Why Math is Important

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  • @WordsFromTheMuck
    @WordsFromTheMuck 7 років тому +153

    As an English teacher, I get the, "When will I need this" question a lot. And it's just like you're saying: in a sense they won't. They won't need to chart out plot or solidify their ideas for the theme of a work, but just like you're saying for math, these skills will enhance their lives. The world becomes a richer environment for us to live in when we know how it is put together and how it works. Great video. Thanks for getting people to think. I love it.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +12

      haha yeah but by the time you've said all that they've stopped paying attention...

    • @swayamprakashkar9664
      @swayamprakashkar9664 3 роки тому +8

      More than imp.,english definitely plays huge role in communicarion skill

    • @formasi4337
      @formasi4337 2 роки тому

      right now theres a few billionaires that has math major. even elon musk has physics major. so the answer is simple. to be a billionaire.

    • @anonymousplayer8174
      @anonymousplayer8174 Рік тому

      I love learning maths but dont like learning english

    • @regalmedia9487
      @regalmedia9487 Рік тому

      we need language proficiency. look at how kids in school talk. dont know 50 words in total.

  • @Phrenotopia
    @Phrenotopia 7 років тому +165

    My teenage daughter asked me the same question many months ago and, despite my background in science, I was stumped! Of course, I knew that you need it for science if you wanna go that direction, but what if you don't? This video really nails it: It helps you getting into the habit of thinking in a systematic way! And then to think I have been saying the same thing about studying at university for years!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +15

      haha now you can show her this video! I'm interested to hear what she has to say :)

    • @TheAmazingRaptor
      @TheAmazingRaptor 4 роки тому +6

      Math is also the reason for millions of suicides

    • @OverlordOfNerds
      @OverlordOfNerds 3 роки тому +11

      @@TheAmazingRaptor It is not maths, it is pressure from the education system

    • @thatguywhois
      @thatguywhois 2 роки тому +5

      ​@@OverlordOfNerds yep and that's where the more important questions should be addressed. Why do we need to push and put pressure to the kids on subject that they're not interested and are stressed out because of it?

    • @mmj5916
      @mmj5916 11 місяців тому

      You know even before thinking about the optimization my immediate instinct was that the area that was covered that is covered is bullet hole is totally unecessary the engine is supposed to blow up if bullets hit on it.And the fuel tanks can probably take alot more damage before blowing up or something.Probably the result of watching a lot of engineering videos.

  • @TheManolis1984
    @TheManolis1984 6 років тому +445

    Math would be amazing if they werent taught that way. If they were taught as part of actual physical examples. I am a mechanical engineer, I use math every day at work, but i always hated them with a passion.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  6 років тому +51

      haha a mechanical engineer that hates math? that's unusual :)

    • @TheManolis1984
      @TheManolis1984 6 років тому +48

      Up and Atom Not so much. It might have to do with how math is taught in my country, but from what i can see, it is the same around the world.
      You start with intuitive things (John has 3 apples and Maria gives him another 4 apples) but then they become this arbitrary monster.
      I know a lot of people that new how to solve integrals just because they had to but only realised what an integral actually is in university. However my experience is not a representative sample.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  6 років тому +41

      no I know what you mean. I remember in high school i thought math was easy because it was "just a bunch of rules". Pretty sure most students don't really know what they're doing when they're taking derivatives and performing chain rules.

    • @anthonynorman7545
      @anthonynorman7545 4 роки тому +1

      @Joel Penley biased math teacher agreeing with you

    • @souravsahoo1582
      @souravsahoo1582 4 роки тому +7

      @@upandatom (a+b)2=a2+2ab+b2
      What I do with this in my life?????????????

  • @ScienceAsylum
    @ScienceAsylum 7 років тому +107

    Great vid!! I loved the intro bit with the chalkboard and the take-away message :-) Also, the faint spotlight you added to the background has added a lot of depth to the shot. Huge improvement!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +13

      Thanks! Michael Moore from Brain Candy TV gave me the tip at vidcon!

  • @Pete-Prolly
    @Pete-Prolly 6 років тому +40

    If someone asks you "when are you ever going to use this?" Proudly say: "Never! But... I am soooo damn great at it!"

  • @kenahoo
    @kenahoo 7 років тому +36

    I love this video and the case you present. I completely agree.
    When I hear the same question, I also like to point out that a HUGE amount of the things we learn in school are not going to be directly required on the job or "on the streets." For example, right from kindergarten we learn things like how to color in the lines, how to play a xylophone, and how to string beads on yarn. I've never had a job that required any of these things, nor has someone "walked up to me on the street" (as students like to put this scenario) and demanded I demonstrate one of these things. Yet these lessons are excellent ways to develop skills as a child and become a more capable and practiced full human being.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +2

      I agree! I guess the feeling is especially strong in mathematics because it seems so alien to every day life. But as you said, I have never needed to string beads on yarn but for some reason the question doesn't arise in those instances.

