This was a good fair critique with facts well presented. As Christians, we should not be offended by this. The journalist his just doing his job and holding us accountable. That’s also the Lord’s Work.
Steven Furtick received a Bachelor of Arts in communications, he knows what a gimmick is and he knows who to sell a 'product'. Jesus is not a brand, and shouldn't been worn as one. The pride of this man is not representative of what a godly Pastor should modeling for his sheep. He's no Shepard.
@@robbyclark6915 yeah but you’re a “Christian” because you grew up where Christianity is the dominant religion…your family is most likely “Christian” and your children will most likely be “Christian”…had you been born in Tibet you would of been Buddhist and so on…we do not choose to be Christian it is chosen for us.
@@robbyclark6915 did you pick up and read the Quran? Did you pick up and read The Vedas? Most likely you picked up Christian literature because take a wild guess which religion is the most common all around you🤷🏽♂️
@@robbyclark6915 oh to answer your question of how is anything I said relevant at hand….because you said “I’M A GOOD CHRISTIAN” ….my response to that was pointing out why you happen to be “Christian”…that was a relevant response to your “I’M A CHRISTIAN” 🤣🤦🏽♂️
TRUE ! Even the small home town church ad well . I’m a Christian too . Radio stations calling themselves Christian. But always soliciting money from listeners . I say the same thing !
@I luv origami How so? I have listened to Paul Washer here and there and it seems he preaches the Bible to me. At least it seems he does. I’m not trying to be sarcastic. I truly want to know why you feel this way.
It wouldn’t matter, all the faith healers and prosperity ministers have been out and they still rake in big money. People are comfortable and entertained at these churches. They are told what they want to hear not always what they need to hear. Just my opinion
It’s very clarear that Elevation doesn’t follow biblical guidelines. This is not Christianity people. “Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt.” Juvenal
I'm a Christian and I have a background in Psychology and you are absolutely right. Its a cult and they specifically target young people. Furtick comes accross as a Narcissist. He has replaced Christ with himself.
I’m to share this truth, base of my experience I not believe most of those mega church, is become like company, and et the end of the day, there’s a target not about soul, is more about money.. I more give credit for street preachers
That is so cool Justin. Although I would have said it slightly different: _There is a difference in seeing the light and being blinded by the bright lights!_ In other words they are all 'show' (bright lights, singing, dancing, fantastical stories) and very little true Word (light) of God.
I delivered to Elevation Church years ago on Independence Blvd in Matthews. I saw some things inside the church that was a little weird. I immediately said to myself, this is a cult
these mega churches are sickening, i speak from experience, we attended Lakewood Church for 15yrs until thank God we got out of it. Please people dont follow these wolves in sheeps clothing, also, S/F needs to get some clothes that really fit him instead of a couple sizes too small, i guess to look more muscular/fit - whatever, enough with all the rock star stuff, your not one.
WHEN a church is obviously no longer a church, meaning the worship of the Lord and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ is NOT the main priority? When it’s obviously a business only used to make certain people rich? Maybe they shouldn’t be tax exempt anymore.
Yep, that's what Jesus said. He and His deciples paid their share. I know of Christians that were getting paid cash and not reporting it or paying taxes. We had a lady cleaning a church my husband pastored. When she found out she had to pay taxes on what the church paid her, she wasn't to happy. So, my husband try to lovingly tell her the scriptures and that Christians should pay taxes, she got mad and left the church. God wrote the rules, not us. But she still didn't want to pay the taxes. The church was not a 501C3 church. The many churches out there who are 501C3 tax exempt, will one day lose it because of how they are abusing their privilege. At least some are abusing, but will cause all churches to lose it.
Yep; just like what Jesus said of the religious leaders while he was on earth. So IF guys like Furtick do make it into the kingdom; they have nothing to get. i.e. no rewards.
Furtick is friends with Copeland, they both live well off of their gullible followers. However, their judgment will be much harsher than everyone else.
I disagree with this report but it is just an opinion. I challenge all of you to listen to 3 of his sermons. Yes, 3 of them bc his delivery is unique and may not be what you are used to. That said, his content is incredibly saturated with the spirit. What he does with his own money from books people bought bc they wanted it not bc they were forced. Like him or not.. just be fair in your assessment and ill respect whatever conclusion you arrive at. God bless. Btw.. I live in TX and am not a member of Elevation.
A lot of the money he gets from books sales come directly from other mega churches who buy them with tithe money and hand them out as 'free gifts.' Been there, got the 'free' book.
I can’t or won’t judge only God can. I would like for my own ministry to be used by God foremost to point those in need of a savior to Jesus Christ and His soon coming. Secondly, I would like to establish a service to meet their needs from life challenges, based on Biblical principles. And it takes money!! In other words, ministries take money to take care of the flock and in my opinion if the flock isn’t being taken care of, that’s the bigger issue. My prayer for this situation is God’s will be done, who is fair and just to all. Blessings
Yes, Christians can judge. If you don't make judgements on people in the body of Christ that are not Biblical, then you will be deceived. One day we will judge the wicked according to the Bible. There are people doing wicked things in the churches and they should be judged and held accountable. Pastors have no accountability, politians have no accountability, criminals have no accountability, children have no accountability, and we wonder what is happening to our country? The Bible says, Judgement begins in the house of God. The mantra of the lukewarm Christian and church is, I can't judge! Well, what are you going to do on the day you set with Jesus to judge the wicked?
Pastors, remember this one truth; 'We must ALL appear before the judgement seat of Christ!' In that day, you will be without excuse and your situation will be without remedy.'It's sad how much harm Pastors such as Furtick and Young are bringing to the church. However, there's a judgement coming.
Please tell me why its so bad for our pastor to have a nice home when he has given literally 10 x that amount to Charity but yet society worships celebrities that do absolutely nothing but live in homes 3x that amount. The truth for me is so easy to see if you actually look 😢
You should give him more of your money, he probably needs to buy a private jet. You are just like the rest of the degenerate society in regards to celebrity worship, your idol is Furtick.
Because none of that money is his. It all belongs to our Father in heaven. And Yeshua didn't even have a house of His own. How sickening to know that you are a spiritual leader amidst such suffering in a country that boasts the greatest division of wealth in the world and while someone in your congregation, or in some other part of the country is begging God for help with a true need, your spiritual leader is living it up like that. Yikes!
I don’t think pastors should take a vow of poverty but they shouldn’t live above the means of the average congregant. I know There is no way to enforce that
As a Christian I agree with the atheists who say it’s not fair. If all of the people in your church have to pay taxes, shouldn’t the pastors and elders of a church pay taxes? This is accountability and transparency, I can’t stand the church acting as a corporation, it’s not right and it’s not biblical.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of." 2nd Peter 2:1-2
Amen brother! Keep preaching it!! Glad to see you're quoting scripture. Something I forget to do sometimes. :| We need to present the Word to the people. God bless you! Glory to God!
Its about how they Live their life. Their house is a part of their life. Now we are suppose to live like Christ lived! Could you image Jesus living in a house like that On Earth?
The point is this.... why do they do what they do in darkness? Look at what Jesus said about darkness in John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. These "pastors" love darkness... and Jesus' very words indict them.
ALL a bunch of evil hypocrites! So what I am hearing is because he's not suffering and hes gaining money off of the books that he sells he is evil? I don't even know the man but this is so messed up how many people are collaboratively coming together to find something to demonise this man for because he good at what he does. Also, shouldn't be in invasion of privacy that ask for people's account information because you don't think they should have the money that they have? Why be mad that you don't know how much money is going in-and-out of Stephen's pocket or the church? It's not your business! If some stranger off the street ask you to look in your wallet and show him your Cheque book so we could see how your spending your money would you give that stranger your wallet? NO! I would like to see them put the same energy into the top 1% of the world that are systematiclly robbing people for only the purpose of their own personal gain and without giving ANYTHING back. They don't do that though because those people have so much money they could destroy these people and take their jobs without even being seen. Where is that same energy? These religious men that claim to be Christian know good and well that if they had the same support they would not complain. They don't look like their suffering for Christ sitting in their middle class homes toasting to their friends and the other one behind his nice cosy little homemade office. How come they didn't tell us how much their homes cost? How much are their assets while they talking about this other pastor? Being poor in suffering does not mean that your holy! Next thing you know they will be saying Joseph, David and Solomon were evil because they were kings and high ranking officials. The Bible calls them men of God and they had money. Plus people gave them gifts to show graciousness. They were rich; however, they were obviously labelled men of God in The Bible alongside people like the disciples that did not have a whole Kingdom of followers. Also, suffering extends outside of being poor or rich. Read The Bible yourself if you want to compare.🤷🏾♀️ This is shameful prejudiced persecution against men of God that they do not want to be successful. They need to focus on their day job. In the so called religious men need to repent their hypocrisy. This is just sad! P.S. Ask the top 1% how much there getting taxed? This man is not even close to being as riche as them however your mad because his churches aren't being taxed? Lol
The issue is he's making money off a platform that by his very outward belief calls this behavior out. This isn't an oil tycoon openly flaunting their cash. This is a pastor living in luxury off of money he made through his platform his church has given him. A church that allegedly has its roots in the teachings of Jesus who Christians believe is God incarnate. And he was clearly very against using the church as a place to make money, and for his people to elevate themselves above others.
