Kaylo Shearer I finished the first half of Michigan with it, and the Fleestar. The second half was dominated by some of the Russian trucks, and the Paystar.
I gotta hand it to you. The CAT is a handsome looking brute like some other trucks. But the old timer still got some beef to pull tasks sent straight from the underworld.
Yes. I have been using the Western since I got it in Michigan. Now being in Alaska the only truck that can really beat it is the tayga king but it is in a different class!
@@mr.butterworth They probably don't care too much. It's not a truck designed for offroad use and on road it did perform better then the western star. CAT's main focus is construction/earth moving vehicles which means they are probably quite happy with the performance of the 745C (basically unstoppable) and can overlook the other vehicles issues.
@@digitalcamaro9708 Most of the US trucks the devs put into the games are underwhelming. 80-90% of the US heavy trucks are designed for paved/unpaved roads. Navistar 5000, Oshkosh M1070 and M911 are heavy equipment transports. They can handle some unusual road conditions but they aren't meant for offroad use. The M520 Goer manufactured by CAT or the HEMTT or LVSR by Oshkosh would have made for a better showing.
The Western Star is by far my absolute favorite in the game from the looks and from the capability. It served me well from the moment I rescued it from the Smithville dam and remains in my fleet with good memories. It helped in the most difficult missions from Michigan to Russia and never became stuck even with the extra large trailers. I think without the raised suspension the CAT is pretty useless and rather expensive. I would much rather have the Fleetstar instead of the CAT.
From my experience the Fleetstar is super light in the front. I always find myself doing wheelies or not being able to get grip on the front tires to steer. It’s a very good truck imo just pretty front light
The CAT's rear suspension has been defunct since launch, so it's at a disadvantage because it's constantly dragging it's frame on the ground. It's basically a lawn ornament.
I use it for trailers but you are right it really struggles with sharp angels it needs active suspension one because it has air bags and all trucks and raise themselves irl
It's not defunct. It's a walking beam suspension exactly as we find on the ZikZ 605R. The result is good stability as it doesn't store up a huge amount of energy like the springs on the 4964, and good tyre contact as the suspension is literally incapable of holding a wheel off the ground (this is by design), but also poor ground clearance as the suspension has zero travel. IRL, the CT680 didn't survive because it was very uncomfortable precisely because of the lack of suspension travel.
The cat has no suspension in the rear. Watch it’s mr. lone wolfs review. The results are the same but he explores more testing and gives you a deep understanding of a truck. This video is amazing tho keep up the good work!
It is the game fault, the game uses more complex statistics but those are never shown to the user, which is extremely retard UI design, in fact the CAT with UOD ll can plow through any terrain, since it weights nothing, it nevers sinks with those tires.
@@juanca2807 UOD II are the best traction offroad tires. In fact for mud the UOD II / OHD I (1.9) are almost as good as the MHS I (2.0) that is available on most offroad and heavy class vehicles The chained tires have something like 1.3. Yes, the game UI is quite badly designed, as there are sufficient differences between tires of the same class
@@roberts.wilson1848 Yes I know, also the P16 stock wheels have the best mud/sustance coefficient, because "reasons". The UI is just a bunch of standard fixed labels, the game will be updated but really slow. I think in 1 year this will be a pretty good game actually, sad for everyone "beta testing".
Love the comparison vids! The WWS is probably my favorite so far - always seems to get the job done! Usually it's my crane truck as is goes everywhere, decent fuel economy and is very stable.
WWS 4964 all the way because the cat has no lift or a rear suspension and the fact you gotta get to rank 12 to unlock it and the WWS has that c l a s s i c mudrunner horn
Great job mate. I bought the CAT used it for a few contracts then sold it. The western star I used for most of Michigan as a semi. Its so wide and stable plus it pulls well for its size.
The cat is not terrible. I have found that there is 1 front bumper that improves the approach angle significantly. With that installed i havent had too many issues with the cat. I wll say that the livery for the western star beats any of the colors on the cat though.
