First time watching one of your reviews. A great list, and great discussion. I really liked how you framed each of your discussions - “Dungeon Crawler Feel”, etc., as well as “This might be your number one if…”, “Why it is not further up the list,” and the like. I wish more reviewers had such structure. I do a lot of solo gaming, and I like dungeon crawlers. You gave me a lot of inspiration. Thanks.
I really liked your clearly delivered and measured speech. The material is well absorbed for a non-English-speaking person. Thank you for this approach to submission. I appreciate it.
Thanks for posting, I liked your video. I see some are saying there are some games on the list that are not dungeon crawlers. I say your list is great and keep posting what you want.
Great video. Thank you for the over/view- reviews. There is a saying “there are never too many games to play” while that maybe be true.. it sure is daunting to just pick a title, there’s just so many. So your list is nice 👌 I like talisman as an easy party game. I also appreciate how you’ve rated the playability alone since it’s not always easy to gather a party and certain games are complex enough that a couple of play throughs are warranted for a thorough understanding of the pacing, mechanics etc.
Great. I have rarely seen such a good overview of selected dungeon crawlers. What I particularly liked: All crawlers were compared using a fixed scheme of important criteria. In addition, the reasons why the game could be number one for me personally and why it didn't land in first place for you. Very informative. Thank you!!! I subscribed to the channel immediately. UA-cam content with useful content. Very nice.
Great video! I don't mind that you included a lot of "not really a dungeon crawler"s because I'm just looking for a certain type of gameplay and all the included games do have that. I'm also happy to see so many games I've never heard of!
Gosh, thanks for sharing! So much goodstuff. I currently have Dungeon Alliance and Mage Knight. I'm totally going to back the 2nd edition of League of Dungeoneers (choosing this over Dungeon Universalis for some reasons). Going to get Dungeon Saga soon. I'm really looking for the dark, immersive, old-school dungeon crawlin' feelz :)
Great video. Especially love the breakdown at the end of each game explanation. There are some very loose interpretations of what a dungeon crawler is, but overall enjoyed your picks. I love the original Massive Darkness and Keep the Heroes Out is one I’m going to keep an eye out for.
Just bought Massive Darkness 2 on your recommendation! I'm playing an Oathsworn campaign with my brother, but wanted something for solo play. Thank you for the excellent video!
Nice list man!!! really good stuff, I will check it out Masmorra: Dungeons of Arcadia and Horrified. I will suggest to check: Tales from the red dragon inn, Valor & Villainy and, for a heavy DC, Darklight Memento Mori... but is hard do find :P
Thanks. Horrified is one of my favorite game because it's so easy to get to the table and I like the different monster puzzles. I just got Tales from the Red Dragon Inn and I love it. Haven't heard of Darklight before. I'll have to check it out.
I bought and played Massive Darkness 2 and the campaign extension Heavenfall and I think it's a perfect mix between fun and achievement, it's way more fun than gloomhaven, and you get a way better progress feeling. If you like dices, great heros synergies and getting a whole bunch of loot then buy it eyes closed. The heros asymetry is just sooo good, it makes you wanna try them all ! I've been playing solo and 3 players, always fun ! Last but not least, the fact that you can play it one shot mode or campaign mode makes it playable in so much different configurations (family, Friends, solo)
For me Gloomhaven was incredible fun, a lot of intellectual satisfaction from coming up with creative solutions to complex problems and planning ahead, cool progression, a lot of player agency at all levels. Massive Darkness can be a good pastime, but due to SO MUCH randomness it is more a game that plays itself, especially as the difficulty is woefully low. Good to play with kids (or when you're all drunk ;))
@@robertchmielecki2580 you can add some more Monsters to increase the difficulty. Gloomhaven doesn't have any loot, so frustrating, it is just a puzzle game for me.
