Cordless Screw Guns - Head to Head Comparison
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Cordless screw guns are revolutionizing the drywall industry. Our crew of contractors recently pitted five of the top cordless screw guns against each other to determine the best in several categories. The competition included: Bosch, DEWALT, Hilti, Makita, and Senco.
You can read the full results in our detailed article here:
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started with a young contractor recently and this young fellow hand 4 HILTI drywall gun!!
we had a 23' wall 6"x1"-5/8 heavy gage studes with the self drilling screws attachement!! and let me tell you i'm sold on it. next pay i'm getting one!
You give the absolute best reviews , hands down... thanks ... keep it up!
Great review
Absolutely Awesome Presentation
I am someone who has hung thousands of drywall board's and used every one of thoose guns except the collated specific one I have to say hilti is best,, then milwaukke (not in this review) then makita. As a professional/journeyman I would recommend the new hilti 5000-a23 because it is so reliable good battery life and will drive any screw without cutting out. Its also 30% lighter than the old ones. Then again you should try to buy tools in which you already have batterys for. But if your someone who is new to hanging board/doing a home remodel i would say milwaukee. Just my opinion
I agree to a degree. It depends very much on how much the user is going to be using a tool. If it's going to be used by a drywall installer there is no choice it is just Hilti. All the others aren't up to it. But they are all fine for periodic use. The only one I haven't used is milwalkee but I'm 100% confident that it is on par or at best marginally better than the others. But for all day every day use. None will touch the Hilti. On top of which the Hilti contract lease system you can use is excellent for service leading to less down time and easy for companies to budget tool expenditure without any repair/replacement costs.
What about Bosch one?
Great head to head!
very good review nice job
That Makita feature is one that all the brands should employ.
Ur a putz like this guy
Good to know. I already had a lot of Dewalt tools so I bought their version along with the collated attachment. Also purchased their drywall cutout tool.
I’ve got 6 dewalt screwguns they are fucking amazing , just bought myself a Hilti gun today for a steal, can’t wait to compare the two
I own the dewalt version. Wondering if you recommend it for attaching 1/2" plywood instead of drywall? Going to plywood the interior walls of my insulated detached garage instead of drywall. Thinking of using 2" collated decking screws from senco. Any reason this won't work? I believe the specs on the dewalt say 2 1/2" capacity. Not sure that includes decking screws or even if the decking screw collated plastic is the same size/shape of the drywall collated screws. Any one have advice? Thanks in advance!
good job
First off: Excellent video I found it very insightful and useful. While I do not work the field I do repair tools for people who do work in the field and it is good to understand the aspects they value in tool design and performance.
Secondly: I have to take my hat off to the community in this comments section and the construction community overall. I have been in other communities both as a worker and as someone who frequents the internet and I have to say that overall this is the most mature, polite, and professional community I have found yet.
Lastly: While I and people I talk to on the field agree about the performance of DeWalt's screwgun, a common issue is the Spindle Sleeve (yellow funnel on the clutch) breaking and trapping bits in the clutch. I have yet to find a way to reattach/replace the Spindle Sleeve once this occurs beyond sending it back to DeWalt. If anyone has any insight into this problem can they please let me know?
I would have liked to see more on the performance of each tool. How well do they repeat on driving screws to a set depth. For the collated versions, how easy is it to load, how many screws per load (how often am I reloading). Those things enter into productivity as much as or more than the ergonomics of a tool.
great job, it is good to get a review of tools that is on the mark. Dewalt has a new screw gun on the line dcf624b look at it and see if it works like the others.
Best channel on tools by far.
Excellent job Robert, you are the best!
Walter from México
Why did you not include Makitas auto feed plasterbord gun, you included the one that has no auto feed attachment but they do a modle that is only the auto feed version, I only ask because you included the senco gun
can you tell me where I can buy the DeWalt and get the cut out tool, please cheers
i love bosch
What about festool and Hilti and magazine or collated strips and collated attachment?
Great review! Just bought the dewalt. Glad not to see the milwaukee... They probably will bring out 12v and 18 v plus 3 generations of screw guns in as many years!
