You missed out on the grottoceratops having thagomizer - stegosaur tail spikes Edit- the nose on top of its head is a reference to the giraffotitan not brachiosaurus in which makes me think of Jurassic Parks brachiosaurus and not the real replica and the altatitan is a reference to argentinosaurus This is not to offend or hate these are just corrections
I like the fact that, the whole community and prob even the devs accepted that humans in the Minecraft World are just super smart I’m not complaining btw, it’s cool seeing civilizations soo smart yet still being met with extinction, only leaving traces behind, their twisted mindless versions called Enderman and us
This is a really good video, I like that you're making videos about minecraft mod lore, that's sick as. I did want to note however, that the moon didn't form from the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs, it likely formed from an exoplanet colliding with the earth early in its development.
This was actually really cool. Now, I'm expecting to see a deep dive into the Herobrine mod and its history along with its evolution throughout the years!
This is Definitely Accurate to the Reality of the Minecraft timeline and the Primal Man that left those structures and the Volcanos and The Luxtruckosaurus and the Extinction of the other species before the cave was a thing really adds up, I'm definitely all for this
@@CraftingTheoriesMy theory about the Lord Pumpkinhead boss from Born In Chaos is he’s some sort of spirit noble. I believe maybe he was part of an ancient builder community that survived past the attacks of the wither and warden and was the last of a line of nobles that had gone to the time where the Anceint Builders in the end became endermen as endermen attacked the noble as he was riding a horse and he put on a pumpkin to protect himself but it was too late.
Some of the mob have a hybrid design, and even some come from a mammal, grottoceratops horn are based on brontotherium, relicheirus bodu posture are funny enough based on a gorilla which people mistaken for a therizino posture, and trilo caris are...well trilobite and anomalocaris. One could do a creative freedom at doing a narrative for the hybrid, especially mammal one since there is a cave focused on prehistoric mammal (Cenozoic) which also more magic based than primordial caves
Well, I think you make a very good point about the species that each of them mobs represents. I think it's probably possible that they also exhibit troglodyteal dwarfism, Having adapted to the smaller environment and thus smaller food source.
One small detail many people would ignore but i actually have huge respect for including is calling the pterosaur mob a "flying reptilian" rather than a "flying dinosaur" since pterosaurs are not dinosaurs but a whole separate kind of animal
Here's a lore tangent (could very well be incredibly-inaccurate); is the Grottoceratops a modern decendant of Psittacosaurus? Okay so, Psittacosaurus was a Ceratopsian with dark brown and dark orange markings that it used for countershading, the Grottoceratops is a Ceratopsian with dark brown and dark orange markings and a greenish-golden underside, that is almost-certainly countershading. Another thing to note is that the Grottoceratops has very-pronounced metatarsals, making its legs almost look backward-bending, something other Ceratopsians of a similar size don't quite have, unlike Psittacosaurus, which _also_ had similarly-emphasized metatarsals. Typical large Ceratopsians also had short, basically-useless tails, meanwhile the Grottoceratops has long and strong tails that even possess Stegosaur-like thagomizers which it regularly-uses during combat (probably to defend its otherwise-exposed backside), and similarly, Psittacosaurus had defensive, bristle-like spines on its tail - is it possible that Psittacosaurus evolved its quills into thagomizers in the same vein to how Rhinos' horns are made of keratin?
I see a lot of paleo fails already First trilobites died out 252 million years ago, as a result of the Permian-Triassic mass extinction event, Eryops lived before the Triassic (from the Carboniferous [?] to the Early Permian), Labyrinthodonts aren’t even a valid group anymore, therapsids evolved in the Permian period, and them and other non-mammal synaspids are now called stem-mammals, not mammal-like reptiles, pudesosuchians didn’t evolve into dinosaurs, dinosaurs came from a separate branch of archosaurs, the same branch as pterosaurs (Avemetatarsalia, which I might have misspelt) instead pudesosuchians became the crocodilians that we have today (which were much more diverse in the Mesozoic, but their diversity began to decline in the Cenozoic until sometime in the Miocene epoch).