@@Bouccledor We've experimented with just adding an extra monster to mobs, but still all scenarios so far have been a breeze, the game not forcing us to use a resurrection token even once. I don't think adding even more would help, as it would just turn mobs into more of DMG sponges and totally random black dice kills, instead I think what is needed is making the monsters more aggressive, because they are just shambling punching bags now. I will experiment with making first Monster move action 2 spaces to give them a chance to go on the offensive sometimes. And there's very cool loot in Gloomhaven, and it is extremely fun that players can't really agree on who's taking it as planning actions is secret ;) It results in so many situations where you expect a friend to help you out only to see him go on a coin/chest looting spree :D Hilarious! (and I love how this secret planning and individual XP/loot kills the alpha player bossing everyone else around which is often a problem with such cooperative titles)
A good list. I got rid of One Deck dungeon... too fiddly for me. The steam app solves this. Also, I found Dragonfire too grindy and sold that one also. A few others worth consideration: Darkest Dungeon, Altar Quest, Bag of Dungeon, Dungeoneer, DungeonQuest, Oathsworn. Its a great time to be a gamer who likes dungeon crawls... there are so many good ones available and coming out soon. I also enjoy / collect Adventure games so I'd enjoy your take on those.
Marvel United is my favourite game due to the ease of play and variety of heroes and villains, but I wouldn't think to call it a dungeon crawler. Massive Darkness 2 is my favourite dungeon crawler. Great video!
You're right Marvel United is not a dungeon crawler, but you do fight bad guys and I was hoping to provide some ideas that others hadn't considered, if they liked these types of games :) Enjoy playing.
Good job. I like the list. I am not big on dungeon crawler games but I would like to try some of these. I have played the rise of Cthulhu "pandemic" and I love it. I am a H.P. Lovecraft fan. It has very easy play but hard to win even on easy. Solo is loads of fun. Keep up the good work.
Awesome list. Massive Darkness 2 is my #1 Dungeon Crawler as well! Horrified is fantastic, my wife even likes it! Have you seen Dark Ventures: Battle of the Ancients? You might like it.
Nice list. Keep the heroes out for me 's little less drungeon crawler. Got also some tower defence in it. Bloodborne is interesting to. And for 1vs1 Claustrophobia. For the rest i think i whould join all on the list.
Very nice list. I've never considered Roll player, but that setup with the monsters looked intresting. I'll probabky purchase Massive darkness once it's available in my country, there is a lot I like about it.
Amazing work!!! I use to watch a lot of "top...", and by far it is the most professionnal one! Perhaps you should give an eye to all CTG games. They are all in my favourites solo games (TMB and Victoruml are great adventures and Cloudspire is my favorite -it is a king of tower defense- but it is difficult to master and to put on the table).
Yeah, I've thought a lot about them. There's no doubt that they are really deep with great quality component. Unfortunately for me, I typically only have an hour or so at a time. So while I appreciate the richness of the other games, I just haven't gotten to play to many of them. Oh to have more time :D
Thank you for this breakdown! I've been looking for a true solo RPG to get started on, so that Mage Knight looks right up my alley. A quick search on your page doesn't reveal much; have you played the Pathfinder Card Game? I've also been looking at that recently, and am very curious to know how it feels
I have Zombiecide Black Plague along with wild west version and sci-fi versions with as many expansions and stuff as possible. Want to get more of the Marvel Zombies if possible. My husband and I got Massive Darkness 2 about month ago. Next time we play we plan on adding some difficulties cause we are winning too easily. Nightmare track and whatever else.
No knock against it. I just haven't played it. I'm just a gamer in my free time. I don't do reviews for a living, so there are tons more games that I'd like to play than I have access to or time :(
Just wondered if you'd tried Untold Legends? If not, give it a go - it would be on my list, but - to be fair - I haven't played a lot of the ones on your list!
