Is It Worth It To Buy Lord Of The Rings...Again? A Magic: The Gathering Holiday Scene Box Review
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Personally, i think these are worse than the hobbit movies, as at least they were good to watch, and you could come out having watched them relatively pleased with how much of the lore they included in them. These cards however, leave a sour taste in my mouth and i would prefer not to buy them considering they have been aware of the foil curling issues and bad QC of the last few sets and should really do better if they want us to keep purchasing $300 packs instead of paying rent or medical bills.
Please Note: I misspoke when describing the Scene Boxes as containing 6 cards, 1 of them "new." All 6 cards are new, but I felt only one per box had any notable value/function. The language should have been "There's only 1 new card of the 6 of any note" but got twisted to "There's only 1 new card of the 6" which obviously is incorrect. While this of course does not change the evaluation, prices, or final grade, I did want to acknowledge the error. I believe we accidentally used a practice draft of the audio at those 2 sections which is how we missed it in editing.
Sure we've had one booster box, but what about second booster box?
clever lil hobbities
😂
I think he means to say that we only have play booster boxes from now on.
Are we able to up vote this for best lore related comment?
Lmao nice
I over heard a conversation at my lgs where one of the clerks was to a customer and mention how that the majority of the scene boxes they had sold had been to people who had never played magic and just wanted them as a lotr collectible. I very much see this being a thing moving forward with universes beyond, where items are made more with collectors in mind who may never even play magic. As the business people would see it, its a way to sell a magic product to people who would never by magic. Long how this will effect the game I don’t really know, but needless to say, if there is short term profit to be had there WILL be short term profit made.
I think that's actually a reasonably sound idea to attract that type of crowd, but they should make the quality of the physical product not suck.
Yup, I never played magic before. Bought all the LOTR precons and a collector booster box. Also picked up all 4 scene boxes. I'm done with magic 🤣🤣
@@pablo7336 good for you fam. Live your best life.
@@TheAverageGuyTAG The outer box is fine so 95% of the costumers would never see the real quality of the product.
That’s quite anecdotal and probably not the case. Most people buying these play Magic.
That is a silly amount of packaging on those scene packs. I can't express how disappointed I'd be if someone bought me a big ol' box of what I thought was a premium magic the gathering present only to find 6 cards and three packs inside.
Welcome to the Premium Collector (TM) MTG experience. Big packaging, big prices, and small products
First time? Lol
I wish they would bring back the big holiday boxes they had back in the day. I have two Khans of Tharkir holiday boxes and they're such a good storage solution. Good size and shape, looks nice, perfectly acceptable build quality. I honestly just want wizards to make these boxes again. (One of my boxes I bought second hand because I needed more card storage space)
My scene box sets were in near mint condition over all. I am thankful. Im a huge LOTR fan and this product being"Cheaper" really helped me out. I hope you all got as good of a condition of this product as I did.
I feel like I’m missing something. Aren’t ALL the scene cards original designs?
I'm pretty sure all six of each of the scene cards are brand new and mechanically unique.
Yes they are. They can also be found in the new collector booster packs that he mentioned at the beginning of the video.
If you are still confused, you might be mixing up the beginning of the video where he is talking about new alt art reprints in the collector boosters that are just reskins of old cards.
Correct: all 24 scene cards are new original mechanically unique designs. This is a mistake in the video.
I’ve seen them go for over 40 bucks in big stores and set booster packs are more than 5
Set boosters are $6.50, not sure why he would be off on that. That’s $4.50 he omitted from the value per box, which makes a significant difference.
If you bought one: good advice, the box look better on shelf than… a frame.
6:01 I love to how 4 of something is a play set to the professor
When the video dissing your product is better quality than the product itself.
I came for the jokes, I stayed for your excellent opinions on the Hobbit movies.
I don't buy new MTG but I enjoy these videos, because your fun to watch. Its fun to buy MTG now that its getting cheap again! Thanks for your videos, they are always relaxing.