I had intended to use the white western star in place of the fleet star since they are the same length but for whatever reason the white can't have a crane, flatbed, and pull a trailer like the fleetstar
White western star is good for hevy Crane and resuce and transport is fast and agile flestar f2070a is my favorite truck with upgrades this truck is very Good in the mishigan and alaska Caterpiar Ct 680 is good truck for easy tasks and light transport
@Daria Janusz the Fleetstar is a good all-purpose rig, although the frame is a little undersized for the heavy crane making it on the tipsy side with that add-on. And as a tractor the front wheels are in the air half the time, but it is a good truck.
I vote Western. Was the most dependable truck while working in Michigan. Only other truck I used was Kodiak either for manually loading cargo or fuel and repair Western Star.
got some request for some videos: Navistar 5000 vs frieghtliner M91A1 loadstar 1700 vs Tuz Warthog (cos they look similar) Dan 96320 vs Pacific P12 Great video man!
@CT-1409 the Navistar International vs. Freightliner matchup will be fun to see. That Freightliner is very short too, and the 5000MV a longish sleeper cab, so the contrast will be interesting.
Intersting compartion. For me CAT was good on roads of Alaska with chains. WHITE was pefect in mud, but on hard road I suffered of it`s gearbox - not my style at all.
Yeah I love the western star too I have both in my garage and use them both but the western star did get me through michagan and alaska and I still use it in Russia too
Its really weird, in the garage it said S+, it was only when he showed the "maxxed" stats that it went down to A. I think he used the wrong image for the new stats.
Now that you've tested this, try comparing the WWS to the Voron D53233. According to the store page, the Voron is actually a Heavy Duty truck disguised as an Offroad class. Many of the Russian vehicles are actually members of different vehicle classes than what's listed, as far as their function/performance goes.
Western Star. The mud pretty much cinched it for me. The wider chassis also makes it more stable. The higher ground clearance is also appreciated. On a sidenote, did you know that you can choose what kinds of ads appear in your videos, and how often? Just saying, because I got five Raid ads on this video. And before anyone decides to be a smartass and tell me to get an ad blocker, I do have one. Keeping the ads on and giving them the clicks is just my way of supporting the creators.
Caterpilar is good sometimes but the white western star can do anything in any region even in the kola peninsula where the ice is breaking, in addition the white western star has high suspensions.
I love the the Cat it looks good and Ive had both it and the WWS bound up in the russian quarry and the Cat wasnt give in even in High range and the WWS said nope im done
I don't know...maybe I'll if there're some interesting mods.....Also this new method of downloading mods is kinda slow for me...sometimes it just stuck at downloading.
@@EdwardNigma950 It's like it's not utilizing full bandwidth...unlike steam where mods were downloaded in launcher itself at full network bandwidth....I'll try deleting mods folder...wish they improve this system soon
@@SD1ONE Don't think that they will, but, there is a huge amount of very-very good mods, cause they are made with attention to details, I can give you my fav list of mods, if you want.
I prefer the Cat because of the looks and it having helped me thru Alaska, it feels like it gose on longer as well, but it the cat doesn't have a raised, nor a rear suspension.
heavies arу special machines, with biggest sizes and lack of most addons. Offroad ones often come with always on diff lock and AWD, also best of them can be fitted with mud tires, while heavy duty have only offroad ones and never have always on difflock/ AWD
@@vladvulcan Well yes, but if you look on american offroad trucks most of them have swichable awd and diff lock and can't have mud tires (exept paystar) which makes them simmilar to heavy duty trucks.
The CAT and White Western Star share tire upgrades/sizes that being said the best mud tire is going to be: Off-Road 47" UOD ll Mud Rating of 1.9 Chained 47" UAD lll Mud Rating of 1.3 Now that don't sound like much but when you're in the mud fighting for your life, every little bit helps. Don't buy the Off-Road 47" UOD lll thinking their better, they have a Mud Rating of 1.5
I have a question about owning and selling the trucks. As far as going for the achievements in the game you can unlock for owning them all, do you need to own them all at once or just have them at least once. Like say if I sell a truck, does that still count towards getting them all just as long as you had it at one point?
Answered my own question with a google search, you can sell off trucks and still counts towards owning every truck in the game even if you no longer have one of it's kind in your garage.
Anyone knows why he puts the chained tires on them? According to the spreadsheet that's been around, mud tires are way better than any chained counterpart. No?