If we are picking Horrified then I would place Alien above it. Basically the same game but it fits the Alien film well and can be tense with 5 players. Otherwise there are some amazing App games such as Lord Of The Rings Journey In Middle Earth that would fit this list. I thought the App would be annoying but it's pretty great and the App for Descent isn't bad either. I would have to agree with game designer Paul Grogan,of Gaming Rules,that Mage Knight is the number one game of all time. Nothing comes close. There are some fantastic campaigns that have been made for the game,such as The Betrayal,as well. Even Gloomhaven falls short. But you are right that it's not really a dungeon crawler. As for my number one that would be Sword And Sorcery. The production is up there with Descent and the AI driven enemies are some of the best out there. Can be very strategic at times but it's fun enough to get into fairly easily. Plus I love how you can level up during the mission. It does need the expansion campaigns to really shine but it can be very satisfying finishing a mission. Plus the stories aren't bad even if they are cliche.
Hi there,I have the feeling that "Roll player" it's a good game but half game with out the expansion...the same told me for the "Mage Knight" without the "lost legion".Descent it's in my classic list with runebounds versions.Nice work and thank you for the video!...Have you tried "Claustophobia" ?
Wow. Thanks for the great content. I echo your thoughts on the few games on the list that i tried (Gloomhaven JOTL, Imperial assault, Zombicide,). Anythoughts on Bloodbourne? I will consider Massive Darkness for my next purchase, but Bloodbourne and Assassins Creed BoV look interesting as well.
hello,,i hope you can help me with this,, theres is board that i cant remember im not sure if its a dungeon crawler or a story base,, the game has weird character and Arts like Feudom, the game has weird colors too its just sharp red,orange,purple etc etc, and the map is kinda messy, u control asymmetric characters ,, and the theme is dark
Seeing that you rated Cthulhu Death May Die high up on the list, have you tried Deep Madness and Arkham Horror the card game? Both are very challenging and thematic game.
i have never been more disappointed in a game than gloomhaven. i live in china and went to so much trouble to lug that thing halfway around the world, and it made my luggage overweight so they charged me an extra hundred bucks. when i finally got it to the table, i discovered its not an adventure game, its a deck building puzle game. its not suited for multiple players, because typically there is one way to succeed in a scenario, so there is always one person that takes the lead and makes the decisions. i am not a fan of deckbuilders, so it really wasnt for me
Uhhhh… I’m pretty sure you bought a different game… None of the things you’re describing are Gloomhaven?? The real question is what kind of idiot do you have to be to go through all that nonsense of getting back to China, like it’s some sort of long lost family heirloom of yours or something beyond important to your overall well-being. Only to come to conclusion that your beloved isn’t anything at all what you “dreamed” it was going?!?! Do you seriously not do a bunch of research on it, watch “how to play Gloomhaven” videos on UA-cam, etc… prior to quite literally traveling to the other side of the planet and lug that massive thing back home with you?!? 😂🤣😂 I can’t even believe you would go through such lengths for a game that you knew ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about! 🤣
Interesting list, but there are too many games on it that are definitely NOT dungeon crawlers in any way, shape, or form - so the title of the video is a bit misleading.
At the time I’m seeing this the title of the video says “ish”. Also he rates each game with how much of a dungeon crawler “feel” there is, and at 13:28 he explains his thought process for making the list this way, so the title of this video is not misleading in any way, shape, or form
Interesting that you put fun and accomplishment as two mutually exclusive categories :) For me fun comes from accomplishment, intellectual satisfaction and creativity in problem solving. No fun for me from watching a random game play itself or decisions being easy and obvious.
The reason I put it as 3/5 is only because it's really easy to set up and put away, compared to others. I definitely agree with you that it's really hard from an understand the rules and choosing what to do.
I've played the first 4 or so scenarios of massive darkness 2 and while I enjoyed the system, the game is just way too easy with no difficulty scaling options.
Ok I have issues with you putting Marvel United Horrified Warcraft wrath of the lich king On the list none of those are dungeon crawlers. (Also marvel United would be ranked much much higher if you had included x-men United and expansions) You are missing amazing dungeon crawlers that blow away all these Midarra Shadows of brimstone Dungeon universalis Also missing Arena - the contest Bardsung Chronicles of Drunagor
Interesting list, I really dislike D&D adventure games and can't believe anyone would rate it abouve Gloomhaven.. ;) Anyway, my no. 1 dungeon crawler is Shadows of Brimstone!
