lol ty, I dont mind showing bad play in videos generally speaking since it feels more representative of the average player experience (particularly when first getting used to playing a new character), plus I figure it means players at lower investment levels than I am can still succeed just by playing better
@@Lost_Sas a DPS? Yeah well you'd want her to shred geo anyway, as a support she can shred up to ,3 different elements depending on who's in your team.
That third team is the classic Soluna-flavored shenanigans that is just so weird and I love it so much. Hoyo makes a two modes, support and dps, and leave it to Soluna to find a way to on-field halfway dps Xilonen while in 'support mode' to take advantage of the massive team buffs LOL. Also just in general I loved watching you experiment and figure out her optimal dps combos in real time (hold burst until out of nightsoul, avoid dashing, etc). The moment at 17:55 where you got the combo down and used mad editing skills to time the background music's hit with her burst felt like an amazing payoff because we were learning along with you and rooting for you to do it right. I actually think I'm more likely to remember how to use her because of the way you showed us that process. Stellar vid 11/10 - THANK YOU!
I will mess around with him more after I finish leveling Chiori more, but tbh I think my bigger issue for doing a more “normal” mono geo to use him to his stength is lacking Zhongli. Eg ZL/Chiori/Xilo/Gorou.
Normally I am 100% all for using DPS supports, and the day may come for me to use Xilonen that way as well. But I'm already married, as much as I hate using support, my wife is Dehya and I will do everything it takes for her. She is my DPS.
Yep Ive had the same problem with Kazuha lol. I love having him on a DPS oriented/hybrid build in some form, but it always comes back to a generic supportive build at the end of the day. Or in other words, I wish there was a real loadout system to allow easy switching between weird builds for units…
So my Daughter pulled on Mulan, at 73er pitty she run out of wishes this day, got her on her alt account and saved her wishes, 109 at Xilonen (garenteed) release. Got only Copys of Kachina + some fav and sac weapons on the way. Now on Day one she did pull on Xilonen and got her with the first pull. Pulled on her weapon and got her within her first 10 pull..., Today she pulled on chioris Weapon (70) won her 50/50 what a luck... Now I´m thinking about Chiori, Xilonen, Goru(c5) flex.
@@Solunerra he will be C6 anytime in the Future, we will se if we get enough wishes for Geo Daddy (Welkin), but If there is a hot momy announced while his banner is up she will skip.
20:27 i soon as i heard you say nahida i knew you were going for that bennet,sadly i cant use my xilonen the same way cus i havent yet activated my bennet c6(i will procrastinate for as long as i can)
The problem with dps xilonen isnt Her damage it is verry decent the problem is that when you need to move for any reason (the enemy move or you get hit or the enemy spawn far away..) rip your nightsoul points oops gota re do the rotation
Watching this video after doing multiple runs with my c1r1 dps xilonen yesterday and doing 187 k + 30 k plunges - you don't say 😅 Unfortunately not c2 - not everyone gets her at 50/50 back to back to back 😢. Funny content, can't get enough of your sense of humor
Love playing her dps, tried getting c6 but only managed c3 cuz I lost every 50 50 (last doesnt count bcs radiance) but will get it on rerun, truly a char of all time
@@JigmeSherabWangchukJigmeSherab My Wrio is doing 80-110k in Melt with his highest hits so idk where you think he doesn't do enough damage. Clears everything with ease, the doom posting on Wrio really got to everyone's head. C0R0.
Yay, was searching for it cause i got C2 with uraku misugiri and i already have Haran on my account as well as festering desire and cinnabar spindle. So i don't have anyone who could be interested in it right now except dps Xilonen
I got her C2 after I pulled Uraku instead of her weapon, and using her as a DPS has definitely been the most fun way to use her so far. However for the future I much prefer her being a support for how much use I'll get out of her. I think my favorite thing is how much she buffs geo now, bringing Itto up to modern standards, and bringing Navia's plunges to over 160k as well as her skill up to over 600k. Only thing I don't like is her healing going away.
I play Xilonen C2, Chiori C2, Kachina and Yelan/healer. This team is very fun. Chiori deals more damage off field than Xilonen fighting. This is nothing to for a abyss speedrun, but good for everything else. Xilonen (support) and Chiori are a very good combination in many teams.
