Okay ye I completely forgot about Xin, Carrib and that 1 test formable, Yun Dynasty" Xin : Not Relevant to shanxi Carrib : Fictional - Based on Region Yun : doesn't exist
I feel like if they were to put The Third Reich back in the game, they would make it so they would have to take more land. It would make more sense for them to to have to take Czech, Austria, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Belarus, Lithuania, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, and Ukraine. Basically, Germany at it's biggest size, not including Russian land taken during the time.
honestly some of them were for balancing reasons cause hittite and zaire were just free 10% stab really early into the game for countries that were already quite op
They removed xin dynasty as shanxi (one of chinas releasables) literally a day after i formed it. Felt like i wasted time Forming it was super annoying too because 90% of the time. Mongolia, russia, korea, japan, taiwan, and rarely india would try to take advantage of a collapsed china
Fr. Brung back USSA and African unions. Also having non historical formables could be really fun because it could give countries who dont have a lot of formables Some formables.cause countries like Japan ONLY having Japanese empire isn’t very fun. Or countries like India where its “form Maurya and thats it”
I miss my United States of South America, Central Asian Union, Alpine Republic, Kingdom of Fiji and Kingdom of the Isles; it took me a while to make them since the territories are easy pickings for other players who want to make their own empires
Me personally I don’t like how they are getting rid of formables because they are unrealistic or don’t exist like This whole game is pretty unrealistic 😭 just let us have some cool formables we can do
When they remove a formable in RON and you fromed it once they should give you a small compensation, as someone whos been playing since 2021 its annoying that the time i used to make the formables just goes to waste, even a title would be something nice
honestly tho, who tf cares if its unrealistic or never existed? look at hoi4, you can literally do all kinds of wacky ass shit, such as having a bear lead a fucking empire, or hitler as leader of argentima, yet ron is like "erm, if it doesnt exist or is unrealistic, its not fun!!!" like bro, yeah it makes countries op, but just make it so it doesnt give stab, only cores, no modifers eithers, or just make the formable harder, its literally so dumb that they choose realism over fun.
South American one was removed because 1. It was unrealistic never happened in history or never any big steps towards it historically 2. It caused Brazil players to take over the continent without giving the other counties a chance at survival
Has the North American Union happened irl? Its harder for Brazil because they are democratic and have to invade more nations Not to mention USAs #1 ranking power
USSA was an economic alliance which failed miserable, isnt comparable to NAU or EU even if not accurate. USSA was just there, doing nothing, neither the people of south america aims for unifying the region, lole sometimes EU and NAU does In the economic aspect, pacific alliance and mercosur where running as usual, again USSA doong nothing, EU has major convenions between the members, NAU only between canada and usa, but mexico indirectly is a strong partner for usa Also Nau being removed leaves usa withouth a formable, which is kinda weird
There should be a custom game mode where the normal countries and divided by their states, which are independent countries themselves, in order to recreate a country you have to combine all the independent states ( north Vietnam has to take south Vietnam and vice versa, same for everything else) and in order to make nations unique, give buffs to every nation so they have advantages and disadvantages, thus making them unique ( Britain gets better naval costs and experience so they can have naval superiority, China and Us get an extra max total manpower, and so on) this would make the nations way more unique and strategic
I don't know why to remove formables even if they have no historical basis; for that NAU should not exist either or some European countries that in real life are not part of EU should not be able to form it. Also, about Patagonia, it was rather based on the geographic region called Patagonia that is located both in Argentina and Chile. It should not have been removed; for that case United Papua, that is also based on a geographic region rather than history should not exist either.
But there are actual movements to unite the Island of Papua The same cannot be said for Patagonia Also the ideology of pan europeanism generally extends to more than just eu nations which is why it's planned for uk to be included as well.