Yeah, it all depends on the mood of that game. For me it's definitely not above Gloomhaven in terms of game design, but it's faster to the table, and good if you're looking for roll the dice and have some quick fun. But I definitely understand others not liking it. That's why I just wanted to share a lot of different ones, in case others hadn't played them. I've heard of Shadows, but haven't had a chance to play it.
I am a bit surprised that so many of these games aimed for bright colours. A dungeon needs to be dark and gritty in my opinion. You can make the heros/players brighter, so they stand out, but I pretty much prefer a design like Zombiecide
Love this video. We like the same games. My top 1 zombicide (undead or alive an BP) 2 cthulhu death may die 3 massive darkness 2 4 mice and mystics 5 horrified 6 adventure tactics 7 resident evil 2 8 bloodborne 9 mansions of madness 10 one deck dungeon Really love the pandemic games!! My all time favourite series, so should be my number 1. 😁
First time watching one of your reviews. A great list, and great discussion. I really liked how you framed each of your discussions - “Dungeon Crawler Feel”, etc., as well as “This might be your number one if…”, “Why it is not further up the list,” and the like. I wish more reviewers had such structure. I do a lot of solo gaming, and I like dungeon crawlers. You gave me a lot of inspiration. Thanks.
I really liked your clearly delivered and measured speech. The material is well absorbed for a non-English-speaking person. Thank you for this approach to submission. I appreciate it.
Thank you. I'm glad it was helpful :)
Great video, really informative. I appreciated your approach and rating style!
Thanks
Your break downs are really nice and effective. Good job
Thanks for posting, I liked your video. I see some are saying there are some games on the list that are not dungeon crawlers. I say your list is great and keep posting what you want.
This is exactly the kind of video I was looking for. Thank you for all the suggestions and descriptions.
That was an amazing video! Having the games all set up,instead of just describing them Great Job!
Great list! I'm glad I found your channel.
Nice list well explained, look forward to more content
Dude this video is awesome. Keep putting them out.
Really appreciated the format of this video. Subscribed
Great video. Thank you for the over/view- reviews. There is a saying “there are never too many games to play” while that maybe be true.. it sure is daunting to just pick a title, there’s just so many. So your list is nice 👌 I like talisman as an easy party game. I also appreciate how you’ve rated the playability alone since it’s not always easy to gather a party and certain games are complex enough that a couple of play throughs are warranted for a thorough understanding of the pacing, mechanics etc.
Great. I have rarely seen such a good overview of selected dungeon crawlers. What I particularly liked:
All crawlers were compared using a fixed scheme of important criteria. In addition, the reasons why the game could be number one for me personally and why it didn't land in first place for you.
Very informative. Thank you!!! I subscribed to the channel immediately. UA-cam content with useful content. Very nice.
Thanks :) I'm glad it was helpful.
Very nice video and break down!
absolutely nice review👍
I totally agree on your opinion and I’m about to get some new games ranked high on your review
Great video! You definitely have a similar dungeon crawler interest to me. Great breakdown and great list!
Great video! I don't mind that you included a lot of "not really a dungeon crawler"s because I'm just looking for a certain type of gameplay and all the included games do have that. I'm also happy to see so many games I've never heard of!
Great list and great video, one subscriptor more from Spain 😊
Great overview of the games, thank you so much.
Great job. I like your grading system. Gave me some new ideas. Thanks.
Thanks :)
Fantastic video, I love the explanations for each games and I like that you sat outside the box a little bit. Well done!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it :)
Nice collection. Thank you for the explanations!
Great reminder of a great variety of games.
Thank you.
I hear a lot of Sheldon Cooper in your voice. Nice job with the video!
Great list, thanks for the video!! I love your rating system as well!
