Currently a 7.4 handicap, got there on my own. Would I love to take lessons? YES. But for a 1 hour lesson I could pay for 3 rounds of golf, and there's a chance the coach isn't a good fit so there's also a risk. If you're a smart person, you can use common sense and filter the good and bad instructors on UA-cam. There's a few guys that I watch and they have really helped improve my game. It's really up to the golfer to get out and practice and play more.
@@torchristianbirkeland685 Professionals are playing golf for their livelihood, I'm playing golf for fun. People can very much improve from UA-cam golf instruction, it will just take longer than having a coach standing beside you.
Interesting thing Luke said was on putting I never really practiced it and have always been pretty good at it. Speed is key. PLEASE DO ANOTHER VIDEO TOGETHER!!!!!!
All I want is a simple, repeatable golf swing. Something like turn back, turn through. Something that allows me to hit the middle of the clubface consistently. Does it really take a 17 step program to do that?
@@marybetheby5184 I have a book from Jim Hardy talking about swing planes and how to decide which swing, one plane or two plane swing, to use, which is pretty good to.
Bobby Jones went quite inside on the backswing, then went on top of that plane on the downswing WHILE STILL HAVING AN INSIDE TO OUT CLUB PATH AT IMPACT. Same with Sam Snead.
Re: Shop Shape: I have been told I have no business shaping shots as a 10 handicap. But, it’s fun as hell. And more importantly, if gives me a visual goal for the shot that fits the hole/situation, and that takes me out of my head out of all the other noise. Which often ends up being a cool shot. I dunno. 🤷♂️
It would be interesting to get a lesson. I’m 43 and just started golf 5 months ago and started with a round of 108. I’m now a 4.6 handicap. Did it all on my own
Re: Ryp Stick shout out: I trained with them off season. And it took my average drive from 230s to the 260s. I’ll have one or two 290-300 bombs in a round. At 44yo, that’s a lot of fun.
The club is not a hammer and the ball is not a nail BUT how you would use a hammer with a 3 foot long handle to hit a nail at floor level is a case study. Hogan's "waiter's tray" position at the top of the backswing looks similar. Moe Norman's address having close to impact orientation takes advantage of repeatability. Optimal and efficient are words that are applications of scientific technique. Having the club face square to line at impact is an art.
The word matchups is said a lot in the this video. Most coaches don’t address or even mention finding “YOUR” matchups. Learn some lessons for practice in a video with no instructions. Lol
Apart from very basic principles, onlne instruction is useless. Everyone's body and swing are unique and you need someone on the range (preferably the course) with you. I'd say 'the low point of the swing is target sde of the ball' is just about the only thing that's a universal truth - and obviously that's not true of driver and maybe 3 wood off the tee. Would love to know if anyone has others - a thought that is true for every singke golfer on the planet?
Tony is super negative and is out of touch with the golf community. how can you be a golf podcaster and hate watching golf! best episode in a long time. thank you!
@JohnnyBagvieGolf If the person want to pay for your services that is their choice. So you're telling me just because someone can pass the PAT by shooting a pair of 79s on an easy course that means they are experts? Lol
@@JohnnyBagvieGolf what a stupid thing to say. Just about every area in life there is a skilled unqualified person charging someone for training. Whether it's your teenage neighbor teaching software engineering to someone or the old guy down the road teaching welding to someone.
Tony is the best dose of reality on any golf podcast, he doesn't fake it, he brings it, just the nuts and bolts, my goodness that's special
Currently a 7.4 handicap, got there on my own. Would I love to take lessons? YES.
But for a 1 hour lesson I could pay for 3 rounds of golf, and there's a chance the coach isn't a good fit so there's also a risk.
If you're a smart person, you can use common sense and filter the good and bad instructors on UA-cam.
There's a few guys that I watch and they have really helped improve my game. It's really up to the golfer to get out and practice and play more.
Yes. That's why no professionals uses coaches in any shape or form. They just "filter" the good and bad instructors on UA-cam. 🙄
@@torchristianbirkeland685 Professionals are playing golf for their livelihood, I'm playing golf for fun. People can very much improve from UA-cam golf instruction, it will just take longer than having a coach standing beside you.
Agreed. Dan grieve has helped my short game and AMG and MyTPI for the long game.