I would love to see a secret lair with all of the nozghul. "For normal price!"...
Your collector booster box giveaway stream is on my birthday!!! 🎉
Please, Make a video about ixalan pre cons. I love your videos. A hug from Brazil/Ireland
All you need to know is go look at single prices of the first scene boxes in this set. You can get them all as singles from TCG for 5-10 dollars total.
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but you can also get the cards that exist in these packs from the collector booster packs.
Are you talking about the original scene boxes? If so, you would need to omit the box with the one ring. This set of boxes has exclusive releases (all the legendary creatures) that do not have alternate prints in standard set boosters, not to mention they are objectively better cards than Frodo, Faramir, Pippin, etc. While they are similar products, I don’t think you claim will last the test of time by any measure.
They are available in the collector boosters, but those packs are even more expensive lol so other than the fact there will just be more of these cards in circulation beyond the scan boxes, I don’t think that changes the price all that much either.
@@snowmanO07 yes the original scene boxes. Yes the one ring (orcish bowmaster, Aragon the Uniter, and last March of the ents as well) definitely have value. But you can get almost all the other scene cards for a quarter or less, some at a dollar or 2. What I was saying is you can get the original scene cards for less than the prices of these boxes. Just my opinion but you can select the one with the one ring and bowmaster then just get singles of the rest and save money.
Yes, i love Pringles
My bros and I split a collector box and it was nice, the foiling was great and I cracked three new One Ring cards from my 4 packs. I bought the scene boxes as a Xmas gifts for my bros and now debating if I just give them out rn lmao. Also when I ordered them I thought it was 6 boosters, not 3 :/
Well, Post Malone did say we're running in circles 😂😂
The special edition boxes are cooler than the first release in my opinion because all or at least many of the great commander cards from the commander decks are available in foil in the special edition collector packs. I would have probably skipped the first collector boxes for this second release if i would have known, but that also depends on if you like the scroll frame, which i do.
Thanks for the great review and the warning!
great video! Not enough UA-cam ads, tho
What are your thoughts on the rakshasa not being cats anymore? Why? I wanted a cat tribal for sultai!
I rather want to see another set of starter kit to compliment the original. The jumpstart vol2 is too similar to vol1 that doesn't make sense to get.
I'd call this holiday release an addendum to the original set rather than a re release or sequel
Idk why Wizards didnt just release a Hobbit Set. Would've loved to make a deck around Thorin and company
Aragorn was the only one worth it for me personally, getting the single I wanted (Legolas Quick Reflexes is sitting pretty in my deck) and a little bit of gambling with the set boosters… The other boxes are a nope for me. That single and the set booster packs were around the same price as buying the single and the three packs. I wish the other boxes held that same value
6:20 I'm not familiar to WhatNot but I tried creating an account with the invite link and it seems it's not worldwide there are only 7 countries on the list.
is the stream and the giveaway only for those countries too?
The Prof flying to Europa and me about to miss it makes me more sad than any of the low value LOTR products :( :( :(
Hey, i just grabbed one of the "Flight of the Witch King" boxes for $30, so equal value right? 🤣
Whoa good timing to open youtube
Im a little confused. Your mentioning that there is only one “new” card in each scene. However I don’t remember seeing any of the other cards in the scenes in any other product, and I was very invested in the original LOTR sets
Prof. is mistaken, all 6 cards in each box are new designs.
Hey, noob question... if I buy this (holiday special) box, will it have a code for MTGArena? Basically, I'll have a copy of it for MTGA??
hey guys i am just now looking to buy some precon commander deck and since i am new to tihs i don know what should i buy as a first deck that is good to play and possibly upgrade later. i am looking currently at innistrad ( strefan or milisicen ) and lathril deck so any advice or even if Pof can see this and help anyhow thanks i advance
Is it me or are people sleeping on the elf lord with squad from the Galadriel box? It’s the whole reason I bought one.
