilty until proven otherwise you should reconsider the country you live in.
There's so much misinformation here, it's making my head hurt.
I was saying the same thing while watching this.
fearmonger idiot is what she is, so much misinformation. She have no idea what she is talking about in most part.
So lads, this has me a fair bit out of my depth.
Tell me why it's misinformation and what's a reasonable starting point to learn more
The other big thing is that wi-fi can figure out, using connected devices and the sensors onboard your phone, the layout of your house and what rooms you use most often and at what times.
Though every internet capable device has a MAC address.
I need to stress this real quick as someone who's getting their associates in computer science: it is 100% impossible to fully protect yourself online. :/
4nt IK if you wanna be safe from the government you have to get off the grid
4nt At least that's what you're supposed to think.
Smitty well than its not a usable laptop now is it
EREX98 IG you got rid of all WiFi etc would the wireless electricity meter do any spying? We also have a WiFi one on our water meter which is in our basement
every little step that makes spying on me harder is something I want to do. I can be robbed, but I make it as hard as possible for people to do so
As a real expert with 35 years of experience, I can honestly say that Snowden isn’t wrong. However, your analysis and breakdown is horribly flawed. I’d start with researching MAC addresses and see where that leads.
Yes thank you, also this video seems to ignore that from just your IP adres online services can make a very good estimate whee you are located. Maybe not as precise as GPS, but still close enough.
Even if your phone or computer is connected by cable, if a malicious app starts to sniff network traffic, etc. Even with a cable you are at risk.
There is a problem that basically any app can get your ssid and read wifi networks close by (not sure if network scanning is a permission you have to enable manually).
But let's not pretend just using a cable is automatically safe.
At least we have a sane induvidual in this comment section hehe!
lol who walks around with there phone perma tethering and wan ip already has close to precise location, more wifi is as safe as your router there is no diff between the wifi and lan port connection thru the router and did i hear correctly about the mac address? i have seen duplicate mac addresses in my time as a network admin so it's not completely unique lol
If someone already knows your eSSID, you're already pwned completely. They can be assumed to have full access to your system, able to just pop open a browser and find a stored address (i.e. pop open Google Maps). Ethernet doesn't make anything better, in fact, it would be worse since there's no standardized data link encryption.
What was even the point of this video? People have been blasting microwaves as loud as obnoxious bassheads with their car stereos at night. This is nothing new, and such a defense is easy to defeat. Just find the one tin-foil hat guy who actually plugs their phone into a Cat6 cable with a dongle and correlate it to the house without Wi-Fi.
@@DerekSmit Unlikely with a VPN.
Lay your "phone" by a TV that is on for a while and see what ads are suggested.
I'm going to test this! Though my phone is usually forgotten in my car most days....I'm addicted to my iPad not my phone, same should work for tracking though. 👍🏻
Thank you for taking the time to research and share this!
Nowadays these privacy concepts should be in the primary school curriculum as soon as kids gain access to the Internet...
However, there are a few technical mistakes in the way you explained these concepts... i.e. even if you gain access to my WiFi network, you still have to break into my PC security later ("smart" home and tablet/mobile phones are a lot easier apparently)
Pro-Tip: Use a VPN located in the Netherlands, they have laws against record keeping and spying on users.
Lol. I don't think a spy agency follows laws...
@@christophergood2314 Yes obviously spy agencies break "laws" perhaps you misunderstood the point. Whereas US companies are mandated to KEEP logs vis-vis the PATRIOT ACT, companies in the Netherlands are not bound by the PATRIOT Act nor any national law mandating they keep records and thus opt to NOT keep logs as a matter of business choice.
@@LibertyTalkFM I see your point. Thanks good to know.
Cleared up an issue that had crossed my mind.
Thanks, both of you!
If you connect to the VPN wirelessly, your location is known regardless of VPN.
Only thing the VPN does for you, is encrypt your data.
“Don’t use WiFi” ya good luck with that.