The difference (and its a big one) is that the top one percent of the earners in the world are not running their scam in the name of our Savior and Lord!
I've been a member of a 14,000 member mega church for about 20 years. Everything there is transparent. Senior pastor is hired using a pastor search committee, formed of members. All pastoral staff positions has to be voted on by the membership. All Deacons are voted in by the membership. The annual budget is printed for everyone to see, before it's voted on. Including payroll budget. Our church goes above and beyond to be fully transparent, hiding nothing.
Birds have nests, foxes have dens, but The Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head. I came across Furtick over a decade a go. He was a 26 year old senior pastor of a Mega Church. He was getting criticized back then and he posted a UA-cam video that was so arrogant and immature. . .sadly I can't find it.
Something to think about..... Why is the church is so secretive about its financial situation? Why threaten the volunteers and members with lawsuits if they speak out? Just saying....
And that’s your business how, unless ur God that’s none of your concern leave people to God and focus on the plank in your own eye before that of others. Read your bible
@@Mayhem121 because we are to be held accountable in all things and be ready to give an answer. If they want to keep church business within the church that's fine.... But to threaten lawsuits against those in the church, even Jesus spoke against suing your brother it sister in Christ. It is even written that we should question and show those in need if there is a possibility of a violation of scripture. And all if not most cults depend on secrecy. It just makes me suspicious there is more than what is being made known. And don't worry, God has the final say in all of this....
If they only knew that he gave up his house in order to even start the church originally you don’t see anyone willing to do the same so I feel whether he got the money through church or not he deserves every bit of what God has blessed him. Guys need to mind your business if he is still serving the community and doing what he needs to do I don’t see where the problem is.
If we are biblical the only judge is GOD not us! If being apart of the church blesses you and you choose to exercise the principle of tithing that’s a personal choice and God will recognise and bless that act on a personal basis. The bible doesn’t say Christian’s have to be poor he blessed many people of God with wealth. If any Pastor has bad intentions that’s a matter of the heart, God sees what people don’t, the heart that’s y only God can judge. I personally feel if I speak against a religious leader I will have to answer to God about that, and I rather not put myself in that position. Do Pastors have to answer to us or God? Are Pastors humans too? Don’t they make mistakes and only those without sin themselves should cast the first stone. Abusing your position as a leader comes with more repercussions than us, so if we have faith in God should we not leave it to God and not try to dethrone God by taking his rightful place to judge.
Saying he's gonna go to hell or deserves hell....that's placing judgement. But to place his character and greed and false ways under the light of scripture is biblical. He's a clown feeding goats. Not a Shepherd tending to the flock
@@chrislopez2125 I think u can’t judge people beyond if they are going hell or not. Only God sees the heart, I will never willingly dethrone God by taking his position. If u feel comfortable speaking bad about other people even though we are supposed to love our neighbour then I don’t know where the Holy Ghost is in people who don’t have a heart and say and do unkind things to others especially when they are working for God. I rather focus on me cus I’m trying to save my soul rather than waste time and energy focus on others, I like to mind my own business and not get involved in other peoples lives especially when I don’t even know the person let alone their heart or their intentions. Christians who behave like this is disturbing and disgusting. I hope people desire to clean their heart
@@Mayhem121 this is why you have to study to show yourself approved unto God. The apostle Paul said we must endure sound doctrine ,contend for the faith and that if anyone preached another gospel than they are accursed. We can't just go off our emotions and say to just love while ignoring the fact that dangerous ungodly teachings are being broadcast from pulpits like steven furticks. Yes we must show grace and love but the truth of God's word must prevail.
@@chrislopez2125 so mind ur own business and do that, stop watching the spec in your brothers eye whilst ignoring the massive plank in your own. Study ur bible all of it!
you know what no one forces anyone to buy these books I recently purchased one and its been a great inspiration and tremendous blessing And I put Jesus first and foremost not Furtick
This was posted 8 years ago. In the intervening time Elevation Church has continued to grow at a remarkable rate. They give away 12% of their tithes and offerings. They have small groups (or more) in every state and 120 or so countries. I could go on and on, mentioning the hundreds of baptisms performed annually and much more. Pastor Furtick has written several books along with hundreds of songs. He has an idependent income that he has no need to apologize for and can do what he wants to with. The Bible says it's by the fruit that we know people. Obviously there is much much good fruit here.
Talk about taking a verse way out of context, the fact that you refer to fruits as money and worldy success show how completely blinded you are and alot of Christains due to churches that run this type of scheme. This is the problem with churches like this that decevie people into thinking that fruits are how associated with money by using God as some sort of personal bank. The fruit this verse refers to is the fruits of the spirit (God's Character). I pray that you will read your bible more, as the truth will set you free. Matthew 7:15-20 New International Version True and False Prophets 15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them@@1955dmb
Does he preach Jesus Christ Crucified and Resurrected? Does he preach The Cross? Does he preach the strait path and narrow gate? Does he preach The Blood? Does he preach God the same yesterday today and tomorrow? Beware of preaching the contains new age ways to salvation, because salvation only comes one way it has never changed and never will. 1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Hi Sam, you know all the people in the upper room on the day of Pentecost were all Jewish. The Jewish apostles were slow to take the message of Jesus to the gentiles. The gentiles were slow to receive it because they didn't want to be circumcised, the men didn't want that, and so Judaism became what you understand as your religion today. Peace Friend.
I think people need to be more concerned with their own house of cards instead of someone else's, in this case Pastor Furtick's. I will guarantee everyone has shaky foundational cards in their personal and family lives but because everyone is so enthralled in trying to correct someone else's house of cards because of jealousy their own house of cards fall on them. Ever stop to think to kick out that sin of jealousy and just maybe God might open up that door of blessing on your life, something is always blocking that door but everyone gets mad and jealous at somebody else when that person turns things over to the Lord and then the Lord turns beauty from ashes. Don't you all know that the Lord wants the same in your life too? Just a thought not a sermon.
No one jealous of Steven. No pastor or supposed man of God needs or deserves a 16 million dollar home, it’s excessive and greedy, especially when there are homeless and needy people dying every day due to food insecurity. Don’t you remember someone writing letters to a few different churches warning them to test teachings? What makes you think Steven is above reproach? Furthermore, if a man is preaching and leading people, he deserves to be investigated and scrutinized, if there is nothing to hide there should be no issue with it. Elevation is nothing but an emotionally driven cult made to worship mamon and elevate Steven’s vision rather than God’s. The church is spiritually dead and completely ineffective in the world because God’s people continue to allow wolves and sheep’s clothing to infiltrate the church and keep them in a state of complacency. There is no real worship, prayer or deliverance occurring and people are being lead to hell daily because of superficial ministries like this. May God help and have mercy on anyone who follows this man.
It is not about jealousy. It's about who you allow to lead you spiritually. If a spiritual leader is obsessed with homes, vacations, watches, expensive clothing, selling books and music, speaking for a fee, etc., ......................................seems shady to me. And yes, you are right, we all need to be working out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Part of that is choosing good people to lead us.
So we're the judges now. Things aren't always as they seen. If you really did some research, most often the home is given to the Pastor, but when a Pastor wants to buy his own house, there's an issue and he's judged before knowing the facts. It sounds familiar, doesn't it!
Galatians 1:6-9King James Version (KJV) 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Last time I checked Jesus told us to ( go into all the world and preach the gospel) He didn’t say you’re limited to what man deemed responsible. Jesus said he would bless us (Beyond more than you can ask or imagine) Jesus Christ is limitless So I would ask of all these finger pointers WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR JESUS LATELY. HOW MANY SOULS HAVE YOU WON FOR THE KINGDOM???
U don’t have any rights your money first belongs to God, tithing is based on a biblical principle only not for your to then monitor what happens to the money, tithing isn’t about the money it’s about obedience to the word of God. The other details are not your concern
if Steven preched on how wicked and sinful we are and are deserving of hell. Also preaching the truth about sexual immorality then this church wouldn't be so popular. Never in the history of the church of Christ has sexual immorality and homosexuality been accepted the way it is by christians and the church. wherever you see a great amount of people gathered that way in this generation than there's something to draw them besides the truth of Gods word. it's more entertainment
The problem I have with him, is he is not teaching from the Bible and often twists the Bible. I do not care how much money he has. I care he is leading people astray.
@@luischirinos3131 That is your opinion , why don't you you tell him what it is about ! I am not his judge , just an observer and i know whom i serve .
