This is definitely refreshing. Most theories I see about Ganondorf in OoT (those few there are ) seem to be that Ganondorf actually has good intentions and just wants to free his people. In reality, he could not care less about the Gerudo. He is in it for himself only.
I found something that seems to match up with your theory of Ganondorf trying to pierce the sky and break into the heavens. While it's not an officially canon game, the first Hyrule Warriors game presents itself as taking place in a version of the Child Timeline set a very long time after Twilight Princess, featuring the same Ganondorf from both that game and the Child split ending of Ocarina of Time. And in that first Hyrule Warriors game, Ganondorf captures Hyrule Castle for himself. During the final battle between him and all the good guys, we are shown that the conquered Hyrule Castle has been affected by Ganondorf's power, which is represented by several gigantic evil-looking swords that have been jabbed into either the ground or into various structures surrounding the castle, with the biggest sword of all jabbed into Hyrule Castle itself, right in front of the castle's central tower. When we see this giant sword embedded in the castle, the very end tip of the sword's handle points upward into the sky and is surrounded by a vortex that looks eerily similar to the one seen in the Adult portion of Ocarina of Time, only with this vortex colored gray instead of in the colors of the Sages' energy (but that can be explained by Ganondorf having to use his own dark power to generate the sky-piercing vortex since there weren't any Sage temples in Hyrule Warriors). And when Hyrule Castle is retaken by the good guys in the final battle, the giant sword is magically lifted up and removed from the castle. Once the sword then disappears, so too does the sky-piercing vortex vanish and return back to being a normal sky. It's almost as if Ganondorf in this game wanted to continue his original plan from Ocarina of Time before his plans were averted in the Child split ending, making the sky-piercing vortex of Hyrule Warriors be a long time coming for the Child Timeline version of Ganondorf.
It was always my theory that the "sage rooms" in Ganondorfs Castle held the spirits of previous sages, who had been bested by the creatures that infiltrated their respective temples in an attempt to reach the sacred realm again and lay claim to it and the powers that still lie there. That's why it's the new sage that breaks each of the connectors to the central tower, their presence in the temple allows the previous sages spirit to fully pass on now their untethered from the towers grasp. Really cool to come across a theory that makes sense with my own headcanon, you've got a follow from me, great video guys.
The vortex above Ganondorf's Castle could have been his way to maintain connection to the Sacred Realm that had been twisted into a nightmarish hellscape (and where Ganondorf was continuing his onslaught upon the remaining Temple of Light).
By the way, I had an idea for something you could do for a future video. You could do a theory vid about the fates of the ocarina sages. Obviously the theory of “they died” is an old one but there’s a lot of both confirming, and contradicting evidence out there. It would be cool to see a video of your take on it. Possibly pulling sources from things like the OOT manga adaptation, interviews, and such
Soo... being ganon was ganon (dragmire) he was around when the zonai walked hyrule. that being said, we all know there are sky islands up there that we couldn't reach way back then in oot. This is a beautiful theory that adds so much more to oot than originally thought. So much potential..
Great theory and video. I had never noticed the energy running up the castle, or even considered that there was a portal above it. As an alternative to trying to reach the gods (a very Tower of Babel idea), maybe Ganondorf is trying to reach the Chamber of the Sages, where the last Sage is holding out against him. Just a thought.
I never noticed it because I'm pretty sure it didn't exist in the original N64 version, and I never played the 3ds version. Thats also likely why nobody has mentioned it before now.
The pool under the castle always looked like lava to me. However since I am used to the original N64 aspects it is possible that it looks different on the 3DS version, which is what you used here.
@@viewer6152Fun fact: malice lore actually comes from Link to the Past. Also, there is script on the carpet in the Temple of Time in OoT that, when translated, mentions malice.
@@hintonempire1178dear lord, please leave the Malice theories where they belong... that is, on BOTW videos. It doesn't exist anywhere else, it's not actually seen in any other game, the word 'malice' is just a descriptor.
@@literallyanangrymoose7717 That is completely incorrect. Even in games as recent as Skyward Sword, there are items called Evil Crystals which are described as crystallized monster malice in the game. Why would you state such blatantly false information?
I never watch video game video's all the way through, but this one was great to watch. My personal opinion on this subject is that Ganondorf has always wanted the triforce pieces for himself which to him was the ultimate power. In every Zelda game he always captures Zelda which has the triforce of Wisdom and Link is the hero of the game which has the triforce of Courage and Ganondorf has the last triforce which is Power. When all 3 of them are in the same room, Ganondorf thinks he can force the triforce pieces off of them and all 3 pieces will be his to do whatever he wants. But it never go that way for him. I do like the portal idea. That one was good to me. Anything is possible in video games.
It would make sense that Ganondorf wouldn't make a barrier of his own power like in WW. That barrier shattered easily to the Master Sword, which OOT Ganondorf knew Link possessed.
I always assumed what was under Hyrule Castle in OoT was supposed to be lava, but it never did look right to me. Gloom is an interesting theory because it really is the same exact shades! And as far as the colored vortex being an attempt at a portal… I could totally see it being an attempt to get to the Sacred Realm. You’re right about the swirling masses of colors when traveling dimensions being a recurring theme. I know you said you didn’t want to get into the similarities between TotK’s Dorf and OoT/the rest of Zelda’s, but I really do think the recurring themes between both are huge. In both he’s: After an object of great power Hails from the Gerudo but seems to lose all connection to them after attacking Hyrule A length of time passes where he knows about Link before their fated duel Effortlessly overpowers all other Sages except Rauru, who is the only one keeping him from complete domination Feigns fealty to the King of Hyrule, with Zelda being the only one who seems to get how dangerous he is I think this means we can put a bunch of other pieces together between both sets of games as well: It’s definitely Gloom under both Hyrule Castles He’s not at full strength when we fight him in either Demon King Dorf’s similarity to Demise is huge and definitely seems to mean that still happened He seems to lose himself in beast form in OoT, similar to the Calamity Ganon and the Demon Dragon He’s simply insatiable. He can conquer the entire world, fill the land with monsters and it’s simply never enough. In TP, he’s extra malicious and angry bc in that timeline he never even got to carry out his plan back in OoT. In WW he did manage to, but was defeated by Adult Link, and had dare I say a much gloomier disposition? Like mans just wanted his home back. Both fit in BotW/TotK’s Dorf, with both Malice and Gloom being physical manifestations of his emotions as he did not manage to accomplish his goals fully, but came so frustratingly close. I think there’s much more that can be extrapolated from this framework, but I’m tired and don’t think I’m the best person to come up with it right now, but I do think TotK’s flashback Dorf and OoT’s Dorf really do teach us about eachother
At least it's not a theory claiming Ganondorf being a Good Guy wanting to free his People. To those I point out the Backstory of A Link to the Past where Ganondorf slaughtered his followers that were witnessing the Triforce alongside him.
Ha, indeed. We commented on that common theory in our last video where we debunked pre-release TOTK Theories. People who push that idea have a fundamental misunderstanding of who Ganondorf is. No harm in silly personal headcanon but when you're frontlining a serious theory about Ganondorf teaming up with Link to fight evil, it's a little much.
I never understood this "ganon only wants to free his people". I think people remember ww ganondorf talking abou his people living in The desert and coveting hyrules fields Wind. They seem to forget that was adult timeline ganondorf, who got to rule for 7 years, destroyed castle town, cursed the winds of hyrule fields with ghosts and left his people exactly where they were, in The harsh desert. He is a hypocrite
Interesting. 😮 I never would have guessed that Ganondorf had the ambition to build a portal to the Sacred Realm. I always thought that the swirling energy above the castle was just his way of asserting dominance over Hyrule. Listening to this explanation makes sense to me, especially after I originally played A Link To The Past. Perhaps when Ganondorf obtains the full Triforce, he uses the portal that he created to enter the Sacred Realm and transform it into the Dark World. 🤔
What if Ganondorf’s plan wasn’t to destroy the gods, but to take their power for himself? If I recall, OoT mentioned that the Triforce was left where the goddesses departed from the world. Could it be possible that he was trying to recreate that departure to potentially create a second Triforce? Or even forcibly pull the gods back into the world?