You did an amazing job. Thank you so much for doing such great work!
I was surprised to not see Clank! in the list. Clank Catacombs looks even better. Love the format! Thank you.
This channel deserves way more subscribers.
great video! thanks for making it
You're welcome. I'm glad you liked it.
Gosh, thanks for sharing! So much goodstuff. I currently have Dungeon Alliance and Mage Knight. I'm totally going to back the 2nd edition of League of Dungeoneers (choosing this over Dungeon Universalis for some reasons). Going to get Dungeon Saga soon. I'm really looking for the dark, immersive, old-school dungeon crawlin' feelz :)
Great video. Especially love the breakdown at the end of each game explanation. There are some very loose interpretations of what a dungeon crawler is, but overall enjoyed your picks. I love the original Massive Darkness and Keep the Heroes Out is one I’m going to keep an eye out for.
Thanks for the list; I'm adding Horrified and Keep the Heroes Out as possible future purchases.
Just bought Massive Darkness 2 on your recommendation! I'm playing an Oathsworn campaign with my brother, but wanted something for solo play. Thank you for the excellent video!
Great. I hope you enjoy it. I know I have :)
How is the Massive Darkness Board Game?
Nice list man!!! really good stuff, I will check it out Masmorra: Dungeons of Arcadia and Horrified.
I will suggest to check: Tales from the red dragon inn, Valor & Villainy and, for a heavy DC, Darklight Memento Mori... but is hard do find :P
Thanks. Horrified is one of my favorite game because it's so easy to get to the table and I like the different monster puzzles. I just got Tales from the Red Dragon Inn and I love it. Haven't heard of Darklight before. I'll have to check it out.
Muchas gracias por la lista, excelente material de consulta
I bought and played Massive Darkness 2 and the campaign extension Heavenfall and I think it's a perfect mix between fun and achievement, it's way more fun than gloomhaven, and you get a way better progress feeling. If you like dices, great heros synergies and getting a whole bunch of loot then buy it eyes closed. The heros asymetry is just sooo good, it makes you wanna try them all !
I've been playing solo and 3 players, always fun ! Last but not least, the fact that you can play it one shot mode or campaign mode makes it playable in so much different configurations (family, Friends, solo)
For me Gloomhaven was incredible fun, a lot of intellectual satisfaction from coming up with creative solutions to complex problems and planning ahead, cool progression, a lot of player agency at all levels. Massive Darkness can be a good pastime, but due to SO MUCH randomness it is more a game that plays itself, especially as the difficulty is woefully low. Good to play with kids (or when you're all drunk ;))
@@robertchmielecki2580 you can add some more Monsters to increase the difficulty. Gloomhaven doesn't have any loot, so frustrating, it is just a puzzle game for me.
@@Bouccledor We've experimented with just adding an extra monster to mobs, but still all scenarios so far have been a breeze, the game not forcing us to use a resurrection token even once. I don't think adding even more would help, as it would just turn mobs into more of DMG sponges and totally random black dice kills, instead I think what is needed is making the monsters more aggressive, because they are just shambling punching bags now.
I will experiment with making first Monster move action 2 spaces to give them a chance to go on the offensive sometimes.
And there's very cool loot in Gloomhaven, and it is extremely fun that players can't really agree on who's taking it as planning actions is secret ;) It results in so many situations where you expect a friend to help you out only to see him go on a coin/chest looting spree :D Hilarious! (and I love how this secret planning and individual XP/loot kills the alpha player bossing everyone else around which is often a problem with such cooperative titles)
Appreciate a solo friendly review. I am hunting for something new.
What a great thorough review. 👍
Thanks for the video. I really want Massive Darkness 2. I like that you didn't just pick "pure" dungeon crawlers
Thanks.