Both my boschs died under a year, I bought a second hand hilti and a year and a half later it’s still going. The thing is a tank. I love makita too, I can get a bout a year 4 months with it. Dewalt is the the weakest. Tho it is Light weight n cheap, the screw depth adjusts as the battery life weakens. Bosch is an awesome gun but it didn’t last enough for 450$
Weird if you have 3 years warranty for bosch . .
Tried makita and borch and hilti, and hilti was just sooo good for me!
@tool box buzz:
PLEASE HELP- respond.
I bought the dewalt based on this video and i own other dewalt.
The senco floor screws are all #2 square drive. I can not find a bit to work in the drill. I have modified a bit that was too large diameter and slightly too long. But it does not feed right and jambs up.
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT BIT YOU GUYS USED IN THE VIDEO!
Just answering the question on the festool screw gun they can give a lot of trouble in regards to jamming,hilti are yer only man if you're hammering screws day in day out but they only take hilti collated stripes no other brand.I use the dewalt myself because it suited my budget & have been using the brand since the geggo so familiarity played a part in my purchase also.I'm an Irish plasterer by trade & work along side a lot of boarders & plasterers so get to see what everyone is using.Makita is another brand thats well used & as of yet I have'nt came across anyone using the bosch but it looks real good.Hope this helps & happy screwing!
do you reccomend the dewalt mate? I just sold my old Hilti and looking to upgrade... Not sure if I stick with Hilti or try dewalt
I do commercial roofing, I go from attaching plywood for roof deck lay overs or on walls for a clean surface to adhere to, attaching iso insulation, mechanical attachment of the roofing in plywood and metal roof decks, attaching the various accessories needed to make a roof water tight. In all these applications the dewalt works flawlessly. in our trade a source for power and enough cord is a problem, also untangling those cords an issue. I liked the one I boughted so much I bought two more, with a 5ah battery and a quick connect tip holder no job no matter the mechanical clutter is a problem.
My first collated gun was a Makita
As far as why not collated its pretty simple from the outset that the cost involved is around 300-400% more with collated Senco strips - area sensitive of course. But wait, theres more, if you do "piecing" specifically in closets, laundry closet, pantry, tight or odd/hard to reach areas, collated means bigger hassle. On top of that is jamming and malfunctioning. Its sad that the Metabo SE LTX 4000 was not included. For no collated 1/2 inch work on wood studs, the dewalt dcf620 (without collated attachment) running 4400 rpm, brushless, 2.0 ah slimpack battery, is the way to go. Hilti might be next up, running a brushed motor @ 4500 rpm. If doing gyprock 5/8 inch, depending on brand of input material and wood vs steel studs, a Makita XSF03 brushless @4000 will outbeat the Hilti and the Dewalt in performance as well as in the aftermath of fatigue feeling in your wrist. One Thing is for sure, the Dewalt DCS551 router is pretty much the best one out there. Nobody is forming line for the Makita vibrator.
Elgo Wiebe Senco in the test is 5000rpm
In order from best to worst , having used them all commercially. Based on weight, screwing speed, reliability and ergonomics.
1; Makita (they have a brush and brushless models which perform the same)
2; Dewalt
3; Hilti & Bosch are a tie in my opinion
4; everything else
how long did you use dewalt? I find that it's not consistent. Sometimes screw goes deep sometimes too shallow. If I need serious work I use corded makita
cb7pwn I would take the Bosch
I'm now convinced your blog is brand influenced. 6 years ago on a big drywall project I used a Senco autofeeder, which came with 2 cadmium batteries and a charger. The weight of the tool was actually lighter than my cordless cadmium DeWalt hammer/drill. Moreover, my only concern was, "would it sink a screw head the desired distance?" And on my first few tries it did not. However, then I realized I had it on the wrong setting. After that, "perfect" 1/16" depth every time. Hence, what more can you ask for when putting screw to drywall? That's a home run on every pitch. Furthermore, I could not believe the speed at which sheets of drywall were going up. There was one tiny flaw: the spent plastic belts created just enough counter torque on the aim of the last few screws. So, I experimented a little by cutting half the spent belt and there was not a single fail, even when the battery was going dead. Hence, I reported this to Senco and they were already on a solution. So I let everyone on my crew have a go of it and we ended up fighting over it. By the end of the build, our boss purchased 2 more and not a single report of flaws after I told them to cut their belts in half. So how can anyone beat that when it comes to putting up drywall?