Interesting thing Luke said was on putting I never really practiced it and have always been pretty good at it. Speed is key. PLEASE DO ANOTHER VIDEO TOGETHER!!!!!!
All I want is a simple, repeatable golf swing. Something like turn back, turn through. Something that allows me to hit the middle of the clubface consistently. Does it really take a 17 step program to do that?
At least 17 if not 170! Just because it looks simple it doesn't mean it's easy to achieve - unless you're one of the lucky ones
I found Graves Golf does that for me with the Single Plane Swing. Worth a look.
@@marybetheby5184 I have a book from Jim Hardy talking about swing planes and how to decide which swing, one plane or two plane swing, to use, which is pretty good to.
Bobby Jones went quite inside on the backswing, then went on top of that plane on the downswing WHILE STILL HAVING AN INSIDE TO OUT CLUB PATH AT IMPACT. Same with Sam Snead.
Interesting thing Luke said was on putting I never really practiced it and have always been pretty good at it. Speed is key.
Re: Shop Shape: I have been told I have no business shaping shots as a 10 handicap. But, it’s fun as hell. And more importantly, if gives me a visual goal for the shot that fits the hole/situation, and that takes me out of my head out of all the other noise. Which often ends up being a cool shot. I dunno. 🤷♂️
It’s almost like you need a golf degree in order to learn how to swing the club.😂😂😂
Maybe not to learn how to swing the club, but there's an argument to be made that you might need one to teach others how to do so
It would be interesting to get a lesson. I’m 43 and just started golf 5 months ago and started with a round of 108. I’m now a 4.6 handicap. Did it all on my own
Re: Ryp Stick shout out: I trained with them off season. And it took my average drive from 230s to the 260s. I’ll have one or two 290-300 bombs in a round. At 44yo, that’s a lot of fun.
Gary Martin Golf: he took 10 grams off his driver head and snap-hooked everything low left. Sometimes it's not the swing.
PLEASE make more short form content video wise. They’re great. I don’t have time for podcasts :((((
Great Mn. Guy!
Better show Wo Tony doesn't like PGA LIV golf
Did you stroke?
The club is not a hammer and the ball is not a nail BUT how you would use a hammer with a 3 foot long handle to hit a nail at floor level is a case study. Hogan's "waiter's tray" position at the top of the backswing looks similar. Moe Norman's address having close to impact orientation takes advantage of repeatability. Optimal and efficient are words that are applications of scientific technique. Having the club face square to line at impact is an art.
Chris gets flippy at impact it looks like. I’ve been working on it myself.
Yes, he certainly does! It will be super interesting to document progress as we go. I'll provide updates accordingly.
Host, kindly train yourself to ask concise, direct, non-rambling questions.
The word matchups is said a lot in the this video. Most coaches don’t address or even mention finding “YOUR” matchups.
Learn some lessons for practice in a video with no instructions. Lol
It would nice to hear more from Luke. Chris, quit the babbling . Ask the questions concisely and let him talk.
Apart from very basic principles, onlne instruction is useless. Everyone's body and swing are unique and you need someone on the range (preferably the course) with you. I'd say 'the low point of the swing is target sde of the ball' is just about the only thing that's a universal truth - and obviously that's not true of driver and maybe 3 wood off the tee. Would love to know if anyone has others - a thought that is true for every singke golfer on the planet?
Tony is super negative and is out of touch with the golf community. how can you be a golf podcaster and hate watching golf! best episode in a long time. thank you!
Most golfers dont watch golf, it's mostly boring AF, which is why the ratings are terrible. They watch football like normal people.
You shouldn't need qualifications to teach golf lessons. If people want to take lessons from you that's their choice.
Do you have an example of another area of life where you paid for someone's training, where the trainer didn't have qualifications?
@JohnnyBagvieGolf If the person want to pay for your services that is their choice. So you're telling me just because someone can pass the PAT by shooting a pair of 79s on an easy course that means they are experts? Lol
@@FGrecoJR way to simultaneously dodge my question and put words in my mouth.
@@JohnnyBagvieGolf what a stupid thing to say. Just about every area in life there is a skilled unqualified person charging someone for training. Whether it's your teenage neighbor teaching software engineering to someone or the old guy down the road teaching welding to someone.
‘Top Gun’ I have need for Speed🏌️ great video very insightful, Swing faster NOT Harder!