Just got Chiori bc I rly rly enjoy her aesthetics and I've been enjoying Geo characters so she's really decent for me, but only video I found on your channel about her was about how disappointed you were of her kit. Just noticed you do have her though, so I'm hoping someday we could see you try to use her more? Maybe find unconventional useful ways to play and enjoy her, as you usually do with characters. Just wanna see my girl get some love 😔 (also because she is relevant rn with her banner)
I guess there’s nearly no area damage or range with this playstyle? The burst obviously had an area, but the infused normals seem to have less reach than average claymore normal attacks. When I trialed Xilonen DPS in the trial and story anyway, I was so close to enemies that the enemy’s punching would connect. Thanks for showcasing and explaining the details.
She's actually pretty insane at C6 as a DPS. Using her weapon (R1) and the Natlan support relic set (not Obsidian) i'm hitting for 90k-110k per normal. 3200 DEF, 67 CR, 120 CD. Group is Gorou, Furina, and a non-PECH flex. If you've got C6 Gorou I'd recommend giving him another shot. He's giving you +438 DEF and +40 CRIT DMG.
If you do Kachina, I hope you try the new spear. No ER for her, but It really looks nice for her DPS. (and it's also the one she carries in the quests.)
My gorou is C5 and level 30 and I find him more useful for Xilonen dps output. Instead of his normal Exile build, I put Cinder City set on him with Fav bow and the team feels very strong. Even though plunge is Xilonen strongest team I find AA teams comfy, Yunjin(4pc husk) Gorou - Furina can clear abyss. I even found using Navia as sub dps for Xilonen can work, Xilonen really is the goat, this is like Furina 2x, so many new teams.
You can give xilonen obsidian set and give gorou cinder city + yelan for example. Gorou gives 15 geo bonus + cinder gives 12 geo bonus and hydro bonus. So ur gorou gives 27 geo bonus and u have good build for xilonen. I think that set is straight up BiS for gorou rn. That's the team im using: Xilonen yelan gorou CC zhongli. Actually VERY fun team.
I used Thoma in NA focus team, had some minor ER problem but it worked pretty good. Also I shoved her with Shimenawa set so her NA dmg was quite alright except that she's single target focus and mustnt have hp lower than 90% for that 3star sword.
U can use Uraku Misugiri for DPS Xilonen i have tested her and she can hit like 88k with her ult. Its nice to see someone using her as a DPS in Abyss, guess i'm not alone anymore........
I have been tryna spread this information on the internet😂 SHE GIVES RES SHRED IN MONO GEO. She just cant charge the bar for other element res shred and the duration is set to half the bar
The Xianyun team, while it does seem good, also seems like it would be pretty annoying to use against any enemy / boss that moves around a lot or groups that tend to get scatter. You just lose so much infusion uptime repositioning. While likely an overall DPS downgrade, I can't help but think it would feel much better to swap Xianyun out for someone like Chiori for sub dps, or maybe a VV unit to buff Furina dmg even further.
Yep that was probably its biggest issue. That can be mitigated by not sprinting around (like Im in the habit of doing) though, but still a problem. I didnt hate being able to move around the arena faster either. Id love to have swapped Xianyun for Chiori, but then Id have no healer for the team (I considered prototype Amber Ningguang on 4pc Maidens though lol)
Instant follow personally i been using mona with the healing catalyst cuz of skill issue and i like the big burst numbers from her ult i will try yae cuz i did have the roto issue aswell
Should be Xilonen + Gorou + Yunjin + Furina Gorou gives Crit that Xilonen lacks, Yunjin makes her NA actually deals dmg, and Furina for dmg bonus and off field dps bcs Xilonen’s field time is short + mid dmg
try xilonen, kachina, yunjin, mika Use kachina's ult if her e-skill is on cooldown (will summon a free spinner). Yunjin on normals multiplier mika on team heal + atk spd
Last night I got Uraku, the I asking to myself, should I build Xilo DPS? And here I am watching your video. Thanks for show me this video because its hard to find xilo dps content. And, I think I will pulll Xianyun at her rerun 😊😊
I thought I mentioned that it would be fine in conjunction with her also healing there? I know I cut out some yapping about Xilo ER needs here but maybe I made some stupid cuts by accident that cut out what I was actually trying to explain lol
Have you tried that last team but with Staff of Scarlet Sands Rosaria instead of xilonen? Probably my favorite cook from back in the day (Be ready to die a lot though)
for some reason i build mine the SUPORT WAY AND she is still hiting 40 k bursts and 20 to 25 k Autos (WITH SKILL UP) Keep in mind she 3100 deff on a full f2p build with c0 and craftable sword from natlan im still processing that this was without major buffs and on a scuffed set with 57cr and 97cd its not anywere near a top dps but to be used as a suport and still do this much damage is not bad since i was only on a suport build and didnt focus to hard on ofensive stats funny and still as some complementary damage in a team were she can if needed do some amount of damage.