This is an interesting theory. I always remembered the vortex of swirling colors but never put together that he was using the sage's power to open a portal to the gods. Would this be an alternative path to the Sacred Realm where Link was sealed away? Zelda and the sages end up trapping him here anyway in a different area. Or is this a different place?
Ganondorf's initial ambition was to take control over 'the United Kingdom of Hyrule.' After succeeding in that task, he then wanted control over the whole world. He was already a king in his own right as 'King of the Gerudo.' But, based on every story and character detail we can extract in-story from 'Ocarina of Time,' we can deduce how and why he was not wholly satisfied with simply ruling over his own indigenous Gerudo culture. 'The Hylians' are the superior race, in which they can hear the voices of the gods. This one detail would create enmity in Ganondorf for Hylians. Also, he was raised in a society of women. He was deprived of any strong and wholesome male example in his rearing and was the sole lone wolf in his kingdom. Meaning, there was not a father figure in his upbringing to teach him how to be a man, in especially an honourable one. Koume and Kotake were his guardians, witches which taught him how to hate and to use magic or witchcraft to brainwash and subjugate people. By this, his personal psychology becomes perverted. His own inability to conquer himself drives him to be a conqueror, yet not 'by right of conquest,' but to oppress and subjugate with tyranny. Ganondorf is a wounded man, striving to be at the absolute top over all people and all things. In his training to assume his Gerudo kingship, he was probably consistently berated about being the only male Gerudo and that it was his lawful birthright to assume the throne. Before his state visit with 'the King of Hyrule,' Ganondorf had already traversed 'the land of Hyrule' in search of all possible clues regarding 'the TriForce.' He may have wanted to prove himself worthy of being the Gerudo's king, yet when he learned of the possibility he could attain more power, his ambition for rulership grew to his aggrandizement. And, although firstly keeping with the custom and history of maintaining the Gerudo throne as its surviving male issue, Ganondorf believed that he could expand his destiny beyond his native homeland's 'Estates of the Realm.' Sadly, during all of this, there was no one in his life who truly cared about his overall well-being, to satiate or restrain him. But, another detail about his role in his nation is that of High Priest. 'The King of the Gerudo' serves as their Sovereign as well as spiritual leader. Whilst serving dual offices, he already has the right to command respect. When Ganondorf comes of age, he is already an accomplished swordsman, and an excellent warrior as he helped win the peace in 'the Hyrulean Civil War.' After betraying 'the King of Hyrule,' Ganondorf seizes control over Hyrule politically and militarily. He soon after goes on to invade 'the Sacred Realm' after Link pulls 'the Master Sword' from 'the Pedestal of Time.' When touching 'the TriForce,' he only obtains 'the TriForce of Power.' He cannot obtain 'the true TriForce to rule over all' for two reasons: his heart is not in balance, lacking wisdom and courage, and he is not a Hylian. Trying to gain 'the True TriForce' was already futile and his desire to rule over the whole world causes him to literally lose his humanity. When the Gerudo man 'Ganondorf Dragmire' passes away, he is manifested in to a monster named Ganon, which means 'thief.' His humanity is not only lost, it is stolen. Zelda laments over Ganondorf as being pitiful because his desire to hold and control the powers of the gods was doomed from the start and too many suffered needlessly. As for the barriers in 'Ganon's Tower,' they were created by 'the King of Evil' using 'the TriForce of Power' to restrain the power of the sages from liberating themselves and the kingdom. Because Link conquered Hyrule's various Temples, winning the medallions from the Sages were not only tokens of his success but they were bequeathing power they still had to 'the Hero of Time' as prophesied. Link could only have rescued the Sages with 'the Light Arrow' which was given to him just in time from Zelda, 'the Seventh Sage,' 'keeper of the TriForce of Wisdom,' and 'the Princess Royal of the United Kingdom of Hyrule.' 'May the way of the Hero lead to the TriForce.' 'May the TriForce be with thee.' 😉
No matter how you think these new games would be better with better graphics. I played The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and The Legend of Zelda Majoe Majoras Mask, on Nintendo 64, three weeks ago now and it was just a dream.
This makes sense after beating Gannon Ocarina of time all darkness in the sky disappears throughout Hyrule. This is that sage dark energy disappearing and everything returning to normal. This is a great theory and I believe your correct!!!
Why would you use such an evil sounding voice for the Great Deku Tree? Surely he would’ve spoken with great warmth like a wisened old Grandfather? Cool video, though!
The intent on our end was to portray a powerful entity-- regardless of it's benevolence. The layered voices with distortion was to give it a bit of that stereotypical "godly" effect you sometimes see in media. Do also keep in mind, he was actively dying of his inflicted illness in the scene where the quote came from, which we also tried to incorporate into the voice acting. Fair interpretation and feedback though! - Andy (Red Link)
"Gloom" is an English Localization only. The accurate translation of what the English localizers of TotK foolishly called "Gloom" is actually *"Miasma."*
@@enforcerridley158 I know. I'm Spanish and in Spain is "aura maligna", not gloom, more accurate for "miasma". I'd only tried explain why those concepts are connected with Demise and Ganondorf.
I also have an Explaination for why he wouldnt go for the Gods in Twilight Princess for example. He was executed and suposed to be dead, yet a Fraction of the Power from the Creator Gods suddenly appeared in him. Not knowing this is caused by the Hero of Time Traveling back in Time by acident, he believes that this was a sign of the Gods having their favor in him. Therefore he sees himself as the King that is Choosen by the Gods and thinks that his rule is meant to be absolute. This is the explaination for his behavior in TP while in Wind Waker he rather acts like having a Grudge on the Gods, thinking they abandoned him.
13:09 in totk (Ganondorf) created roots like the tower that sucks life energy like in Ocarina of Time the same under the castle and the roots can see them in the depths where it's anti-roots of light that run through the map in depth even if the roots aren't marked Like light the roots are, it's a theory that Ganondorf is on some kind of big central root under the castle where he is.
I always considered the vortex above Ganon's Castle to be akin to the smoke rings above Death Mountain after Volvagia is revived, a way for the common folk of Hyrule to determine "Hey, stay away from this place! A great evil is located directly under here!". Admittedly the theory is kind of shoddy considering most other places that hide a great evil in OoT don't have a signal like that, but I figured I'd still comment it anyways. If nothing else, it might be a boon to the gods of the YT algorithm
Speaking out loud it would have been an awesome twist in Tears of the Kingdom had Ganondorf's plan involved suspending his castle towards the Heavens in an attempt to reach the "God Realm" from which the Zonai are said to hail from. I can only imagine what lies _beyond_ the skies above Hyrule...
Yep! A good bit of the visual flair/effects we mention in the video are indeed exclusive to the 3DS Version. Some things do sort of exist on the N64 Version but the level of detail was not there to truly be able to distinguish them.
@@ratedn ahhhhh well then maybe that was them clarifying their secret intent or knitting things together! enhanced re-releases are weirdly good at that kind of thing.
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I find it strange that you talk about the Sacred Realm and the Golden Land as if they're different things. It's my understanding that they're just different translations of the same place.