    • @ti84satact12
      @ti84satact12 Рік тому

      It’s funny how many people are agreeing with you about the importance of math and education, in general. However, this comment section and the others like it are like the planes returning with all the bullet holes in the fuselage-we’re missing the ones that are actually getting shot down! I’d like to hear some comments from students who think math and education is useless! They represent the planes getting shot down!

    • @jameshixson4770
      @jameshixson4770 2 місяці тому

      The things you learn in kindergarten or elementary school don't require a lot of time to learn. Math such as Algebra, calculus take so much time to learn, and take time away from learning things that are practical and useful in everyday life.

  • @ProfessorPolitics
    @ProfessorPolitics 7 років тому +166

    So I definitely used to be one of those "when am I ever going to use maths" people. Fast-forward a few years and I'm reading papers based on set theory and working my own piece that looks at a messy mix of maths and stats towards a general theory of Congressional roll-call votes. I'm never going to be a full-blown mathematician or statistician but, by learning the logic underlying those fields, I'm a much better social scientist, educator, and consumer of information. And, also, math and physics is also just pretty dang cool-- as many of your videos easily points out.
    This collaboration was a lot of fun! I'm really enjoying going through and checking out everyone's videos!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +20

      Haha oh, so did I. Pretty sure everyone in my maths class was one of those people. That's why I wanted to make this video. And even if you're not going to be a mathematician, maths is so cool! If only teachers taught more of the conceptual stuff behind the exercises than just focusing on rote learning, that would be great.
      I'm just about to go through the playlist!

    • @emanandchill
      @emanandchill 5 років тому +3

      @@sunchi11 you're an idiot.

  • @Socratica
    @Socratica 7 років тому +258

    Math as mental exercise is a great motivator. Use it or lose it!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +28

      haha I've unfortunately somewhat lost it :(

    • @user-vh4jn4vv8e
      @user-vh4jn4vv8e 6 років тому

      I requested you to make video on how to study maths, you didn't. Please do. Socratica

    • @ainuunia3797
      @ainuunia3797 5 років тому +1

      Math help people make a right discussion.

    • @J0hnHenrySNEEDen
      @J0hnHenrySNEEDen 5 років тому +2

      And the source of stress
      Why would i even use it as motivator

    • @Frosty-eq3zf
      @Frosty-eq3zf 3 роки тому +2

      Math motivates me to kill myself.

  • @vger5857
    @vger5857 6 років тому +77

    Some math is oké, but I still don't know why I had to learn so much about integrals, differentials, and last but not least about 30 rules concerning the use of sinus, cosinus and tanges. On the other hand, some statistical arithmatic made me a lot wiser.

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 3 роки тому +6

      It's practice for your logic circuits.

  • @michelgent7419
    @michelgent7419 3 роки тому +31

    I taught for years math quite successfully. And have a degree in physics.
    I highly disagree. The logic of math should be taught, not the endless useless drills and exercises.
    It can very much be done, but schools would have to completely change their curriculum

    • @thatguywhois
      @thatguywhois 2 роки тому +1

      oh wow well said, coming from someone with integrity too!

  • @busyrand
    @busyrand 6 років тому +11

    Fantastic practical explanation! Math is a fully immersive and reflective discipline that is unmatched, and can be applied to anything. I find myself wanting to circle back to things I didn't understand so that I can develop more as a thinker.

  • @BlackJar72
    @BlackJar72 6 років тому +35

    Math can be very useful in programming, at least some kinds -- game programming is especially math heavy. I use a lot of math to mod Minecraft (especially algebra, geometry, set theory, and graph theory), and even have used even more when tinkering with making my game or engine (then the calculus and linear algebra come into play) -- not to mention that algorithms fundamentally are math and designing them is also what makes programming fun.

  • @frederic4844
    @frederic4844 6 років тому +4

    Great video, again 😄
    The problem with maths is that it takes a lot to become fluent enough to use it as a « natural tool », without even thinking, but when you can do it, it is very powerful, allowing you to easily recognize trends and patterns and even more, to formalize them like : « uh, this behaves like an exponential » and to think further (what can possibly be the reason for this particular behavior).

  • @Dipscovery
    @Dipscovery Рік тому +5

    This needs to be told every kid in primary school and high school. I wasn't the best at math and didn't appreciate it, only as I got older I understood why its important.

    • @Dipscovery
      @Dipscovery Рік тому

      @@user-hz9om2ry3h you really missed the message here.

    • @givepeaceachance940
      @givepeaceachance940 Рік тому

      In a simplified manner in primary school, but sure

  • @toothpastehombre
    @toothpastehombre 5 років тому +3

    This is now my favorite video of yours. True noble work you are doing with your channel! Much love

    • @anymaths
      @anymaths 4 роки тому

      watch my maths videos.