Not saying it would've changed the overall outcome, but isn't the CAT's 2700T a more powerful engine than the 2600TTA you chose? Perhaps could have helped it in some of the challenges.
Still the result would be more or less same....at the time of recording this video I didn't knew if it affect power because the power to weight ratio was already maxxed in both cases....but I think a loaded truck would be better to measure such changes.
the white western star singlehandedly got me through michigan so it’s definitely my personal favorite
Same, i think its the most dependable truck in my fleet.
Same
Kaylo Shearer I finished the first half of Michigan with it, and the Fleestar. The second half was dominated by some of the Russian trucks, and the Paystar.
1noxaj it’s so bad Jesus.
Bro same and it looks dope
I gotta hand it to you.
The CAT is a handsome looking brute like some other trucks. But the old timer still got some beef to pull tasks sent straight from the underworld.
Yes. I have been using the Western since I got it in Michigan. Now being in Alaska the only truck that can really beat it is the tayga king but it is in a different class!
The Cat is such an underwhelming truck and I hate that. It needs a buff or fix.
@Steak n Eggs one would think Caterpillar would hate it even more, but perhaps they just signed the license agreement and forgot about it.
@@mr.butterworth They probably don't care too much. It's not a truck designed for offroad use and on road it did perform better then the western star. CAT's main focus is construction/earth moving vehicles which means they are probably quite happy with the performance of the 745C (basically unstoppable) and can overlook the other vehicles issues.
@@digitalcamaro9708 Most of the US trucks the devs put into the games are underwhelming. 80-90% of the US heavy trucks are designed for paved/unpaved roads. Navistar 5000, Oshkosh M1070 and M911 are heavy equipment transports. They can handle some unusual road conditions but they aren't meant for offroad use. The M520 Goer manufactured by CAT or the HEMTT or LVSR by Oshkosh would have made for a better showing.
The Western Star is by far my absolute favorite in the game from the looks and from the capability. It served me well from the moment I rescued it from the Smithville dam and remains in my fleet with good memories. It helped in the most difficult missions from Michigan to Russia and never became stuck even with the extra large trailers. I think without the raised suspension the CAT is pretty useless and rather expensive. I would much rather have the Fleetstar instead of the CAT.
From my experience the Fleetstar is super light in the front. I always find myself doing wheelies or not being able to get grip on the front tires to steer. It’s a very good truck imo just pretty front light
As a former employee at the Western Star plant this video is fantastic.
The CAT's rear suspension has been defunct since launch, so it's at a disadvantage because it's constantly dragging it's frame on the ground. It's basically a lawn ornament.
its worked fine for me i use it all the time
I use it for trailers but you are right it really struggles with sharp angels it needs active suspension one because it has air bags and all trucks and raise themselves irl
It's not defunct. It's a walking beam suspension exactly as we find on the ZikZ 605R.
The result is good stability as it doesn't store up a huge amount of energy like the springs on the 4964, and good tyre contact as the suspension is literally incapable of holding a wheel off the ground (this is by design), but also poor ground clearance as the suspension has zero travel.
IRL, the CT680 didn't survive because it was very uncomfortable precisely because of the lack of suspension travel.
please do Ford clt 9000 vs international transtar. the title of who is the worst.
Lol
The cat has no suspension in the rear. Watch it’s mr. lone wolfs review. The results are the same but he explores more testing and gives you a deep understanding of a truck. This video is amazing tho keep up the good work!
Why are you using chained tires in swamp/mud?! They have very bad grip rating
Use the offroad tires UOD II
Yes, I was wondering the same thing. Chained tyres are a bit useless unless you're on ice.
because he doesn't give a shit about game mechanics, fitting only latest upgrades
It is the game fault, the game uses more complex statistics but those are never shown to the user, which is extremely retard UI design, in fact the CAT with UOD ll can plow through any terrain, since it weights nothing, it nevers sinks with those tires.
@@juanca2807 UOD II are the best traction offroad tires.
In fact for mud the UOD II / OHD I (1.9) are almost as good as the MHS I (2.0) that is available on most offroad and heavy class vehicles
The chained tires have something like 1.3.