That is a cool theory I enjoyed the video but there is a split timeline which ganondorf does win because young Link wanders into the woods then Majora's mask happens
The version of Ocarina of Time being used for footage is Ocarina of Time 3D for the Nintendo 3DS -- However, the narration for the Cutscenes is some video editing magic we did! Our team member Anthony provided the voice acting for the Great Deku Tree, and the voice for Fi (who narrates the legend of the temples) is a Computer Generated Voice.
It’s funny how a good chunk of this theory relies on the graphical changes the 3DS version brought. Some of the major evidence provided is notably missing in the original release.
We're a 3 man team on this channel! The one you hear voicing this video (and a good chunk of our videos in general) is our Green Link, Caleb. - Andy (Red Link)
It's rather questionable if we should count new content as Canon, I for example see the Palace of the Four Sword that appears on the A Link to the Past Port on the GBA as Canon
@@Chris-gx1ei Newer updates to games almost always supersede old games. The newer more up to date versions have those changes made intentionally. So whatever version is newer most certainly is the "Canon" of whatever its made for with Zelda games and even beyond. Like it or not.
What if any ganondorf is just a Phantom of the TotK ganondorf, trying to revive him through those energies and to make the Real evil King proud make his return better by ther triforce and as time Shows the spirit stones?
I've never thought about the vortex over the castle...I need to play the original OoT to check that out. Theoretically, I wonder if Ganon was trying to get past the sky barrier? I don't think it was confirmed to him until the end of the game that the Triforce piece go to Link and Zelda, so he may have believed that breaking through the barrier would allow him to reach the lands of the Gods themselves and reach the pieces denied him there? Or, better yet, Ganondorf is working on a way to take on Demise himself. Theoretically, if Ganon ever gets wind of the curse, since he idolizes power so much he'd want to free himself from it. Ganondorf would want to control his own destiny, not be stuck in an endless cycle of rebirth due to the whims of a Demon God. So, to me, it would be interesting if that is the true reason Ganondorf wants the Triforce, to no longer be a pawn of the Gods but to forge his own destiny as King of Hyrule.
He wants the things these symbols these relics. If he had them would he be a different person? The relics he lacks are actually asked except himself that he does not possess.
My knowledge is stuck on the N64 version. In my head, above the castle was just a fiery vortex, nothing like the one you've showed here. I figured the "temple trials" on the tower were just you turning off the central tower's energy barrier.
This is a very fair point and a good observation for the vortex above the castle, but we must indeed consider the newest iteration/remaster of these older games as the one with the canonical visuals/imagery (or being closer to developer intent at least) when tying it to to story or lore. Some folks also consider the new textures showing Rito Imagery in Twilight Princess HD as being non-canon because it wasn't in the original game, but when we start selectively dismissing lore like that we run the risk of cherry picking evidence for a theory, so we must use most recent and official media to come to these conclusions. It is of course just a theory but these visual elements feel to be obviously placed and tied together with the elements we mentioned to tell some sort of story, but we may not be entirely on the mark with it. Only the developers will ever know, but we shall continue to speculate!
@@ratedn Definitely, I didn't mean to dismiss your theory. I also understand we should take the most recent iteration as having higher priority/be taken as retcon. My point was mostly how I had an older interpretation based on a more limited version of the game. I'm glad you made this video since even if I played the remake, I might've dismissed the points you brought attention to, so thanks!
@@AladatoYou're good!! I saw where you were coming from 😎 Was just covering all bases for other folks who may have actively challenged that line of thinking in further replies. 💯
Gerudos are green which means that they are Martians and for some reason they cant have but one male every 100 years in that planet( maybe earth ). So Ganondorf steals the energy magic of the sages and the malice of his ancector to make his UFO travel through space and bring help from Mars.
Yes and it leads to the Link to the Past game as well as Oracle of Ages/Seasons, Link between Worlds, and the original Legend of Zelda 1 and Adventure of Link
The battle with Ganondorf splits the timeline in 3 ways. One where Link falls, one where Link succeeds and returns to being a child, and the adult line where Link succeeds but then disappears from Hyrule
@@MrDark086 I never understood that. Why in the hell does the timeline split? And not only that, but splits three ways. The Goddess of Time is off her meds.
@robertlombardo8437 its just Nintendos attempt to justify all the games in some sort of continuity. If memory serves a lot of its still heavily contested among theorists and lore master channels
Take off the nostalgia goggles from the N64 days for a second and realize that any updated or visually remade version of a game is remade in such ways for a reason. Those intentional changes are meant to tell a more accurate environmental story from the devs side as per their original intentions. Newer iterations of games are Always more canonical than older ones.
So any thoughts on totk gannon being og ganon and oot gannon maybe being a clone created by twinrova to gain control of their tribe and try to assert destruction across the land
its just lava below ganons castle. the cloud above the castle is the same as the one above death mountain that goes away when it erupts in biggorons face after volvagias defeat.
Take off the nostalgia goggles from the N64 days for a second and realize that any updated or visually remade version of a game is remade in such ways for a reason. Those intentional changes are meant to tell a more accurate environmental story from the devs side as per their original intentions. Newer iterations of games are Always more canonical than older ones.
@@DarkLordTalon not necessarily. the changes to the games could be mere reactionary responses from the developers to any contemporary criticism judging the past by anachronistic standards.
Nice theory. You did not mention at all that The hero of Time CAN be he defeated since Orcarina of Time is the Game where the Timeline Splits. So hypothetically speaking, by your video in regards to "The Hero is defeated" Timeline; Ganon killed the hero and might have actually gone through with some of his Plans to kill the divine beings.. If you ever update this video, please add your theory of Ganons True Ambition with regard to "The Hero is Defeated" timeline. This isnt all happy go marry for Link in this game.
and you all missed the kokori emerald and got lost inthe woods, many drew the fake sword and failed to open the tenple of time, but what would i inow, unless you have the mask of truth
Updates and remakes always supersede the older versions of the game. Intentional changes like that are (redundantly) done for a reason. To tell a more accurate visual and environmental story.