The formables being removed are stupid. The whole point of these games is for countries to rise to power that they never had, so it makes no sense for formables to get removed because they never happened
I will NEVER forgive hyperant for removing USSA... best formable in the history of ever it was so fun to form and if you formed it as brazil, you'd be way stronger than usa and china combined :(
i think it should be added back just not for brazil, it encourages brazil players to not give any other south american players a chance and brazil is usually the only country played in south america, it would solidify brazil as the only nation played and make them op
gold coast and empire of gabon were so good. i think those were the first ones i ever did. removing zaire was understandable though, but he could’ve transformed it into a sort of congo union type formable
imo,its a game,why does it need to be realistic. its pointless to remove stuff just for "realism" besides isn't a game just supposed to be fun? and where's the fun in removing stuff from the game? some of these do make some sense,ie removing one in favor of a similar but more historical formable like the empire of yemen but stuff like removing the ussa for realism's sake,i do not get
Bro, rise of nations is such a good game, but it sucks how the owner can't balance things, so instead of balancing the formable, they just delete it, honestly the owner sucks
Having historical formables at all is an illogical idea. I like forming them, but the number of fictional ones should definitley outnumber historical ones. A historical empire has never existed twice separately, so what makes it different in the modern day setting with ron? The idea of moving forwards into the future is creating things that never existed before.
Many countries claim the heritage of an older nation, by example Turkey and Ottoman Empire, Greece and Byzance... It is not really illogical, compared to fictional empired that, well, never even existed in the first place.
@@detektiv_mathz That's fair, but the number of fictional ones should outnumber historical ones. Every historical empire was fictional before it existed, and there have been way more empires than reformed empires.
I tried to form the African Union yesterday and it was hard, despite it being the year 2077. I didn’t even form it since it will take until 10:00 pm for me to complete probably.
I never really pay attention to formables, cuz all I do in the game was just to have fun but yeah USSA being removed makes playing any South American countries boring unless they can do patria grande
You missed the han dynasty which was formed by a Chinese releasable. It got removed after the Chinese tile update Edit: after i wrote this i am now unsure if it was called han or xin
Xin, and xin was kind of not only an over extent for Shanxi but old Shanxi was a powerhouse, so it could’ve easily gain stab and reach the top ranks. Also, it lacked key states (I.E. most of releasable China) from its formable.
I feel like a formable that should be removed is Rattanakosin kingdom, because it doesn't make any sense to be in game, let alone can also be formed by Burma and Malaysia too while it's a THAI kingdom
Oh yeah I remember that, it was formed by shanxi whenever it was in central China, I don't know why they removed it but I do have a theory. I think they removed it after they added all the new releasables in China and they moved shanxi up the the north (where it was historically) and it just wouldn't make sense for them to form it anymore. And also I don't think shanxi ever claimed to be a successor of that specific Chinese dynasty
Dude the music is so fucking loud that I can barely understand what you’re saying, for future reference, maybe put it a little (way) lower on volume for viewing pleasure?
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Okay ye I completely forgot about Xin, Carrib and that 1 test formable, Yun Dynasty"
Xin : Not Relevant to shanxi
Carrib : Fictional - Based on Region
Yun : doesn't exist
@@detektiv_mathz xin was removed because it was just mini han
But then hyperant didn't add han either lol
They removed bc they like usa being BROKEN
I feel like if they were to put The Third Reich back in the game, they would make it so they would have to take more land. It would make more sense for them to to have to take Czech, Austria, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Belarus, Lithuania, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, and Ukraine. Basically, Germany at it's biggest size, not including Russian land taken during the time.
I fucking hate how they removing formables 💀
honestly some of them were for balancing reasons cause hittite and zaire were just free 10% stab really early into the game for countries that were already quite op
@@floppa3636 formables literally meant to supress separatism ofc they can be fictional cuz that how they are made ☠☠
yeah like 3rd reich
They removed xin dynasty as shanxi (one of chinas releasables) literally a day after i formed it. Felt like i wasted time
Forming it was super annoying too because 90% of the time. Mongolia, russia, korea, japan, taiwan, and rarely india would try to take advantage of a collapsed china
@@Red_X45 Do not.
Kinda stupid how they removed all the formables with no historical basis the point of the game is to make your own history
i was thinking the same thing...
Fiji taking over all of Germany is realistic trust me
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Fr. Brung back USSA and African unions. Also having non historical formables could be really fun because it could give countries who dont have a lot of formables Some formables.cause countries like Japan ONLY having Japanese empire isn’t very fun. Or countries like India where its “form Maurya and thats it”
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In my opinion, if they removed USSA then they should have removed NAU aswell
Now that I think about it... dang you are kinda right
What was USSA?
@@I_am_bacon._. United States of south america
@@ScottishProductionsYT that formable should have stayed. It would be fun to form it quickly as brazil.