DPS Xilonen looks interesting but, correct me if I'm wrong, due to Mihoyo's brilliant design choice, isn't DPS Xilonen only possible in Natlan region with the Phlogiston resource? Because otherwise her nightsoul state goes away once the bar is full. UNLESS she has c6, of course...
The Abyss footage at 10:58 shows the DPS without the Phlogiston (you can check the DPS Kachina video that is after this one on the channel showing the constellations on the Xilonen used). Just remember Natlan character normal attack and skill damage are boosted by a whopping 80% in the Abyss shown on this video so the numbers are inflated. Xilonen needs to be on a team with only one Pyro, Electro, Hydro or Cryo team mate to be in this damage mode. If you for example put a Candace (hydro) + Fischl (electro) into the party, Xilonen switches to healer support mode because you exceeded that limit of one crystallizing element character and you only get 2 geo normal attacks.
Ooof i made my own guide going over dps and what is important lol that passive works not how you explain its 1 of any pech elements, not 2 of each but you need 2 of any combination of them to make passive 1 work yes FYI Bennett does nothing in this team besides applying pyro he offers zero damage boost to xilonen because he adds atk stat not damage directly and she doesn’t benefit of that
What? If I said "each" that was just a slip-up, though I dont recall saying "each," maybe you think an example I gave of a unit combo using same elements was me saying you have to do two of the same element? I dont think I said that, but whatever. I was saying you need 2 pyro/hydro/cryo/electro teammates in a team for her support mode, and can only have 1 or 0 for her DPS mode. I also think you missed what the point was with Benny. Bennett is kinda necessary for the pyro infusion in order to get Xilo to trigger burgeons. And because we have a Pyro and Hydro unit, she isnt really dealing meaningful def scaling damage, which means she was doing atk scaling normals. There was a couple instances you can see her critting for meaningful pyro dmg (even though I didnt configure her to crit consistently). It was ultimately a silly way to have value on fielding Xilo while getting dmg value from her with building EM and still getting buffs from her
i feel like its so dumb for her nightsoul points to run out if she dashes in combat like you dodge an attack wiith her and now you have even less time to do damage with her why not make it so if youre doing damage and dash you dont lose the extra nightsoul points for that dash
Yeah, it is the most awkward part of DPSing her for sure. I think most players would feel pushed towards ZL because of it (plunge with Kachina felt good too though, crystallize shields plus plunges themselves avoid a lot of dmg, and most of the dps loss was caused by my own mistakes ultimately)
I farmed all cinder of city scroll for her but then realised on a dps xilonen obsidian codex is better but does cinder of city scroll still good? Also I use the burst to do damage is that also ok?
I got my first double legendary in Xilonen's banner so I have her c1. ¿Would the reduction in nightsoul consumption let you get away with more plunges or normal attacks?
I did, but it just was not very compelling. I will test it again when I have Chiori finished, but I think Id need Zhongli to really make a mono geo variant with Gorou work.
Yep, C2 is just 50% dmg bonus so a decent buff. C1 does make her NA playstyle meaningfully stronger by allowing more NAs out, but for her plunge playstyle it lets you get 8 plunges easily instead of 7 for C0 Xilo with Xianyun, but I dont think that is the be all end all.
Yes it does, but we werent doing Geo dmg in the Benny team because she was in her support mode since there were 2 pryo/hydro/cryo/electro units on the team, so after 2 normal attacks she exits Nighsoul and then would start doing pyro infused NAs
As someone who uses Kokomi as a Main DPS, DPS Xilonen just felt so right to use. lol Tried her out with Zhongli, Albedo, and Gorou. Ults on ults on ults~!
*sigh* if i was still playing Genshin I definitely would have pulled this character and gotten her C1, a general support, DPS, and a movement character wrapped in one unit, Yessir
Xilone was not designed to be a DPS. She can be an average one but then the question comes… Why? Kkk there are some many strong DPSs out there. To me is a bit of waste of time and resources. I have her at C6 R5 and she is much better as a support. But that is just my own personal opinion.
Why would you get her to a c6 if you think she isn’t a dps? Her c6 isn’t that supportive except from the healing which is similar to Furina c6. Were you just testing or you are getting everyone you like/design to c6 r5? I also recommend watching engineering plastics video “c0 vs c6 damage” on Xilonen C6 potential.