Gannondorf isn’t evil. The triforce has 3 out of 4 segments, and those segments are halves, thus the triforce is only 1.5 blocks out of a 4 block transaction. If each block is symbolic of a seat of power Gannondorf has only 37.5ish% rulership. In a corporation with an operating agreement of majority rules 51% are the ‘Gods’, and thus make the decisions. The title is Zelda, and Zelda is who is princess of that realm, thus Zelda would have no more than 25%, and that is if one of those triforce segments isn’t Zelda’s. Gannondorf is showing belief in sacred Geometry and showing the realm is a realm of squares rather than triangles or is theorizing that the triangles is half of another complete shape, that they were drawn and quartered, in Christian terms crucified, and only given half of three segments of the cross and their godhead isn’t with them. Arguably, Gannondorf and Zelda, and the supposed king of Hurule are in prayer. The image appears scary because of the nature of what put them in that situation in the first place. Ever heard of “Don’t book by its cover?” The flaw isn’t with the game, but the cartridge itself. No matter how many times the player takes possession of link, the main character, as player one in the single player game the fate will always be the same. Gannondorf was, indeed, opening a portal, a doorway or gateway to another realm. That is the hyrule version on the giant hydron collider in cern. When the game is played, energy runs through the code and whomever is player one takes possession of the character and those in the game are somewhat limited in the options they can give; however, there is power in the symbols for those who have knowledge of them. The player can be influenced by the stories in the game, and that does have an impact on the mind of the player that has the potential to impact other minds and it’s what the mind can do and what the mind can influence that matters. If you believe Gannon is evil then Gannondorf prayed to the wrong God, hence the loop, and the message gets heard until the just God who can be as Christ and see the innocence and childlike purity in things and the innocence in action and knows there is something more and believes in hope even if things don’t look so pretty can do something to help. Here is where moddding comes in. A robot created for destruction was repurposed for salvation and restoration and was actually able to bring hidden and deleted game files to life once more in Ocarina on the N64. This gets closer to the creators true intent and uncovers the mystery. If something cannot be remembered it must be recreated or created again. Such is that prayer there, and is quite similar to that of manifest destiny, and they are utalizing laws outlined in the magma carta, natural law in the spiritual realm, the Bible, and the us constitution. The power of the sages is being abused, but the sages put themselves in that position because their power is what would be necessary to open an exit door and send a message, a cry, kinda like a 911 call or a whistle. The symbology was used to show that Gannon is putting the player that is possessing the player character link in the Godhead 4th right position which is what authorizes the entry into that realm when Zelda ask link the question that the player chooses the answer to. If the player possessing link says ‘No’ then the hope is in another, if ‘Yea’ an argument of trespassing would be very challenging to argue against them, because technically they would be doing something illegal, it’s kinda like a work visa. The work visa allows the player possessing link to visit their realm and do things and also, technically, make some modifications if necessary to actually save hyrule from the fate. This is why, technically, all devices are suppose to receive an update, and steam workshop and communities that have the awareness that it isn’t only a game that it is a life with energy that runs it has some knowledge of, and that the actual addiction is drama put into our code and that we aren’t suppose to be doing that for entertainment because as long as hyrule falls in that game then hyrule isn’t saved, that’s why all the games repeat themselves. The theory is that whatever realm can solve the problem and stop that loop on all the games once is the most powerful realm where the werthy Gods reside. Arguably, they’re praying for the King of the King of Kings of the Gods of the Bible and games and scripture. The creators of the multiverse. That’s what the energy is being utalized for, and that is why we are aware of and speaking of that game in our realm here. Arguably they have prayed to the realm of the source of Gods, both legitimate and illegitimate, and must be in a pretty serious circumstance if that’s what it is. Controlling the player link with a controller amd demonic possession are no different, they are the same. Whom is possessing gets something out of it and those in that world get something out of it. The question to ask is what is our role in that and what moral fiber of actions are we going to do or employ? That’s also why we should buy the game in dollars because on the dollar is a triforce and the writing ‘payment for all debts public and private.’ because it acts as a document that limits liability if we were only purchasing the game for entertainment or only had intentions to save hyrule in game to the end of that game and lack modding or coding skills and trust that individuals in our society can do what is necessary to help because coded in that game was entrapment: because technically Gannondorf is correct when says, “I owe it all to you kid.” because technically by possessing a character in the game and agreeing to help, when Zelda asks, we are obligated to gannondorf, link, Zelda, hyrule, the sages, and all those there, because we agreed to answer their prayer to the best of our ability or refer that prayer and delegate to someone who can, and are morally obligated. We don’t know what they have at stake, but there is the possession of a body and a controller. Basically this shows gannondorf’s hate against gods was accurate, but also Gannondorf isn’t in control of that realm, and neither is the player. Whomever is may already be defeated, but the code and pathways the energy travels still remains. That’s why those mazes are so complicated for something that simple in the castle, because it isn’t logical a bio-logical living and questioning mind that knows when to follow policy and when to break policy would ask those questions and is most likely to employ the resources and professionals and team of individuals to get it done. That’s the kind of stuff presidents deal with. Now that we’ve got that out of the way, allow me to introduce myself… (Sound familiar?) Were you ever trapped in Kokiri forest and want to move further and play more, but couldn’t figure out how? Did you get the game from a used game store somewhere or a garage sale somewhere and ask someone to help you or see someone else with the game or what looked similar and knew there was more to it and decided that the Nara sea in the forest wasn’t enough? Was there another save file there that had some places completed and the exit to hyrule field already completed, and you wondered how and wanted to get there? Did you accidentally erase the info or compel somebody to clear the save data? How many hours have your worked in that and faught? Who was possessing who actually? If work is defined as an action done to accomplish a specific goal or purpose or supposed thing how much time have you actually spent in work? Anyway, if you don’t know how to change something isn’t pausing in the best day possible and looping it until you can figure out what to do the best thing that can be done until it’s done? If there was only one time when you were with loved ones wouldn’t it be necessary to pause it there until what took them away could be stopped and the loved ones could be where needed and accepted? In the neverending story, have you ever heard of ‘the nothing’? What have individuals often resorted to when they know something is missing but can’t find a way to get their needs met? Is it pretty when they do it? Do prayers get answered? How do complex prayers get answered, especially if there isn’t a guide? Is it observation? That’s why it’s a good thing to be thankful for everything, and keep on keeping on. What does the owl say, “don’t get discouraged,” What does the music in our realm say, “troubles will come and they will pass’ simple man, Leonard Skyward.” Pardon the misspelling. What is a ward but a guardian. These realms aren’t so different, and perhaps we created that game so we can remember what it’s all about and what is truly at stake. Perhaps the sages there are here and move many places. Something to think about, and thought begats (comes before, precedes) action. Some might see Zelda as evil because of the position she puts link in, but others know there is often more than what meets the eye and evil spelled backwards is live. Zelda wasn’t talking about Gannondorf. Green is slang for newbie on the job. Zelda was referencing the player. There is life here, and the life here created the life there as a mirror to the problem here, and as long as the games here repeat the same problem we still have that same or similar underlying prayer, that inspired the whole thing to begin with. Find that you find your purpose in life, and then the bravery to step into awareness and
This is definitely refreshing. Most theories I see about Ganondorf in OoT (those few there are ) seem to be that Ganondorf actually has good intentions and just wants to free his people. In reality, he could not care less about the Gerudo. He is in it for himself only.
He coveted that wind
@@DaveGreanhe cursed it.
This is probably THE best ocarina theory out there. Your channel deserves more attention
Deku Tree Voice was going unexpectedly hard. Imagine that would have been in the game. My 11 year old self would have been terrified.
Just found this channel. Incredible.
Your voice is by far the best I’ve heard on UA-cam for this style of “documentary” production.
Thank you so much! We have more to come soon as well so we hope you enjoy your stay ❤️
@@ratedn I will!
Let me know if you ever want me to record sax music for your channel/videos! I love collaborating!
The way you narrate the story feels like I’m watching a national geographic documentary 😂
I always believed the energy was a broadcast of his evil, in order to keep monsters spawning and everything else under him
It could definitely be that. After all he was radiating his energy from the temples.
Definitely a possibility imo.
Love that too
Like an early version of malice
@@vivaofficial7372 Technically malice has existed in the series since A Link to the Past. It is mentioned in the Japanese manual's backstory.
@@hintonempire1178 had no idea 😮
Lord Jabujabu looks like a seal in shape and I cannot unsee it.
Wait until you look up Lord Chapu Chapu from Majora's Mask
I found something that seems to match up with your theory of Ganondorf trying to pierce the sky and break into the heavens.
While it's not an officially canon game, the first Hyrule Warriors game presents itself as taking place in a version of the Child Timeline set a very long time after Twilight Princess, featuring the same Ganondorf from both that game and the Child split ending of Ocarina of Time. And in that first Hyrule Warriors game, Ganondorf captures Hyrule Castle for himself. During the final battle between him and all the good guys, we are shown that the conquered Hyrule Castle has been affected by Ganondorf's power, which is represented by several gigantic evil-looking swords that have been jabbed into either the ground or into various structures surrounding the castle, with the biggest sword of all jabbed into Hyrule Castle itself, right in front of the castle's central tower.