A good list. I got rid of One Deck dungeon... too fiddly for me. The steam app solves this. Also, I found Dragonfire too grindy and sold that one also. A few others worth consideration: Darkest Dungeon, Altar Quest, Bag of Dungeon, Dungeoneer, DungeonQuest, Oathsworn. Its a great time to be a gamer who likes dungeon crawls... there are so many good ones available and coming out soon. I also enjoy / collect Adventure games so I'd enjoy your take on those.
Great video my friend
Great overview. Thanks for sharing! Have you ever tried Sword and Sorcery?
Thank you for this amazing video good sir
You're welcome. I'm glad you liked it.
Marvel United is my favourite game due to the ease of play and variety of heroes and villains, but I wouldn't think to call it a dungeon crawler. Massive Darkness 2 is my favourite dungeon crawler. Great video!
You're right Marvel United is not a dungeon crawler, but you do fight bad guys and I was hoping to provide some ideas that others hadn't considered, if they liked these types of games :) Enjoy playing.
solid list thanks
Thank you!
Good job. I like the list. I am not big on dungeon crawler games but I would like to try some of these. I have played the rise of Cthulhu "pandemic" and I love it. I am a H.P. Lovecraft fan. It has very easy play but hard to win even on easy. Solo is loads of fun.
Keep up the good work.
One Deck Dungeon is put together so well, but it's still so freaking difficult.
Awesome format!
(..even so I'm not entirely agree ;))
Thanks
Masmorra is my top #1 and one of the reasons is that I don't need to manage monster minis - I can use just dice system
Awesome list. Massive Darkness 2 is my #1 Dungeon Crawler as well! Horrified is fantastic, my wife even likes it! Have you seen Dark Ventures: Battle of the Ancients? You might like it.
Happy to see dungeon alliance on this list!
Yeah, that's a great game.
Nice list. Keep the heroes out for me 's little less drungeon crawler. Got also some tower defence in it. Bloodborne is interesting to. And for 1vs1 Claustrophobia. For the rest i think i whould join all on the list.
Very nice list. I've never considered Roll player, but that setup with the monsters looked intresting. I'll probabky purchase Massive darkness once it's available in my country, there is a lot I like about it.
Fantastic video, I really like your classification and rating
Amazing work!!! I use to watch a lot of "top...", and by far it is the most professionnal one! Perhaps you should give an eye to all CTG games. They are all in my favourites solo games (TMB and Victoruml are great adventures and Cloudspire is my favorite -it is a king of tower defense- but it is difficult to master and to put on the table).
Yeah, I've thought a lot about them. There's no doubt that they are really deep with great quality component. Unfortunately for me, I typically only have an hour or so at a time. So while I appreciate the richness of the other games, I just haven't gotten to play to many of them. Oh to have more time :D
Thanks for the video! Would this list be the same if not based on solo play? Thanks.
Massive Darkness 1 was a huge let down and I never even bothered with MD2 kinda wish I looked at it now.
i really liked it, after playing a few times. had to make some minor house rules to make it more difficult tho
How League of Dungeoneers would score in comparison with those other games?
That's a good question. I haven't played that before. :(
Have you tried Set A Watch? I think it might be up your style.
What do you think about the Tiny Epic Dungeons Boardgame?
I haven't had a chance to play that one yet.
What game comes with that Dice Roller Tower? Or it's a standalone add-on? Where do you get it?
Good ranking system
16 seems oddly specific. What would #17 have been?
Thank you for this breakdown! I've been looking for a true solo RPG to get started on, so that Mage Knight looks right up my alley.
A quick search on your page doesn't reveal much; have you played the Pathfinder Card Game? I've also been looking at that recently, and am very curious to know how it feels
Sorry, haven't played pathfinder.
Shadows of Brimstone! Best dungeon crawl ever
Yeah, I've heard about it. I haven't had a chance to try it.
Totally. But i need a new room to store it when Brimstone Adventures arrives.
Mage Knight 🔝🔝🔝👊🏼🇧🇷
Great Vídeo...
Great list! Good to see the Dragonfire & DND Board Games so high. I would add Dark Souls, Warhammer quest to the list. Well done.