Hilti is what we all uses for years on corded drywall guns .
Could someone explain the difference between impact driver, drill, and screw gun? I looked through UA-cam but couldn't find a good explanation. Why would you get a screw gun if you had a good impact driver?
jawojnicki drills are best for for drilling holes. Impacts will break a drill bit. Impacts have a hammer mechanism that drives big screws and the like extremely well without torquing your wrist like a drill. Lots of torque for deck screws, tap cons, etc. Screwguns like these have depth setters and the appropriate rpm and ergonomics for drywall screws. Hope that helps. If you have more questions go for it.
Sounds like you guys are all forward to Walt I had the DeWalt and I hated it switched to Milwaukee fuel and love it but that's what I had the best luck with
What abou festool or Milwaukee?
Festool ??? Is like Leica for cameras... made for lawyers.
@@DriversFromHere Lmaooo
What about the Milwaukee drywall gun ? I will make a video about it since I bought it yestery at TheHomeDepot :)
iBeAtz killa they are by far superior
Makita has attachment available now for screw feed...
Like most guys I run DeWalt so most guys on my crew all use DeWalt tools only one uses Milwaukee all around and one guy uses a hilti for drywall everything else he uses Ryobi. Up in Canada I have work d for one company who uses correlated screws the rest don't. So I do think it's a cost thing but also by region.
Do you know why they discontinue the Bosch drywall gun in North America
Has to be because I don’t think be ever seen one. Didn’t even know they made till I watched this video.
Why no Milwaukee? They are a very popular brand so why not include it in this comparison?
Damn this channel is serious about reviews
08:30 Another consideration for the Senco, for me anyway, would be I have no other tool that uses Senco batteries, so those 2 4AH batteries will only be used with that one tool. If I bought the DeWalt, even though it costs a little more, those batteries can power a dozen other DeWalt tools I already have. IF Senco had partnered with a big brand tool that did not offer their own screwgun and used the same battery, then they might do better in sales because they could sell the screwgun as a bare tool, no batteries, and be priced way lower or competitively with other brands plus have a higher profit margin as they would not have to include the battery and charger at a loss just to be competitive pricewise.
I not used a senco for a number of years but they used to be absolutely awful for jamming.
seeing how you holding the gun I am sceptic about your opinion. You obviously dont work in the field
Haha
My first thought
Yep
Literally took the words outta my mouth, I was wondering how I could give them any cresit
In USA you guys add only one Sheet of Drywal Plate
Great review but where is Milwaukee and kobalt cordless screw guns in this I feel Milwaukee might beat them all and kobalt is verry light so I believe reviews like this need to have all brands
Very good review guys.
hello my friend okay then I love to see your videos about the product senco screwdriver I thought it should be a good product and it should have a great productivity I live here in Brazil and I work with drywall here with no such tools but a day is going to be very expensive the taxes here costs the eye of our faces here kkk I would like to know of you for example if I were to buy from you one of those screwdriver drywall senco a the battery and another electric cable how many would cost each of these Two for you to send me here in Brazil Sao Paulo Capital Shipping and Freight ?? Thank you for understanding and attention, I await your reply, my friend
An experienced hanger can turn screws as fast if not faster than the collated gun. Alot of the guys shown weren't even holding the guns properly. I do like the dewalt. I know it is sturdy as I saw one fall 14 feet to a concrete floor suffering no damage. It's just my opinion and preference. Everybody has their own opinion.
Americans.... Smh.
Hilti has 2.6A slim packs...
the strips costs way more than the singles,I cheaper to use single screws or a nail gun.+ everywhere does not carry them they have to be ordered.