I can't wait to add Gimli's Reckless Might to my EDH cube. Even though a fight effect in red is a color pie break, it'll perfectly slot into the gruul stompy archetype there
Red has plenty of fight effects. Red can even make your opponents creatures fight each other, which green can't do.
To be a color pie break the effect has to undermine a color's weakness, so even if fight effects weren't normal for red, dealing damage to a creature is pretty well within its wheelhouse.
Wizards makes everything so limited to drive FOMO. My LGS was going to sell out, so I grabbed these before doing my due diligence.
The FOMO got me and I love the scene cards, so ordered the set. Most regretful Magic sealed product purchase I've ever made - the quality of the foiling and image quality is horrible on these cards - so I can't even enjoy them as I wanted let alone their value is going to crash and burn.
Hello
But professor, I had great pack pulls! Doesn't that make it worth it?
The only way to get Hasbro to listen is to stop buying every new release they put out. Don't feed the disease.
Scene boxes cost 39.99 at Target.
Disappointment is an accurate description. I was so excited for these and opening those washed out foils was just sad. I wish there had been a non foil option on the set.
There are nonfoil versions of the scene cards, but you can only find them in Collector Boosters. I learned this *after* I got the Galadriel Scene Box, so that really annoyed me.
@@blaze556922can we not do the blaming fans for being excited about things they're fans of? I understand the frustrations, but it really doesn't do anything.
Edit: nevermind, I've seen some of your other comments and you're just kind of a dick, so I'm not saying please.
Same.
I feel strange also the card inside the set booster, looks so “fake”! and for some strange reason there were a lot of same cards!
Yea but the collector packs are too expensive tbh compared to the normal packs
I miss the old big holiday boxes. Perfect for cube and even came with dividers and stickers!
Wait, you'd use the product to PLAY the card game? Wizards doesn't understand, please explain why you don't just want printed cardboard cluttering your house.
Same here! I used them for storing my bulk cards until I outgrew the few I had and couldn't get any more (without paying crazy secondary market price). Now they have my fancy Basics in them.
I just reinforced mine a bit and then they worked fine. Wasn't difficult.
wow that's a big box, there must be so many cards in there
I picked up one of the scene boxes and the 6 scene related cards were so warped and curled they were not only completely unusable as game pieces, but also had no chance of standing in the cardboard frame to display (if someone actually wanted to do that…)
Everything I buy a $35 box of cards from the stores around here and keep having to toss 15 foil lands for the same reason
This seems to be really common occurance. Every picture I've seen has had the foils horribly curled.
bro grow up and put a couple of dictionaries on top for a day or two. they are useable and you can problem solve im sure. it does suck that we HAVE to do this and the cards should be of a higher quality but dont act like you cant use em
Thanks for wasting your money so we don't have to. Your doin good kid
@@mr.joesterr5359no, this is unacceptable. It's unacceptable that they're selling product you cannot use without a process like this just because WotC wants to save a pretty penny on card manufacturers
Not going to lie, my obsession with LOTR brought my attention to these MTG cards and when I bought the first few packs, I found your channel. Now im gathering cards and organizing separate decks for me and my kids to play with. Your vibes kept me coming back to the channel so if not for these LOTR cards, i wouldnt even be here or learning to play MTG hahaha. I love all the videos Professor, thanks for all the hard work you do. You deserve every bit of success!
I’m on the same journey myself, came for the LOTR stayed for the MTG
Glad there’s others just like me !
Hey add me to that list I'm obsessed with LOTR always knew about magic and now because of the professor and lord of the rings I'm happily learning and g we thing into magic me and my little brother both have decks we built out of lotr cards
Prof you nailed that opening bit thanks for that.
Aren't all these cards original designs?
Oh yeah… if you really really really like LOTR and had a recent brain injury that made you forget you already bought it.
Those boxes are being sold for $34? My Walmart is selling them for $47.99, and I was laughing my head off thinking anyone would ever pay that much for them.