In this game every character can be a dps, and theres something called having fun with characters you like. In the end everyone has their own playstyle
Yes, I believe I mentioned how its mostly a cool thing you can do, and its nice that they gave her decent potential to do that in her kit is kinda all it is. DPSing her is obviously not how she was designed to shine. So the "why" is because you want to. Because you like the character, you like the animations, so you want to do more with her on field. "Why" is because this is a video game, and it can be fun to people to use characters in different ways, and I think many Genshin players feel the different ways you can use units is a big part of its strength. You dont need every unit in the game to clear content in 30 seconds for them to be fun to play. As far as "waste of time and resources," the only extra resources I had to spend specifically for DPS Xilo this video were the materials to take her NA talent to level 6. That's barely anything lol. I won't deny that its resource inefficient to DPS characters that are not good DPS units, but if you want to do it to have fun its just a matter of balancing your resources available relative to whatever goal you are trying to achieve. Im not recommending DPS Xilo as the most efficient way to 36 star the abyss. Im curious why youd bother C6ing her if you didnt want to DPS her?
@@Solunerra good question, I wanted to get her C4 but then for the first time I got two copies of her, didn’t want to have her on C5, then I decided to get her C6 . It was great that you showed her capabilities as a DPS. At least your audience can decide if they want her as a support or DPS.
@@Solunerra haha, it was meant sarcastically. Apparently its 0,2% worse, but still amazing. Can use it on Alhaitham as well etc. Edit: Besides, I LOVE the design of it!
I love the sloppy play and the experimentation. Compared to other videos this is the most relatable and the most fun to watch.
backhanded compliment, nice
lol ty, I dont mind showing bad play in videos generally speaking since it feels more representative of the average player experience (particularly when first getting used to playing a new character), plus I figure it means players at lower investment levels than I am can still succeed just by playing better
Solana out here showing what 95% of the genshin playerbase can do
Dps xilonen is neat, the idea of a dps that inherently also shreds the elemental res of their element is something we really haven't had before
she can only do one at a time tho
@@Lost_Sas a DPS? Yeah well you'd want her to shred geo anyway, as a support she can shred up to ,3 different elements depending on who's in your team.
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou they're saying she can't shred if you want to use her dps e stance
@@vin2164 she can shred geo so long as she's on field,her geo samplers are always active
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou Thats only with c2
That third team is the classic Soluna-flavored shenanigans that is just so weird and I love it so much. Hoyo makes a two modes, support and dps, and leave it to Soluna to find a way to on-field halfway dps Xilonen while in 'support mode' to take advantage of the massive team buffs LOL.
Also just in general I loved watching you experiment and figure out her optimal dps combos in real time (hold burst until out of nightsoul, avoid dashing, etc). The moment at 17:55 where you got the combo down and used mad editing skills to time the background music's hit with her burst felt like an amazing payoff because we were learning along with you and rooting for you to do it right. I actually think I'm more likely to remember how to use her because of the way you showed us that process. Stellar vid 11/10 - THANK YOU!
I remain a staunch supporter of c6 gorou dispite his lacking performance. In the name of sunk cost fallacy, glory to the general
I will mess around with him more after I finish leveling Chiori more, but tbh I think my bigger issue for doing a more “normal” mono geo to use him to his stength is lacking Zhongli. Eg ZL/Chiori/Xilo/Gorou.
i like how you dont need c6 to try a dps playstyle
Normally I am 100% all for using DPS supports, and the day may come for me to use Xilonen that way as well. But I'm already married, as much as I hate using support, my wife is Dehya and I will do everything it takes for her. She is my DPS.
Yep Ive had the same problem with Kazuha lol. I love having him on a DPS oriented/hybrid build in some form, but it always comes back to a generic supportive build at the end of the day.
Or in other words, I wish there was a real loadout system to allow easy switching between weird builds for units…
I love using DPS Bennett in co-op, but he's stuck with a support (or hybrid) build most of the time 😅
She descrese geo res nonetheless while on field. So a off field subdps will benefit even in her dps mode
A geo off field sub dps, i mean
Yep, but the only character I have that does that is Chiori, who Ive not leveled enough right now
if you are using c6 kachina then when you burst you automatically enter night soul without using skill thus she can trigger hero set instantly
So my Daughter pulled on Mulan, at 73er pitty she run out of wishes this day, got her on her alt account and saved her wishes, 109 at Xilonen (garenteed) release.
Got only Copys of Kachina + some fav and sac weapons on the way.