I have Zombiecide Black Plague along with wild west version and sci-fi versions with as many expansions and stuff as possible. Want to get more of the Marvel Zombies if possible. My husband and I got Massive Darkness 2 about month ago. Next time we play we plan on adding some difficulties cause we are winning too easily. Nightmare track and whatever else.
How come Descent Legends isn't on the list? You didn't like it or prefer Journeys?
No knock against it. I just haven't played it. I'm just a gamer in my free time. I don't do reviews for a living, so there are tons more games that I'd like to play than I have access to or time :(
Just wondered if you'd tried Untold Legends? If not, give it a go - it would be on my list, but - to be fair - I haven't played a lot of the ones on your list!
If we are picking Horrified then I would place Alien above it. Basically the same game but it fits the Alien film well and can be tense with 5 players. Otherwise there are some amazing App games such as Lord Of The Rings Journey In Middle Earth that would fit this list. I thought the App would be annoying but it's pretty great and the App for Descent isn't bad either.
I would have to agree with game designer Paul Grogan,of Gaming Rules,that Mage Knight is the number one game of all time. Nothing comes close. There are some fantastic campaigns that have been made for the game,such as The Betrayal,as well. Even Gloomhaven falls short. But you are right that it's not really a dungeon crawler.
As for my number one that would be Sword And Sorcery. The production is up there with Descent and the AI driven enemies are some of the best out there. Can be very strategic at times but it's fun enough to get into fairly easily. Plus I love how you can level up during the mission. It does need the expansion campaigns to really shine but it can be very satisfying finishing a mission. Plus the stories aren't bad even if they are cliche.
huh didnt expect KtHO, dont really classify it as a dungeon crawler more of a coop defense game but its one of my favorites
Hi there,I have the feeling that "Roll player" it's a good game but half game with out the expansion...the same told me for the "Mage Knight" without the "lost legion".Descent it's in my classic list with runebounds versions.Nice work and thank you for the video!...Have you tried "Claustophobia" ?
Thanks. Do you try Uprising ?
Wow. Thanks for the great content. I echo your thoughts on the few games on the list that i tried (Gloomhaven JOTL, Imperial assault, Zombicide,). Anythoughts on Bloodbourne? I will consider Massive Darkness for my next purchase, but Bloodbourne and Assassins Creed BoV look interesting as well.
hello,,i hope you can help me with this,, theres is board that i cant remember im not sure if its a dungeon crawler or a story base,, the game has weird character and Arts like Feudom, the game has weird colors too its just sharp red,orange,purple etc etc, and the map is kinda messy, u control asymmetric characters ,, and the theme is dark
Sorry, I don't know what that might be.
@@lightrangergames9354 its okay, i was able to get an answer on BGG it was dungeon degenerates,,Thanks for replying happy new year! :)
Cool.
Thanks
What is 'AP' as a game description? Thanks
Analysis Paralysis - I mean how much you might feel stuck trying to decide what to do.
Interesting that you did not include the Dungeon Saga games or the Swords and Sorcery games, Talisman, or HeroQuest games.
Have you tried Oathsworn?
I haven't tried it. I've heard it's good though. There's just too many good games and so little time :)
Hexplore it or euthia should probabbly be on the list as they are more of a dungeon crawler, especially better solo.
Seeing that you rated Cthulhu Death May Die high up on the list, have you tried Deep Madness and Arkham Horror the card game? Both are very challenging and thematic game.