Yes, the game UI is quite badly designed, as there are sufficient differences between tires of the same class
@@roberts.wilson1848 Yes I know, also the P16 stock wheels have the best mud/sustance coefficient, because "reasons". The UI is just a bunch of standard fixed labels, the game will be updated but really slow. I think in 1 year this will be a pretty good game actually, sad for everyone "beta testing".
Finally a worthy opponent
THIS FIGHT WILL BE LEGENDARY!!
The after upgrading stats of CAT were wrong.
The Cat CT680 is my favorite truck. I've used it for almost every job I did. It maybe slower but it's still really good.
Love the comparison vids! The WWS is probably my favorite so far - always seems to get the job done! Usually it's my crane truck as is goes everywhere, decent fuel economy and is very stable.
Good video!. I found the WS yesterday during a mission. I repaired/upgraded and choose to keep it.
Western star is the best truck in my fleet thank you for comparing it
WWS 4964 all the way because the cat has no lift or a rear suspension and the fact you gotta get to rank 12 to unlock it and the WWS has that c l a s s i c mudrunner horn
@katherine curtis you have good taste in air horns m’lady.
I feel the Western Star is very hard to tip over, its such a stable truck.
The western star just looks beautiful
Great job mate. I bought the CAT used it for a few contracts then sold it. The western star I used for most of Michigan as a semi. Its so wide and stable plus it pulls well for its size.
love the old rigs, western star is my fav truck. wish there was some old peterbilts in the game. we need more variety.. also need some damn cummins!!
I've just got it out of the dam it took me most of the weekend but the WSS is the truck I earnt
The Western Star 4964 is my fourth most favorite truck on the game!
the cat is great in Michigan and alaska where the roads aren't bad. it very fast and handles great
I love how the wws looks both vintage and modern
The cat is not terrible. I have found that there is 1 front bumper that improves the approach angle significantly. With that installed i havent had too many issues with the cat. I wll say that the livery for the western star beats any of the colors on the cat though.
Is it just me or is it nostalgia when u hear the White Western Star horn if u played Mudrunner cause it was all of the stock horns
The polls don't work anymore dude. We can't vote.
I had intended to use the white western star in place of the fleet star since they are the same length but for whatever reason the white can't have a crane, flatbed, and pull a trailer like the fleetstar
Also the cat does struggle in some mud and deeper mud just because of how fast/how powerful the truck is
Love your videos. Great channel. 👍
With stock suspension CAT is pretty useless, we need extra wheels like how trucks are in NA, also raised suspension.
The Western is my go to right behind the tayga king. The cat just don't cut it from my play throughs
do you watch A Tribe Called Cars cos thats what he calls the tayga
@@Matt_-so6kh that's where I got it from. However that's just the name. I dont watch his stuff much
@@TheBroughamGamer You should go watch some of his content its pretty good tbh
@@Matt_-so6kh alright. Thanks for the suggestion!
White western star is good for hevy Crane and resuce and transport is fast and agile
flestar f2070a is my favorite truck with upgrades
this truck is very Good in the mishigan and alaska
Caterpiar Ct 680 is good truck for easy tasks and light transport
@Daria Janusz the Fleetstar is a good all-purpose rig, although the frame is a little undersized for the heavy crane making it on the tipsy side with that add-on. And as a tractor the front wheels are in the air half the time, but it is a good truck.
Both trucks r my favorite and are absolute power houses!
I vote Western. Was the most dependable truck while working in Michigan. Only other truck I used was Kodiak either for manually loading cargo or fuel and repair Western Star.
Western star gets style points
best looking truvk in game
Can you please please please do the 2 old vorons in snow runner please it will help me decide better 👌😁please
Fun fact: Western Star 4964's horn is a reused horn, used in Big Trucks of Mudrunner
got some request for some videos:
Navistar 5000 vs frieghtliner M91A1
loadstar 1700 vs Tuz Warthog (cos they look similar)
Dan 96320 vs Pacific P12
Great video man!
I'll definitely do first one....rest of the comparisons, I can't promise
@CT-1409 the Navistar International vs. Freightliner matchup will be fun to see. That Freightliner is very short too, and the 5000MV a longish sleeper cab, so the contrast will be interesting.