Now on Day one she did pull on Xilonen and got her with the first pull. Pulled on her weapon and got her within her first 10 pull..., Today she pulled on chioris Weapon (70) won her 50/50
what a luck...
Now I´m thinking about Chiori, Xilonen, Goru(c5) flex.
Very lucky lol. Gorou is almost assuredly not worthwhile pre C6 sadly, but with Zhongli I do think Chiori/Xilo should work very well at a baseline
@@Solunerra he will be C6 anytime in the Future, we will se if we get enough wishes for Geo Daddy (Welkin), but If there is a hot momy announced while his banner is up she will skip.
early gamer, im honestly glad your summons went well and the unspoken k word man incident did not repeat
Very silly that 4 Kavehs took more summons than C2 Xilo lol
Trying to build support characters to dps and various teams that aren't meta is fun imo, thank you for the delighful video
5:39 the way her nose shadow moved back and forth💀💀
20:27 i soon as i heard you say nahida i knew you were going for that bennet,sadly i cant use my xilonen the same way cus i havent yet activated my bennet c6(i will procrastinate for as long as i can)
The problem with dps xilonen isnt Her damage it is verry decent the problem is that when you need to move for any reason (the enemy move or you get hit or the enemy spawn far away..) rip your nightsoul points
oops gota re do the rotation
Yeah that was definitely the biggest issue, especially obvious against Magu Kinky
Watching this video after doing multiple runs with my c1r1 dps xilonen yesterday and doing 187 k + 30 k plunges - you don't say 😅
Unfortunately not c2 - not everyone gets her at 50/50 back to back to back 😢. Funny content, can't get enough of your sense of humor
I might try some of the shenanigans once I finish raising Xilonen (and also attempt to do a support Chiori with Peak Patrol)
Excited to see what you cook up with Chiori and Xilonen, thats how I plan to use her! (I have C1 Chiori tho so its a bit easier for me I guess)
My Xilonen is DPS and I am satisfied with the output! I like her as DPS
Love playing her dps, tried getting c6 but only managed c3 cuz I lost every 50 50 (last doesnt count bcs radiance) but will get it on rerun, truly a char of all time
Really glad to see the plunge team working without c6 Gorou, I'm a huge fan of making EVERYONE plunge, and this looks like a blast.
dps xilonen is really fun it feels almost as fun as wrio to play
Yeah, now that I think about it, they basically have the same playstyle. But yeah, wrio is more satisfying because of his charged atk at the end
@@illmentaly if only wrio did more dmg I would love playing him
my wrio hits 60-80k with melt consistently, but he is c1r1 so I’m assuming it makes a difference if c0
@@JigmeSherabWangchukJigmeSherab My Wrio is doing 80-110k in Melt with his highest hits so idk where you think he doesn't do enough damage. Clears everything with ease, the doom posting on Wrio really got to everyone's head. C0R0.
@@asvhlvyyeah his c0 is pretty mid, his c1 is just such a powerspike that it makes him good.
love all your videos so much! i always learn something new haha
17:53 ooh that was just 👌🏻
Yay, was searching for it cause i got C2 with uraku misugiri and i already have Haran on my account as well as festering desire and cinnabar spindle. So i don't have anyone who could be interested in it right now except dps Xilonen
I got her C2 after I pulled Uraku instead of her weapon, and using her as a DPS has definitely been the most fun way to use her so far. However for the future I much prefer her being a support for how much use I'll get out of her.
I think my favorite thing is how much she buffs geo now, bringing Itto up to modern standards, and bringing Navia's plunges to over 160k as well as her skill up to over 600k. Only thing I don't like is her healing going away.
what a fun character. Really a breath of fresh air
I play Xilonen C2, Chiori C2, Kachina and Yelan/healer. This team is very fun. Chiori deals more damage off field than Xilonen fighting. This is nothing to for a abyss speedrun, but good for everything else. Xilonen (support) and Chiori are a very good combination in many teams.
Just got Chiori bc I rly rly enjoy her aesthetics and I've been enjoying Geo characters so she's really decent for me, but only video I found on your channel about her was about how disappointed you were of her kit. Just noticed you do have her though, so I'm hoping someday we could see you try to use her more? Maybe find unconventional useful ways to play and enjoy her, as you usually do with characters. Just wanna see my girl get some love 😔 (also because she is relevant rn with her banner)
I knew she had it in her, ever since I saw her self buff I couldn’t get my mind off making her a dps
I guess there’s nearly no area damage or range with this playstyle? The burst obviously had an area, but the infused normals seem to have less reach than average claymore normal attacks.