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo not practical? You need to seriously reassess your perspectives if you feel sacrificing first world conveniences, and indulgent user comforts is too impractical for you, over invaluable privacy and anonymity then your in trouble
JoshPhoenix11 Using the internet outside of the home is more than a luxury; it's necessary for some people. I don't know how many places with Wi-Fi are going to let you plug your ethernet cable in.
JoshPhoenix11 So why have you not moved in with the Amish.
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo Exactly besides most people aren’t doing things to catch the governments eye.
If you're a serious gamer, you already have your PC connected via wired connection. So you just need to do the same for other devices.
Your MAC address is still present over Ethernet. It has to be present to be a part of the network.
yeah in your private network until you enter the internet. then it's your routers mac and nobody can create a map of your smartphones positions by your router information...
OMG.... I am all for security, but this is ridiculous.
After spending 3 weeks soldering ethernet jacks on all of my lightbulbs and other smart devices I realized that you can track almost all of the same information using my public IP address from anywhere in the world, not just down the street.
Now I have resorted to buying a new burner phone every week and re-creating my online presentence with each new phone.
I heard somewhere that the post office knows exactly where you live🤭
On a side note I ordered an Ethernet cable from Amazon and it should arrive soon. 🤗
🤣 100% true.
I am not a Postman btw 🤣
ROFL 🤣
Sounds dangerous. Don't use your home address for mail but get a Post Office box instead. Less convenient having to go to the box to get your mail, but much more secure! ;-)
@@macsnafu Sadly not all mail can be sent to a post box including using a redirect service. Some items have a do not redirect on them, they are usually government IDs, credit cards and such, most of which at least where I live no longer support boxes outside of extreme cases. Besides since the post office is government ran and since the government knows where you live anyways what's the point in hiding from them?
@@egg-roll8968 It was a joke--not a serious suggestion.
Can we go back to when we didn't have celluar devices......meaning if i'm not at home.....leave a damm message !!!
Ravioli 23 .......No. 🚬😎
Yea like if I ain't By the fukn land line I'm uncontactable and untraceable
Ravioli 23 that’s completely up to you!
Why do you want everyone else disconnected tho??
@@missdirection4616 - Celluar devices are taking away from families QT time, people stealing info, little kids getting fooled & sexually attack by predators, just so much krazy stuff on our little hand held compact computer / telephone !!!
Ravioli 23 so you don’t think this place is a sorting process and the internet is helping categorize individuals??
fun fact. the technology is available for one to use the RF from the wifi routers as a type of "radar" that can be used to physically map where people are in a room. the more APs the better.
But your wrong, BSSID can always be changed, and quite often the default configuration tools allows for it to be randomized. So its not a problem.
Mac addresses can be changed/masked/cloned so, i wouldn't say they "never" change, they are.. not supposed to change. but they change.
back a few years that may be true. but now even that can be backtracked
My NICs on my desktops has a section for me to change the MAC to whatever I want. I'm not sure if that's a one time use or what though.
Why is this only wifi? The way I think it should work and the way it actually works isn't the same :/ I send out a request for google.com. My service provider gave me a DHCP address with my particular cable modem. Why are my internal MAC addresses sent out? How come it doesn't create a random internal ID and keep that only internally and map it separately from the DHCP address from the service provider. I don't like the idea of a big map with history available on it for anyone to look at.
Aleph Gates oh my god, my head hurts trying to understand what you’re saying.
DHCP assigns a logical/“virtual” IP address to a physical MAC address on an internal local network (think home). This is your “internal ID”. When you make a request to Google, your computer tries to connect to Google’s IP. As your network doesn’t have that IP, the request is sent to your router and up to your service provider from your external IP. The request receiver (Google) only sees your external IP, not your internal one.
WiFi works differently and lives entirely on your local network. The reason the MAC address of the WiFi access point can be detected is because the MAC address is used to establish communication between the computer and the WiFi access point. That means people need to be physically near to be able to detect your Access Point’s MAC and SSID.