Also, all of the dinosaurs are confirmed to be descendants of the ones from the end Cretaceous of Mongolia (mainly in the Negmet formation), so no proceratosaurs, ceratopsids, or brachiosaurs, but YES tyrannosaurs, dromaeosaurs, leptoceratopsids, deinocheirids, and titanosaurs.
Most (if not all) creatures from the Primordial Caves are fusions of two or more extinct animals: grottoceratops is a ceratopsian with a thagomizer (the tail spikes from stegosaurs) and a horn that resemble that of the megacerops (an extinct rhino like mammal), the relicheirus resembles both the therizinosaurus and the deinocheirus (as stated in the video), the vallumraptor resembles dromaeosaur, a guanlong (as stated in the video) and also older depictions of ornitholestes (an important factor, since the Primordial Cave seem to draw a lot of inspiration from older paleomedia, such as Walking With Dinosaurs), the subterranodon has the beak of an anhanguerid pterosaur, the tail of an early pterosaur (such as a rhamphorhynchus or a dimorphodon) and the crest that resembles that of a geosternbergia (a now invalid genus, being considered another species of pteranodon), the atlatitan resembles various sauropods, such as the brachiosaurus (with the nostrils on top of the skulls being common in older depictions), the argentinosaurus and sauropods like amargasaurus or bajadasaurus for the neck spikes (which is also a trait of older depictions of the animals, since now they are thought to have had a sail covering those spikes), and the trilocaris is a clear fusion between a trilobite and an anomalocaris. The only inhabitant of the Primordial Cave that doesn't seem to be an actual fusion of animals is the tremorsaurus, which just resembles a generic tyrannosaur (though the comparison you made with the gorgosaurus is very valid, since both have those small spikes above the eyes, so maybe a tyrannosaurus and gorgosaurus fusion?)
I'd argue that the subterranodon is a lineage entirely unique to the caves. The presence of a developed tail means it's likely from dimorphodont or rhamphorhynchid ancestors, presumably the latter given it also has a beak. The beak's similarities to other pterosaurs would be convergent evolution. This means the subterranodon lineage hails from somewhere in the Jurassic.
Yes, the tail threw me for a loop. I would agree it’s quite reminiscent of a ramphorhyncoid, it was actually a part of the script before but it just felt like fluff so I took it out. The lineage could entirely be unique to the caves!
I actually think there wer 3 extinction events 1. The one simular to one on earth at the end of Cretaceous, that led Dinosaur to go underground (Relicantus Most Likely was already there before them). 2. Luxtructosaurus Event that led to Extinction of some Primodial Species. 3. The Piglin Invasion that forced people underground (Becouse of how deep Primodial caves are, rarer resources are eventually found. That Led to counterattach from ancient builders, pushing Piglins back to the nether).
I hope you succeed this is an interesting topic also with the fire fiasco you forgot one thing fire on netherack doesn't spread it stays where it is Edit: when he was talking about how there was probably more dinosaurs then what we see now made me some sad because they look so cool lol
The Luxtructosaurus isn't Atlatitan. Atlatitan have 4 neck bones and 3 back bones. But Luxtructosaurus have 1 less of each one. And the Cave Compendium says "When Luxtructosaurus killed, an extinct speices will appear in the Amber Monoliths." That speices is the Atlatitan.
No the luxtructosaurus is an atlatitan, it’s being vague so you collect more cave tablets to find out what that species is. The whole concept of the luxtructosaurus is based on a zombified argentinosaurus in the show Primal, where it kills off a lot of its own species
9:43 Those aren’t head feathers, those are crests. Also, I don’t think the Dinos of the Primordial caves replace actually replace real species, I think the real species existed at one point in time but when the asteroid hit the earth the Dinos escaped into the Caves where they evolved into new species.