@@SD1ONE ill be ready and waiting then!
Intersting compartion. For me CAT was good on roads of Alaska with chains. WHITE was pefect in mud, but on hard road I suffered of it`s gearbox - not my style at all.
Yeah I love the western star too I have both in my garage and use them both but the western star did get me through michagan and alaska and I still use it in Russia too
I don’t understand how the cats power to weight ratio went down...
Swear when I used it at launch it was S or S+
Yea it was way better then this
Its really weird, in the garage it said S+, it was only when he showed the "maxxed" stats that it went down to A. I think he used the wrong image for the new stats.
Simple! He didn't pick the highest power engine when he upgraded it. The 2700T is the best, but he picked the 2600TTA. See 0:43
Some Jeep Guy ok well even after picking that engine it still says s+ for the power to weight ratio.
Keeping my Westie, for sure. :)
Now that you've tested this, try comparing the WWS to the Voron D53233. According to the store page, the Voron is actually a Heavy Duty truck disguised as an Offroad class. Many of the Russian vehicles are actually members of different vehicle classes than what's listed, as far as their function/performance goes.
Western Star. The mud pretty much cinched it for me. The wider chassis also makes it more stable. The higher ground clearance is also appreciated.
On a sidenote, did you know that you can choose what kinds of ads appear in your videos, and how often? Just saying, because I got five Raid ads on this video.
And before anyone decides to be a smartass and tell me to get an ad blocker, I do have one. Keeping the ads on and giving them the clicks is just my way of supporting the creators.
That’s weird cause I never got any ads in sd1 videos
God i bet my dad would love this game
I love the old star.. she is a beast.
I just sold my Cat. The White Western has served me good, even in Russia.
*Cat*
Caterpilar is good sometimes but the white western star can do anything in any region even in the kola peninsula where the ice is breaking, in addition the white western star has high suspensions.
who thinks white western also is an awesome sounding truck?
Western Star,my favorite
CAT CT680 isn’t maxed! You must’ve picked 2700T engine!
indeed
It is since the engine list isn't in order (wich i hate ) and its at s+
I love the the Cat it looks good and Ive had both it and the WWS bound up in the russian quarry and the Cat wasnt give in even in High range and the WWS said nope im done
Nice Video sd1one. Do you think about reviewing mods?
I don't know...maybe I'll if there're some interesting mods.....Also this new method of downloading mods is kinda slow for me...sometimes it just stuck at downloading.
@@SD1ONE Just delete the mods folder, it should redownload them faster. But for me, mods, that weight >500mb are downloading veeery long too
@@EdwardNigma950 It's like it's not utilizing full bandwidth...unlike steam where mods were downloaded in launcher itself at full network bandwidth....I'll try deleting mods folder...wish they improve this system soon
@@SD1ONE Don't think that they will, but, there is a huge amount of very-very good mods, cause they are made with attention to details, I can give you my fav list of mods, if you want.
SD1ONE mods for me crash the Game and Now i softlocked Myself out of the Game forever because i cant Even Reach the Main Menu
White Western Star and Paystar the best duo for michigan 😁
I prefer the Cat because of the looks and it having helped me thru Alaska, it feels like it gose on longer as well, but it the cat doesn't have a raised, nor a rear suspension.
Renault 75-34 MX true
I only love the CAT for the dual snorkels.
Western star is still unstoppable and powerful
Bro! You the best!
@ 3:49
The CAT now has raised suspension . You should do a complete retest.
Where is the raised suspension its not on xbox
@@steelcaboose5975 Really?? It's on PS4
@@hermanjohnson9180 wtf that sucks i love the cat but the low ride height is really flippin annoying
@@steelcaboose5975 Well, I'm glad I have a PS4 then haha.
Definitely love the white star no matter
could you do a video of the western star 4964 v western star twin steer with the twin steer having awd
The cat is good at what it does, only con is the crappy suspension rake, which makes it prone to beaching trailers on sudden ups and downs
Cat is really usefull for clean road because of his speed
Western star is older but better, because it won in lots of offroad competitions and it has bigger fuel tank and it burns as much fuel as CAT
Can you do the Navistar versus the royal bm 17
I use the cat and the GMC mainly In Alaska and I use the western star and the fleat star in the Michigan
U have another thing you can add to the test how difficult is it to obtain the parts/upgrades because some can take hours to get to.