Aleph Gates In essence, what I’m trying to say is: how you think it works IS actually how it works. Your knowledge is just patchy and you’re not seeing the whole picture.
If you use WiFi, enable mac address filtering. You specify which devices can access the router, and it blocks all others.
Unfortunately spoofing a MAC address is trivial, so this isn't really a strong security measure.
To bad it doesn't work anymore on modern smartphones, those have randomized MAC-addresses, for privacy.
Best bet is to not use wifi, then use a firewall and then a VPN
autohmae No, phones don't do that. The only one I've seen was on my Xiaomi with a custom rom that had a bug, so it randomized the MAC at every reboot. Normally the MAC is always the same (unless you spoof it). The only time they randomize MAC is while searching for available APs
@@lubomirbrousek194 I don't know much about it, but that sounds about right. In the router interface, you can usually set mac filters.
If you're really paranoid - and there's good reason to be - then pick your spots to "go dark." Eliminating Wi-Fi may draw more attention than less.
One solution is stop broadcasting your SSID. All routers support this, and only enable it to attach another device. Should work fine when it's not advertising your SSID.
5 downvotes from the NSA. Great advice, thanks :)
lolol 👀
Keanu Chun NSA could give a shit about your WiFi...if it’s in America or used by citizens.
Just a quick note for iPhone and iPad users. Apple doesn't allow apps to scan for wifi networks around you (they can still get your networks name) and since iOS and iPadOS 14 your mac address gets randomized on every network that you connect to. This means that you are a little safer but if you can you should still use an ethernet port.
Great video btw
I am off to throw my phone in the toilet. Wait a minute….its water resistant and will be broadcasting from the bogs.
June 1st 2021 and I was recommended this video, pretty sure that there are toilet-paper holders yelling over the 2.4ghz band right now.
A periscope broke the surface of my toilet water and looked around.
My preferred set-up and the one I've been using at home for years now is to build my own router (a dedicated PC with server/workstation parts and multiple NIC's and dedicated network switches as needed). I like to use bridge mode on my ISP provided modem/router which I then feed directly into my home router/firewall running OpenBSD. I separate the network into different subnets which are firewalled off from each other. It's been especially useful this past year since working from home so there's no chance my works computer can see my own computers and my home network remains secure. It's really stable and runs really nicely, and is not too hard or expensive to set up.
While that is a great setup and it sounds interesting. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with WiFi or the inherent vulnerability therein.
@@SuperWolfkin There are some things that cannot be overcome, at least not easily, but that doesn't mean we give up and stop trying. We can implement whatever measures we can where we can. Security must be multilayered if it's to be effective. One layer may prove to be ineffective, or at least less effective but we should still study and dowhatvwe can in the understanding the other layers should help.
may i ask whered u learn that from? lots of tech savy ppl here that id like to learn from
As an IT engineer I'll say this - The average person shares too much via Facebook, so implementing this doesn't help them much. They're better off with a solid endpoint antivirus, firewall like Untangle & firmware updates for all networking devices.
Thanks for this. I’m curious about fire stick linked to Amazon can I do something to protect me from whatever may happen Amazon owns everything
@@hvdb4492 no. About all you can do via fire stick is install a VPN. But that doesn't protect you from Amazon. It only hides what you view on your fire stick from your ISP.
can I challange zuckerberg to an athletic event?
What most people don't realize is that Facebook is the Public Version of a US Military DARPA Project called LifeLog which had the objective of collecting a persons entire life into a Database...
If everybody calls their wifi 'Jane Smith Home WiFi' that would work right?
The tethering being logged on to a public database is very disturbing!!!
As for cell phone WiFi or being connected directly via Ethernet cable - why wouldn't you put the MAC address of the phone into the router's white list of allowable devices for access to the WiFi router to prevent unauthorized access? Or is the concern that someone gains access via the cell phone's WiFi? What are the vulnerabilities there?
....And once you go out on public and your phone starts connecting to cell towers, you become trackable once again. Congratulations.
Use airplane mode.
