You guys should do a study of how Rwanda regulated churches and then have a deeper discussion on this matter. Mutua himself is not sounding deep on the matter. He is approaching it more from the aspect of his time as head of the film board.
No one should be blamed,,As a nation we have failed more than 100 innocent children,,who are dead coz of a mad man,,,God please forgive us,,when a certain family came complaining about Dr Owuor ,she was ignored,,the guy is still in her properties,, we have manyuru, he has mislead hundreds and still doing it,, are they waiting for them to be extreme and pretend to care???God bless Dr.Mutua,he has always been against this madness.
To Mr Mutual i saw another way people in the Bar drinking and Worshing New way of like a church with DJ in Tv what's your suggestions there? Yet is also in public TVs
The question CT is asking is relevant. Good churches call out false teachers, but churches don’t have a way to enforce its regulations hence Mr. Mutua’s point. That as a Christian he flagged this church and the government responsibility is to act on what the church says as in this situation what a Christian (Mr. Mutua) did.
We started a rotten Government system that has been in place since independence. A system without proper human values to advance human collective understanding for prosperity. As result we have multiple dysfunctional activities that flourish without fear. To mention just a few; Corruption in all institutions - including the Judiciary and churches, tribalism, selfishness, election malpractices, abusing religion by leaders to camouflage their ill intentions, are a way of life, and many have adopted the same, passing the vice from generation to generation. Therefore being mislead by cult leaders come easily without surprise. Those who fight to change the status quo are always demonized. It will take a while before the reality downs on us. Just wondering, why is the press bared from covering the tragedy. Coverup. Who is culpable high up in the system?
The constitution stipulates there shall be no state religion and prohibits religious discrimination. The constitution provides for freedom of religion and belief individually or in communities, including the freedom to manifest any religion through worship, practice, teaching, or observance.
We started a rotten Government system that has been in place since independence. A system without proper human values to advance human collective understanding for prosperity. As result we have multiple dysfunctional activities that flourish without fear. To mention just a few; Corruption in all institutions - including the Judiciary and churches, tribalism, selfishness, election malpractices, abusing religion by leaders to camouflage their ill intentions, are a way of life, and many have adopted the same, passing the vice from generation to generation. Therefore being mislead by cult leaders come easily without surprise. Those who fight to change the status quo are always demonized. It will take a while before the reality downs on us.
Christian's dont know how we got the bible majority literally read the bible but the bible is a book given to us by the Roman catholic n they took some Jews canonical books n translated them in the language that they knew usisomewe bible or any other religion book jisomee n approach the bible with a Jewish eye eg our african folktales hapo zamani za kale blaa n ul understand how donkeys could talk etc
@@lucyruto2008u will continue to die, your money stolen in God's name, etc, until this madness of Romans invented useless religious, imported by colonizer's to Africa, will come out of their head.
If a government has systems that work and are for the people, it would be almost impossible for fellows like this narcissist Mackenzie to exist. People would be enlightened, have their basic needs taken care of and not be as gullible as they are right now because of the poverty they are wallowing in...
Americans says that you can't regulate molarity. Informal religious sector is with us for ever...the issues all surrounded lack of respect, honesty, and reason to be alive! What will I lose if I died today? What is needed is prosperity spreading into gettos...if you can't afford a meal at home, what difference does make whether you die at or at a free forest? We have lost family as a vehicle to back each other. Family siblings are More of neighbors if not parasites...
Somebody needs to sensitize daktari that people with physical disabilities are no longer called "cripples". That is a very offensive and derogative term.
That's what we did to Jeff mwathi,we all know he did not kill himself,but again, someone somewhere decided to interfere with the investigation, and the whole nation is quiet about it,let's assume, Dj fatxo afanye kitu mbaya 10 years to come,tutajifanya hatujui??
Bobby Marley did not create the rasfarians, he just found them and eagerly looking for a leader to lead them. President triumph did not create republican radicals. He just found them ready to be led. The pastor did not create these congregation but he found them waiting to be led...
Ain't that taking advantage of people's ignorance,,for instance innocent children ,if you tell them something is wrong,coz they are innocent they will believe you
Interviewer: What are the charges Dr. Mutua: avoids answering the question and goes into a rant which concludes with "the Judiciary does not understand its role the police does not understand its role" ... He only answered the questions he wanted to... In short classic Dr Mutua knows best... Interview rating 2.5/10
the same way you "Alfred Mutua" or the high ranking ones believed in your pastors is the same way those massacred believed in their pastors. The only difference is you have enough to pay your pastor while they didn't.
Mutua is very eloquent. Role model. Grasps what he's talking about.
You guys should do a study of how Rwanda regulated churches and then have a deeper discussion on this matter. Mutua himself is not sounding deep on the matter. He is approaching it more from the aspect of his time as head of the film board.
This man Mutua has grasp of what he's doing and discussing from a very critical stand point
Yet again an incompetent throwing others under the bus
We have embraced incompetence wholeheartedly
No one should be blamed,,As a nation we have failed more than 100 innocent children,,who are dead coz of a mad man,,,God please forgive us,,when a certain family came complaining about Dr Owuor ,she was ignored,,the guy is still in her properties,, we have manyuru, he has mislead hundreds and still doing it,, are they waiting for them to be extreme and pretend to care???God bless Dr.Mutua,he has always been against this madness.
Why doesn't the gov't then deal with Ezekiel and Owuor?
Mmmmmh.... bon conversation!! Thank you
Why spice FM has not clocked 1 million views clearly shows our priorities as country are warped
Ikr ?