@@I_am_bacon._. yeah, it would be fun to form it as a country like French Guyana or Uruguay as a challange
I miss my United States of South America, Central Asian Union, Alpine Republic, Kingdom of Fiji and Kingdom of the Isles; it took me a while to make them since the territories are easy pickings for other players who want to make their own empires
turkic union is basically central asian union though, same with a few kazakh and uzbek formables
Me personally I don’t like how they are getting rid of formables because they are unrealistic or don’t exist like
This whole game is pretty unrealistic 😭 just let us have some cool formables we can do
yea like bro thats stupid
That’s true
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When they remove a formable in RON and you fromed it once they should give you a small compensation, as someone whos been playing since 2021 its annoying that the time i used to make the formables just goes to waste, even a title would be something nice
Not a title, more like a badge and if they give you a title for every formable it's kinda downgrades it and the value of importance
honestly tho, who tf cares if its unrealistic or never existed? look at hoi4, you can literally do all kinds of wacky ass shit, such as having a bear lead a fucking empire, or hitler as leader of argentima, yet ron is like "erm, if it doesnt exist or is unrealistic, its not fun!!!" like bro, yeah it makes countries op, but just make it so it doesnt give stab, only cores, no modifers eithers, or just make the formable harder, its literally so dumb that they choose realism over fun.
USAA was so cool i miss when it was there
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Yeah. Especially in my newer days of RoN, when i had like around 25-50k xp. I’d love forming USSA as brazil, just because I was bored.
I am quite new as a RON player, USSA Was my first big formable, I miss it
South American one was removed because
1. It was unrealistic never happened in history or never any big steps towards it historically
2. It caused Brazil players to take over the continent without giving the other counties a chance at survival
Doesn’t make sense when thinking of nau
Has the North American Union happened irl? Its harder for Brazil because they are democratic and have to invade more nations
Not to mention USAs #1 ranking power
@@SirArny I mean it’s a lot more realistic than South American but both shouldn’t exist
@@Lumiere192 true
USSA was an economic alliance which failed miserable, isnt comparable to NAU or EU even if not accurate.
USSA was just there, doing nothing, neither the people of south america aims for unifying the region, lole sometimes EU and NAU does
In the economic aspect, pacific alliance and mercosur where running as usual, again USSA doong nothing, EU has major convenions between the members, NAU only between canada and usa, but mexico indirectly is a strong partner for usa
Also Nau being removed leaves usa withouth a formable, which is kinda weird
Ayyyyyy, nice video dude! keep up the great content!
There should be a custom game mode where the normal countries and divided by their states, which are independent countries themselves, in order to recreate a country you have to combine all the independent states ( north Vietnam has to take south Vietnam and vice versa, same for everything else) and in order to make nations unique, give buffs to every nation so they have advantages and disadvantages, thus making them unique ( Britain gets better naval costs and experience so they can have naval superiority, China and Us get an extra max total manpower, and so on) this would make the nations way more unique and strategic
Nah that would take so much time to individually tailor every single region of a country
so basically just releasing all releasables and just trying to get them back?
I don't think hyperant have enough time to make an earth-like holy roman empire
thats a pretty cool idea
I don't know why to remove formables even if they have no historical basis; for that NAU should not exist either or some European countries that in real life are not part of EU should not be able to form it.
Also, about Patagonia, it was rather based on the geographic region called Patagonia that is located both in Argentina and Chile. It should not have been removed; for that case United Papua, that is also based on a geographic region rather than history should not exist either.
But there are actual movements to unite the Island of Papua
The same cannot be said for Patagonia
Also the ideology of pan europeanism generally extends to more than just eu nations which is why it's planned for uk to be included as well.
The formables being removed are stupid. The whole point of these games is for countries to rise to power that they never had, so it makes no sense for formables to get removed because they never happened
I think why they removed the south american union its because south americans players always get taken by brazil
Yeahhh but Brazil players will (apart from being 99% noobs) always prioritize SA first so it wouldn’t change much besides from cores
That still hasn’t changed tho
NAU, EU and AU are proposed or existing political bodies, the NAU was proposed, the EU and AU are current political bodies
BRAZIL IS GOING TO YOU🇧🇷👹
Why remove the USSA when the African Union, European Union, and North American Union exist like it just makes sense.
Australasian too
Spartan empire was the wierderst but cooler formables imo. The flag looked awesome and it was quite fun to form
They should add Asia if they already got unrealistic NAU and bring back USSA so we can have all unified continents
Oceania:
@@dalalhadi5181 Australium is kinda Oceania... Shein edition ig
@@dalalhadi5181Can't you form Australasian as Australia?