William Cook, you speak against someone you've never heard speak? I could go run with that, all kinds of different places, I could get into my testimony, how I've left my miserable past behind me, how Elevation church has been an integral part of my reconnecting again with the world, about how I have agoraphobia but for the last 3 weeks in a row I have ventured out on Sunday morning to attend church - this church. I could do all that but you won't hear any of it because you've already made up your closed mind. He's calling a VERY LOST, WARPED generation to a life of morality, service, and get-your-act-together behavior. Yeah, what an awful guy. If he can pull that off, with God's help, I say he's worth every penny and more. The world around us, our own country, is going down the toilet, he's trying to make a difference, and all the naysayers can pull from it is....MONEY ISSUES. Figures. Well, news flash, he won't ever stop. He will fight. I wont ever stop. I will fight. People I've never even met yet at Elevation bc of my condition, but I know they wont stop. They will fight. So carry on, sir, carry on. Because that's what you're doing - carrying on. One more thing, all us kool aid drinking sheep know he's pulling in some cash. We still give. Because we believe in his mission to fulfill God's mission. I encourage you to attend one service and then REPLY. If you can't at least do that before coming back at me, then don't bother because you can make no point if you only see and hear one side of a story from an "investigative reporter" looking for his next story, a breaking story, that just might save his years-long career or maybe get him some gig attention himself.
Matthew 16:26 KJV For what is a man profited, it he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
1.7 million isn't that much on a custom house with land. People should read the Bible. Some very rich men are in there. Abraham, David, Solomon...etc. God has no problem with money, just those who love it.
This was a non story! NBC is an embarrassment! They say his home cost millions and then admit they were lying to make it sound worse. $1.7 Million is not millions. In fact, it is not even that much of a home for a guy that has accomplished as much and contributed as much to people and charities as Steven has. It is too bad they could not find any one that people actually know and respect to join in on their hit piece. NBC is the worst of the worst. People who have any sense at all would never slow down their giving based on the garbage mentioned in this story!
How do we even know the true cost? If they won’t disclose anything financial and are afraid of transparency then I doubt a 16,000 home can be built for less than 2 mil
How is it that the atheist is more honorable and ethical than the pastor? Greedy men of corrupt minds supposing the gospel is a means of gain, the Bible says.
ROBBY THERE YOU ARE! I notice you crept away and deleted your “inspired words” after you realized that it is true…you are this “Good Christian” because it was the most readily available religion to you…it was the nearest and easiest to access..most everyone you associate with is “Christian” and it was the easiest thing for you to adapt into….your religion was chosen for you🤣
@@alexquintana1031 Wow, do much stalking lately? My inspired words are just as true they ever were regardless of what happened to them wouldn’t you say? I mean they have you stalking me across the internet for reasons only someone like yourself could possibly understand? That’s some real creeper type behavior right there! I “deleted my comments for one reason only……..TO GET AWAY FROM YOU (Because I thought, this guy’s out there and he will never shut up) and now look who’s tracked me down so they could continue their point. Maybe a therapist would be a better fit for you rather than stalking me around YT land trying to “make your point”. Bizarre behavior to say the least. You have definitely confirmed all my suspicions about you. Which is why I chose to stop my interactions with you. A very clear case of “It’s not me…. It’s you!”
@@alexquintana1031 Just look at your reply to me. Very strange. “THERE YOU ARE” in all caps, displaying a very real and misplaced excitement over finding me again to continue your endless chatter. Then you actually believe I deleted my comments…..why….because of something you said? Seriously? What, you made me see the proverbial light here, or you so overwhelmed me with truth that I had to rethink my life or something? 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤣. I literally laughed out loud when I read that. Delusional, grandiose and narcissistic tendencies on full display. That’s WHY I deleted my previous comments. To avoid an endless, tiring, boring, back and forth with a delusional narcissist willing to “stalk” people just to continue making their point. See I made my points, then deleted them because I’m not interested in THIS……..this, is nonsense and a colossal waste of my time and energy and frankly it’s a bunch of bullshit. If you must “debate” people, join a club, if you need to tell someone you’re inner thoughts, get a therapist, if you’re just a mental case who can’t shut up because he’s full of self importance then again, get therapy. Either way or anyway do whatever, but do me this solid and go stalk someone who cares.
Because if you are a believer, you have Holy Spirit discernment so that you can choose wisely - who you allow to lead you spiritually. This is very important! A spiritual leader who uses techniques to get rich is not someone I trust.
23:00 Church doesn't have to tell you anything. God already knows everything. If he's in the wrong, God will deal with him. Also, God gave him the ability to create wealth. (Deuteronomy 8:18)
The Word of Faith, the Emergent church, the Elevation church, Hillsong or whatever they call themselves nowadays....if their so-called pastors, evangelists, preachers or whatever they are called, were to preach on salvation, repentance, hell, wickedness, sin, then I can assure you they won't have big mega-churches like this. But they choose to preach ear-tickling sermons, won't call sin by it's name, won't preach against homosexual abomination, won't preach on hell, damnation and wickedness because they will offend and lose members and thereby the money flow will become a trickle. These churches are no longer what God intended them to be...a place to save souls, but rather it has become businesses where Jesus is no longer Lord of all. It is all about the celebrity-pastors and how much mammon they can earn.
Not true. I served in a family churches for 24 years. That is a lie that is told to make being small feel better. I now serve at a "mega church" where my pastor gives millions, but he speaks the truth dead on with no hesitation and is attacked for it by the media. The media is trying to discredit the church, good or bad. They know if they can raise questions, that is enough to discredit in this world. There are doctors here in New Mexico with 2 million dollar houses. I dont get it. Most pastors I know have people staying over. traveling through and often meetings etc. YEs there are celebrity pastors, but all large churches are not created equal. We cant say that they are not speaking truth. My mega church pastor provides more teaching and word then I ever got from the sensationalists at the smaller churches that hated on big churches.
halizcomet Yep, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. They're successful for being honest, and for helping people. They're doing the best job and the truth is seen in the success. I used to help in smaller churches, but I would attend mega churches from time to time. They all got along. I live in Riverside, we have a famous cross on Mt. Rubidoux. For years it was on public property! 107 years!!
We need to pray for the souls in those churches who are being led astray. We need to pray for a falling away from the false churches and a gathering unto the true church of the Lord. Furtick is a demon. He is no servant of the Lord.
HE is not my pastor, but HE is not a demon. Perhaps he may have one, I cant say. I mentioned my pastor in another post. I only refuted the comment of tax payers... Whoever is full of demons. ought to have servants of God, so full of His Spirit and love, that they are busy casting out demons, not dialoguing about them. Love is the principle thing here.
Who soul as been saved, this is The prosperity gospel on steroids if you were in Elevation Church run do not walk out of the church run for your life because he’s gonna take you to Hell
How about we see what Jesus says: 38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”(B) 39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us.(C) 41 Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.(D)
I get your point against a hostile attitude. But just in case any reads this and does care to be saved; Matt 7 21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Furtick preachers false doctrine. He calls himself God. I heard him say, "I am God". He's misled and misleading others. Anyone that has to live in a mansion on ministry money, is all about money. He's just like the prosperity teachers. TD Jake's, his mentor, Joyce Myer, and others. I'm not trying to find fault, but this is not Biblical.
I like how he preaches, I mean don't get me wrong, he is making a ton of money but if he helps people then really what does it hurt, he's the only one who knows if he is doing the correct things with his money. He is the only one who will have to answer to God oneday 💔 I pray he is doing right ❤
@firstbornjordan I didn't realize he was questioning theology, everything I have heard him preach so far seems to go along with the bible. Am I missing something? Let me know because I am confused at what your saying 🤔
I don't know about Stephen Ferdic but Housing allowance is not tax free--he still must pay taxes but not as much but it will be alot for $250,000. So this news station got it wrong or is not honest.
They all have the prosperity gospel built in to their sermons. They worship mammon not God. It is sad because if they truly served the Lord they could actually be saving so many souls with their fame and position. I guess it is Satan who put them where they are, which is on TV and UA-cam, and given them fame and fortune (at the expense of believers).
Absolutely correct. If they were to preach the truth about the gospel\good news, which is Jesus Christ and Him Crucified I wonder how many will leave the church then.
@@adammadeofwood9393 yes meaning thousands and thousands have unfortunately been brainwashed by him. It’s a cult! Anyone with a clear mind can see that
Youse are all wrong for trying to tear down this man of God he's a great pastor. Smh why do you push on a man who gave his life to God??? What are you getting out of coming after God's men
1 Timothy 5:18 Amplified Bible 18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain [to keep it from eating],” and, “The worker is worthy of his wages [he deserves fair compensation].” Enjoy your well deserved crib(house)Pastor sreven and Holly....God loves you and so do i.....PETERCHILDGOD
Secularists only get mad when pastors buy big houses, but anyone else its okay? God never said don't be rich, in fact the story of Job shows God's way of blessing someone can be with earlthy riches. We were made to thrive
this is so stupid, if rappers who make money off of treating women like animals, talking about violence and gang banging can buy million dollar homes, id prefer the man who has brought a church like elevation to the public and who donates millions of dollars a year to have an even bigger home than what he already has.