  • @Jabrils
    @Jabrils 7 років тому +81

    the animation at 4:17 had me laughing so hard hahaha. great video

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +7

      Glad I could make you laugh Jabril :)

    • @empire-classfirenationbatt2691
      @empire-classfirenationbatt2691 6 років тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @hoo1320
      @hoo1320 5 років тому +2

      Hey Jabrils this is really awesome to see you here before 2 years 🙄

  • @xavierkreiss8394
    @xavierkreiss8394 3 роки тому +17

    I have never understood maths above simple calculation. I was "bottom of the class" in maths for years, and since I left school (to become a journalist) I have avoided maths as much as possible.
    I don't think I've missed anything, it's never been "important" to me.
    I've certainly never needed it (apart from some very simple calculation from time to time). There are other ways of exercising and using the mind.

  • @AvenMcM
    @AvenMcM 7 років тому +98

    The soccer analogy is perfect. Great video, as always!

    • @patfonta8818
      @patfonta8818 5 років тому

      everybody uses mathematics to play pool

  • @ericselectrons
    @ericselectrons 7 років тому +11

    Brain development and staying sharp is big with me. Although I love physics, the math involved sometimes gets difficult to weather I get through the hard mathematics by doing a couple of things:
    1. Simply thinking to myself I'm improving my overall brain cognition.
    2. Knowing that in order to be "find things out deeply" since I'm insatiably curious, I have to understand the mathematics behind physical phenomena (I aspire to be a PHd physicist).
    I think the key for educators is to teach people to think of their personal drivers, in other words their "why," to find the significance of mathematics and science in general. If they're into sports, appeal to that as you've done here. If they're into fashion, appeal to that. Mathematics is everywhere and we should always strive to understand the things that makes us ask questions. Loved your video!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +5

      Thank you! I agree. During my physics degree math was definitely very taxing and I tried to avoid it if I could. But some things you simply can't understand without doing the math (basically all of quantum physics lol). You miss out on some amazing and wonderful things if you try to avoid it. But math is also very useful just in itself. I think it's because it's so abstract that it is difficult to see the end goal or what you are doing when you solve all these equations and learn techniques. Which is a shame, but it's also just the nature of it.

  • @MrJimbissle
    @MrJimbissle 2 роки тому +1

    Well said. I have found myself using things I didnt even realize I had learned in school. Its a shame we have lost so much curiosity, as a group. Life is so much richer when you keep asking questions.

  • @davidbrown8763
    @davidbrown8763 4 роки тому +2

    So nice to be able to enjoy a a math/science documentary without being distracted by unnecessary, annoying background music - therefore I will subscribe.
    Thank you for your informative, enjoyable lecture Jade - please keep it up.

  • @FelicianaDelacruz
    @FelicianaDelacruz 4 роки тому +9

    I wish math had been taught this way when I went to college. Engineering school would have been much more pleasant, my professors made it about as enjoyable as a root canal. I actually enjoy math and use it daily in my work as an electrical engineer. Thank you for the wonderful videos. By the way I had the same look in class as the one in your video. Keep up the awesome work!

    • @TarunKanthK
      @TarunKanthK 2 роки тому

      If my teacher thought math this way
      I would have enjoyed the story very well.
      Then after the actual math class starts. As usual, it will be some mumbo jumbo that don't fit in my brain cells. 😄

  • @whocares4592
    @whocares4592 7 років тому +7

    You are so expresive explaining these concepts, great content as always.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому

      Thank you so much!

    • @whocares4592
      @whocares4592 2 місяці тому

      @@upandatomi knew your channel would grow, great work!. How much subs you had when you uploaded this video?

  • @gruntslayer3524
    @gruntslayer3524 4 роки тому +5

    Honestly calc 2 and diff eq were my favorite classes and Ik those aren’t super high level math classes but it was just very interesting to learn all those processes for solving

  • @jayjacob9621
    @jayjacob9621 5 років тому +4

    This is one of those rare videos I'm going to show my kids when they are just old enough for the message to sink in. Thank you for your awesome videos!

  • @DagarCoH
    @DagarCoH 6 років тому +7

    Came here from Joe Scott. Math was my minor subject at university. And apart from giving me the opportunity to meet my (then future) wife, I think having an understanding about math helps me in my daily life by letting my take up and evaluate anything that has to do with numbers really quickly and without having to put hard mental work into it. Which is quite useful if you read stuff like news articles with some numbers they took from who knows where and use to make you feel a certain way. Or if you read so called statistics done by anti-vaxxers on their websites...

  • @ResearchTheology
    @ResearchTheology 2 роки тому

    Just came across you channel as a random YT recommendation .. watched one and now I'm hooked and subbed!! Your content is brilliant. Keep up the great work.

  • @mohamadfaiz326
    @mohamadfaiz326 5 років тому +22

    I understand that mathematics may help with reasoning and critical thinking, but to make it like a tool to see who is more intelligent is flawed.
    I mean what if in a hypothetical situation a young student dislikes math and isn't naturally good at it, thus making her GPA drop. But in other fields like art and English, she excells at it. So after graduation and applying for an art college, she gets declined because of her low GPA which was caused by her inability to pass math classes during school.
    Math is a pill that when taken the right amount, can be useful, but when overdosed, it will impair students to be successful .
    Making higher math like calculus and trigonometry an obligation to credit requirements is irrational and useless.
    Which is ironic because math was supposed to teach to rationalize.