@@earthgaming228 antarctic union would be a funny april fools joke, gives 0+ stab and all you need is to spawn in as antarctica
still dont see the point in removing things :(
exactly. WE ARE suppose to make our own history and not repeat or form nations that already existed,
Small mistake: When Al-Andalus was in the game, Western Sahara started independent
I remember that, that was also when Israel owned Palestine in game.
USSA's flag was honestly my favorite flag, it was really the only reason why I would play as Brazil
I miss alpine republic man. That was really good early formable for Swiss and Austria.
I will NEVER forgive hyperant for removing USSA... best formable in the history of ever it was so fun to form and if you formed it as brazil, you'd be way stronger than usa and china combined :(
i think it should be added back just not for brazil, it encourages brazil players to not give any other south american players a chance and brazil is usually the only country played in south america, it would solidify brazil as the only nation played and make them op
I remember forming the chibchin state as panama and i got help by a guatemala player trying to form Aztec empire
gold coast and empire of gabon were so good. i think those were the first ones i ever did. removing zaire was understandable though, but he could’ve transformed it into a sort of congo union type formable
They should add back USSA AND GOLD COAST
USSA yes, but Gold Coast was just annoying and never gave any other west African counties a chance against Nigeria players trying to form it.
@@chad2522same situation in North America with USA or Europe with Germany. Even if it’s challenging, not a reason you should remove it
@@NormalPerson-idkexcept countries around Germany actually have a chance to defend. What’s a Ghana gonna do against Nigeria
@@EshDerp1425_Monke same thing a poland would do against Germany
@@EshDerp1425_Monke or a Ukraine against Russia
imo,its a game,why does it need to be realistic. its pointless to remove stuff just for "realism" besides isn't a game just supposed to be fun?
and where's the fun in removing stuff from the game?
some of these do make some sense,ie removing one in favor of a similar but more historical formable like the empire of yemen but stuff like removing the ussa for realism's sake,i do not get
Why do they have to remove formables that did not exist?
upper volta song be like
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White Ruthenia, my beloved❤
Bro, rise of nations is such a good game, but it sucks how the owner can't balance things, so instead of balancing the formable, they just delete it, honestly the owner sucks
I remember Saharan kingdom. It was the goat for any North African country. I’d form it anytime I played North Africa.
Having historical formables at all is an illogical idea. I like forming them, but the number of fictional ones should definitley outnumber historical ones. A historical empire has never existed twice separately, so what makes it different in the modern day setting with ron? The idea of moving forwards into the future is creating things that never existed before.
Many countries claim the heritage of an older nation, by example Turkey and Ottoman Empire, Greece and Byzance...
It is not really illogical, compared to fictional empired that, well, never even existed in the first place.
@@detektiv_mathz That's fair, but the number of fictional ones should outnumber historical ones. Every historical empire was fictional before it existed, and there have been way more empires than reformed empires.
I miss the belarussian formable
Devs should add greater syria tbh
I remember seeing a Hong Kong formable named “DONKEY KONG REAL!!1!11!!” or something like that
I still remember some ruthenia player who destroyed everyone
8:58 can't believe that MAJESTIC flag went to waste
They removed it because there was an organization of it (might be wrong)
i did not expect the uppervolta sound
I tried to form the African Union yesterday and it was hard, despite it being the year 2077. I didn’t even form it since it will take until 10:00 pm for me to complete probably.
how did you do it in year 2077
they should bring back ww2 germany with other flag and name just for the sake of having it
11:54 I basically did this map as Togo.
I never really pay attention to formables, cuz all I do in the game was just to have fun but yeah USSA being removed makes playing any South American countries boring unless they can do patria grande
You missed the han dynasty which was formed by a Chinese releasable.
It got removed after the Chinese tile update
Edit: after i wrote this i am now unsure if it was called han or xin
Xin, and xin was kind of not only an over extent for Shanxi but old Shanxi was a powerhouse, so it could’ve easily gain stab and reach the top ranks. Also, it lacked key states (I.E. most of releasable China) from its formable.
If you want to know the difference between Han and Xin. Xin was the one who overthrew the Han for a brief time period
3:20 Its because they made it into a releasable nation, It was a real thing, so idk why you said it wasn't.