***** First of all, yes, rappers are lying. They glorify living in poverty and brag about killing people when most of them have never done it. Second of all, it was a rhetorical question aimed at the idiocy of +Jamie Padgett 's comment. Third, you are correct. Furtick is a liar.
Jamie Padgett That's a lie. He makes some money through book sales but not enough to pay for a house like that. He has an outrageous salary and most of it is tax-free because of the parsonage. Didn't you watch the video? Of course you didn't. You watched 3 seconds of it and made a comment because you didn't want to hear anything you don't want to hear. Just like the Bible that you claim is your authority. You cherry-pick the parts you like and ignore the rest. Your pastor is a lying scumbag. But you don't care. As long as you get your Sunday morning rock concert and entertainment, you're happy.
I'm sorry. Y'all went through all this trouble to find a pastor to tell you pastors and true christians are suppose to be poor and live struggling? I'm sure he's convinced his congregation to live beneath God's best for them. I don't think pastors should get more than fair wages from their work. But if he's making money off a book he wrote or other gifts God gave him, whats it to you? Everybody from presidents to MDs and teachers make money selling books they wrote.
THEY GAVE 1O MILLION to the community...what is the tax payer getting? You get a bunch of homeless and hungry people fed, you get a bunch of people who would participate in crime, rob you for food, able to go to the place that received money. No one said that you or I would directly benefit.
huh? All glory goes to God at our church. My pastor is persecuted for standing for truth, persecuted by the secular media and unbelievers. Now by "Christians" too? How interesting that you would say that. Isn't that a heavy handed does of premature judgement. He is actually careful to direct it all to Gods doing. I wish every one on here with this attitude would recognize how unloving and how antiChrist like it is to be the accuser of the brethren. We are setting up our own persecution. This type of finger pointing is why the world wants nothing to do with Jesus. We will answer for every word we have spoken. Very sad state we are in brother, when we are so busy falsely accusing the Body of Christ, while every other wicked organization and group is binding together like glue. I have no time for the work of satan...division.
Prayer is always the remedy and approach that true, maturing Christians use for fallen brothers. Judge not, lest you be judged. For my dear brother, you will be according to the measure of grace you give or withhold. Yes, even our internet posts are recorded by our Lord, the Almighty. IF this man fell away from humility, pray for him. Israel at times fell away from humility. Remember, God did not cast them off for good. Why are we quick to?
How much do you give to the poor? Im not disagreeing except for the motive of the complainers who are the work able takers in our society, yet police everyone else.
King David, King Solomon, and Joseph. These are just a few examples of men in The Bible that were rich, even though maybe not at 1st. So they were all cult leaders too? Why not consider celebrities and politician cult leaders also? They also have die hard followers as well and their rich. Each one of them also claims to be looking out for the best interest of their peers. Why not keep the same energy? How come there not all cult leaders? Some of Steven's followers may be crazy but he didn't ask them for their undying loyalty to him. Blaming a man for other people wanting to bless him or look up to him is silly and quite jealous. The man never claimed to be perfect and he never asked for people to follow him. Nor did he ever say if you don't follow me your not going to heaven or something crazy like that period lol you don't have to trick some people in the following because people naturally follow and look for something to worship. No people should not worship this man but he hasn't asked them to either. Infact in many occasion's he is told them not to focus on him. Yall can be mad at what another man has all you want but that's not gonna put money in your bank account or make people want to follow you. Straight up.
Yet no one has a problem with the sinner's profitting and building multi million dollar homes. Pastor Steven has worked hard in his life not only worked but worked to glorify God. As Christians we are to love that is all. So do not recite the word without obeying the whole word. Those who condemn are the ones who have fooled themselves. Those who are not Christian, we pray for and love them to Christ. If we spent more time focused on the will of God, we wouldnt have time to focus on condemning the world. Choose your mountains wisely friends.
And what about Christian singers and songwriters. ..should they be exempt too. Bc I feel like my worship music does more sometimes than preaching... It's all their own business not ours
This was a good fair critique with facts well presented. As Christians, we should not be offended by this. The journalist his just doing his job and holding us accountable. That’s also the Lord’s Work.
There are many true Christians that follow the word of God and that word is not the same as Stevens. Remember that.
Not offended at all and way more sad about how they live on the money
It's not christ like
Steven Furtick received a Bachelor of Arts in communications, he knows what a gimmick is and he knows who to sell a 'product'. Jesus is not a brand, and shouldn't been worn as one.
The pride of this man is not representative of what a godly Pastor should modeling for his sheep. He's no Shepard.
It's very interesting. Justin Peters sent me here.
You being judgmental is a being a godly person. See you are no different than the world is.
Furtick is Elevating his bank account.
I'm so tired of these wolves. Chasing the luxuries of this life, pretending they are being blessed by God.
His ego is overshadowing all of his “work”
These mega churches should be required to pay taxes just like any other business. Because that’s exactly what it is…a business!
@@robbyclark6915 yeah but you’re a “Christian” because you grew up where Christianity is the dominant religion…your family is most likely “Christian” and your children will most likely be “Christian”…had you been born in Tibet you would of been Buddhist and so on…we do not choose to be Christian it is chosen for us.
@@robbyclark6915 did you pick up and read the Quran? Did you pick up and read The Vedas? Most likely you picked up Christian literature because take a wild guess which religion is the most common all around you🤷🏽♂️
@@robbyclark6915 oh to answer your question of how is anything I said relevant at hand….because you said “I’M A GOOD CHRISTIAN” ….my response to that was pointing out why you happen to be “Christian”…that was a relevant response to your “I’M A CHRISTIAN” 🤣🤦🏽♂️
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TRUE ! Even the small home town church ad well . I’m a Christian too . Radio stations calling themselves Christian. But always soliciting money from listeners . I say the same thing !
I suggest listening to Paul washer, Voddie Bauchem and David Wilkerson. All true men of God who preach the Bible
amen. they call out Hersey. and offend a lot of seeker sensitive followers.
@I luv origami How so? I have listened to Paul Washer here and there and it seems he preaches the Bible to me. At least it seems he does. I’m not trying to be sarcastic. I truly want to know why you feel this way.
@I luv origami no they preach the gospel which is absent from most churches in the US today
@I luv origami and, then, whom would you suggest to listen?
Voddie Bauchman??? A guy who thinks that shyness in a child is a sin and needs to be beat out of that child??? No thank you.
There should always be financial accountibility in churches. People that support the church with finances should be aware of where all funds are used.
It wouldn’t matter, all the faith healers and prosperity ministers have been out and they still rake in big money. People are comfortable and entertained at these churches. They are told what they want to hear not always what they need to hear. Just my opinion
Jesus was right! The world surely loves it's own...
Amen!
You've said it best in the least amount of words . (hands over trophy 😊) . On that note I'll stop responding to this thread.
When these evangelists refuse to discuss their earnings their followers should "fl ee to the hills!"
This church has grown immensely since this investigation. I think half my town belongs to the church. I would love for WCNC to do a follow up.
Furtick discovered that religion pays better than rock 'n' roll, plus has more tax breaks.
Yeah unfortunately he is very lost.
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It’s very clarear that Elevation doesn’t follow biblical guidelines. This is not Christianity people.
“Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt.” Juvenal
How do they not follow Biblical guidelines? Can't wait to hear your reply.
I use some of elevations material in my cult awareness training... as examples of how people get coerced and manipulated.
I'm a Christian and I have a background in Psychology and you are absolutely right. Its a cult and they specifically target young people. Furtick comes accross as a Narcissist. He has replaced Christ with himself.
I’m to share this truth, base of my experience I not believe most of those mega church, is become like company, and et the end of the day, there’s a target not about soul, is more about money.. I more give credit for street preachers
He is pretty slick though...If you listen closely, Furtick never really says anything does he?
Why do you consider them a cult?
What part of their material do you use for cult awareness? Im calling BS on this.
The man works hard and earns every dime. His sermons are a blessing to many.
He's a false teacher and unsaved. Open your eyes up.
This is greed and he will answer to God for this
There is a difference in seeing the light and being blinded by the light!
That is so cool Justin. Although I would have said it slightly different:
_There is a difference in seeing the light and being blinded by the bright lights!_
In other words they are all 'show' (bright lights, singing, dancing, fantastical stories) and very little true Word (light) of God.