    • @SeanPAllen
      @SeanPAllen 5 років тому

      @Mohammed Elmouhsine The point still stands. They're two of the most difficult courses a student's final year of secondary school math may hold, yet also two of the most commonly seen throughout American and European school systems.
      They are the highest forms of math available to most people throughout their final year. Ergo, 'higher' math.

    • @exaucemayunga22
      @exaucemayunga22 4 роки тому

      @Mohammed Elmouhsine they are

    • @merlinthegreat100
      @merlinthegreat100 4 роки тому +1

      The point isn’t to obligate the learning of something they’ll never use. It’s to familiarize them with mathematics that was invented 400 years ago! The average joe doesn’t know how google works, how weather behaves, or the algorithms used by tik tok, Facebook, or amazon, much less about how money is managed around the world by quantitative hedge funds and investment banks. People should be aware of how all of these things work

    • @tinchote
      @tinchote 4 роки тому +2

      There's people like me whose GPA was lower because of art, literature, history. We should definitely make art and English not mandatory then, right? And gym too, when are you going to use those squats in real life?

  • @BryanLeeWilliams
    @BryanLeeWilliams 6 років тому +3

    This is an awesome video. I have a math minor, computer science major, but I never understood why everyone needed to learn math. My wife passed College Algebra with a failing grade (a very high F), because I was friendly with her teacher (having the majority of my classes in his department) and begged him to pass her. (She needed that one class to graduate and it was her last semester)
    So I guess I see why it's important we try to understand math. I don't think it should be a requirement for us to pass.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  6 років тому

      What a great husband you are :)

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat 7 років тому +134

    Alright. You changed my mind. :D

    • @sunchi11
      @sunchi11 5 років тому +6

      Not me

    • @zoebanlaoi819
      @zoebanlaoi819 3 роки тому +1

      @@sunchi11 same

    • @nilsastrup8907
      @nilsastrup8907 3 роки тому

      @@J0hnHenrySNEEDen Maybe if it's tought wrongly, but math isn't like that on its own.

  • @johncollins1622
    @johncollins1622 3 роки тому

    Thanks you, Jade. I'm a private pilot and former EAA member who used to fly experimental (amateur-built) aircraft. And had an interest in statistics. One of the statistical stories I read about involved the question of where to add armor for carrier-based fighters. They were being shot up in the engine compartment and the fuel tanks but some were still making it back for landing--or sometimes ditching near the carrier and being rescued. But not a single plane had been shot in the empenage (tail cone) where the elevator cable pulley was located. If you lose your elevator the nose pitches down and you crash into the sea. So that's one of the places where they added armor. It was practical because the empennage is so small it involved little weight penalty.
    I once saw a British aerobatic pilot (Manx Kelly, sponsored by Players--as in "Players Please") lose his elevator while performing a Cuban Eight in Corona CA (early 1970's). He did not survive.

  • @Juan-yj2nn
    @Juan-yj2nn 3 роки тому +5

    Well, it depends. Most of the time math is taught as a collection of nonsensensical rules and formulas. That doesn't develop your thinking at all. So I disagree.

    • @brainfartstudios2829
      @brainfartstudios2829 3 роки тому

      Sorry I'm replying a month later. It's true that, while math may include logical thinking, it does inevitably have some rote learning. Hell, that's true for most science subjects, like having to memorize scientific laws and principles.
      But it's about the way you APPLY those formulas. If all you had to do was memorize the formulas and use them without thinking twice, math would be the easiest subject ever.
      There's different, unique and creative ways to use those formulas, it's not the same question over and over again. And there's also the fact that there's certain conditions of when NOT to use those formulas.
      If you keep practicing these questions, you'll definitely become more open minded and start to use more brainpower.

  • @KhAnubis
    @KhAnubis 7 років тому +1

    Everyone else is saying this, but the football analogy was a really good illustration of a skill set helping one become better at something completely different, like how more basic math can actually be a big help outside of math and science. (My former math teacher runs a channel called Atomic Game Theory, where he applies mathematical concepts to board games)

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +1

      Ooh that channel sounds super cool! I'll be sure to check it out :)

  • @Filet64
    @Filet64 7 років тому +9

    Love the new background! Also this chapter reminds me of a chapter in "Thinking, Fast and Slow" about regression to the mean. If you haven't read it I highly suggest it :)
    Also, great video!!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому

      Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @ffhashimi
    @ffhashimi 6 років тому +5

    The Problem is not about Math it's about the way they teach math, Great video thanks

  • @passamaquoddy8311
    @passamaquoddy8311 2 роки тому

    The plane-example gives a wounderful argument.

  • @santicruz4012
    @santicruz4012 4 роки тому +1

    When I started to take math more seriously, I realized that my thought process was becoming sharper, I’m not a smart person at all, but I’m starting to develop skills that I never thought I was capable of.

  • @nasseryousif1222
    @nasseryousif1222 5 років тому +19

    0:20 any questions? Me: Yeah wtf?