Thank God i menaged to get South America Union before it got removed.
2:50 Patagonia flag covering the map🤣
I miss pepper coast man
Me too. I loved that flag
Hold up I might subscribe because this guy makes good RON videos
People in the discord when a formable is interesting and unique and not completely historical:
bring back formables based on ethnicity i miss them 😔
dahomey and sparta best formables 🗿
Man carribean union was really fun too
I loved the flag of the Central Asian Union. I miss it.
3rd Reich wasn’t removed because of Roblox, it was removed due to Hyperant believing it was too OP
Wait they removed the NAU? I haven’t played in a few months…
no they haven't (i think)
Yeh they havent
Good thing they didn’t do this to Europeans!
I miss nile empire and Sahara thing
we don't care if they don't wanna unite or shit like this cuse ron is already alt history
Why was sparta removed
too big, sparta irl only consisted of the peleponnese
I feel like a formable that should be removed is Rattanakosin kingdom, because it doesn't make any sense to be in game, let alone can also be formed by Burma and Malaysia too while it's a THAI kingdom
Easy solution would be just let Thailand, and Thailand only, form it. It doesn’t have to be removed.
@@cyrix6165 The borders are entirely fictional and Thailand already have Siam as a formable
Siam is the one that should be removed.
It's just smaller rattanakosin
Also Malaysia won't form it anymore is planned
Baltimapu also had Medoza if I remember correctly
Butalmapu* Mendoza* yes tha5s correct
Are you French ?
Your accent seems French
wish there was a empire called "the pacif empire"
I remember there was a formable called the Xin dynasty in china a year or 2 ago, does anyone know why that was removed?
I only ever remember the Qing Dynasty, might not have had enough xp for china back then tho, I dont remember
Oh yeah I remember that, it was formed by shanxi whenever it was in central China, I don't know why they removed it but I do have a theory. I think they removed it after they added all the new releasables in China and they moved shanxi up the the north (where it was historically) and it just wouldn't make sense for them to form it anymore. And also I don't think shanxi ever claimed to be a successor of that specific Chinese dynasty
@@KaiserCharles12 ah, thanks for the possible explanation. I also felt the formable was kinda random at the time, only for one dynasty and not more.
SAU was peak ron times
They removed Upper Volta???
You forgot about the illyrian empire form by albania
Illyria is possible thru Slovenia(?)
I miss the old Iberian Union flag, Andalusia as Gibraltar and ostrogoths as San Marino :/
in my opnion ussa never exsited in the game
bruh thats a fact u are confusing facts with opinions but u do u
the ussa actually existed in the game, it was my first formable ever after brazillian empire actually
It did exist before but it got removed like a year ago
Smartest RON player:
USSA existed. This is an objective fact.
Wait kingdom of Jerusalem was removed?
Why did they remove so many good ones 😢
also, NO NOT DAHOMEY
How did you play as true unkown??
south american union was my first formable ;-;
You forgot about the carribean federation/union😢
i always play with chile since im chilean and i formed USSA once
I spent a shit ton of time forming these for nothing :((((((
alors toi si t'es pas francais je me pose des questions.
I miss south America firm it was super op😊
you forgot the xin dynasty
central asian union was goated prob the only good formable removed and was the greatest formable in central asia tbh
?????
Central Asia is bloated with formables
Plus Turkestan formable exists now and is very based
yeah but it was the easiest for me since no other wants to invade central asia
@@SaniaRehan Flag is ugly icl
A French guy saying the German empire is sigma?!? Also I thought the third reich would be bigger tbh
music is too loud
Xin Dynasty and Gbaya Empire?
yun dynasty a removed test formable
T'es français ? Ta un accent français
Dude the music is so fucking loud that I can barely understand what you’re saying, for future reference, maybe put it a little (way) lower on volume for viewing pleasure?
Also you missed the ming dynasty
Was that ever in the game?
No
It was a long time ago
RoN devs when it comes to releasing useless skins which lags the game and costs money as well as a useless corruption feature😁
RoN devs when it comes to fun and practical features in the game🤬
tu est français?
MY MAA 😭😭
Are you French?
Make montenegro vidéo
Us need to add prussia
I liked the video but it has zero likes in the vídeo
Edit: nvm
Same likes and comments
stop remving stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (except for maybe patagonia and ww2 germany those are fine)
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