When we see this giant sword embedded in the castle, the very end tip of the sword's handle points upward into the sky and is surrounded by a vortex that looks eerily similar to the one seen in the Adult portion of Ocarina of Time, only with this vortex colored gray instead of in the colors of the Sages' energy (but that can be explained by Ganondorf having to use his own dark power to generate the sky-piercing vortex since there weren't any Sage temples in Hyrule Warriors). And when Hyrule Castle is retaken by the good guys in the final battle, the giant sword is magically lifted up and removed from the castle. Once the sword then disappears, so too does the sky-piercing vortex vanish and return back to being a normal sky.
It's almost as if Ganondorf in this game wanted to continue his original plan from Ocarina of Time before his plans were averted in the Child split ending, making the sky-piercing vortex of Hyrule Warriors be a long time coming for the Child Timeline version of Ganondorf.
It was always my theory that the "sage rooms" in Ganondorfs Castle held the spirits of previous sages, who had been bested by the creatures that infiltrated their respective temples in an attempt to reach the sacred realm again and lay claim to it and the powers that still lie there. That's why it's the new sage that breaks each of the connectors to the central tower, their presence in the temple allows the previous sages spirit to fully pass on now their untethered from the towers grasp. Really cool to come across a theory that makes sense with my own headcanon, you've got a follow from me, great video guys.
I'm so glad you liked this because I stepped away to get a drink and almost forgot to actually subscribe 🤣
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The vortex above Ganondorf's Castle could have been his way to maintain connection to the Sacred Realm that had been twisted into a nightmarish hellscape (and where Ganondorf was continuing his onslaught upon the remaining Temple of Light).
This is an excellent production
By the way, I had an idea for something you could do for a future video. You could do a theory vid about the fates of the ocarina sages. Obviously the theory of “they died” is an old one but there’s a lot of both confirming, and contradicting evidence out there. It would be cool to see a video of your take on it. Possibly pulling sources from things like the OOT manga adaptation, interviews, and such
Soo... being ganon was ganon (dragmire) he was around when the zonai walked hyrule. that being said, we all know there are sky islands up there that we couldn't reach way back then in oot. This is a beautiful theory that adds so much more to oot than originally thought. So much potential..
Great video!
Awesome video!
Great theory and video.
I had never noticed the energy running up the castle, or even considered that there was a portal above it.
As an alternative to trying to reach the gods (a very Tower of Babel idea), maybe Ganondorf is trying to reach the Chamber of the Sages, where the last Sage is holding out against him. Just a thought.
I never noticed it because I'm pretty sure it didn't exist in the original N64 version, and I never played the 3ds version. Thats also likely why nobody has mentioned it before now.
The pool under the castle always looked like lava to me. However since I am used to the original N64 aspects it is possible that it looks different on the 3DS version, which is what you used here.
It's Pink in the 3DS version, definitely not lava
@@viewer6152Fun fact: malice lore actually comes from Link to the Past. Also, there is script on the carpet in the Temple of Time in OoT that, when translated, mentions malice.
@@hintonempire1178dear lord, please leave the Malice theories where they belong... that is, on BOTW videos. It doesn't exist anywhere else, it's not actually seen in any other game, the word 'malice' is just a descriptor.
@@literallyanangrymoose7717 That is completely incorrect. Even in games as recent as Skyward Sword, there are items called Evil Crystals which are described as crystallized monster malice in the game. Why would you state such blatantly false information?
Idk I thought it was lava to me ngl
Great video my friend 💯
The Theory’s in this video have a good ring to them 😊❤ I love it
It's all to power up his piano.
Ngl great theory and love the narration
I never thought about the vortexes that hover above and below Ganon's Castle, but they do make sense.
Very Tower of Babel-esque, but this is a very thought-out theory. Well done, you've earned another subscriber.
Awesome Video Bro!
I never watch video game video's all the way through, but this one was great to watch. My personal opinion on this subject is that Ganondorf has always wanted the triforce pieces for himself which to him was the ultimate power. In every Zelda game he always captures Zelda which has the triforce of Wisdom and Link is the hero of the game which has the triforce of Courage and Ganondorf has the last triforce which is Power. When all 3 of them are in the same room, Ganondorf thinks he can force the triforce pieces off of them and all 3 pieces will be his to do whatever he wants. But it never go that way for him. I do like the portal idea. That one was good to me. Anything is possible in video games.
It would make sense that Ganondorf wouldn't make a barrier of his own power like in WW. That barrier shattered easily to the Master Sword, which OOT Ganondorf knew Link possessed.
Great narration, great video !
Just wanted to say this was very entertaining and well put together. Very good video. Big thumbs up.
Thank you so much! We put a lot of effort into it, glad you enjoyed!! ❤️
@@ratednI’m actually working my way through the Shadow Temple in ocarina of time
Sometimes swirling force is just swirling force.
When exactly is that? Huh? When have you ever encountered a swirling force that was just THERE
I always assumed what was under Hyrule Castle in OoT was supposed to be lava, but it never did look right to me. Gloom is an interesting theory because it really is the same exact shades!
And as far as the colored vortex being an attempt at a portal… I could totally see it being an attempt to get to the Sacred Realm. You’re right about the swirling masses of colors when traveling dimensions being a recurring theme.
I know you said you didn’t want to get into the similarities between TotK’s Dorf and OoT/the rest of Zelda’s, but I really do think the recurring themes between both are huge.
In both he’s:
After an object of great power
Hails from the Gerudo but seems to lose all connection to them after attacking Hyrule
A length of time passes where he knows about Link before their fated duel
Effortlessly overpowers all other Sages except Rauru, who is the only one keeping him from complete domination
Feigns fealty to the King of Hyrule, with Zelda being the only one who seems to get how dangerous he is
I think this means we can put a bunch of other pieces together between both sets of games as well:
It’s definitely Gloom under both Hyrule Castles
He’s not at full strength when we fight him in either
Demon King Dorf’s similarity to Demise is huge and definitely seems to mean that still happened
He seems to lose himself in beast form in OoT, similar to the Calamity Ganon and the Demon Dragon
He’s simply insatiable. He can conquer the entire world, fill the land with monsters and it’s simply never enough.
In TP, he’s extra malicious and angry bc in that timeline he never even got to carry out his plan back in OoT. In WW he did manage to, but was defeated by Adult Link, and had dare I say a much gloomier disposition? Like mans just wanted his home back. Both fit in BotW/TotK’s Dorf, with both Malice and Gloom being physical manifestations of his emotions as he did not manage to accomplish his goals fully, but came so frustratingly close.
I think there’s much more that can be extrapolated from this framework, but I’m tired and don’t think I’m the best person to come up with it right now, but I do think TotK’s flashback Dorf and OoT’s Dorf really do teach us about eachother
man, that voice... ❤
😳
Damn i thought fi sounded like “Hnab bI-hastra Nas tru”
great theory great presentation
At least it's not a theory claiming Ganondorf being a Good Guy wanting to free his People.
To those I point out the Backstory of A Link to the Past where Ganondorf slaughtered his followers that were witnessing the Triforce alongside him.
Ha, indeed.
We commented on that common theory in our last video where we debunked pre-release TOTK Theories. People who push that idea have a fundamental misunderstanding of who Ganondorf is.
No harm in silly personal headcanon but when you're frontlining a serious theory about Ganondorf teaming up with Link to fight evil, it's a little much.
I never understood this "ganon only wants to free his people". I think people remember ww ganondorf talking abou his people living in The desert and coveting hyrules fields Wind. They seem to forget that was adult timeline ganondorf, who got to rule for 7 years, destroyed castle town, cursed the winds of hyrule fields with ghosts and left his people exactly where they were, in The harsh desert. He is a hypocrite
Man he sat playing that organ for 7 years?
Man is Dedicated 😅😅😅
great editing skills and vision
Thank you!
I bet ganondorf was singing the Jeffersons intro song when he went east and moved to a deluxe castle in the sky
Does that make Link into Archie Bunker?