i have never been more disappointed in a game than gloomhaven. i live in china and went to so much trouble to lug that thing halfway around the world, and it made my luggage overweight so they charged me an extra hundred bucks. when i finally got it to the table, i discovered its not an adventure game, its a deck building puzle game. its not suited for multiple players, because typically there is one way to succeed in a scenario, so there is always one person that takes the lead and makes the decisions. i am not a fan of deckbuilders, so it really wasnt for me
Uhhhh… I’m pretty sure you bought a different game… None of the things you’re describing are Gloomhaven?? The real question is what kind of idiot do you have to be to go through all that nonsense of getting back to China, like it’s some sort of long lost family heirloom of yours or something beyond important to your overall well-being. Only to come to conclusion that your beloved isn’t anything at all what you “dreamed” it was going?!?! Do you seriously not do a bunch of research on it, watch “how to play Gloomhaven” videos on UA-cam, etc… prior to quite literally traveling to the other side of the planet and lug that massive thing back home with you?!? 😂🤣😂
I can’t even believe you would go through such lengths for a game that you knew ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about! 🤣
Interesting list, but there are too many games on it that are definitely NOT dungeon crawlers in any way, shape, or form - so the title of the video is a bit misleading.
Thats what I thought. Who calls Marvel United a dungeon crawl?
Agree. When you do a "top 16" and start off 8 of them with "its not really a dungeon crawl" you'd have been better served to make a top 8
At the time I’m seeing this the title of the video says “ish”. Also he rates each game with how much of a dungeon crawler “feel” there is, and at 13:28 he explains his thought process for making the list this way, so the title of this video is not misleading in any way, shape, or form
He clearly added the ( ish ) part on the tittle.
What about heroquest?
Unfortunately haven't played it.
Arkham horror the card game actually a great one good for solo too
Agreed massive darkness 2 is the best!
Interesting that you put fun and accomplishment as two mutually exclusive categories :) For me fun comes from accomplishment, intellectual satisfaction and creativity in problem solving. No fun for me from watching a random game play itself or decisions being easy and obvious.
What is AP?
Analysis Paralysis
Nice video
Mage knight ease of play should be 1/5 though, king of analysis paralysis and 30 min planning each attack. No way its 3/5.
The reason I put it as 3/5 is only because it's really easy to set up and put away, compared to others. I definitely agree with you that it's really hard from an understand the rules and choosing what to do.
I've played the first 4 or so scenarios of massive darkness 2 and while I enjoyed the system, the game is just way too easy with no difficulty scaling options.
Ok I have issues with you putting
Marvel United
Horrified
Warcraft wrath of the lich king
On the list none of those are dungeon crawlers. (Also marvel United would be ranked much much higher if you had included x-men United and expansions)
You are missing amazing dungeon crawlers that blow away all these
Midarra
Shadows of brimstone
Dungeon universalis
Also missing
Arena - the contest
Bardsung
Chronicles of Drunagor
Middara, Shadows of Brimstone, Sword and Sorcery, Arena are all excellent and would be towards the very top of my list.
Interesting list, I really dislike D&D adventure games and can't believe anyone would rate it abouve Gloomhaven.. ;) Anyway, my no. 1 dungeon crawler is Shadows of Brimstone!
Yeah, it all depends on the mood of that game. For me it's definitely not above Gloomhaven in terms of game design, but it's faster to the table, and good if you're looking for roll the dice and have some quick fun. But I definitely understand others not liking it. That's why I just wanted to share a lot of different ones, in case others hadn't played them. I've heard of Shadows, but haven't had a chance to play it.
I am a bit surprised that so many of these games aimed for bright colours. A dungeon needs to be dark and gritty in my opinion. You can make the heros/players brighter, so they stand out, but I pretty much prefer a design like Zombiecide
Love this video. We like the same games. My top
1 zombicide (undead or alive an BP)
2 cthulhu death may die
3 massive darkness 2
4 mice and mystics
5 horrified
6 adventure tactics
7 resident evil 2
8 bloodborne
9 mansions of madness
10 one deck dungeon
Really love the pandemic games!! My all time favourite series, so should be my number 1. 😁
Cool. There are a number on your list that I need to try :)
No Hero Quest?
Really? No "Marching Order?"
I can tell you’ve not played Machina Arcana - it’s one of the best dungeon crawls ever made!
Absolutely!
Honorable mention to the Flesh Light, it's not a dungeon crawler but has a similar deep delve feel to it 🤪
Try the Shrek it's a game changer!