If Africans invested the same energy in bussines as they do in religion we would be at a different level
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Bravo 👏 👏
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Very eloquent Mutua
Even Aisha Jumwa raised the flag on Pastor Paul Makenzie but no one is talking about her
Pastor Makenzie as been sponsoring the deep state, politicians name them.
She is/was a leader...she should have swung into action not raising red flags or speaking for the sake of it...they all failed
Uhuru Kenyatta should be held responsible from 2018 .former NIS Director, DCI Director, etc. Should be arrested.
To Mr Mutual i saw another way people in the Bar drinking and Worshing New way of like a church with DJ in Tv what's your suggestions there? Yet is also in public TVs
The question CT is asking is relevant. Good churches call out false teachers, but churches don’t have a way to enforce its regulations hence Mr. Mutua’s point. That as a Christian he flagged this church and the government responsibility is to act on what the church says as in this situation what a Christian (Mr. Mutua) did.
no one talks about religion all of them bt it all comes back to you to believe or not theres a difference between God n religion
We started a rotten Government system that has been in place since independence. A system without proper human values to advance human collective understanding for prosperity. As result we have multiple dysfunctional activities that flourish without fear. To mention just a few; Corruption in all institutions - including the Judiciary and churches, tribalism, selfishness, election malpractices, abusing religion by leaders to camouflage their ill intentions, are a way of life, and many have adopted the same, passing the vice from generation to generation. Therefore being mislead by cult leaders come easily without surprise. Those who fight to change the status quo are always demonized. It will take a while before the reality downs on us. Just wondering, why is the press bared from covering the tragedy. Coverup. Who is culpable high up in the system?
Regulate this nonsensical churches
This guy is sharp
The constitution stipulates there shall be no state religion and prohibits religious discrimination. The constitution provides for freedom of religion and belief individually or in communities, including the freedom to manifest any religion through worship, practice, teaching, or observance.
It's the government, starting from the chief,we even have jaduon'g gueng English has disappeared.When are we going to be serious in Kenya?
We started a rotten Government system that has been in place since independence. A system without proper human values to advance human collective understanding for prosperity. As result we have multiple dysfunctional activities that flourish without fear. To mention just a few; Corruption in all institutions - including the Judiciary and churches, tribalism, selfishness, election malpractices, abusing religion by leaders to camouflage their ill intentions, are a way of life, and many have adopted the same, passing the vice from generation to generation. Therefore being mislead by cult leaders come easily without surprise. Those who fight to change the status quo are always demonized. It will take a while before the reality downs on us.
@@johnadiema2622 true
@@markgeorge7426 Thank you.
Christian's dont know how we got the bible majority literally read the bible but the bible is a book given to us by the Roman catholic n they took some Jews canonical books n translated them in the language that they knew usisomewe bible or any other religion book jisomee n approach the bible with a Jewish eye eg our african folktales hapo zamani za kale blaa n ul understand how donkeys could talk etc
So are you supporting what these murder has done
And when we talk against religion, we are called all names
@@lucyruto2008u will continue to die, your money stolen in God's name, etc, until this madness of Romans invented useless religious, imported by colonizer's to Africa, will come out of their head.
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Invoking law is one of the problem, common sense don't apply in law, technicality does, even with this massacre, law will/might let go on technicality
If a government has systems that work and are for the people, it would be almost impossible for fellows like this narcissist Mackenzie to exist. People would be enlightened, have their basic needs taken care of and not be as gullible as they are right now because of the poverty they are wallowing in...
True, we are reaping from the bitter fruits of corruption.
Just close this nonsensical churches we don't need to hear pastor
Americans says that you can't regulate molarity. Informal religious sector is with us for ever...the issues all surrounded lack of respect, honesty, and reason to be alive! What will I lose if I died today? What is needed is prosperity spreading into gettos...if you can't afford a meal at home, what difference does make whether you die at or at a free forest? We have lost family as a vehicle to back each other. Family siblings are More of neighbors if not parasites...
The president who can't be president cox politics means it can't happen
Somebody needs to sensitize daktari that people with physical disabilities are no longer called "cripples". That is a very offensive and derogative term.
Could interviewers on this matter and guest also confirm they are not members of a cult. Unpopular comment.
Kenya police need training. The Churches springing everyday need controll.
That's what we did to Jeff mwathi,we all know he did not kill himself,but again, someone somewhere decided to interfere with the investigation, and the whole nation is quiet about it,let's assume, Dj fatxo afanye kitu mbaya 10 years to come,tutajifanya hatujui??
Bobby Marley did not create the rasfarians, he just found them and eagerly looking for a leader to lead them. President triumph did not create republican radicals. He just found them ready to be led. The pastor did not create these congregation but he found them waiting to be led...
Ain't that taking advantage of people's ignorance,,for instance innocent children ,if you tell them something is wrong,coz they are innocent they will believe you
Interviewer: What are the charges
Dr. Mutua: avoids answering the question and goes into a rant which concludes with "the Judiciary does not understand its role the police does not understand its role" ...
He only answered the questions he wanted to...
In short classic Dr Mutua knows best...
Interview rating 2.5/10
the same way you "Alfred Mutua" or the high ranking ones believed in your pastors is the same way those massacred believed in their pastors. The only difference is you have enough to pay your pastor while they didn't.
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It comes a time when man has to give up his hair & join the baldies. This is the most ridiculous hairline in Kenyan history. 🤣😂🤣