I delivered to Elevation Church years ago on Independence Blvd in Matthews. I saw some things inside the church that was a little weird. I immediately said to myself, this is a cult
What did you see by doing deliveries that made you think it could be a cult?
these mega churches are sickening, i speak from experience, we attended Lakewood Church for 15yrs until thank God we got out of it. Please people dont follow these wolves in sheeps clothing, also, S/F needs to get some clothes that really fit him instead of a couple sizes too small, i guess to look more muscular/fit - whatever, enough with all the rock star stuff, your not one.
WHEN a church is obviously no longer a church, meaning the worship of the Lord and preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ is NOT the main priority? When it’s obviously a business only used to make certain people rich? Maybe they shouldn’t be tax exempt anymore.
Mark 12:17 Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s (aka taxes) and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.
Yep, that's what Jesus said. He and His deciples paid their share. I know of Christians that were getting paid cash and not reporting it or paying taxes. We had a lady cleaning a church my husband pastored. When she found out she had to pay taxes on what the church paid her, she wasn't to happy. So, my husband try to lovingly tell her the scriptures and that Christians should pay taxes, she got mad and left the church. God wrote the rules, not us. But she still didn't want to pay the taxes. The church was not a 501C3 church. The many churches out there who are 501C3 tax exempt, will one day lose it because of how they are abusing their privilege. At least some are abusing, but will cause all churches to lose it.
His house was built on Earth, he has his reward. Hes as safe as Kenneth.
Yep; just like what Jesus said of the religious leaders while he was on earth. So IF guys like Furtick do make it into the kingdom; they have nothing to get. i.e. no rewards.
Furtick is friends with Copeland, they both live well off of their gullible followers. However, their judgment will be much harsher than everyone else.
I disagree with this report but it is just an opinion. I challenge all of you to listen to 3 of his sermons. Yes, 3 of them bc his delivery is unique and may not be what you are used to. That said, his content is incredibly saturated with the spirit. What he does with his own money from books people bought bc they wanted it not bc they were forced.
Like him or not.. just be fair in your assessment and ill respect whatever conclusion you arrive at. God bless.
Btw.. I live in TX and am not a member of Elevation.
We don’t want to listen to his cult teachings. Anyone who follows this man has been brainwashed
I couldn't get 2 minutes in. Bad feelin!!!
A lot of the money he gets from books sales come directly from other mega churches who buy them with tithe money and hand them out as 'free gifts.' Been there, got the 'free' book.
ill pass I prefer a pastor who teaches the bible not narcigesis if you add to the bible you aren't filled with the Holy Spirit.
Why would I listen to Steven Furtick when I know he is a false teacher? Ppl have been deceived.
I can’t or won’t judge only God can. I would like for my own ministry to be used by God foremost to point those in need of a savior to Jesus Christ and His soon coming. Secondly, I would like to establish a service to meet their needs from life challenges, based on Biblical principles. And it takes money!! In other words, ministries take money to take care of the flock and in my opinion if the flock isn’t being taken care of, that’s the bigger issue. My prayer for this situation is God’s will be done, who is fair and just to all. Blessings
Yea it takes MONEY to buy Gucci and a 7 bathroom multi acre mansion. And his stevens “flock” has itching ears. Drinking milk and not meat.
Yes, Christians can judge. If you don't make judgements on people in the body of Christ that are not Biblical, then you will be deceived. One day we will judge the wicked according to the Bible. There are people doing wicked things in the churches and they should be judged and held accountable. Pastors have no accountability, politians have no accountability, criminals have no accountability, children have no accountability, and we wonder what is happening to our country? The Bible says, Judgement begins in the house of God. The mantra of the lukewarm Christian and church is, I can't judge! Well, what are you going to do on the day you set with Jesus to judge the wicked?
@@jjgems5909He doesn't preach the gospel.
Pastors, remember this one truth; 'We must ALL appear before the judgement seat of Christ!' In that day, you will be without excuse and your situation will be without remedy.'It's sad how much harm Pastors such as Furtick and Young are bringing to the church. However, there's a judgement coming.
Amen its sickening but the bible speaks on these things...
Please tell me why its so bad for our pastor to have a nice home when he has given literally 10 x that amount to Charity but yet society worships celebrities that do absolutely nothing but live in homes 3x that amount. The truth for me is so easy to see if you actually look 😢
He is one of those celebrities.
You should give him more of your money, he probably needs to buy a private jet. You are just like the rest of the degenerate society in regards to celebrity worship, your idol is Furtick.
Also other rich celebrities are not using people’s desire to find belonging and a relationship with God to get rich. Steven is.
He hasn’t given, the church has.
Because none of that money is his. It all belongs to our Father in heaven. And Yeshua didn't even have a house of His own. How sickening to know that you are a spiritual leader amidst such suffering in a country that boasts the greatest division of wealth in the world and while someone in your congregation, or in some other part of the country is begging God for help with a true need, your spiritual leader is living it up like that. Yikes!
I don’t think pastors should take a vow of poverty but they shouldn’t live above the means of the average congregant. I know There is no way to enforce that
Why should a great pastor make the same as an average pastor? Should a great plumber of electrician make the same as an average one?
Oh wow. Thats right. That IS money changing. One of the one and only times Jesus actually showed holy anger. Sad...
As a Christian I agree with the atheists who say it’s not fair. If all of the people in your church have to pay taxes, shouldn’t the pastors and elders of a church pay taxes? This is accountability and transparency, I can’t stand the church acting as a corporation, it’s not right and it’s not biblical.
Pastors and elders pay taxes - churches do not.
My church is small and we are just barely able to keep the doors open now. Property taxes or taxes on our offerings would put us under.
Had to go halfway across the country to find a radio host that has issues with furtick. Interesting.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of."
2nd Peter 2:1-2
Amen brother! Keep preaching it!!
Glad to see you're quoting scripture. Something I forget to do sometimes. :|
We need to present the Word to the people.
God bless you! Glory to God!
It's not about how much money he has its about what he's preaching
Which is also largely wrong man centered and out of context my friend
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Its about how they Live their life. Their house is a part of their life. Now we are suppose to live like Christ lived! Could you image Jesus living in a house like that On Earth?
They worship the pastor, not god.
Nope, I'm an atheist... and 100% better now that I don't have a belief in a creator
The point is this.... why do they do what they do in darkness? Look at what Jesus said about darkness in John 3:19
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
These "pastors" love darkness... and Jesus' very words indict them.
ALL a bunch of evil hypocrites!
So what I am hearing is because he's not suffering and hes gaining money off of the books that he sells he is evil?
I don't even know the man but this is so messed up how many people are collaboratively coming together to find something to demonise this man for because he good at what he does.
Also, shouldn't be in invasion of privacy that ask for people's account information because you don't think they should have the money that they have? Why be mad that you don't know how much money is going in-and-out of Stephen's pocket or the church? It's not your business! If some stranger off the street ask you to look in your wallet and show him your Cheque book so we could see how your spending your money would you give that stranger your wallet? NO!
I would like to see them put the same energy into the top 1% of the world that are systematiclly robbing people for only the purpose of their own personal gain and without giving ANYTHING back. They don't do that though because those people have so much money they could destroy these people and take their jobs without even being seen.
Where is that same energy?
These religious men that claim to be Christian know good and well that if they had the same support they would not complain. They don't look like their suffering for Christ sitting in their middle class homes toasting to their friends and the other one behind his nice cosy little homemade office. How come they didn't tell us how much their homes cost? How much are their assets while they talking about this other pastor? Being poor in suffering does not mean that your holy! Next thing you know they will be saying Joseph, David and Solomon were evil because they were kings and high ranking officials. The Bible calls them men of God and they had money. Plus people gave them gifts to show graciousness. They were rich; however, they were obviously labelled men of God in The Bible alongside people like the disciples that did not have a whole Kingdom of followers. Also, suffering extends outside of being poor or rich. Read The Bible yourself if you want to compare.🤷🏾♀️
This is shameful prejudiced persecution against men of God that they do not want to be successful. They need to focus on their day job. In the so called religious men need to repent their hypocrisy. This is just sad!
P.S. Ask the top 1% how much there getting taxed? This man is not even close to being as riche as them however your mad because his churches aren't being taxed? Lol
The issue is he's making money off a platform that by his very outward belief calls this behavior out. This isn't an oil tycoon openly flaunting their cash. This is a pastor living in luxury off of money he made through his platform his church has given him. A church that allegedly has its roots in the teachings of Jesus who Christians believe is God incarnate. And he was clearly very against using the church as a place to make money, and for his people to elevate themselves above others.
The difference (and its a big one) is that the top one percent of the earners in the world are not running their scam in the name of our Savior and Lord!
I've been a member of a 14,000 member mega church for about 20 years. Everything there is transparent. Senior pastor is hired using a pastor search committee, formed of members. All pastoral staff positions has to be voted on by the membership. All Deacons are voted in by the membership. The annual budget is printed for everyone to see, before it's voted on. Including payroll budget. Our church goes above and beyond to be fully transparent, hiding nothing.
How about the donations?