This was the most accurate Lore i ever heard of Alex's Caves this deserve a sub, you will see me often on this channel. I have a theory about how amber sol formed, and its the same as yours, the only thing that made me blind is the creeper and enderman cave painting in the caveman houses. But you explain it i understand it, i can't wait for the next Theory on this channel! Keep it up dude!
Man I wish I could mod Java, because I would love to make a mod based on this theory, adding extinct species through the volcanic shards and new cave paintings to make sense I already know how to mod, it’s just that I only have access to bedrock and not Java, so I can’t try Alex Cave’s by myself and look into it’s code to know how to create a mod to it But you reading this knows how to mod and has Minecraft Java, please mod Alex’s Caves Let’s repeat the Create situation with Alex’s Caves, a mod getting mods
The reason I think you go faster in the nether is because it's under the world! If it's closer to the core of the earth then it's most likely smaller do to limited space. So I don't think it was the piglins who killed the dinosaurs! But also not a meteor.... A flood. If you belive the ice age Nether theory (in which people theorize that the nether had an ice age...) Then the minecraft earth is warming up! Which in doing so, melts the snowy and frozen biomes, as well as the mountain tops... Even though it must have not been a large flood due to the larger amount of CO2 decreasing the amount of ice....there is evidence that leads to the distance of ice at the primordial time period (such as the tremorsaurus and atlatitan variants having blue mouths, which happens to an animal when they live in a cloud inviorment, such as the polar bear). So it was a small flood... But still at least 10-30 blocks tall. A flood that large is sure to make somewhat a mass extinction! That's it... Sorry for the paragraph... If your reading this then I'm happy you like reading! I'm happy to make a comment on one of the first minecraft mod lore videos! This is taz (also know a Dino "not my real name... Neither is taz") signing out! HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
Yaeh, no. The Psudosuchians gave rise do modern crocodiles, not dinosaurs. Dinosaurs real backstory is actually a lot like mammals, they started out as small animals hiding in the shadow and then when a mass extinction wiped out most of the bigger animals they swept in for the crown
as a biology nerd i can confidently say that the pseudosuchians didnt evolve into the dinosaurs, infact dinosaurs already existed during the triassic.
True
Plus pseudosuchians are a species of archosaurs not dinosaurs
As a paleontologist I can confirm this
True
You missed out on the grottoceratops having thagomizer - stegosaur tail spikes
Edit- the nose on top of its head is a reference to the giraffotitan not brachiosaurus in which makes me think of Jurassic Parks brachiosaurus and not the real replica and the altatitan is a reference to argentinosaurus
This is not to offend or hate these are just corrections
I like the fact that, the whole community and prob even the devs accepted that humans in the Minecraft World are just super smart
I’m not complaining btw, it’s cool seeing civilizations soo smart yet still being met with extinction, only leaving traces behind, their twisted mindless versions called Enderman and us
This is a really good video, I like that you're making videos about minecraft mod lore, that's sick as.
I did want to note however, that the moon didn't form from the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs, it likely formed from an exoplanet colliding with the earth early in its development.
*protoplanet, it was in the Solar System
@@din0boy1studios56 Yeee, thats the word I was looking for. Thx
A candy cavity theory would be cool.
Lore-based theory about my favorite Minecraft mod AND bits of dinosaur education?! Sign me up!
Too bad that most of the dinosaur knowledge is wrong.
@@glarnboudin4462
Because it's intentional? You even payed attention to the mod?
Last time I checked... Tremorsauruses didn't exist
I was watching your video while making a fanart of primordial caves, good video for being your first
I hope I could have inspired you further!
Maybe talking about the concept art animals could work, there's a spinosaur, hadrosaur, azdarchid, pelycosaur and oviraptorid.
This is really good, definitely will be hoping to see the other biomes covered!
Amazing!! I can't wait to see more of how this story expands.
brodie really came out of nowhere and dropped a banger
holy crap it’s MinePat
Bro, MatPat has a lot of Minecraft videos, but your right, he IS MinePat
Bros first upload is a banger
This was actually really cool. Now, I'm expecting to see a deep dive into the Herobrine mod and its history along with its evolution throughout the years!