is this one can used in metal
yes
First off no one in this video knows how to properly use and hold a screw gun. As far as corralated screw gun ive never used one and it appears if you use one your probably not a real carpenter and just a drywaller or just someone who has a lot of money. Im a commercial carpenter in nyc its mainly steel framing nd drywalling, I have the makita and use it for both and wouldnt trade it for anything else. They don't take durability or price point into consideration. dewalts are made of mainly plastic and are meant to break if dropped and hiltis are just expensive and everybody on the job just trys to steal them. Hope this comment is helpful
In addition to my comment below I'd like to say that you can't assess just by trying that for the whole day. I like the idea of trying tools, it's really good and helps out people who are looking for new tools to buy. However when you use the tools every single day for years you face real situations and problems. What if you have the insulation pushing the drywall a lot and you need to screw very slow, makita is the worst for this, hilti is the best. What if the stud is off or the wood is harder and you need more power, dewalt doesn't have that power in low speed also for screwing double 5/8 with 2in screws, or screwing metal frames or resilient channel. The best people to try tools are the workers in the trade. This is just my opinion. I wish Toolboxbuzz the best :)
i love the guns, but why are you showing people using 'DRY-WALL' guns screwing down 'PLY-WOOD' flooring???? when there are flooring guns to screw plywood flooring!!! then in another part, 2:15 you show a picture of a hilti with an attachment for drywall, 2:19 and the next part is a video of a guy not using the tool you just showed.. how is that promoting the DRY WALL gun performance/attachments..huh!?
and after 4-5 boxes of coildscrews the nose on senco start to move and wabbule
+HogeN1337 And after 1 year we bought Makita's
This was the first generation Senco's and they where damn expensive ~10 year ago
+aaaaalllss :) i was smart after testing senco at work. I bought makita to myself :)
Talking about productivity, why wouldn't you use the collated...its a lot faster and but if you compare prices, its almost the same!
wait, what prices? of screws?
The screws are more expensive but your time... on the job is way more expensive so it works out cheaper in the long run
Almost all of my guys can hand feed screws faster than a collated system. If you don’t use them you get used to doing it fast by hand. Its not an un common thing for us at all. For a guy that goes from collated to hand feed it with be so slow but if you have always done it the right way then its really nothing. Im the Forman and i only get collated if we are doing large amount of celings or hanging type c rock on the ceiling which is way heavier
@@jimboneutron8399 it really depends on the job. I have the Bosch and i can be quick on single screws.
But if we do like 100+ feet hall ways and i don't need to switch screws for 2mm UA Profiles i use the magazine attachment.
People always claim they are faster but in reality they are only faster for like 2 to 4 sheets. Than they lose concistensy. And the most important is i don't have as much cramping hands
Old video include Milwaukee
I thought to be honest opinion on your part and I am in the business
Makiter?
They re all the same for the most part . I did my won comparisons with my impacts. From ryobi to de Walt . Milwaukee, etc.. That floor screwed is in a class of its own fellas .
Im woundering why you guys in the US dont't use colleted screws only. Here in Sweden the other guys on the worksite will look at you sideways if you dont collated screws. And we have used collated screwguns for a decade now. I notice in this Video that the guys using the guns dont use the topgrip on the guns the Dwalt, Makita, Hilti, And Bosch are made to lay inbetween the tumb and index finger. and not to hold in the handle. otherwise i really liked this video.
agreed mate. Here in Australia. its collated or nothing!
its cheaper, it never jams, its lighter and when drywalling in highrise buildings often you are in tight corners or behind pipes and the collated would not fit. in houses the drywallers pay for there screw and nails, so they nail the sheets and then go back and screw the middle of the sheets its not worth it for them to pay 3, 4 times for the screws. and a good drywaller here (canada) still manages to put up 80+ sheets a day.
Mattias Schill Using standard grip is good for demonstrating a screwgun's kick in videos.
Mattias Schill from the states, these guys are fools, you can't have a real opinion on ergonomics of a gun when you use it incorrectly, idk what the other guys are talking about either with nailing half and screwing half, I've been a union drywaller in Chicago and Seattle and that it not true lol, all screws, nails are a thing of the past. 100 sheets a day on t.i work tho
hairynose656 80+ indeed
I like festool screw gun
I have a Makita. Wouldn't trade it for anything else.
My co-worker saw my new Milwaukee drywall screw gun and he tryed it said it feels much better than his Makita and less feed issues with collated attachment.
Marc Chabot i agree.ive owned all except bosch and makita is still in the tool bag.dewalt is junk.milwaukee is wimpy.and hilti just blows
I hang drywall every single day we never use collated screws never use them never will I'm just as fast without it I started with corded now I'm only cordless the gun and the router these guys are holding gun wrong just for starters I started out with a DeWalt cordless then went to the Makita then went to the Milwaukee in between that I use the Hilti I'm with the Milwaukee right now for over a year and I love it all around minus that every now and then I have to take the cone off and push a screw in in the corners every now and then but I'm super fast with that gun I can't wait to try the Bosch would love for a chance to get a Bosch and some batteries to test out we do multi million-dollar houses every single day..and average home renovations ..long island ny
Why not the festool?