@@Bhauer2011 what is your question?
But do they teach the Bible or is it some watered-down seeker sensitive stuff?
Birds have nests, foxes have dens, but The Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.
I came across Furtick over a decade a go. He was a 26 year old senior pastor of a Mega Church.
He was getting criticized back then and he posted a UA-cam video that was so arrogant and immature. . .sadly I can't find it.
I saw it. It was awful!
Something to think about..... Why is the church is so secretive about its financial situation? Why threaten the volunteers and members with lawsuits if they speak out? Just saying....
And that’s your business how, unless ur God that’s none of your concern leave people to God and focus on the plank in your own eye before that of others. Read your bible
@@Mayhem121 because we are to be held accountable in all things and be ready to give an answer. If they want to keep church business within the church that's fine.... But to threaten lawsuits against those in the church, even Jesus spoke against suing your brother it sister in Christ. It is even written that we should question and show those in need if there is a possibility of a violation of scripture. And all if not most cults depend on secrecy. It just makes me suspicious there is more than what is being made known. And don't worry, God has the final say in all of this....
@@chuckhyland893 Well said!
If they only knew that he gave up his house in order to even start the church originally you don’t see anyone willing to do the same so I feel whether he got the money through church or not he deserves every bit of what God has blessed him. Guys need to mind your business if he is still serving the community and doing what he needs to do I don’t see where the problem is.
If we are biblical the only judge is GOD not us! If being apart of the church blesses you and you choose to exercise the principle of tithing that’s a personal choice and God will recognise and bless that act on a personal basis. The bible doesn’t say Christian’s have to be poor he blessed many people of God with wealth. If any Pastor has bad intentions that’s a matter of the heart, God sees what people don’t, the heart that’s y only God can judge. I personally feel if I speak against a religious leader I will have to answer to God about that, and I rather not put myself in that position. Do Pastors have to answer to us or God? Are Pastors humans too? Don’t they make mistakes and only those without sin themselves should cast the first stone. Abusing your position as a leader comes with more repercussions than us, so if we have faith in God should we not leave it to God and not try to dethrone God by taking his rightful place to judge.
Saying he's gonna go to hell or deserves hell....that's placing judgement. But to place his character and greed and false ways under the light of scripture is biblical. He's a clown feeding goats. Not a Shepherd tending to the flock
@@chrislopez2125 I think u can’t judge people beyond if they are going hell or not. Only God sees the heart, I will never willingly dethrone God by taking his position. If u feel comfortable speaking bad about other people even though we are supposed to love our neighbour then I don’t know where the Holy Ghost is in people who don’t have a heart and say and do unkind things to others especially when they are working for God. I rather focus on me cus I’m trying to save my soul rather than waste time and energy focus on others, I like to mind my own business and not get involved in other peoples lives especially when I don’t even know the person let alone their heart or their intentions. Christians who behave like this is disturbing and disgusting. I hope people desire to clean their heart
@@Mayhem121 this is why you have to study to show yourself approved unto God. The apostle Paul said we must endure sound doctrine ,contend for the faith and that if anyone preached another gospel than they are accursed. We can't just go off our emotions and say to just love while ignoring the fact that dangerous ungodly teachings are being broadcast from pulpits like steven furticks. Yes we must show grace and love but the truth of God's word must prevail.
@@chrislopez2125 so mind ur own business and do that, stop watching the spec in your brothers eye whilst ignoring the massive plank in your own. Study ur bible all of it!
He is a heretic that is leading people astray. I have one in my family.
you know what no one forces anyone to buy these books I recently purchased one and its been a great inspiration and tremendous blessing And I put Jesus first and foremost not Furtick
***** It makes you wonder how he read the book without understanding grammar.
This was posted 8 years ago. In the intervening time Elevation Church has continued to grow at a remarkable rate. They give away 12% of their tithes and offerings. They have small groups (or more) in every state and 120 or so countries. I could go on and on, mentioning the hundreds of baptisms performed annually and much more. Pastor Furtick has written several books along with hundreds of songs. He has an idependent income that he has no need to apologize for and can do what he wants to with. The Bible says it's by the fruit that we know people. Obviously there is much much good fruit here.
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He's NOT a pastor he's a false teacher.
And yet they hardly ever read the bible and they just focus on showmanship as the main attraction.
This is the type of follower who gives money and engages in celebrity worship.
Talk about taking a verse way out of context, the fact that you refer to fruits as money and worldy success show how completely blinded you are and alot of Christains due to churches that run this type of scheme. This is the problem with churches like this that decevie people into thinking that fruits are how associated with money by using God as some sort of personal bank. The fruit this verse refers to is the fruits of the spirit (God's Character). I pray that you will read your bible more, as the truth will set you free. Matthew 7:15-20
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True and False Prophets
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them@@1955dmb
There's a lack of transparency in selfishness in every false teacher in the prosperity gospel nowadays.
May Steven Furtick have an authentic experience of knowing Jesus Christ(the suffering servant).🙏
Does he preach Jesus Christ Crucified and Resurrected? Does he preach The Cross? Does he preach the strait path and narrow gate? Does he preach The Blood? Does he preach God the same yesterday today and tomorrow? Beware of preaching the contains new age ways to salvation, because salvation only comes one way it has never changed and never will.
1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Hi Sam, you know all the people in the upper room on the day of Pentecost were all Jewish. The Jewish apostles were slow to take the message of Jesus to the gentiles. The gentiles were slow to receive it because they didn't want to be circumcised, the men didn't want that, and so Judaism became what you understand as your religion today. Peace Friend.
YES YES YES and YES - find out for yourself, answer your own questions
Richard Gandy YES! Steven ROCKS!
No, he pushes an emotional response. He puts himself at the center. He promotes a "me" religion. He is leading people straight to hell.
I think people need to be more concerned with their own house of cards instead of someone else's, in this case Pastor Furtick's. I will guarantee everyone has shaky foundational cards in their personal and family lives but because everyone is so enthralled in trying to correct someone else's house of cards because of jealousy their own house of cards fall on them. Ever stop to think to kick out that sin of jealousy and just maybe God might open up that door of blessing on your life, something is always blocking that door but everyone gets mad and jealous at somebody else when that person turns things over to the Lord and then the Lord turns beauty from ashes. Don't you all know that the Lord wants the same in your life too? Just a thought not a sermon.
No one jealous of Steven. No pastor or supposed man of God needs or deserves a 16 million dollar home, it’s excessive and greedy, especially when there are homeless and needy people dying every day due to food insecurity.
Don’t you remember someone writing letters to a few different churches warning them to test teachings? What makes you think Steven is above reproach?
Furthermore, if a man is preaching and leading people, he deserves to be investigated and scrutinized, if there is nothing to hide there should be no issue with it. Elevation is nothing but an emotionally driven cult made to worship mamon and elevate Steven’s vision rather than God’s. The church is spiritually dead and completely ineffective in the world because God’s people continue to allow wolves and sheep’s clothing to infiltrate the church and keep them in a state of complacency. There is no real worship, prayer or deliverance occurring and people are being lead to hell daily because of superficial ministries like this.
May God help and have mercy on anyone who follows this man.
Or a multi million dollar home at all.
It is not about jealousy. It's about who you allow to lead you spiritually. If a spiritual leader is obsessed with homes, vacations, watches, expensive clothing, selling books and music, speaking for a fee, etc., ......................................seems shady to me. And yes, you are right, we all need to be working out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Part of that is choosing good people to lead us.
The problem is the damage Furtick does with his false preaching.
So we're the judges now. Things aren't always as they seen. If you really did some research, most often the home is given to the Pastor, but when a Pastor wants to buy his own house, there's an issue and he's judged before knowing the facts. It sounds familiar, doesn't it!
Furtick is a heretic. Do some research on UA-cam.
Galatians 1:6-9King James Version (KJV)
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
I'd rather hear from Stephen than from Paul at this point.
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Last time I checked Jesus told us to ( go into all the world and preach the gospel) He didn’t say you’re limited to what man deemed responsible. Jesus said he would bless us (Beyond more than you can ask or imagine) Jesus Christ is limitless So I would ask of all these finger pointers WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR JESUS LATELY. HOW MANY SOULS HAVE YOU WON FOR THE KINGDOM???
If I was tithing at this church I would want to know what his yearly salary is.And as a tithe payer i think I have the the right to know.
U don’t have any rights your money first belongs to God, tithing is based on a biblical principle only not for your to then monitor what happens to the money, tithing isn’t about the money it’s about obedience to the word of God. The other details are not your concern
Absolutely disgusting. JESUS rebuke Steven and all those who are accountable who attend there. What a mess
if Steven preched on how wicked and sinful we are and are deserving of hell. Also preaching the truth about sexual immorality then this church wouldn't be so popular. Never in the history of the church of Christ has sexual immorality and homosexuality been accepted the way it is by christians and the church. wherever you see a great amount of people gathered that way in this generation than there's something to draw them besides the truth of Gods word. it's more entertainment
Add women pastors and acceptance of abortion to your list.
lol the "Jumper Drive Trust"... Does no one get that pun?? Furtick is laughing all the way to the bank.