I love this concept video, canonized the many mods into Minecraft based off other mods together is PEAK
Super underated!
This is Definitely Accurate to the Reality of the Minecraft timeline and the Primal Man that left those structures and the Volcanos and The Luxtruckosaurus and the Extinction of the other species before the cave was a thing really adds up, I'm definitely all for this
Very well edited tbh 🗿
Can’t believe I stumbled upon a brand new channel. Very well made video looking forward for what other content you make in the future
Very cool video could you make a Theory about the mobs from the born in chaos mod
I'll put it in the list!
@@CraftingTheoriesMy theory about the Lord Pumpkinhead boss from Born In Chaos is he’s some sort of spirit noble. I believe maybe he was part of an ancient builder community that survived past the attacks of the wither and warden and was the last of a line of nobles that had gone to the time where the Anceint Builders in the end became endermen as endermen attacked the noble as he was riding a horse and he put on a pumpkin to protect himself but it was too late.
Some of the mob have a hybrid design, and even some come from a mammal, grottoceratops horn are based on brontotherium, relicheirus bodu posture are funny enough based on a gorilla which people mistaken for a therizino posture, and trilo caris are...well trilobite and anomalocaris.
One could do a creative freedom at doing a narrative for the hybrid, especially mammal one since there is a cave focused on prehistoric mammal (Cenozoic) which also more magic based than primordial caves
Convergent evolution?
amazing video
and
you mention the 6th cave coming out soon, and then it released right after this video came out
Bro PLEASE make more theory vids about modded minecraft, its such a cool idea.
So when can we expect another awesome video
Well, I think you make a very good point about the species that each of them mobs represents. I think it's probably possible that they also exhibit troglodyteal dwarfism, Having adapted to the smaller environment and thus smaller food source.
12:03 the crest of brachiosaurs is a lot flatter, giraffatitan has the large crest so that's a better match.
I like this concept. Now I'm curious to hear about the twilight forest lore.
In a world where most of Matpat’s videos would be primarily focused on Minecraft…
This was really cool, hope to see the next vid
Great video we need more 👍
Amazing job dude. Keep it up. I'm subscribing
Do one about ender's cataclysm!!
Oh and tremorzilla!!
This video was a great watch, hope you make it big man!
As a small UA-camr and editor, this editing is amazing!
One small detail many people would ignore but i actually have huge respect for including is calling the pterosaur mob a "flying reptilian" rather than a "flying dinosaur" since pterosaurs are not dinosaurs but a whole separate kind of animal
Here's a lore tangent (could very well be incredibly-inaccurate); is the Grottoceratops a modern decendant of Psittacosaurus? Okay so, Psittacosaurus was a Ceratopsian with dark brown and dark orange markings that it used for countershading, the Grottoceratops is a Ceratopsian with dark brown and dark orange markings and a greenish-golden underside, that is almost-certainly countershading. Another thing to note is that the Grottoceratops has very-pronounced metatarsals, making its legs almost look backward-bending, something other Ceratopsians of a similar size don't quite have, unlike Psittacosaurus, which _also_ had similarly-emphasized metatarsals. Typical large Ceratopsians also had short, basically-useless tails, meanwhile the Grottoceratops has long and strong tails that even possess Stegosaur-like thagomizers which it regularly-uses during combat (probably to defend its otherwise-exposed backside), and similarly, Psittacosaurus had defensive, bristle-like spines on its tail - is it possible that Psittacosaurus evolved its quills into thagomizers in the same vein to how Rhinos' horns are made of keratin?