They don't sell they just get stolen
I enjoy watching the Prof hitting product boxes and throwing them around 😂
My LGS is selling these for $40. Bought one and thankfully pulled a foil Orcish Bowmasters from one of the packs to get my value back. Also where is Prof basing the pack value from? Set boosters run $8-9 wherever I see them.
After all this time, The Prof's comedic timing and charm is still ON POINT!
It's getting even better with the experience :-)
I saw these going for $50 at my Walmart, definitely buy singles!
I have 20 year old pokemon foils that look 100x better than anything I've ever seen in MTG. Its not some secret technique, it would just cost them a tiny fraction more money so we get trash instead because people still buy it.
My local LGS opened all of the scene boxes and just sold the 24 singles (+art cards) for a fraction of the box price
Howd they profit on that 🤣
When those happy customers come back, there's the profit
What legends, nice
@@peanutmans0 well basically they still can sell the set boosters from the box, they also said they needed the space for ixalan
@@winkelfilms keep supporting that shop 🤘🤘🤘
This was actually a Pringles Universes Beyond.
"LOTR was the biggest product of the year, but we moved on." The most poignant takeaway from this whole video, in my opinion.
Am I missing something, or is he saying only one of the cards in each scene box is original design? Aren’t all six in each box original?
Yeah, I'm having difficulty understanding why one card is green with a star in the list, all six cards in each set are new designs that weren't printed in LTR or LTC already?
The Hobbit movies analogy was the icing on this video cake
What are you talking about with "One new card design per scene box?"
All 6 in each box are new designs that did not appear in the original launch of the set. They might not be valuable, but they are definitely new.
I got a ton of poor cuts and Pringles in my boxes. Worst of all, they missed an entire ink layer on my Galadriel set or something. I can barely make out the artwork and only if I shimmer it in direct light. Classic WotC, make a great product then ride those coattails into the ground.
11:33 - "We did Lord of the Rings! It was the biggest event of the year!"
A Universes Beyond set being bigger than the end of the Phyrexians says quite a bit about the state of Magic right now.
I don't know about that. Lotd of the rings is a MASSIVE IP, so it had a pull from lord of the rings collectors and mtg players. Regardless of the state of mtg, lord of the rings was set up for success. Unless you mean how mtg is probably on a very good place because of how incredibly well lord of the rings sold, but I don't think that was your implication.
To be fair lotr is the biggest fantasy IP, it was expected that it would be the biggest set in magic history (so far)
Just posting for the sake of a PSA: Nonfoil versions of the Scene cards do exist, but you can only find them in Collector Boosters.
Comparing this to The Hobbit movies? A chance to dust off one of my old favorites:
The Hobbit: An Unnecessary Trilogy
Picked a set of these up online for €25 a piece, including shipping. NOBODY wants these at rrp, it's amazing. €25 is great, but no way would I pay €35+ for them.
The foils are bad 😂
I purchased the Aragorn at Helm’s Deep box at launch.
I didn't experience any kvalite problems with the cards, but!
The so called display rake broke apart almost as soon as i tried it out. Luckily for me I was planing on displaying the art cards in a picture frame anyway.
For comparison with other tcg's Yugioh is puting out a 80 card reprint set, thats all foil. And making a lot of staples buget options
Yeah, but Konami made S:P Little Night a $100 secret overseas when it was a rare in Japan at about $10
if they want us to stay on one magic release for this long, they should slow down releases, not add more
make a compelling limited environment that people will want to play 3 months from release, don't just release another set 3 months later
@TolarianCommunityCollege At what time will you be running the giveaway on your WhatNot stream? I believe you said Wednesday, Nov. 22nd but did not say the time. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving. You are appreciated.
You should be happy with the reprints in the collector boxes!!! You like "GAME PIECES" This is what you get when you want cards to be cheap!
I wish you would share the “buy” and “sell” price of these cards. I want a few of these singles, and was disappointed in the box’s value through your video. Then I realized buying the singles actually adds up quite a bite, I just can’t SELL the cards to get the value.