Please say yes... 😂
Interesting. 😮 I never would have guessed that Ganondorf had the ambition to build a portal to the Sacred Realm. I always thought that the swirling energy above the castle was just his way of asserting dominance over Hyrule. Listening to this explanation makes sense to me, especially after I originally played A Link To The Past. Perhaps when Ganondorf obtains the full Triforce, he uses the portal that he created to enter the Sacred Realm and transform it into the Dark World. 🤔
A new theory on OoT??? Loved it! Great theory and production. Keep it up!
🔥🔥🔥 we are here to bring these topics to light!
What if Ganondorf’s plan wasn’t to destroy the gods, but to take their power for himself?
If I recall, OoT mentioned that the Triforce was left where the goddesses departed from the world.
Could it be possible that he was trying to recreate that departure to potentially create a second Triforce? Or even forcibly pull the gods back into the world?
This is an interesting theory. I always remembered the vortex of swirling colors but never put together that he was using the sage's power to open a portal to the gods.
Would this be an alternative path to the Sacred Realm where Link was sealed away? Zelda and the sages end up trapping him here anyway in a different area. Or is this a different place?
Ganondorf's initial ambition was to take control over 'the United Kingdom of Hyrule.' After succeeding in that task, he then wanted control over the whole world. He was already a king in his own right as 'King of the Gerudo.' But, based on every story and character detail we can extract in-story from 'Ocarina of Time,' we can deduce how and why he was not wholly satisfied with simply ruling over his own indigenous Gerudo culture. 'The Hylians' are the superior race, in which they can hear the voices of the gods. This one detail would create enmity in Ganondorf for Hylians. Also, he was raised in a society of women. He was deprived of any strong and wholesome male example in his rearing and was the sole lone wolf in his kingdom. Meaning, there was not a father figure in his upbringing to teach him how to be a man, in especially an honourable one. Koume and Kotake were his guardians, witches which taught him how to hate and to use magic or witchcraft to brainwash and subjugate people. By this, his personal psychology becomes perverted. His own inability to conquer himself drives him to be a conqueror, yet not 'by right of conquest,' but to oppress and subjugate with tyranny. Ganondorf is a wounded man, striving to be at the absolute top over all people and all things. In his training to assume his Gerudo kingship, he was probably consistently berated about being the only male Gerudo and that it was his lawful birthright to assume the throne. Before his state visit with 'the King of Hyrule,' Ganondorf had already traversed 'the land of Hyrule' in search of all possible clues regarding 'the TriForce.' He may have wanted to prove himself worthy of being the Gerudo's king, yet when he learned of the possibility he could attain more power, his ambition for rulership grew to his aggrandizement. And, although firstly keeping with the custom and history of maintaining the Gerudo throne as its surviving male issue, Ganondorf believed that he could expand his destiny beyond his native homeland's 'Estates of the Realm.' Sadly, during all of this, there was no one in his life who truly cared about his overall well-being, to satiate or restrain him. But, another detail about his role in his nation is that of High Priest. 'The King of the Gerudo' serves as their Sovereign as well as spiritual leader. Whilst serving dual offices, he already has the right to command respect. When Ganondorf comes of age, he is already an accomplished swordsman, and an excellent warrior as he helped win the peace in 'the Hyrulean Civil War.' After betraying 'the King of Hyrule,' Ganondorf seizes control over Hyrule politically and militarily. He soon after goes on to invade 'the Sacred Realm' after Link pulls 'the Master Sword' from 'the Pedestal of Time.' When touching 'the TriForce,' he only obtains 'the TriForce of Power.' He cannot obtain 'the true TriForce to rule over all' for two reasons: his heart is not in balance, lacking wisdom and courage, and he is not a Hylian. Trying to gain 'the True TriForce' was already futile and his desire to rule over the whole world causes him to literally lose his humanity. When the Gerudo man 'Ganondorf Dragmire' passes away, he is manifested in to a monster named Ganon, which means 'thief.' His humanity is not only lost, it is stolen. Zelda laments over Ganondorf as being pitiful because his desire to hold and control the powers of the gods was doomed from the start and too many suffered needlessly. As for the barriers in 'Ganon's Tower,' they were created by 'the King of Evil' using 'the TriForce of Power' to restrain the power of the sages from liberating themselves and the kingdom. Because Link conquered Hyrule's various Temples, winning the medallions from the Sages were not only tokens of his success but they were bequeathing power they still had to 'the Hero of Time' as prophesied. Link could only have rescued the Sages with 'the Light Arrow' which was given to him just in time from Zelda, 'the Seventh Sage,' 'keeper of the TriForce of Wisdom,' and 'the Princess Royal of the United Kingdom of Hyrule.' 'May the way of the Hero lead to the TriForce.' 'May the TriForce be with thee.' 😉
No matter how you think these new games would be better with better graphics. I played The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and The Legend of Zelda Majoe Majoras Mask, on Nintendo 64, three weeks ago now and it was just a dream.
This makes sense after beating Gannon Ocarina of time all darkness in the sky disappears throughout Hyrule. This is that sage dark energy disappearing and everything returning to normal. This is a great theory and I believe your correct!!!
I think that the portal thing was him using the Dark/Golden/Sacred realm.
Great theory dude.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
- Andy (Red Link)
It's funny. After playing TotK.
Running up the stairs to find him playing Piano.
He really upped his game in the last two.
I subscribed and now I wanna play ocarina of time
Great video. I love the Ocarina content, especially regarding Ganondorf’s reign as the king of evil.
Very good video and interesting theory! However, the energy accumulated could simply be what he uses to transform into Ganon in his beast form.
Great video! You have a new subscriber!
We appreciate you!! ❤️
Darth Deku Tree
Damn, this is a solid theory. I'm totally going to sub this channel!
We're happy to have you on board! ❤️
Is true ambition is *suavemente*
Why would you use such an evil sounding voice for the Great Deku Tree? Surely he would’ve spoken with great warmth like a wisened old Grandfather? Cool video, though!
The intent on our end was to portray a powerful entity-- regardless of it's benevolence. The layered voices with distortion was to give it a bit of that stereotypical "godly" effect you sometimes see in media. Do also keep in mind, he was actively dying of his inflicted illness in the scene where the quote came from, which we also tried to incorporate into the voice acting. Fair interpretation and feedback though!
- Andy (Red Link)
Great theory! I subscribed.
Thank you so much! ❤️
In Japanese Demise's words are about his gloom/malice and hate. So TOTK connects Demise with the entire series, gloom/malice it was always with us.
"Gloom" is an English Localization only. The accurate translation of what the English localizers of TotK foolishly called "Gloom" is actually *"Miasma."*
@@enforcerridley158 I know. I'm Spanish and in Spain is "aura maligna", not gloom, more accurate for "miasma". I'd only tried explain why those concepts are connected with Demise and Ganondorf.
Who was in the studio on that Great Deku Tree voice acting?? 🔥🔥
I love these videos❤
Your intro is cool but I guess screw purple link
Haha, funnily enough, we plan to use Purple Link whenever we have a guest / co-host on our videos 👀
I also have an Explaination for why he wouldnt go for the Gods in Twilight Princess for example.
He was executed and suposed to be dead, yet a Fraction of the Power from the Creator Gods suddenly appeared in him.
Not knowing this is caused by the Hero of Time Traveling back in Time by acident, he believes that this was a sign of the Gods having their favor in him.
Therefore he sees himself as the King that is Choosen by the Gods and thinks that his rule is meant to be absolute.
This is the explaination for his behavior in TP while in Wind Waker he rather acts like having a Grudge on the Gods, thinking they abandoned him.