  • @吉米-f9w
    @吉米-f9w 3 роки тому +1

    this is what I asked my teacher back in school and THIS is the answer I was expecting to keep me motivated...

  • @einfachorangensaft4879
    @einfachorangensaft4879 4 роки тому

    I’m studying history and oriental studies and I’ve never came across situation, where I thought I absolutely needed maths but I understand your points. Great video btw 👍

  • @johanpersson5526
    @johanpersson5526 6 років тому

    I will definitely do that, right away as I am heading off to teach a physics class. Thank you so much for your inspiring films!

  • @Motivation45407
    @Motivation45407 2 роки тому +1

    This isn't enough to convince anyone to like maths I think. 🙂 But I like your videos very much. You are too good and entertaining.

  • @johnnychang4233
    @johnnychang4233 7 років тому +1

    It's always better having the knowledge and not need to use it than searching for knowledge when you are in the urge to solve a problem.

  • @ansh7156
    @ansh7156 4 роки тому +2

    Maths - Only helps in increasing understand potential and solving in daily life
    Physics - Does what maths does + actually helpful more in daily life + is everywhere around us + new technologies and inventions could be made
    So overall if you taught people advanced physics .. it will help them in what math does + other benefits too
    So what I want to say is dont teach advanced integrals and differenciation or other concepts that are not applied in our daily life
    Instead teach advanced physics. Right?

  • @vincenzodevito6999
    @vincenzodevito6999 Рік тому

    Thanks to my love of math and science allowed me to get to know you my favorite video producer and mathematical muse. Ps. I love your accent from down under.

  • @shubhamnsun
    @shubhamnsun 6 років тому +1

    You are really great at explaining things beautifully

  • @mathOgenius
    @mathOgenius 4 роки тому

    I would not be able to watch this video without my phone ,breaking the EM waves into 0's and 1's(Fourier Transform).. because of mathematics,So, it is useful ! Normal people dont see that beacuse they are not breaking the waves into 0's and 1's by themselves.. computers do that that's why most people think maths isn't useful but deep down we all know.. math is everything

  • @matthewalan59
    @matthewalan59 6 років тому

    Hmm. You are so adorable.
    I have read Jordan Ellenberg's book twice. I should read it again as I am forgetful and it is full of worthwhile ideas. It really is a great book and I am very pleased to see you promoting it.
    A long time ago I spent almost twelve years of my life teaching high school math at a small community college. I answered the question: "When will I ever use this math?" with blunt honestly. I told my students that they would probably never use any of it.
    Certainly my pre-nursing students could expect NEVER to have to prove a trigonometric identity while practicing as a nurse. However, proving trigonometric identities is fun. That is why we do it. For the fun of it. Also, because I will not give you a passing mark in the course until you prove them and you will never get into your nursing program without a passing mark in my course.
    So, even if it does not seem like fun, make it fun.
    My students were fine with this. I was enthusiastic about my teaching as I believe mathematics is beautiful and fun. I liked giving students some understanding and mastery. By doing so they become independent. They can see that truth is something that is part of reality and not just something made up by someone with the biggest gun. I also liked to show them that with practice and understanding they could become competent and confident with respect to any mathematics they might someday encounter.

  • @rpcruz
    @rpcruz 7 років тому +1

    Great content as always. You really deserve more people! I think you should appear in another famous youtuber, talk to them and do a video for them, so that his/her viewers can see who you are... plenty of people do this to get subscribers...

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому

      Thank you! haha I'm working on it ;) I want to get my videos to a really good quality and also upload more regularly before approaching a big youtuber. Gotta have a good channel going to get good help!

  • @Rise9192Against
    @Rise9192Against 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the story and referencing "The Power of Mathematical Thinking". I know where to read next in my math journey :) .

  • @davidjames1684
    @davidjames1684 3 роки тому

    2 things: fyoo suh laazh is how you are supposed to pronounce fuselage. The most vulnerable part of the plane I think would be the pilot, since if the engine is shot out, there is still a chance the plane can be landed (or ditched) safely. With no pilot, that doesn't seem likely.

  • @rksnj6797
    @rksnj6797 5 років тому

    I wish I had you for a math teacher! My math teachers who used "practical examples" held my attention better than teachers who would drone on about theory.

  • @azaanibrahimmohamed2846
    @azaanibrahimmohamed2846 3 місяці тому

    Thank you very much for the advice you shared with us from Somalia

  • @lumigg2556
    @lumigg2556 7 років тому +9

    If I only had have a teacher like you I probably could had a chance at being good in math #FeelsBadMan... btw cool animations :D

  • @resolversoftware5088
    @resolversoftware5088 2 роки тому

    The problem with the planes was presented also in the book how not to be wrong.Good video!

  • @AgentOccam
    @AgentOccam 6 років тому

    Phew, so glad you referenced 'How Not to Be Wrong, by Jordan Ellenberg. I've read it and was watching thinking 'hope she credits the Ellenberg book, because this is mostly from that book". And you did. Great book, I highly recommend it.