@@annieesther8405 Then I won't need a phone service either. Oh, the money I will save. No pesky calls or texts to deal with either. Bonus!
So who here watching this video using Wi-Fi / tethering?
Errrr everyone?
Yes! My neighbor's Wi-Fi.
Password is 88888888.
Doh!
that must be laggy
not me
99% of the people here are completely missing the point.
Snowden was talking about the fact that YOUR ACCESS POINT, gives out its MAC address, and since it physically doesnt move, when a google car passes by and maps its location to your Access Point, you can now know the location of someone IF an app on your phone is able to read the nearby access points and send that information to someone who wants to track you.
If you setup your mobile phone as a Hotspot, what are the chances that the google car passses by and maps your location at that exact time?? LOW !, your phone's mobile hotspot is not on 24/7
You should turn OFF your WiFi, because other devices can hear the beacons your phone sends out attempting to find your home Access Point, thats how they know were you are, not the Hotspot mode.
Knowing an SSID tells you nothing about the network besides the name that the user (or factory) assigned to the router/modem. That's all it is. A BSSID is not a MAC address, if the two were the same thing then they wouldn't need to have different protocols and names! A MAC address is just carried by default via the BSSID. Don't confuse the two.
We can all move back to the woods and become hunter-gatherers.
You are possibly new to this planet. There was a long period of time in between humanities transition from hunter-gathers to the invention of wi-fi
@@davidlean8674 You did not understand my comment.
Nah I can't live without my fast food sorry
@@veryconfused9768 Ever tried catching a chicken? Now that is really fast food.
@@registerme2 I am vegetarian brother I don't eat chicken(ー_ー゛)
Vegetarian food is also in fast food,you know that super oily but still can't get enough food.
I named my wifi Crooked Hillary. My condo association hates it.
@@questionmore2823 hahah thanks, just gave me a jolly good old laugh
Gonna name mine. Hillary Killary or The Oral Office😂
Should of named it grabbitbydapuspus
Theres a difference of men talking about what they would do to a woman and actually doing it. Clinton was a regular at Epstein Virgin Island.
Name it "Clinton e-mail Server".
This is very misleading. It conflates Wifi - by which most of us understand as being the local router device in our home which connects to the ISP's cable and connects wirelessly to our laptops - with mobile devices such as mobile phones which provide mobile broadband. Both methods attempt to gather location data and use very different methods to do so; the former usually via websites which ask you which you can easily reject and the latter by automatic methods such as mobile mast triangulation. Add to this people who voluntarily sniff and report SSIDs that are openly broadcasting. In reality, most people can, and do, turn off the public broadcast of their SSID, most people do not voluntarily offer their location data to unscrupulous websites, and most locations are not sniffed by nerds going down streets collecting data and then reporting it. I've checked my area and it is completely blank despite there being hundreds of wifi spots within reach of my laptop and my own MAC numbers are nowhere to be seen.
Don't use wifi, don't use your credit card, don't use gps, don't go on the internet, don't drive, don't walk on the streets, don't use alexa, don't text, don't make phone calls...I don't care. Who am I for someone to be interested in what I do?
"It's clunky to use a phone with a wire connected to it...."
You effing millennials....
15 yrs ago my daughter was about 13 and we saw an old rotary pay phone that was still in use in a local court house. She picked up the handle and proceeded to push her fingers into the holes then told me the phone was broken. I couldn’t help but laugh hard at that one.
You do realize that millennials remember the 90s before cell phones right (and that's assuming not from a 3rd world county)?!
@@TENNSUMITSUMA it's called a "joke" chief....
hang. up. the. phone.
Michael Siino
This is the most unnecessary insult I’ve seen in a while.
...tiger.
Does anybody else remember the time when all our phones were connected to the wall and we actually had to go outside and talk you know she just described that right
Payphones still exist, I use them! Find an intercity bus or train station, or go to the airport!
yes. as a boy on the farm, we had one of those. ''a Landline '' nowadays, it is known as. Back then (60's) if a family member picked off the phone, from the wall, and heard 2 people chatting, it was called a ' party line '''.........which, today is known as WI-FI..........and, as Telly Savalas used to say in his movies..''' you've come a long way, baby...."" good day to all....WORK safe.