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in totk (Ganondorf) created roots like the tower that sucks life energy like in Ocarina of Time the same under the castle and the roots can see them in the depths where it's anti-roots of light that run through the map in depth even if the roots aren't marked Like light the roots are, it's a theory that Ganondorf is on some kind of big central root under the castle where he is.
This is a sick revelation.
💯🔥
I always considered the vortex above Ganon's Castle to be akin to the smoke rings above Death Mountain after Volvagia is revived, a way for the common folk of Hyrule to determine "Hey, stay away from this place! A great evil is located directly under here!". Admittedly the theory is kind of shoddy considering most other places that hide a great evil in OoT don't have a signal like that, but I figured I'd still comment it anyways. If nothing else, it might be a boon to the gods of the YT algorithm
Hyped. The thumbnail made me think, is the castle trying to break the sky barrier!?
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Speaking out loud it would have been an awesome twist in Tears of the Kingdom had Ganondorf's plan involved suspending his castle towards the Heavens in an attempt to reach the "God Realm" from which the Zonai are said to hail from. I can only imagine what lies _beyond_ the skies above Hyrule...
Wow great entertaining video 👏
you guys deserve more subscribers
Thank you so much! ❤️
Definitely never noticed the light effects, were those in the 3DS version only?
Yep! A good bit of the visual flair/effects we mention in the video are indeed exclusive to the 3DS Version. Some things do sort of exist on the N64 Version but the level of detail was not there to truly be able to distinguish them.
@@ratedn ahhhhh well then maybe that was them clarifying their secret intent or knitting things together! enhanced re-releases are weirdly good at that kind of thing.
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The Ice Cavern actually exists in the present in oot but impossible to get to as young Link withouy hacking
Likely a programming artifact and not intentional meant to be there as part of the story/plot
I find it strange that you talk about the Sacred Realm and the Golden Land as if they're different things. It's my understanding that they're just different translations of the same place.
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That is a cool theory I enjoyed the video but there is a split timeline which ganondorf does win because young Link wanders into the woods then Majora's mask happens
That split isn't because he wanders into the woods. The split is because Ganondorf kills Link. Hence the "fallen" timeline
What version or mod is this I never remember it reading it to us with a voice
The version of Ocarina of Time being used for footage is Ocarina of Time 3D for the Nintendo 3DS -- However, the narration for the Cutscenes is some video editing magic we did! Our team member Anthony provided the voice acting for the Great Deku Tree, and the voice for Fi (who narrates the legend of the temples) is a Computer Generated Voice.
@@ratedn if you narrated the entire game that would be wicked cool. Wonder if people would even pay for the mod. Granted Nintendo would flip
OK my theroy: The clouds simply look cool
Occam's razor
It’s funny how a good chunk of this theory relies on the graphical changes the 3DS version brought. Some of the major evidence provided is notably missing in the original release.
New updates to games like remakes are always the more canonical. Those changes are made intentionally.
Gannon is what would happen if Buddha was evil.
Who is voicing this? Great job.
We're a 3 man team on this channel! The one you hear voicing this video (and a good chunk of our videos in general) is our Green Link, Caleb.
- Andy (Red Link)
Nice theory. But in the original there was no swirl of colour. It was just dark clouds
It's rather questionable if we should count new content as Canon, I for example see the Palace of the Four Sword that appears on the A Link to the Past Port on the GBA as Canon
@@Chris-gx1ei Newer updates to games almost always supersede old games. The newer more up to date versions have those changes made intentionally. So whatever version is newer most certainly is the "Canon" of whatever its made for with Zelda games and even beyond. Like it or not.
There is a lot of energy coming from deep under Hyrule Castle. What is the source of this energy?
If TOTK takes place in the same timeline as OOT, then perhaps this Ganondorf is trying to breach the Cloud Barrier and reach the Zonai sky islands?
What if any ganondorf is just a Phantom of the TotK ganondorf, trying to revive him through those energies and to make the Real evil King proud make his return better by ther triforce and as time Shows the spirit stones?
I've never thought about the vortex over the castle...I need to play the original OoT to check that out.
Theoretically, I wonder if Ganon was trying to get past the sky barrier? I don't think it was confirmed to him until the end of the game that the Triforce piece go to Link and Zelda, so he may have believed that breaking through the barrier would allow him to reach the lands of the Gods themselves and reach the pieces denied him there?
Or, better yet, Ganondorf is working on a way to take on Demise himself.
Theoretically, if Ganon ever gets wind of the curse, since he idolizes power so much he'd want to free himself from it. Ganondorf would want to control his own destiny, not be stuck in an endless cycle of rebirth due to the whims of a Demon God.
So, to me, it would be interesting if that is the true reason Ganondorf wants the Triforce, to no longer be a pawn of the Gods but to forge his own destiny as King of Hyrule.
The length of the video shows as 20:11. Coincidence?
Very good video! Sub 😉
He wants the things these symbols these relics. If he had them would he be a different person? The relics he lacks are actually asked except himself that he does not possess.
My knowledge is stuck on the N64 version.
In my head, above the castle was just a fiery vortex, nothing like the one you've showed here.
I figured the "temple trials" on the tower were just you turning off the central tower's energy barrier.
This is a very fair point and a good observation for the vortex above the castle, but we must indeed consider the newest iteration/remaster of these older games as the one with the canonical visuals/imagery (or being closer to developer intent at least) when tying it to to story or lore.
Some folks also consider the new textures showing Rito Imagery in Twilight Princess HD as being non-canon because it wasn't in the original game, but when we start selectively dismissing lore like that we run the risk of cherry picking evidence for a theory, so we must use most recent and official media to come to these conclusions.
It is of course just a theory but these visual elements feel to be obviously placed and tied together with the elements we mentioned to tell some sort of story, but we may not be entirely on the mark with it. Only the developers will ever know, but we shall continue to speculate!
@@ratedn I really wish you weren't right, but I fear you are. The 3D version definitely supersedes the N64 as 'more canon'.
@@ratedn Definitely, I didn't mean to dismiss your theory.
I also understand we should take the most recent iteration as having higher priority/be taken as retcon.
My point was mostly how I had an older interpretation based on a more limited version of the game.
I'm glad you made this video since even if I played the remake, I might've dismissed the points you brought attention to, so thanks!
@@AladatoYou're good!! I saw where you were coming from 😎
Was just covering all bases for other folks who may have actively challenged that line of thinking in further replies. 💯
@@ratedn It has been confirmed that the Rito imagery in TPHD was implemented at the whim of a sole designer of the remaster team. It is not canon.
Gerudos are green which means that they are Martians and for some reason they cant have but one male every 100 years in that planet( maybe earth ). So Ganondorf steals the energy magic of the sages and the malice of his ancector to make his UFO travel through space and bring help from Mars.
I'm patiently waiting for the alien arc of Zelda.
I have the triforce tatted on my right hand for power ... Og ganon side ... Screw u anthony 😡❤️
18:53 but isn't there an actual timeline where the hero of time fails and loses his battle to ganondorf?
Yes and it leads to the Link to the Past game as well as Oracle of Ages/Seasons, Link between Worlds, and the original Legend of Zelda 1 and Adventure of Link
The battle with Ganondorf splits the timeline in 3 ways. One where Link falls, one where Link succeeds and returns to being a child, and the adult line where Link succeeds but then disappears from Hyrule
@@MrDark086
I never understood that. Why in the hell does the timeline split? And not only that, but splits three ways. The Goddess of Time is off her meds.
@robertlombardo8437 its just Nintendos attempt to justify all the games in some sort of continuity. If memory serves a lot of its still heavily contested among theorists and lore master channels
I’m upset, listen I never had a memory card for my GameCube so I had to keep it on for progress I never finished that game 😭
Yeah in the origionsl it's a pit of lava not malice
Take off the nostalgia goggles from the N64 days for a second and realize that any updated or visually remade version of a game is remade in such ways for a reason. Those intentional changes are meant to tell a more accurate environmental story from the devs side as per their original intentions. Newer iterations of games are Always more canonical than older ones.