When I trialed Xilonen DPS in the trial and story anyway, I was so close to enemies that the enemy’s punching would connect.
Thanks for showcasing and explaining the details.
She's actually pretty insane at C6 as a DPS.
Using her weapon (R1) and the Natlan support relic set (not Obsidian) i'm hitting for 90k-110k per normal. 3200 DEF, 67 CR, 120 CD.
Group is Gorou, Furina, and a non-PECH flex.
If you've got C6 Gorou I'd recommend giving him another shot. He's giving you +438 DEF and +40 CRIT DMG.
Okay I thought I needed Xilonen C6 to make her DPS but I’ll up her attacks from now on 🎉
If you do Kachina, I hope you try the new spear. No ER for her, but It really looks nice for her DPS. (and it's also the one she carries in the quests.)
My gorou is C5 and level 30 and I find him more useful for Xilonen dps output. Instead of his normal Exile build, I put Cinder City set on him with Fav bow and the team feels very strong. Even though plunge is Xilonen strongest team I find AA teams comfy, Yunjin(4pc husk) Gorou - Furina can clear abyss.
I even found using Navia as sub dps for Xilonen can work, Xilonen really is the goat, this is like Furina 2x, so many new teams.
Early and amazing vid as always
You can give xilonen obsidian set and give gorou cinder city + yelan for example. Gorou gives 15 geo bonus + cinder gives 12 geo bonus and hydro bonus. So ur gorou gives 27 geo bonus and u have good build for xilonen. I think that set is straight up BiS for gorou rn. That's the team im using: Xilonen yelan gorou CC zhongli. Actually VERY fun team.
Yeah thats true may try to do that in the future
I used Thoma in NA focus team, had some minor ER problem but it worked pretty good. Also I shoved her with Shimenawa set so her NA dmg was quite alright except that she's single target focus and mustnt have hp lower than 90% for that 3star sword.
U can use Uraku Misugiri for DPS Xilonen i have tested her and she can hit like 88k with her ult. Its nice to see someone using her as a DPS in Abyss, guess i'm not alone anymore........
I switched to DPS build after 1 day, Yunjin and Gorou helps a lot to dash out decent power from her NA
I’d like to see at least a comparison between 🌈 spear vs the shovel spear for kachina. Mostly to see the def bonus vs the er+skill dmg bonus
I have been tryna spread this information on the internet😂 SHE GIVES RES SHRED IN MONO GEO. She just cant charge the bar for other element res shred and the duration is set to half the bar
This is the reason i want her! But sadly cause raidens my favorite character i had to get her weapon so i cant :/
Xilonen and Chiori both at home this patch, geo girls supremacy
Yes, absolutely!!
20:37 oh hell nah
21:36 BRUH IS NOT EVEN USING A 4 PIECE
😭💀😭😭
The Xianyun team, while it does seem good, also seems like it would be pretty annoying to use against any enemy / boss that moves around a lot or groups that tend to get scatter. You just lose so much infusion uptime repositioning. While likely an overall DPS downgrade, I can't help but think it would feel much better to swap Xianyun out for someone like Chiori for sub dps, or maybe a VV unit to buff Furina dmg even further.
Yep that was probably its biggest issue. That can be mitigated by not sprinting around (like Im in the habit of doing) though, but still a problem. I didnt hate being able to move around the arena faster either.
Id love to have swapped Xianyun for Chiori, but then Id have no healer for the team (I considered prototype Amber Ningguang on 4pc Maidens though lol)
Q: What teams does Xilonen work with?
A: Yes.
Wrd
you gain another sub! making anyone dps! 😁
Instant follow personally i been using mona with the healing catalyst cuz of skill issue and i like the big burst numbers from her ult i will try yae cuz i did have the roto issue aswell
Should be Xilonen + Gorou + Yunjin + Furina
Gorou gives Crit that Xilonen lacks, Yunjin makes her NA actually deals dmg, and Furina for dmg bonus and off field dps bcs Xilonen’s field time is short + mid dmg
Soluna: if u need an alternative...
The "alternative" in question: way higher investment and way less optimal
try xilonen, kachina, yunjin, mika
Use kachina's ult if her e-skill is on cooldown (will summon a free spinner).