Yeah pretty boring time. And im 2000 born and dont bother to try to conviece me.
@@deleted9821 what?
nope. never heard of it. call BS on that!
This seems like an extreme solution. In a weird way, the fact that everyone's wifi is public, kinda makes you invisible because there are so many. Unless you have some who is specifically looking for you, and also know your MAC address, I don't see how this would that big of a problem. And if there is something that is that dedicated to finding you, I'm sure they'll find a better way. As long we are connected, I think the risk will always exist. At this point, I have just come to accept it.
Thanks for sharing! I think those are very useful tips for anyone living in this era! While no precautions I know of will "completely" hide you from say, the police, certain measures will indeed keep you safer from hackers and nosy civilians - or at least give those people a much harder time. Given how easy it is for anyone who's curious to track you these days, online privacy is definitely an issue. Nice job!
they used to have phone books and nobody freaked out...……………..
moondoc smith the thing is this allows people to basically track when you arrive/leave your house, family members names, where you work potentially
phone books don't broadcast your location in realtime
You could opt out of the phone book.
My parents took their number out of the UK phone book in the 1980s because they started getting sales calls.
But a phone book is very limited in comparison
@@tehKap0w If my WiFi says I'm at home when I'm not, that's security.
I've been trying to tell people for years to use ethernet instead of wifi, they thought I was crazy until now
The Art Of Tech Support oh no! We're still pretty sure you're bat shit kookoo for Koko puffs. Just thought you should know
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo oh, I was just messing with you. You're absolutely right. I've read about how the Rockefellers got their hands in medicine just do they could sell us snake oil, made from oil, while at the same time, kicking home remedies that worked, out the door
Who knew I’m smart to ya no
skindian6669 u2 Yep, reading about that right now in a book called The Truth About Cancer.
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo 18 !! That's minimal I think. TY for the article. Will look it up.
If you have regular wifi issues, you either have a physical issue (wifi device / Lan cable), too many neighbouring WiFi points or you need QoS setup.
Well, I do wardriving sometimes and depending on where you live, data is not 'constantly' updated. Means, if there is no one wardriving in your area, your wifi won't be added to the wigle database. Of course, no one needs to use wigle, but can instead use his own database, which is maybe not public, so you just do not know wether your wifi is in any database or not. However, wigle is surely the most used public database for wardriving, but again, as long there is not someone wardriving everyday in your area, the database is not 'constantly' updated with your wifi access point data (GPS, SSID, MAC etc). You may have a look in wigle database: if you only display the wifi access points which are updated for example this year (or month), the number of access points is dramatically reduced. So, even if there are hackers around, do not become paranoid unless you have a reason for it. ;)
How to protect? Well, you can reduce wifi transmitting power on your router, for example. Then, the chance for a wardriver to catch your signal is reduced, too. Give your wifi a common name, never use your name. Did you know that smartphones broadcast the wifi access points to which they have been connected in the past? And so on. I now will have a glass of good wine. Cheers!
it's like having an electric car, with an extension cord, lol
Thanks for the heads up, Naomi !
I'm easy to find - DE:AD:BE:EF:CA:FE
Your phone comes in a small cardboard box. Simply use the box and not the phone. It is almost as usful as a phone with all the wireless connections switched off
I have to add to the beginning of the video that routers do technically have a firewall, but only a simple one and by definition, at least in Germany, they are not sufficient for this purpose, especially for companies, because you need to have full control over what you can block and I learned that some routers don't offer this possibility, they always have standard ports like 80 and 443 open, so normal users don't run into problems if they block them by mistake.
Your Ethernet port has a MAC address too, and the router keeps track of it. Also, you can "spoof" MAC addresses =]
Wow how comforting that someone is looking after me. I thought I was all alone.