Actually, "In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel." Chill broskis.
"Earn your living" doesn't mean get rich. Don't misread scripture please.
We also shouldn't judge and love thy neighbor as we love ourselves
@@Itspoppinrobinwe judge things as humans every second of every day. God is love truth is love.
The problem I have with him, is he is not teaching from the Bible and often twists the Bible. I do not care how much money he has. I care he is leading people astray.
He elevated himself and cash is his God !
@Clinton Dove i agree !
Don't judge by perspective. It's not about the things of this world, it's about relationship with the one who created and saved you
@@luischirinos3131 That is your opinion , why don't you you tell him what it is about ! I am not his judge , just an observer and i know whom i serve .
Time to put a limit on exemption.This has to stop
Good report Wcnc Newsroom
Transparency is extremely important.
William Cook, you speak against someone you've never heard speak? I could go run with that, all kinds of different places, I could get into my testimony, how I've left my miserable past behind me, how Elevation church has been an integral part of my reconnecting again with the world, about how I have agoraphobia but for the last 3 weeks in a row I have ventured out on Sunday morning to attend church - this church. I could do all that but you won't hear any of it because you've already made up your closed mind. He's calling a VERY LOST, WARPED generation to a life of morality, service, and get-your-act-together behavior. Yeah, what an awful guy. If he can pull that off, with God's help, I say he's worth every penny and more. The world around us, our own country, is going down the toilet, he's trying to make a difference, and all the naysayers can pull from it is....MONEY ISSUES. Figures. Well, news flash, he won't ever stop. He will fight. I wont ever stop. I will fight. People I've never even met yet at Elevation bc of my condition, but I know they wont stop. They will fight. So carry on, sir, carry on. Because that's what you're doing - carrying on. One more thing, all us kool aid drinking sheep know he's pulling in some cash. We still give. Because we believe in his mission to fulfill God's mission. I encourage you to attend one service and then REPLY. If you can't at least do that before coming back at me, then don't bother because you can make no point if you only see and hear one side of a story from an "investigative reporter" looking for his next story, a breaking story, that just might save his years-long career or maybe get him some gig attention himself.
It’s sad how brainwashed you by this cult leader. I hope one day you can see what all of us normal people see
He is a false teacher. Do some research on Steven Furtick and Heretic. It is not about the money.
Matthew 16:26 KJV
For what is a man profited, it he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
1.7 million isn't that much on a custom house with land.
People should read the Bible.
Some very rich men are in there.
Abraham, David, Solomon...etc.
God has no problem with money, just those who love it.
Did Abraham, David, and Solomon become rich by preaching the Gospel? Big difference between them and pastors.
@@rhavenlynn5364
There is nothing wrong with money.
Prov 10:22
I could care less if he had 10 houses. What I care about is that he is a heretic. He is doing so much damage by leading people astray.
@@run4cmt Romans 2:1
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This was a non story! NBC is an embarrassment! They say his home cost millions and then admit they were lying to make it sound worse. $1.7 Million is not millions. In fact, it is not even that much of a home for a guy that has accomplished as much and contributed as much to people and charities as Steven has. It is too bad they could not find any one that people actually know and respect to join in on their hit piece. NBC is the worst of the worst. People who have any sense at all would never slow down their giving based on the garbage mentioned in this story!
How do we even know the true cost? If they won’t disclose anything financial and are afraid of transparency then I doubt a 16,000 home can be built for less than 2 mil
How is it that the atheist is more honorable and ethical than the pastor?
Greedy men of corrupt minds supposing the gospel is a means of gain, the Bible says.
ROBBY THERE YOU ARE! I notice you crept away and deleted your “inspired words” after you realized that it is true…you are this “Good Christian” because it was the most readily available religion to you…it was the nearest and easiest to access..most everyone you associate with is “Christian” and it was the easiest thing for you to adapt into….your religion was chosen for you🤣
@@alexquintana1031 Wow, do much stalking lately? My inspired words are just as true they ever were regardless of what happened to them wouldn’t you say? I mean they have you stalking me across the internet for reasons only someone like yourself could possibly understand? That’s some real creeper type behavior right there! I “deleted my comments for one reason only……..TO GET AWAY FROM YOU (Because I thought, this guy’s out there and he will never shut up) and now look who’s tracked me down so they could continue their point. Maybe a therapist would be a better fit for you rather than stalking me around YT land trying to “make your point”. Bizarre behavior to say the least. You have definitely confirmed all my suspicions about you. Which is why I chose to stop my interactions with you. A very clear case of “It’s not me…. It’s you!”
@@alexquintana1031 Just look at your reply to me. Very strange. “THERE YOU ARE” in all caps, displaying a very real and misplaced excitement over finding me again to continue your endless chatter. Then you actually believe I deleted my comments…..why….because of something you said? Seriously? What, you made me see the proverbial light here, or you so overwhelmed me with truth that I had to rethink my life or something? 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤣. I literally laughed out loud when I read that.
Delusional, grandiose and narcissistic tendencies on full display. That’s WHY I deleted my previous comments. To avoid an endless, tiring, boring, back and forth with a delusional narcissist willing to “stalk” people just to continue making their point.
See I made my points, then deleted them because I’m not interested in THIS……..this, is nonsense and a colossal waste of my time and energy and frankly it’s a bunch of bullshit. If you must “debate” people, join a club, if you need to tell someone you’re inner thoughts, get a therapist, if you’re just a mental case who can’t shut up because he’s full of self importance then again, get therapy. Either way or anyway do whatever, but do me this solid and go stalk someone who cares.
I don't see how it is anyone's business how much money another person has really.
Because if you are a believer, you have Holy Spirit discernment so that you can choose wisely - who you allow to lead you spiritually. This is very important! A spiritual leader who uses techniques to get rich is not someone I trust.
NO pastor should be worth $55 million dollars. PERIOD!!!!!
23:00 Church doesn't have to tell you anything. God already knows everything. If he's in the wrong, God will deal with him. Also, God gave him the ability to create wealth. (Deuteronomy 8:18)
I like people to be aware so they are not fooled by false teachers like this.
7 bathrooms? that's a shit ton of Comet....just sayin....
The Word of Faith, the Emergent church, the Elevation church, Hillsong or whatever they call themselves nowadays....if their so-called pastors, evangelists, preachers or whatever they are called, were to preach on salvation, repentance, hell, wickedness, sin, then I can assure you they won't have big mega-churches like this. But they choose to preach ear-tickling sermons, won't call sin by it's name, won't preach against homosexual abomination, won't preach on hell, damnation and wickedness because they will offend and lose members and thereby the money flow will become a trickle. These churches are no longer what God intended them to be...a place to save souls, but rather it has become businesses where Jesus is no longer Lord of all. It is all about the celebrity-pastors and how much mammon they can earn.
Not true. I served in a family churches for 24 years. That is a lie that is told to make being small feel better. I now serve at a "mega church" where my pastor gives millions, but he speaks the truth dead on with no hesitation and is attacked for it by the media. The media is trying to discredit the church, good or bad. They know if they can raise questions, that is enough to discredit in this world. There are doctors here in New Mexico with 2 million dollar houses. I dont get it. Most pastors I know have people staying over. traveling through and often meetings etc. YEs there are celebrity pastors, but all large churches are not created equal. We cant say that they are not speaking truth. My mega church pastor provides more teaching and word then I ever got from the sensationalists at the smaller churches that hated on big churches.
halizcomet Yep, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. They're successful for being honest, and for helping people. They're doing the best job and the truth is seen in the success. I used to help in smaller churches, but I would attend mega churches from time to time. They all got along. I live in Riverside, we have a famous cross on Mt. Rubidoux. For years it was on public property! 107 years!!
That is beautiful. I pray unity in the Body of Christ. It is our life blood. Thank you for sharing. God Bless you.
We need to pray for the souls in those churches who are being led astray.
We need to pray for a falling away from the false churches and a gathering unto the true church of the Lord.
Furtick is a demon. He is no servant of the Lord.
HE is not my pastor, but HE is not a demon. Perhaps he may have one, I cant say. I mentioned my pastor in another post. I only refuted the comment of tax payers... Whoever is full of demons. ought to have servants of God, so full of His Spirit and love, that they are busy casting out demons, not dialoguing about them. Love is the principle thing here.
God has blessed him and will continue to bless him because he’s preaching His word.❤
Honey that's not true
Steven is a false teacher and ppl have been deceived.
He’s a motivational speaker at best is what he is
I loved Pastor Steve since COVID. However I just seen him in a 500$ sweatshirt so I went down a rabbit hole. And landed here.
