Amazes me how the pocket edition boss had better dialogue. Noctis tells Ardyn mid fight he still sees the good in him and wants him to abandon his rage and find peace. And Ardyn...he sounds like he's seconds away from crying. Especially when he screams at Noctis "I hate you". You can hear his voice crack, like he's going to break down in tears. The fight was just better emotionally in the Pocket Edition. In Noctis, you can hear the guilt and remorse for Ardyn suffering. And in Ardyn, you can feel the pain, sadness and anger he keeps bottled up.
Śãīłør Šâïx happens when your brother kills your loved one and takes away everything that was meant to for you, and this is his descendent while he wiped you from history.
I remember when this dialogue first came out, and so many people kept claiming it made Ardyn sound more like a cartoon supervillain cursing out the hero... but knowing what we know now with Episode Ardyn, it makes perfect sense. The guy feels hatred which only kept getting worse and worse by the time those ten years were to pass. He had his throne robbed by his brother, and he was demonized by his people. He had been chained and locked up for years, only to eventually come to learn that even the gods made him as nothing more than a pawn in their game. In this scene, especially where Noctis is dealing the killing blows, you can feel the resentment Ardyn has for the Gods, and has for his own brother's family line. The hatred that manifested itself for centuries is fully coming out, hence why the man lost all composure that he had. Hearing these lines, and keeping Episode Ardyn in mind just makes me feel as if this is my favorite final fantasy villain of all time.
Ardyn is not a “villain” he is an antagonist and a tragic character, honestly FFXV is full of so most wasted stuff because Nomura was kicked of the Versus XIII Project.
I never see anyone talk about this, so maybe I'm just crazy. But personally I think the extra dialogue in this fight really muddles Ardyn's motivations. I was always under the impression when I played the base game that Ardyn was doing what the Gods wanted because he WANTED to die. Yes, he wanted his revenge against his brother's bloodline, but in that way he was killing two birds with one stone. My assumption was that Ardyn essentially won in the end, because he got both vengeance and release from his curse. And that the Dawn of the Future timeline was meant to set itself apart by being the timeline where Ardyn chose to defy his fate as the sacrificial lamb. Lines like, "Vengeance was to at last be mine, if not for you," kind of throw a wrench and that and, dare I say, make Ardyn look silly. Are we then supposed to assume that Ardyn was seeking revenge against the Gods all along and actually believed he could beat Noctis by just doing exactly what the Gods wanted? Everyone praises this extra dialogue, but it doesn't make any sense to me and, in my opinion, makes Ardyn's character arc worse.
@@SirMoFoDans4 Guess it's not just me, then lol. Most people I've seen address it seem to think it would have made this moment work better in the original game --- and I kind of thought that the first time I heard it. But then I thought about what these lines actually meant beyond the surface-level and came to the conclusion that they made no sense.
Yes, it's called FFXV Pocket Edition and it was released one year ago by Square Enix. You can find it now on touch pad, PC and game consoles. The first chapter is free but you have to pay for the others. All FFXV is in the Pocket Edition except the part from the Royal Edition, but they added some novel details like the area along Shiva's corpse and a few lines of dialogues in the last battle ^^
![FINAL FANTASY XV [FR] - Ep.Ardyn - Regis and Somnus battles](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SjBJDRv9SSM/mqdefault.jpg)
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Amazes me how the pocket edition boss had better dialogue. Noctis tells Ardyn mid fight he still sees the good in him and wants him to abandon his rage and find peace. And Ardyn...he sounds like he's seconds away from crying. Especially when he screams at Noctis "I hate you". You can hear his voice crack, like he's going to break down in tears. The fight was just better emotionally in the Pocket Edition. In Noctis, you can hear the guilt and remorse for Ardyn suffering. And in Ardyn, you can feel the pain, sadness and anger he keeps bottled up.
This battle hurt me so much emotionally, neither of them deserved this shit. Fuckin Bahamut.
These extra lines man. Ardyn's lost the chill and we see the madness.
Śãīłør Šâïx happens when your brother kills your loved one and takes away everything that was meant to for you, and this is his descendent while he wiped you from history.
I remember when this dialogue first came out, and so many people kept claiming it made Ardyn sound more like a cartoon supervillain cursing out the hero... but knowing what we know now with Episode Ardyn, it makes perfect sense. The guy feels hatred which only kept getting worse and worse by the time those ten years were to pass. He had his throne robbed by his brother, and he was demonized by his people. He had been chained and locked up for years, only to eventually come to learn that even the gods made him as nothing more than a pawn in their game. In this scene, especially where Noctis is dealing the killing blows, you can feel the resentment Ardyn has for the Gods, and has for his own brother's family line. The hatred that manifested itself for centuries is fully coming out, hence why the man lost all composure that he had. Hearing these lines, and keeping Episode Ardyn in mind just makes me feel as if this is my favorite final fantasy villain of all time.
Ardyn is not a “villain” he is an antagonist and a tragic character, honestly FFXV is full of so most wasted stuff because Nomura was kicked of the Versus XIII Project.
10:42 I felt that...
I never see anyone talk about this, so maybe I'm just crazy. But personally I think the extra dialogue in this fight really muddles Ardyn's motivations. I was always under the impression when I played the base game that Ardyn was doing what the Gods wanted because he WANTED to die. Yes, he wanted his revenge against his brother's bloodline, but in that way he was killing two birds with one stone. My assumption was that Ardyn essentially won in the end, because he got both vengeance and release from his curse. And that the Dawn of the Future timeline was meant to set itself apart by being the timeline where Ardyn chose to defy his fate as the sacrificial lamb.
Lines like, "Vengeance was to at last be mine, if not for you," kind of throw a wrench and that and, dare I say, make Ardyn look silly. Are we then supposed to assume that Ardyn was seeking revenge against the Gods all along and actually believed he could beat Noctis by just doing exactly what the Gods wanted? Everyone praises this extra dialogue, but it doesn't make any sense to me and, in my opinion, makes Ardyn's character arc worse.
That was _exactly_ what I was thinking when I first heard the extra dialogue.
@@SirMoFoDans4 Guess it's not just me, then lol. Most people I've seen address it seem to think it would have made this moment work better in the original game --- and I kind of thought that the first time I heard it. But then I thought about what these lines actually meant beyond the surface-level and came to the conclusion that they made no sense.
reminds me of Bravely Default with the models
Ardyn hates his own family, jeez.
Can't blame the guy when his own brother dethrones and casts him into exile.
@@ureshiiiiii God's rejected him for doing what he was told
@@Mav10 Both of you are correct
It's not that it's new dialogue. Its just that thg hey didn't really develop it right in the actual game
9:25 naruto is dat u?
0:12 do a twirl ardyn ~😂
Is that a FF 15 chibi version???
Yes, it's called FFXV Pocket Edition and it was released one year ago by Square Enix. You can find it now on touch pad, PC and game consoles. The first chapter is free but you have to pay for the others. All FFXV is in the Pocket Edition except the part from the Royal Edition, but they added some novel details like the area along Shiva's corpse and a few lines of dialogues in the last battle ^^
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