I see a lot of paleo fails already
First trilobites died out 252 million years ago, as a result of the Permian-Triassic mass extinction event, Eryops lived before the Triassic (from the Carboniferous [?] to the Early Permian), Labyrinthodonts aren’t even a valid group anymore, therapsids evolved in the Permian period, and them and other non-mammal synaspids are now called stem-mammals, not mammal-like reptiles, pudesosuchians didn’t evolve into dinosaurs, dinosaurs came from a separate branch of archosaurs, the same branch as pterosaurs (Avemetatarsalia, which I might have misspelt) instead pudesosuchians became the crocodilians that we have today (which were much more diverse in the Mesozoic, but their diversity began to decline in the Cenozoic until sometime in the Miocene epoch).
Also, all of the dinosaurs are confirmed to be descendants of the ones from the end Cretaceous of Mongolia (mainly in the Negmet formation), so no proceratosaurs, ceratopsids, or brachiosaurs, but YES tyrannosaurs, dromaeosaurs, leptoceratopsids, deinocheirids, and titanosaurs.
That means that the Tremorsaurus might be a descendant of Alioramus or Tarbosaurus (I bet my money on Alioramus)
Most (if not all) creatures from the Primordial Caves are fusions of two or more extinct animals: grottoceratops is a ceratopsian with a thagomizer (the tail spikes from stegosaurs) and a horn that resemble that of the megacerops (an extinct rhino like mammal), the relicheirus resembles both the therizinosaurus and the deinocheirus (as stated in the video), the vallumraptor resembles dromaeosaur, a guanlong (as stated in the video) and also older depictions of ornitholestes (an important factor, since the Primordial Cave seem to draw a lot of inspiration from older paleomedia, such as Walking With Dinosaurs), the subterranodon has the beak of an anhanguerid pterosaur, the tail of an early pterosaur (such as a rhamphorhynchus or a dimorphodon) and the crest that resembles that of a geosternbergia (a now invalid genus, being considered another species of pteranodon), the atlatitan resembles various sauropods, such as the brachiosaurus (with the nostrils on top of the skulls being common in older depictions), the argentinosaurus and sauropods like amargasaurus or bajadasaurus for the neck spikes (which is also a trait of older depictions of the animals, since now they are thought to have had a sail covering those spikes), and the trilocaris is a clear fusion between a trilobite and an anomalocaris. The only inhabitant of the Primordial Cave that doesn't seem to be an actual fusion of animals is the tremorsaurus, which just resembles a generic tyrannosaur (though the comparison you made with the gorgosaurus is very valid, since both have those small spikes above the eyes, so maybe a tyrannosaurus and gorgosaurus fusion?)
I'd argue that the subterranodon is a lineage entirely unique to the caves. The presence of a developed tail means it's likely from dimorphodont or rhamphorhynchid ancestors, presumably the latter given it also has a beak. The beak's similarities to other pterosaurs would be convergent evolution. This means the subterranodon lineage hails from somewhere in the Jurassic.
Yes, the tail threw me for a loop. I would agree it’s quite reminiscent of a ramphorhyncoid, it was actually a part of the script before but it just felt like fluff so I took it out. The lineage could entirely be unique to the caves!
What a lovely video!
You've had by cerosity, but now you have my attention.
I will be watching your channel with great interest.
Great first video!!!
This is so well done. Cant wait to see more!
i have subscribed
I actually think there wer 3 extinction events
1. The one simular to one on earth at the end of Cretaceous, that led Dinosaur to go underground (Relicantus Most Likely was already there before them).
2. Luxtructosaurus Event that led to Extinction of some Primodial Species.
3. The Piglin Invasion that forced people underground (Becouse of how deep Primodial caves are, rarer resources are eventually found. That Led to counterattach from ancient builders, pushing Piglins back to the nether).
1:40 bad timing they just added a six one
this deserves more than 72 likes and other people should do stuff like this also.
I hope you succeed this is an interesting topic also with the fire fiasco you forgot one thing fire on netherack doesn't spread it stays where it is
Edit: when he was talking about how there was probably more dinosaurs then what we see now made me some sad because they look so cool lol
This is gonna become an amazing channel
The Luxtructosaurus isn't Atlatitan. Atlatitan have 4 neck bones and 3 back bones. But Luxtructosaurus have 1 less of each one. And the Cave Compendium says "When Luxtructosaurus killed, an extinct speices will appear in the Amber Monoliths." That speices is the Atlatitan.