The best engine for CT680 is 2700T, not 2600TTA, it has 12000 more torque
why is the right side of the split-screen bigger than the left side? I can't unsee this now
What the heck did the CAT do at 4:27? There is no way it can blast off two oil barrels
Wait wait wasnt the CAT states higher then this when i up graded it i swear it was an S
Why Heavy duty class exists? In what they are different from offroad class or heavy?
Good question. I've thinking about that myself.
heavies arу special machines, with biggest sizes and lack of most addons. Offroad ones often come with always on diff lock and AWD, also best of them can be fitted with mud tires, while heavy duty have only offroad ones and never have always on difflock/ AWD
@@vladvulcan Well yes, but if you look on american offroad trucks most of them have swichable awd and diff lock and can't have mud tires (exept paystar) which makes them simmilar to heavy duty trucks.
@@yung_czery, that makes some questions to them, why they are even here, and not in heavy duty class
7:28 sunshield flying! The CAT CT680 Has programming defects? Or did they use another chassis and just mount the cab?
WHY on earth would you use chained tires for mud, seriously.
Because they dont have mud tires so they are better
dont have
Fabi Rodríguez No they’re not.
The CAT and White Western Star share tire upgrades/sizes that being said the best mud tire is going to be:
Off-Road 47" UOD ll Mud Rating of 1.9
Chained 47" UAD lll Mud Rating of 1.3
Now that don't sound like much but when you're in the mud fighting for your life, every little bit helps.
Don't buy the Off-Road 47" UOD lll thinking their better, they have a Mud Rating of 1.5
Why do you have them in snow chains when you aren't on ice?
I have a question about owning and selling the trucks. As far as going for the achievements in the game you can unlock for owning them all, do you need to own them all at once or just have them at least once. Like say if I sell a truck, does that still count towards getting them all just as long as you had it at one point?
Answered my own question with a google search, you can sell off trucks and still counts towards owning every truck in the game even if you no longer have one of it's kind in your garage.
off road tires are actually better than chains in mud and offroad driving
What do you think about DL 3194 after diff lock and liftable axle upgrade?
I tired it and it's pretty decent now...but still I would prefer those 8x8 Azovs when it comes to pulling trailers..
We only love western star !!
Can you compare the ct680 to the CT 681
Anyone knows why he puts the chained tires on them? According to the spreadsheet that's been around, mud tires are way better than any chained counterpart. No?
Not saying it would've changed the overall outcome, but isn't the CAT's 2700T a more powerful engine than the 2600TTA you chose? Perhaps could have helped it in some of the challenges.
Still the result would be more or less same....at the time of recording this video I didn't knew if it affect power because the power to weight ratio was already maxxed in both cases....but I think a loaded truck would be better to measure such changes.
@@SD1ONEYeah, I only noticed it with some of the heavier frame add-ons.
Idk, I like both, to be truthfully honest, I like pretty every truck in the game lol
well the cat is maybe not so good in mud but its good on the road so you choose which you want
Voron Grad vs Azov 64131 please
I miss old music and bob
I love the western star
Mabye try the White Western star against the Freightliner 114SD
Why tf do you have chain tires on dirt?
Joshua Morehead cant have mud
CAT really struggle in water😺😺😺😺
Where is the test area? Is this a mod?
Does anyone know what map the "Ice Climb" is on?
Am I the only one that noticed that the cats rear wheels spaz out with the tanker bed on
Please tell me what map in this video
Τhe cats power to weight is S + .
Εven when you watch your video a few seconds before leaving the menu, it looks clear ...
Do a Tyga vs Voron AE! Please.
I bought a voron D ASAP lol lift kit is in the first Russian map. It has served me well enough to own 2 and that’s all I use!!
I think that low fuel tank on the Cat is a big hinderance
Your so good
The cat is a decent truck but takes damage far too easily
I have 2 western stars the game glitched on me I'm not complaining I've driven that thing while the cabs been submerged underwater
As long as your snorkel is out of water you can drive your truck without damaging engine