  • @Continential
    @Continential 2 роки тому +1

    Math has tons of applications. If the purpose of mathematics in schooling was to train reasoning ability, then replacing math courses with logic courses should be advocated for by your reasoning. Your argument also has a flaw since somebody who disagreed could just respond "then why don't you exercise the reasoning faculty of children by having them do activities that are both reasoning intensive AND directly applicable?"

  • @jaylegenhausen2491
    @jaylegenhausen2491 3 роки тому

    Hey,, that's the same analogy I use in my high school math classes I teach (except I say push-ups and running laps around the soccer field instead of weight- training and cones). Anyway, great video. I am going to show it to my classes tomorrow.

  • @Ed-bj5eq
    @Ed-bj5eq 4 роки тому

    Software like Maxima, Geogebra, MathCad etc helps a lot with skipping the boring part of math, by symbolically or numerically solving the equations, leaving us with the fun part: building models and interpreting results. Always heated solving equations, computers can do that in most cases 😉

  • @scotte2815
    @scotte2815 6 років тому +2

    this same problem was offered to me and it took me 1 second to come up with the same answer. The key is the planes that don't come back

  • @LampifiedOrangePillowcase
    @LampifiedOrangePillowcase 3 роки тому +2

    Math makes me go insane EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH SCHOOL MAKES ME INSANEEE

  • @pavolgalik9764
    @pavolgalik9764 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the perfect video. I am a teacher of mathematics and physics. You know, every person, when he gets on a plane, believes that the plane will take him safely to where he needs to be, everyone who drives a car believes that it will take him safely to where he wants to go, everyone believes that economists will calculate a fair salary for him, whether old age pension. Every day, we rely on a PC or a mobile phone, or on the correct exact time. Etc. As you can see, everyone just believes. But there are people (scientists, technicians...) who initially believed that such a thing was possible, but then they realized their dreams into our everyday reality. I hate celebrities who publicly state that they never needed math or physics. Yes, it is a tragedy when those people who do not understand mathematics or physics at all make majors of people who are experts in math and physics. How can they objectively assess the amount of work done by mathematicians, physicists, technicians...?Finally, I will mention the old Indian saying that all evil comes from human stupidity. Eliminate human stupidity and you eliminate evil and therefore wars. (that could be the motto of the misses:-)) Although we will not completely eradicate stupidity through education, we will at least limit it.

  • @donepearce
    @donepearce 5 років тому +2

    I had exactly these thoughts in my early maths classes. But pretty soon I found I was using bits of this stuff designing radios. Now, many years later, I have used all of it and much more designing components of spacecraft, from communications to experiments. I would be lost without an ability to do advanced maths. Now of course I don't have to perform the actual calculations - Mathcad, Matlab etc do that stuff for me. But I still need to understand what the correct calculation is. And most of all I need sufficient insight to recognise a right answer from a wrong one.

    • @givepeaceachance940
      @givepeaceachance940 Рік тому

      It doesn’t matter ultimately if you can perform the calculation, you need to be able to know how to *set up the problem* or even *recognize which calculation to do*

  • @dutonic
    @dutonic 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with the video, but the argument feels pretty weak. As a college student in my fourth semester of calculus, there are loads of actual uses for the concepts of what I'm learning. Will I ever need to know how to anything that wolfram alpha could do for me irl. No. And in fact, the second half of differential equations is essentially nullifying the usefulness of the first half by giving us Laplace transformations to solve differential equations. I don't feel like I've wasted my time with the nitty grittyness of calc though. But this is only because I love the process of doing math. If I hated math, I would not feel satisfied at all with my time in math classes in terms of the ratio work:usefulness. If you don't like math, math will suck. Be prepared and assess if stem is really a field that you want to dedicate your life to.

  • @pandaoverboard
    @pandaoverboard 2 роки тому

    Subscribed! Great vid and examples :D

  • @Yathuprem
    @Yathuprem 7 років тому +7

    The same exact question i asked myself during college.. Nice video..

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  7 років тому +2

      haha I asked myself during high school

  • @ScienceC
    @ScienceC 7 років тому +5

    Really great video! I loved the soccer analogy and the airplane story

  • @FiVeRowZ
    @FiVeRowZ Рік тому +3

    So, it doesnt make sense

  • @lapse9continuum765
    @lapse9continuum765 Рік тому

    I'm a math tutor and get this question from students all the time. My typical reply goes something like this: "It's not a matter of WHO uses it; it's a matter of the utility of mathematics in general. We have math to thank for the modern world full of amazing technology in which we live. Math is among the MOST practical tools ever developed by humanity. Since we can never know for sure which students will grow up to apply math toward the benefit of society, we need to make sure all students are at least given the chance. Better to know it and not need it than to need it and not know it." Humanity on the whole needs mathematics in order to thrive, make progress, and accomplish our goals. Being a student in math class means being a part of something larger than yourself -- it's part of being human. (Speaking from experience: most students have a difficult time arguing their way out of that one!😂)

  • @alvinuli5174
    @alvinuli5174 2 роки тому

    It doesn't make sense but to watch Jade always worth it.