Yunjin on normals multiplier
mika on team heal + atk spd
Can anyone tell me why the hot cat lady needed SCARA BOSS MATS?? my dream solvents are in shambles now
Clearly there is secret beef we are unawares of between Xilonen/Scaramouche
Last night I got Uraku, the I asking to myself, should I build Xilo DPS? And here I am watching your video. Thanks for show me this video because its hard to find xilo dps content. And, I think I will pulll Xianyun at her rerun 😊😊
You should do DSP Venti when he reruns or show some ways to use him pls
You mention PAmber Nahida and Bennett not being truly enough healing for Furina but in that team Xilonen is also a healer.
Xilonen in her dps mode doesnt heal
I thought I mentioned that it would be fine in conjunction with her also healing there? I know I cut out some yapping about Xilo ER needs here but maybe I made some stupid cuts by accident that cut out what I was actually trying to explain lol
@@apotatowithnorights that was the last team where she was used as a driver.
I got chiori's weapon when pulling for peak patrol song , sooo i guess she is gonna be dps in my account
wait, that last team is also buffing nahida with the artifact set, right? crazy to think about it, you're buffing 4 elements, no? xD
Have you tried that last team but with Staff of Scarlet Sands Rosaria instead of xilonen? Probably my favorite cook from back in the day (Be ready to die a lot though)
for some reason i build mine the SUPORT WAY AND she is still hiting 40 k bursts and 20 to 25 k Autos (WITH SKILL UP) Keep in mind she 3100 deff on a full f2p build with c0 and craftable sword from natlan im still processing that this was without major buffs and on a scuffed set with 57cr and 97cd its not anywere near a top dps but to be used as a suport and still do this much damage is not bad since i was only on a suport build and didnt focus to hard on ofensive stats funny and still as some complementary damage in a team were she can if needed do some amount of damage.
Yeah since she doesnt have many stat requirements you can still build her for a little damage on a support build!
DPS Xilonen looks interesting but, correct me if I'm wrong, due to Mihoyo's brilliant design choice, isn't DPS Xilonen only possible in Natlan region with the Phlogiston resource? Because otherwise her nightsoul state goes away once the bar is full. UNLESS she has c6, of course...
The Abyss footage at 10:58 shows the DPS without the Phlogiston (you can check the DPS Kachina video that is after this one on the channel showing the constellations on the Xilonen used). Just remember Natlan character normal attack and skill damage are boosted by a whopping 80% in the Abyss shown on this video so the numbers are inflated.
Xilonen needs to be on a team with only one Pyro, Electro, Hydro or Cryo team mate to be in this damage mode. If you for example put a Candace (hydro) + Fischl (electro) into the party, Xilonen switches to healer support mode because you exceeded that limit of one crystallizing element character and you only get 2 geo normal attacks.
Ooof i made my own guide going over dps and what is important lol that passive works not how you explain its 1 of any pech elements, not 2 of each but you need 2 of any combination of them to make passive 1 work yes
FYI Bennett does nothing in this team besides applying pyro he offers zero damage boost to xilonen because he adds atk stat not damage directly and she doesn’t benefit of that
What? If I said "each" that was just a slip-up, though I dont recall saying "each," maybe you think an example I gave of a unit combo using same elements was me saying you have to do two of the same element? I dont think I said that, but whatever. I was saying you need 2 pyro/hydro/cryo/electro teammates in a team for her support mode, and can only have 1 or 0 for her DPS mode.
I also think you missed what the point was with Benny. Bennett is kinda necessary for the pyro infusion in order to get Xilo to trigger burgeons. And because we have a Pyro and Hydro unit, she isnt really dealing meaningful def scaling damage, which means she was doing atk scaling normals. There was a couple instances you can see her critting for meaningful pyro dmg (even though I didnt configure her to crit consistently). It was ultimately a silly way to have value on fielding Xilo while getting dmg value from her with building EM and still getting buffs from her
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I have c1 candance and cant wait to try that vape team (just missing arlecchino lol)
Need C6 Candace unfortunately. Did I accidentally not specify that in the video?
Welp as a guy with an r2 uraku might as well go for dps
Soluna can you do a Shatter Albedo when 5.2 roll up?
i feel like its so dumb for her nightsoul points to run out if she dashes in combat
like you dodge an attack wiith her and now you have even less time to do damage with her
why not make it so if youre doing damage and dash you dont lose the extra nightsoul points for that dash
Yeah, it is the most awkward part of DPSing her for sure. I think most players would feel pushed towards ZL because of it (plunge with Kachina felt good too though, crystallize shields plus plunges themselves avoid a lot of dmg, and most of the dps loss was caused by my own mistakes ultimately)
Imagine playing wanderer
Eh, I feel that is dumb that using dash, a thing designed to help you avoid damage in combat, boosts your damage on so many characters.