These boxes definitely exceed their value, you just won’t make a profit off of ripping and selling them back. But what product would? I would almost always expect their inherent value to exceed the purchase price, but their sell value to be close to or less than the purchase price.
I bought the Gandalf scene and got lucky pulling an orcish bowmasters and a nazgul from the three packs, but I would not recommend getting it. If you don't pull an orcish bowmasters it isn't worth it. The packs should have been collector packs or there should have been 6-8 of them.
Always love these honest reviews professor!
Glad you like them!
@@blaze556922 I crossed a couple of your comments before this one. I go trough some rough times in the past weeks and it is hard for me to stay positive. But one thing I learned overtime is that spreading my negativity on social media was just worsening my situation and mental health. I read more YT comments than I should, but I remember years ago seeing someone named Blaze commenting on YT videos and giving their positive views to counterargue with people that were bashing in the comments. I don't know if you are the same person. Wishing you great hollidays and happiness in these diffuclt times!
@@blaze556922 do your critical thinking skills always fail when you go to comment or is this the first time?…
the original LOTR MTG set was motivated by pure profit too, prof. what with the blacksploitation and such. please dont compare the original movies to that set.
Bought all 4 and wish I hadn't, all scene cards curled and I bought for play. Do not waste your money on such poor quality control from wizard. It's a shame.
Why is urborg 5 dollars?
Is swampwalk/first strike really worth the difference between a basic land and 5 dollars?
Newer player btw.
I am so disappointed in this product. I pre ordered and the foil just looks bad. Being burned on quality on this and some secret lairs this year, I really do not want to pre buy anything from Wizards again
LOL.. wish I had watched this before pre-ordering the set.
It’s not as bad as he makes it. With a little bit of fact checking, he is way off! Set booster packs are $6.50 not $5, so there’s $4.50 of value back to each box. And then he listed the “sell” price for singles, not the buying price. Gandalf is “selling” to an LGS for $5 like he said in the video, but to purchase the single it is going for $15! Way more value in these boxes than he suggests.
Love yah and your videos but cannot stand Whatnot due to the constant server and connection issues it has. Tried to join multiple times for giveaways and such and always have issues with it and never get to even sniff a chance at any of this. So alas I have given up trying Professor. Sorry
*bill murray voice*
"Well, it's LOTR release day, again"
My lgs tried to presale them for 80 euro and dropped the prices now to around 35 euro after nobody bought a single one of them. It´s hilarious.
Why do you keep saying only one of the six cards is a new design?? They're all new, aren't they?
Yes, it was very lack luster. However I did get a foil Orcish Bowmaster. 😏
"JUST WAIT A SECOND, IXALAN!" 😂💀
These are just glorified-shrinkflated set bundles. 😒
Yeah, these are weird and not a great deal. I hope I win that vampire deck.....
the greg and tim hildebrandt art in the collectors boosters is absolutely beautiful, but i believe all (or definitely some) isnt even original for this set but existing art from the 80s. paying a premium for a licensed product with art wotc didnt even commission is a bit 🙃
i would love to see art of this quality in standard sets tho. its frusterating to me all these premium supplemental (and expensive!) sets get all the incredible classic fantasy art.
Basically Aftermath for LOTR
I really wish i hadnt wasted 200$ on these, everyone in my game store was buying them for 50$ each and i thought they were worth it not i feel like shouldve saved that money to get a box of ixilan
When is the last time you were stoked to open a foil?
I personally really like the new lotr collectors box because I just got into the game and missed the original release. I really like the scroll borders and the new “poster cards”. Still won’t be buying it until the price drops a little because 300 is a little much.
These feel like an experiment to mix secret lair type products with collector bosters, maybe we'll see something similar for modern horizons 3
Completely unnecessary is exactly how I feel
I love how he doesnt even know that all of them are new designs.
I did not appreciate the curling with the foils however I do love the scenes and so I picked them up. I kind of wish I got the non foil singles instead