  • @gguarnieri82
    @gguarnieri82 4 роки тому

    I am an electronics engineer and now I develop software for image processing. My problem is precisely the opposite: the maths I learned in school is far too simple for my everyday needs and I always have to make research. For a simple brightness and contrast adjustment, I encountered a problem of fractional functional iteration. For high dynamic range imaging, the most effective and efficient approach is to solve constrained optimization problems with millions of unknowns. Noise reduction is often formulated as a nonlinear partial differential equation. Speed is important, therefore Remez and Padé approximations are all over the place. When teaching print to my students, I had to show plots of 6-dimensional functions. I used 4-dimensional Gaussian quadrature to estimate the error un a 3D reconstruction. Mathematical models of photographic film often involve hypergeometric functions. And in a program that reduces the atmospheric turbulence in photos taken from a long distance, I had to use e Fox-Wright function, which is a hypergeometric function generalized 2 times. And finally, since human vision is involved, physiology and psychology also have an impirtant role.

  • @sahilraj3852
    @sahilraj3852 6 років тому +5

    I have shared this video to many of my friends that even they could understand why we learn mathematics problem and where we gonna use them !
    Very unique video ! Best wishes for ur new videos 💐💐💐💐💐💐

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  6 років тому +1

      Thank you for sharing this! It means a lot and really helps :) Hope to hear from you again!

  • @Ferraco05
    @Ferraco05 5 років тому +4

    Thanks for the book recommendation. Great read!

  • @niloljk7884
    @niloljk7884 4 роки тому

    I never truly said “when will this be useful too me” but I wish that someone would assess how much math is being taught. Im not a person to argue with learning (I love Learning, I do a lot of history, English, and science on my own spare time for fun) but the amount of math were learning is used later in university for fields that it is needed in. I guess that’s truly why they teach it all. So they don’t have to go over it in university for those who have peeked interests in the science field and of course “Math”

  • @mrxinnovations809
    @mrxinnovations809 5 місяців тому

    mathematics cultivates the right mindset and aptitude for solving problems , the mentality with which you attack maths problems can be the mentality with which you attack your personal life problems.

  • @VerifiedNobody
    @VerifiedNobody 3 роки тому +2

    genie: aalambana.. You have three wishes..
    me: I wish there was no maths
    genie: Your wish is granted. You have no more wishes.
    Moral of the Story: Math is important

  • @themodernwaiter8455
    @themodernwaiter8455 2 роки тому

    I like the video just because the way you explain is so appealing

  • @topilinkala1594
    @topilinkala1594 10 місяців тому +1

    I've always said that studying engineering makes you an engineer but studying math makes you what ever you want.

  • @Amethyst_Friend
    @Amethyst_Friend 8 місяців тому

    Jade, you look so fed up in the thumbnail! Not an aspect we associate with your enthusiastic personality at all. 😊

  • @Armadder
    @Armadder 3 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU! I've been saying this for a long time.

  • @bhavini8212
    @bhavini8212 6 років тому

    This is wonderful editing!
    What software did u use to make the pictures and stuff? Are they all digital or something?

  • @DeveloPlayLLC
    @DeveloPlayLLC 7 років тому +1

    Love this! Great example of how we use what we learn, even when we think we never will... :)

  • @emilylima6253
    @emilylima6253 2 роки тому

    Thank you! So helpful! Great video! ❤️👏🏻

  • @ReevansElectro
    @ReevansElectro 6 років тому

    There are a few mathematicians who realize that what is being taught is actually just the mechanics of math and not really the reasoning and concepts behind it. I excelled in math in college and won half a dozen junior math contests in high school and agree with changing our math programs to focus on the concepts of math rather than the mechanics of manipulating equations. We all use math and calculus every day when we drive our cars: how much speed and acceleration are needed to safely go around a corner, how hard to push the brake pedal to come to a complete stop at a stop light, how much further can I travel with the amount of gas in my tank etcetera. How about estimating the time for the water to fill our hemispherical bathroom sink? Delivering unit impulses to metallic fastening​ devices (hammering nails).

  • @VishalParmar-wc9rb
    @VishalParmar-wc9rb 7 років тому +3

    Now I can die in Peace. Btw, i tried clearing my Applied Maths paper for 2 years...didnt happened. So i quit studies. But i still miss physics. Not Maths ;-)

  • @Masoudy91
    @Masoudy91 5 років тому

    Mechatronics engineer here, no, not me nor my professor(s) are using math other than university curriculum.
    And personally, students should not waist their youth by hammering them with how complicated math could be. It is like training with 100kg dumbbells. Some may do it but its the wrong way to train 🚉.
    However, it becomes really really simple (a matter of plug and play) once you use it. Have you ever made your own rendering engine? That can optimize your product?

  • @Peter_1986
    @Peter_1986 Рік тому

    Even the shapes of relatively familiar everyday objects rely on math;
    for example, if you want to make a box of a certain volume that consists of as little material as possible, then you can do that by taking a bunch of partial derivatives and finding the x- and y-values from those solutions.