I farmed all cinder of city scroll for her but then realised on a dps xilonen obsidian codex is better but does cinder of city scroll still good?
Also I use the burst to do damage is that also ok?
I got my first double legendary in Xilonen's banner so I have her c1. ¿Would the reduction in nightsoul consumption let you get away with more plunges or normal attacks?
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I use kuki on dps xilo teams
could you try c2 xilonen and full em raiden on field since she gives cooldown and energy
Yeah I will use her with Hybrid Raiden lol
@@Solunerra waiting 🙌
Cool!
Thanks Sol.
You didnt test Gorou
he did but he said it was underwhelming
I did, but it just was not very compelling. I will test it again when I have Chiori finished, but I think Id need Zhongli to really make a mono geo variant with Gorou work.
Does the potential for dps xilonen open up more at c2?
Yep, C2 is just 50% dmg bonus so a decent buff. C1 does make her NA playstyle meaningfully stronger by allowing more NAs out, but for her plunge playstyle it lets you get 8 plunges easily instead of 7 for C0 Xilo with Xianyun, but I dont think that is the be all end all.
Why couldn't they do that for Chiori?? GRRRRR 5S ATK GEO INFUSION
Does xilonen geo infusion override c6 Bennett?
Yes it does, but we werent doing Geo dmg in the Benny team because she was in her support mode since there were 2 pryo/hydro/cryo/electro units on the team, so after 2 normal attacks she exits Nighsoul and then would start doing pyro infused NAs
No but thanks for asking :D
Understandable, shes an excellent support unit haha!
As someone who uses Kokomi as a Main DPS, DPS Xilonen just felt so right to use. lol
Tried her out with Zhongli, Albedo, and Gorou. Ults on ults on ults~!
*sigh* if i was still playing Genshin I definitely would have pulled this character and gotten her C1, a general support, DPS, and a movement character wrapped in one unit, Yessir
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Xilone was not designed to be a DPS. She can be an average one but then the question comes… Why? Kkk there are some many strong DPSs out there. To me is a bit of waste of time and resources. I have her at C6 R5 and she is much better as a support. But that is just my own personal opinion.
Why would you get her to a c6 if you think she isn’t a dps? Her c6 isn’t that supportive except from the healing which is similar to Furina c6.
Were you just testing or you are getting everyone you like/design to c6 r5?
I also recommend watching engineering plastics video “c0 vs c6 damage” on Xilonen C6 potential.
In this game every character can be a dps, and theres something called having fun with characters you like. In the end everyone has their own playstyle
Yes, I believe I mentioned how its mostly a cool thing you can do, and its nice that they gave her decent potential to do that in her kit is kinda all it is. DPSing her is obviously not how she was designed to shine. So the "why" is because you want to. Because you like the character, you like the animations, so you want to do more with her on field. "Why" is because this is a video game, and it can be fun to people to use characters in different ways, and I think many Genshin players feel the different ways you can use units is a big part of its strength. You dont need every unit in the game to clear content in 30 seconds for them to be fun to play.
As far as "waste of time and resources," the only extra resources I had to spend specifically for DPS Xilo this video were the materials to take her NA talent to level 6. That's barely anything lol. I won't deny that its resource inefficient to DPS characters that are not good DPS units, but if you want to do it to have fun its just a matter of balancing your resources available relative to whatever goal you are trying to achieve. Im not recommending DPS Xilo as the most efficient way to 36 star the abyss.
Im curious why youd bother C6ing her if you didnt want to DPS her?
@@Solunerra good question, I wanted to get her C4 but then for the first time I got two copies of her, didn’t want to have her on C5, then I decided to get her C6 . It was great that you showed her capabilities as a DPS. At least your audience can decide if they want her as a support or DPS.
@@apotatowithnorights I disagree. Not every character was “designed “ to be a DPS. But it is my opinion, you do whatever makes you happy
i think she starts with more points if she’s in dps form right?
I believe its the same amount
@@Solunerra oh
Wanted her signature but got Uraku
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Uraku is pretty great for a generic stat stick weapon, and its probably a better DPS weapon for Xilo!
@@Solunerra haha, it was meant sarcastically. Apparently its 0,2% worse, but still amazing. Can use it on Alhaitham as well etc.
Edit: Besides, I LOVE the design of it!
@@chrismoll3119its better for a dps Xilonen then if you have the her weapon give it to a sword def user in her team.
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Your mora is very low😂
The worst part is Ive already had to spend a bunch of stardust on mora from the shop…