Read the Bible cover to cover and you won't fall for the lies of this and other charlatans
Chris always gets it spot on for sure.
This video is on point.
In fairness to Furtick, $1.7 million is pretty conservative for a mega church preacher. You should see Joyce Meyer’s house.
Here we go again...:( So sad. Will we ever learn.
What the heck they said he's generous to the church what does that supposed to mean?
People get away from This church as soon as you can!!!!! Shame on Steven Furtick!!!!!
They care about the money
Who soul as been saved, this is The prosperity gospel on steroids if you were in Elevation Church run do not walk out of the church run for your life because he’s gonna take you to Hell
How about we see what Jesus says:
38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”(B)
39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us.(C) 41 Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.(D)
I get your point against a hostile attitude. But just in case any reads this and does care to be saved;
Matt 7 21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Furtick preachers false doctrine. He calls himself God. I heard him say, "I am God". He's misled and misleading others. Anyone that has to live in a mansion on ministry money, is all about money. He's just like the prosperity teachers. TD Jake's, his mentor, Joyce Myer, and others. I'm not trying to find fault, but this is not Biblical.
Wow, I look at him so different 😢
I like how he preaches, I mean don't get me wrong, he is making a ton of money but if he helps people then really what does it hurt, he's the only one who knows if he is doing the correct things with his money. He is the only one who will have to answer to God oneday 💔 I pray he is doing right ❤
Fair points however, word is you cannot question his theology, as a leader within the Church. Reported on "Doreen Irvine" YT Channel.
@firstbornjordan I didn't realize he was questioning theology, everything I have heard him preach so far seems to go along with the bible. Am I missing something? Let me know because I am confused at what your saying 🤔
I don't know about Stephen Ferdic but Housing allowance is not tax free--he still must pay taxes but not as much but it will be alot for $250,000. So this news station got it wrong or is not honest.
+Stan lk no, they didn't. the church clearly stated it was tax free.
It's all about the money with these mega-churches and pastors. For them to live like rock-stars....and become untouchable!!
They all have the prosperity gospel built in to their sermons.
They worship mammon not God.
It is sad because if they truly served the Lord they could actually be saving so many souls with their fame and position. I guess it is Satan who put them where they are, which is on TV and UA-cam, and given them fame and fortune (at the expense of believers).
Absolutely correct. If they were to preach the truth about the gospel\good news, which is Jesus Christ and Him Crucified I wonder how many will leave the church then.
Obviously you have never watched him preach? Thousands and thousands have been led to the lord through him. Redirect your focus people.
@@adammadeofwood9393 yes meaning thousands and thousands have unfortunately been brainwashed by him. It’s a cult! Anyone with a clear mind can see that
@@adammadeofwood9393 You can't lead other's to the Lord, when you don't even preach the actual Gospel.
Youse are all wrong for trying to tear down this man of God he's a great pastor. Smh why do you push on a man who gave his life to God??? What are you getting out of coming after God's men
Another fool
He’s a conman and a cult leader. Not a pastor!
If I don’t give, if I don’t buy; I don’t say anything.
1 Timothy 5:18
Amplified Bible
18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain [to keep it from eating],” and, “The worker is worthy of his wages [he deserves fair compensation].”
Enjoy your well deserved crib(house)Pastor sreven and Holly....God loves you and so do i.....PETERCHILDGOD
It’s wrong these people don’t pay taxes when they are making this kind of money
Best thing to do is pray for his soul. Pastor Matt if I am correct did a sermon that seem to be a prophetic word
Yup!
Wolf, clothing, sheep's, in... just rearrange these words to discover the true nature of this money grubbing insult to the Gospel of Christ.
Amen bro!
Glory to God and may God be with you and your family!
Adam Goodword Thanks Adam, you too!
Secularists only get mad when pastors buy big houses, but anyone else its okay?
God never said don't be rich, in fact the story of Job shows God's way of blessing someone can be with earlthy riches. We were made to thrive
this is so stupid, if rappers who make money off of treating women like animals, talking about violence and gang banging can buy million dollar homes, id prefer the man who has brought a church like elevation to the public and who donates millions of dollars a year to have an even bigger home than what he already has.
So it's okay for pastors to exploit the system for personal game because ... rappers ... do it?
***** First of all, yes, rappers are lying. They glorify living in poverty and brag about killing people when most of them have never done it.
Second of all, it was a rhetorical question aimed at the idiocy of +Jamie Padgett 's comment.
Third, you are correct. Furtick is a liar.
+FAITHandLOGIC He makes his money through book sales. He is not collecting the money through the offering plate and keeping it for himself.
Jamie Padgett That's a lie. He makes some money through book sales but not enough to pay for a house like that.
He has an outrageous salary and most of it is tax-free because of the parsonage. Didn't you watch the video? Of course you didn't. You watched 3 seconds of it and made a comment because you didn't want to hear anything you don't want to hear.
Just like the Bible that you claim is your authority. You cherry-pick the parts you like and ignore the rest.
Your pastor is a lying scumbag. But you don't care. As long as you get your Sunday morning rock concert and entertainment, you're happy.
We'll see when the kool aid gets passed around
I'm sorry. Y'all went through all this trouble to find a pastor to tell you pastors and true christians are suppose to be poor and live struggling? I'm sure he's convinced his congregation to live beneath God's best for them. I don't think pastors should get more than fair wages from their work. But if he's making money off a book he wrote or other gifts God gave him, whats it to you? Everybody from presidents to MDs and teachers make money selling books they wrote.
THEY GAVE 1O MILLION to the community...what is the tax payer getting? You get a bunch of homeless and hungry people fed, you get a bunch of people who would participate in crime, rob you for food, able to go to the place that received money. No one said that you or I would directly benefit.
And they gave NONE of the GLORY to GOD!!
huh? All glory goes to God at our church. My pastor is persecuted for standing for truth, persecuted by the secular media and unbelievers. Now by "Christians" too? How interesting that you would say that. Isn't that a heavy handed does of premature judgement. He is actually careful to direct it all to Gods doing. I wish every one on here with this attitude would recognize how unloving and how antiChrist like it is to be the accuser of the brethren. We are setting up our own persecution. This type of finger pointing is why the world wants nothing to do with Jesus. We will answer for every word we have spoken. Very sad state we are in brother, when we are so busy falsely accusing the Body of Christ, while every other wicked organization and group is binding together like glue. I have no time for the work of satan...division.
Prayer is always the remedy and approach that true, maturing Christians use for fallen brothers. Judge not, lest you be judged. For my dear brother, you will be according to the measure of grace you give or withhold. Yes, even our internet posts are recorded by our Lord, the Almighty. IF this man fell away from humility, pray for him. Israel at times fell away from humility. Remember, God did not cast them off for good. Why are we quick to?
How much do you give to the poor? Im not disagreeing except for the motive of the complainers who are the work able takers in our society, yet police everyone else.
King David, King Solomon, and Joseph. These are just a few examples of men in The Bible that were rich, even though maybe not at 1st. So they were all cult leaders too?
Why not consider celebrities and politician cult leaders also?
They also have die hard followers as well and their rich.
Each one of them also claims to be looking out for the best interest of their peers.
Why not keep the same energy?
How come there not all cult leaders?
Some of Steven's followers may be crazy but he didn't ask them for their undying loyalty to him. Blaming a man for other people wanting to bless him or look up to him is silly and quite jealous. The man never claimed to be perfect and he never asked for people to follow him. Nor did he ever say if you don't follow me your not going to heaven or something crazy like that period lol you don't have to trick some people in the following because people naturally follow and look for something to worship.
No people should not worship this man but he hasn't asked them to either. Infact in many occasion's he is told them not to focus on him.
Yall can be mad at what another man has all you want but that's not gonna put money in your bank account or make people want to follow you. Straight up.
Yet no one has a problem with the sinner's profitting and building multi million dollar homes. Pastor Steven has worked hard in his life not only worked but worked to glorify God. As Christians we are to love that is all. So do not recite the word without obeying the whole word. Those who condemn are the ones who have fooled themselves. Those who are not Christian, we pray for and love them to Christ. If we spent more time focused on the will of God, we wouldnt have time to focus on condemning the world. Choose your mountains wisely friends.
He didn’t work hard for anything he has. He conned people out of their money:
Well said!!!
I would not care if he had 20 houses, if he was not a false teacher.
These people are being conned
And what about Christian singers and songwriters. ..should they be exempt too. Bc I feel like my worship music does more sometimes than preaching... It's all their own business not ours
HE SOLD BOOKS FOR HIS HOUSE AND GAVE BACK TO THE CHURCH!!! YALL ARE JUST HATERS!!!
Having money is NOT sin. Jealousy is. Envy is.
Being greedy is definitely jesus way lol gtfoh
@@AlexWazHere did you just say Jesus and gtfoh in the same sentence?😂
Conning people out of millions is also a sin
So is being a false teacher.