No the luxtructosaurus is an atlatitan, it’s being vague so you collect more cave tablets to find out what that species is. The whole concept of the luxtructosaurus is based on a zombified argentinosaurus in the show Primal, where it kills off a lot of its own species
also the atlititan is called the non-possessed version of the luxtructosaurus in the cave compendium
9:43 Those aren’t head feathers, those are crests. Also, I don’t think the Dinos of the Primordial caves replace actually replace real species, I think the real species existed at one point in time but when the asteroid hit the earth the Dinos escaped into the Caves where they evolved into new species.
The idea that we are looking at the nether in the past... just a cool idea, oh my goodness!
I wish alexs caves was on minecraft pe
This got me intrigued
Bro locked in for his first upload
well this looks dope
This was the most accurate Lore i ever heard of Alex's Caves this deserve a sub, you will see me often on this channel. I have a theory about how amber sol formed, and its the same as yours, the only thing that made me blind is the creeper and enderman cave painting in the caveman houses. But you explain it i understand it, i can't wait for the next Theory on this channel! Keep it up dude!
Man I wish I could mod Java, because I would love to make a mod based on this theory, adding extinct species through the volcanic shards and new cave paintings to make sense
I already know how to mod, it’s just that I only have access to bedrock and not Java, so I can’t try Alex Cave’s by myself and look into it’s code to know how to create a mod to it
But you reading this knows how to mod and has Minecraft Java, please mod Alex’s Caves
Let’s repeat the Create situation with Alex’s Caves, a mod getting mods
Could you perhaps have the mod comissioned?
Do more AC please.
Nice video! Can't wait to see more
I feel like these would be called Minosaurs, due to the creatures' names being various puns on dinosaur names and different words for cavernous areas.
Very interesting! Like it 👍
Damm this is amazing, cant wait to see the next one!
*_Take up the mantle...as the theory's old ruler hath passed it too..._*
I’ll never live up to that name! But I hope I can serve as an inspiration as they did for me!
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Hearting/replying to comments boosts videos in the algorithm.
The reason I think you go faster in the nether is because it's under the world! If it's closer to the core of the earth then it's most likely smaller do to limited space. So I don't think it was the piglins who killed the dinosaurs! But also not a meteor.... A flood. If you belive the ice age Nether theory (in which people theorize that the nether had an ice age...) Then the minecraft earth is warming up! Which in doing so, melts the snowy and frozen biomes, as well as the mountain tops... Even though it must have not been a large flood due to the larger amount of CO2 decreasing the amount of ice....there is evidence that leads to the distance of ice at the primordial time period (such as the tremorsaurus and atlatitan variants having blue mouths, which happens to an animal when they live in a cloud inviorment, such as the polar bear). So it was a small flood... But still at least 10-30 blocks tall. A flood that large is sure to make somewhat a mass extinction! That's it... Sorry for the paragraph... If your reading this then I'm happy you like reading! I'm happy to make a comment on one of the first minecraft mod lore videos! This is taz (also know a Dino "not my real name... Neither is taz") signing out! HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
Here before this channel blows up
na im pretty sure its golden ingots 17:55
This is correct! I was thinking of the former recipe of golden apples, my apologies.
@@CraftingTheories u said gold ingots tho, its just the picture
relicheirus might just be a mix of deinocheirus and theri if you look at the body.
Yaeh, no. The Psudosuchians gave rise do modern crocodiles, not dinosaurs. Dinosaurs real backstory is actually a lot like mammals, they started out as small animals hiding in the shadow and then when a mass extinction wiped out most of the bigger animals they swept in for the crown
I need you to oil up real quick.
i fw it
Nice
50th subscriber lets go
Yall skip his science section its mostly inaccurate