+red stihl Hilti beats Festool in every way so consider it below Hilti in their final evaluation, festool does have a auto run like makita does though, personally thats not a buying factor. You get 2 batterys one will always be charged and if you can use 2 full batterys in a day your simply making too much money and its time to go home.
Hilti is by far the best guns out there just because of the money it saves in the long run, they just refuse to die.
+aaaaalllss to be honest, I know nothing about these tools, but I guess that it wouldn't be festools strength as apposed to say, their track saw.
red stihl Festool is a really good gun but the hilti is better
What about the Milwaukee drywall gun ???except hinti. how can they beat milwaukee drywall gun?
I wonder why they are holding the screw guns wrong
I do dry wall and just got the dewalt gun today, that’s just how you hold a dry wall gun, see when you are driving a lot of screws the straiter your hand is to the screw the less change of the screw going in wrong. They are a very comfy gun to use
I would take the Bosch
I'm a drywall hanger and 10 years of experience I say that the best gun screw gun is Makita. all this attachments to pun on the screw gun don't work well like you see on the video. try it on the corners!!! other is the clutch gear on them. some screw gun Las one week some less. on video is so new guns is why they smooth but after days you will see the diferens. so if you want a good screw gun!! go Makita!! wort every peni!!!
i have the Bosch with magazine for like 4 years and its still going strong on daily use but i have to admit that i regulary maintain my gun 2 times per week and don't use it as my co workers as a hammer or throw it after we go for lunch.
A little gun oil and graphite poweder is all you need.
Makita does do a collated screw gun
barbellz
They do, but it's not cordless
the Eiger Advocate yea, they do have a cordless one
Chris Wright
They do indeed,
Thanks for the info 👍
the Eiger Advocate no problem
For Makita there is no concurent
I like how these guys are holding the screwguns wrong and not engaging the rocker switches.
Took for ever
Senco is simply the best. Add ons will fail in the long run. And i really don't understand why someone would buy a non-collated screw gun.
Milwaukee has pushed drive to
hilti and makita both make cut out tools. this evaluation is trash. hilti is the best gun. iv had all the tools discussed on here in real world application. hilti is king.
I own all but the Bosch. Each brand, I have one each. With exception to the Hilti, I have four of the collated versions with the stiff/ridgid strips. The Hilti is definitely King of The Hill in this comparison. I will admit that none are garbage, in my opinion....but the others have the flimsy strips...which are more prone to jams. Hilti is my go to for large jobs. Not even close...
I love my Bosch it's really nice drives screws like a dream and depth controll is really easy. It's small size makes it easy to screw corners and tops and lids are very nice. I've never used it's auto feed attachment I use the hilti autofeed.
DEWALT ALL THE WAY.
Hot tip gypsum dust in the eye is worse then death...
Fein screw gun is better..
Why didn’t you compare the best gun out there? The Milwaukee fuel with the auto start feature? My father is a die hard dewalt fan and owns the dewalt version. He agreed that my Milwaukee is far superior
Milwaukee is weak when u are driving. 1⅝ + screws on wood. It turns off its doesn't have the torque power for example if u do double layer drywall Milwaukee turns off on you driving in the double layer screws
@@giantgigante7725 no it doesn’t. My m18 fuel screwgun with 2.0 battery have no problem with 2inch going through 2 layers 5/8 on both res channel and wood.
No Milwaukee or Festool?
This review is not something I can take seriously.
I don't think the Milwaukee came out until 2016. I'm not sure why there's no festool
Had a Bosch. Burnt in a couple months. Waste of money. After I bought a makita and used it for a year. Then I bought a Milwaukee but it only lasted me 6 months. So now I'm back with makita.
No Milwaukee or Festool? Festool has low decibels
Remind the world never to buy a house that you built on cordless tools.
None of your guys know how to hold a screw gun they have no experience so this is inaccurate right away
The way you’re holding the screw gun gets me triggered and you obviously never worked with drywall...