Haha brilliant.
But you are.
Rename wifi : Hillary's Backline
I just use an anonymous prepaid sim with unlimited data. I put it in a generic hotspot device (not at all tied to my identity) and connect to it through a VPN.
I’m impressed by how well she explains this even though she has learned about this so recently
she doesnt, it just seems that way because you dont know that much about it.
some of the things she says just arent true. some much so that I get the idea she's making a buck of the adapter she's promoting.
have a look at wigle.net install the app. see what it does with your own eyes.
it does what your phone is doing right now
Exactly the same, only difference is it takes notes. it registers what it has seen.
you will need another app to see some things, like network strength, but your phone DOES have the capability to see that. It just doesnt show you
also have a look at the wifi pineapple its a hacking device. it does some of the things she claims wigle does
I have Wigle, had it since 2017. it DOESNT show who is connected to a network. My pineapple nano does though
That's why I don't use Wi-Fi on the toilet. I don't want them to open my camera and see my tiny hotdog. 🤣
Your wife my be happy.
F
Don't eat in the restroom
😂
@@brianvanrenen2310 glad to make you laugh. That was my purpose of posting that, just to make people laugh. Have a great weekend and don't get nuked by propaganda news. Stay stress free and live life, see nature, and go from there?
That’s why Apple always turns my Wi-Fi on without my permission and told him to quit doing it’s not your phone it’s my phone quit messing with my phone!
So I checked that site and my network actually DOESN'T show up. So that's comforting
Same here. What a delight to live in a place so utterly uninteresting :D
"Holding a phone, and trying to use a phone that has a big cord coming out of it attached to the wall..."
I'm middle aged, so I've been doing that all my life! LMAO!!!
try one with a spiral, springy cord that keeps wanting to pull the phone back towards the wall like on a rubber band...do we miss the 70s and 80s? no
Dejavu all over again...
@@genkiferal7178 and a rotary dial.
One important thing to note is that you can disable the SSID from being transmitted on many WiFi devices. Doesn’t hide your BSSID, but it is a little bit more secure.
Also, I advise everyone who is concerned enough about their security to get a real firewall appliance, like “Untangle NG Firewall”, installed at home. Well worth the minimal investment and can provide security like no other router can. Been running my Untangle NG Firewall on a mini-pc off Amazon and it does the job fantastic with zero issues.
If you use any kind of surveillance cameras (eg. Blink, Ring, Reolink, etc...), a firewall appliance is highly recommended due to well known security issues with network connected surveillance cameras.
Anybody remember wardriving? Good times.
With a pringles tube? Finding people with default passwords and locking them out of their own WiFi?
I never did that.
All this stuff has always been common knowledge. Its not like it was secret knowledge from Snowden. Honestly I'm not doing anything to care if I'm getting looked at
such a pathetic, lazy, self-centered mentality.
@@cyberneo10 self centered and lazy, whatever you say
@@cyberneo10 what is it that you need to hide so badly?
@@zozokaa I know that caring about the principle of a matter is a strange concept for people who have no principles, so let me say this plainly:
It's no one else's business what you and I do or where we go. Doesn't matter if there's nothing to hide, the point is that it's no one's business.
@@cyberneo10 maybe don't use services you don't own? Then you get to complain about the rules okay? Simple...
Her bangs alone could block wifi signals. Got to get me one of those.
someone is going to hack into my devices and see I'm a bum, who is constantly surfing fast food apps and texting my mommy,
Omg me too. They'll laugh at my boring ass. No game and no horniness. Just ghost hunting videos on utubes. Ha
Kenneth Ketchum They track but don’t necessarily watch every detail. Only if something happens such as saying something the government wants to keep under wraps.
That definitely matters, if they notice you cutting down on your fast food they can and will throw some ads for it at your face
Lolololol!!!!
@@trtrhr i think you responded to the wrong person,,,,
but if your device is anonymous, like you dont log in and you scramble the MAC address you send to the router, you shouldnt be recognisable