    • @FffXdhgf
      @FffXdhgf 8 місяців тому

      A box is a box

    • @Peter_1986
      @Peter_1986 8 місяців тому

      @@FffXdhgf Yes, but one specific shape will require as little material as possible for a given volume, and this is interesting from an economical perspective.
      For example, a closed cuboid box will have minimum material when all sides have the same length.

  • @jjophoven
    @jjophoven Рік тому +1

    If its about the problem solving of math why don't we just do that?

  • @isaacbernardez6193
    @isaacbernardez6193 5 років тому +5

    YES I FINALLY FOUND A FUN VIDEO FOR MY 7TH GRADE MATH CLASS😭 getting kids really thinking about math is nuts

    • @TheAmazingRaptor
      @TheAmazingRaptor 4 роки тому +1

      It’s because it is the main stress factor and reason for lots of suicides

    • @izawa9211
      @izawa9211 3 роки тому +1

      Im not going to be some popular genius do sciensists would visit me
      After that video as a student i would just kill myself cuz my teacher would say
      See kids you need to know how to make complicated math and its not like none of you will be so popular that sciensists will never visit you

  • @bigmike8847
    @bigmike8847 4 роки тому +1

    Counter:
    At the end of the day I dont need a math class to make me "smarter" day to day. Math ISN'T the only way to critical thinking, and thinking that is no different than being one of the generals in the story.
    So far I STILL have never used any of the esoteric maths taught in Algebra 2, trig, College Alg, or calculus. Frankly I forgot all of it when I finished the finals in those respective classes.
    I still stand by that, mostly at the university level, math classes for non STEM majors solely exist to justify a math program and generate money for the school. Math at universities is a scam.

  • @caixadaguaplayz1569
    @caixadaguaplayz1569 4 роки тому +1

    Ok, I still don’t understand why maths is important. Maybe I didn’t understand what was her point about maths in this video. so could someone please explain that to me?

  • @someperson188
    @someperson188 5 років тому

    Of what use is tennis, chess, bridge or math? Tennis keeps one's body fit but injuries often occur if one plays long and hard enough. Chess, bridge, and math keep one's mind fit but many adherents do experience mental breakdowns if one practices them long and hard enough. However, unlike chess and bridge, math can sometimes (but not always) be useful in improving or diminishing the basic conditions of living. Calculus has proven very useful in engineering improvements in living (transportation, refrigeration, electricity, computers, internet, etc.) but, sadly, also in the making of weapons. However, Fermat's Last Theorem seems to have very little effect on the lives of non-mathematicians, as interesting and exciting as it is to me.

  • @BensLab
    @BensLab 7 років тому

    This is so necessary in this day and age, where irrational thinking is sending the world nuts. Well presented and good video.

  • @Suman-zp8gs
    @Suman-zp8gs 5 років тому +3

    Mathematics is the language of the universe
    Great video!👌

    • @Ken.-
      @Ken.- 5 років тому

      When aliens show up, they'll say, "Wait, we learned English for NOTHING!"

  • @WrathofMath
    @WrathofMath 5 років тому

    Been wanting to read that book for a while! Gotta finish Twenty Thousand Leagues first. Great video; outside of the many practical applications of math, it is quite simply good mental exercise. And a strong knowledge of basic probability does one well in a heated game of Mario Party.

  • @gogolplex8576
    @gogolplex8576 7 років тому +2

    The explanation was on point. Thank you!

  • @dtm7743
    @dtm7743 5 років тому

    Well i am super convinced that every one should learn math but i presume it would be better to practice it solving real life problems than just keep doing integrals and memorize formulas that help you along the way almost in every single math problem just this is the way i think math should be taught , few days ago i asked my self why do we care about parabolas and guess what ,the answer was parabolas are used to model lots of real life applications ,satellite dishes take the shape of parabola and of course there is a reason , when signals hit the dish all of them have been directed to the focus to be collected there , that is just one example as an electrical engineer math is used all the time to model things
    Yeah your accent is so nice it seems to be it is British

  • @doylesaylor
    @doylesaylor 4 роки тому

    I think the basic gist of this video works for me. I would point out notation like integrals symbol are not math. Math is human cognition that uses various technologies to ‘count’. From that it seems to me this observation offers insight about what to do mathematically as you apply to the fighter example. From a neuro scientific standpoint linking math to thought is an open question. A starting place might be subitizing or perhaps comparing various counting species of animals. Mathematical notation is one guesstimate of how to externally express internal counting if you will.

  • @KristubeYT
    @KristubeYT 3 роки тому +2

    Sure its important BUT IM DEPRESSED

  • @clipuri
    @clipuri 2 роки тому

    I wish someone would have told me that 20 years ago, in a convincing and believable way. Like you did.. Too late for me, but thanks.... Actually putting real effort in math class was not pointless, after all. Having a more powerful brain is always worth the effort, no matter how hard it seems at the time you are doing the heavy lifting