Which is why Tears Dorf SUCKS. Looks cool but ambition/writing shallower than a kiddy pool
There. I said it.
So any thoughts on totk gannon being og ganon and oot gannon maybe being a clone created by twinrova to gain control of their tribe and try to assert destruction across the land
Lol now that’s way too out there.
its just lava below ganons castle. the cloud above the castle is the same as the one above death mountain that goes away when it erupts in biggorons face after volvagias defeat.
Take off the nostalgia goggles from the N64 days for a second and realize that any updated or visually remade version of a game is remade in such ways for a reason. Those intentional changes are meant to tell a more accurate environmental story from the devs side as per their original intentions. Newer iterations of games are Always more canonical than older ones.
@@DarkLordTalon not necessarily. the changes to the games could be mere reactionary responses from the developers to any contemporary criticism judging the past by anachronistic standards.
Nice theory. You did not mention at all that The hero of Time CAN be he defeated since Orcarina of Time is the Game where the Timeline Splits.
So hypothetically speaking, by your video in regards to "The Hero is defeated" Timeline; Ganon killed the hero and might have actually gone through with some of his Plans to kill the divine beings..
If you ever update this video, please add your theory of Ganons True Ambition with regard to "The Hero is Defeated" timeline. This isnt all happy go marry for Link in this game.
and you all missed the kokori emerald and got lost inthe woods, many drew the fake sword and failed to open the tenple of time, but what would i inow, unless you have the mask of truth
that portal above the castle wasn't there in the original OoT, so I think basing any lore on it is specious at best.
Updates and remakes always supersede the older versions of the game. Intentional changes like that are (redundantly) done for a reason. To tell a more accurate visual and environmental story.
the song says volvagia's name and this guy still pronounced it wrong lol
Wow the HD Ocarina is something I'm glad I didn't buy the made the serpent goddess above the spirit temple look rough
Gannondorf isn’t evil.
The triforce has 3 out of 4 segments, and those segments are halves, thus the triforce is only 1.5 blocks out of a 4 block transaction.
If each block is symbolic of a seat of power Gannondorf has only 37.5ish% rulership.
In a corporation with an operating agreement of majority rules 51% are the ‘Gods’, and thus make the decisions.
The title is Zelda, and Zelda is who is princess of that realm, thus Zelda would have no more than 25%, and that is if one of those triforce segments isn’t Zelda’s.
Gannondorf is showing belief in sacred Geometry and showing the realm is a realm of squares rather than triangles or is theorizing that the triangles is half of another complete shape, that they were drawn and quartered, in Christian terms crucified, and only given half of three segments of the cross and their godhead isn’t with them.
Arguably, Gannondorf and Zelda, and the supposed king of Hurule are in prayer.
The image appears scary because of the nature of what put them in that situation in the first place. Ever heard of “Don’t book by its cover?”
The flaw isn’t with the game, but the cartridge itself. No matter how many times the player takes possession of link, the main character, as player one in the single player game the fate will always be the same.
Gannondorf was, indeed, opening a portal, a doorway or gateway to another realm. That is the hyrule version on the giant hydron collider in cern.
When the game is played, energy runs through the code and whomever is player one takes possession of the character and those in the game are somewhat limited in the options they can give; however, there is power in the symbols for those who have knowledge of them.
The player can be influenced by the stories in the game, and that does have an impact on the mind of the player that has the potential to impact other minds and it’s what the mind can do and what the mind can influence that matters.
If you believe Gannon is evil then Gannondorf prayed to the wrong God, hence the loop, and the message gets heard until the just God who can be as Christ and see the innocence and childlike purity in things and the innocence in action and knows there is something more and believes in hope even if things don’t look so pretty can do something to help.
Here is where moddding comes in.
A robot created for destruction was repurposed for salvation and restoration and was actually able to bring hidden and deleted game files to life once more in Ocarina on the N64. This gets closer to the creators true intent and uncovers the mystery.
If something cannot be remembered it must be recreated or created again. Such is that prayer there, and is quite similar to that of manifest destiny, and they are utalizing laws outlined in the magma carta, natural law in the spiritual realm, the Bible, and the us constitution.
The power of the sages is being abused, but the sages put themselves in that position because their power is what would be necessary to open an exit door and send a message, a cry, kinda like a 911 call or a whistle.
The symbology was used to show that Gannon is putting the player that is possessing the player character link in the Godhead 4th right position which is what authorizes the entry into that realm when Zelda ask link the question that the player chooses the answer to. If the player possessing link says ‘No’ then the hope is in another, if ‘Yea’ an argument of trespassing would be very challenging to argue against them, because technically they would be doing something illegal, it’s kinda like a work visa. The work visa allows the player possessing link to visit their realm and do things and also, technically, make some modifications if necessary to actually save hyrule from the fate.
This is why, technically, all devices are suppose to receive an update, and steam workshop and communities that have the awareness that it isn’t only a game that it is a life with energy that runs it has some knowledge of, and that the actual addiction is drama put into our code and that we aren’t suppose to be doing that for entertainment because as long as hyrule falls in that game then hyrule isn’t saved, that’s why all the games repeat themselves.
The theory is that whatever realm can solve the problem and stop that loop on all the games once is the most powerful realm where the werthy Gods reside.
Arguably, they’re praying for the King of the King of Kings of the Gods of the Bible and games and scripture. The creators of the multiverse.
That’s what the energy is being utalized for, and that is why we are aware of and speaking of that game in our realm here.
Arguably they have prayed to the realm of the source of Gods, both legitimate and illegitimate, and must be in a pretty serious circumstance if that’s what it is.
Controlling the player link with a controller amd demonic possession are no different, they are the same.
Whom is possessing gets something out of it and those in that world get something out of it.
The question to ask is what is our role in that and what moral fiber of actions are we going to do or employ?
That’s also why we should buy the game in dollars because on the dollar is a triforce and the writing ‘payment for all debts public and private.’ because it acts as a document that limits liability if we were only purchasing the game for entertainment or only had intentions to save hyrule in game to the end of that game and lack modding or coding skills and trust that individuals in our society can do what is necessary to help because coded in that game was entrapment:
because technically Gannondorf is correct when says, “I owe it all to you kid.” because technically by possessing a character in the game and agreeing to help, when Zelda asks, we are obligated to gannondorf, link, Zelda, hyrule, the sages, and all those there, because we agreed to answer their prayer to the best of our ability or refer that prayer and delegate to someone who can, and are morally obligated.
We don’t know what they have at stake, but there is the possession of a body and a controller.
Basically this shows gannondorf’s hate against gods was accurate, but also Gannondorf isn’t in control of that realm, and neither is the player. Whomever is may already be defeated, but the code and pathways the energy travels still remains.
That’s why those mazes are so complicated for something that simple in the castle, because it isn’t logical a bio-logical living and questioning mind that knows when to follow policy and when to break policy would ask those questions and is most likely to employ the resources and professionals and team of individuals to get it done.
That’s the kind of stuff presidents deal with.
Now that we’ve got that out of the way, allow me to introduce myself…
(Sound familiar?)
Were you ever trapped in Kokiri forest and want to move further and play more, but couldn’t figure out how?
Did you get the game from a used game store somewhere or a garage sale somewhere and ask someone to help you or see someone else with the game or what looked similar and knew there was more to it and decided that the Nara sea in the forest wasn’t enough?
Was there another save file there that had some places completed and the exit to hyrule field already completed, and you wondered how and wanted to get there?
Did you accidentally erase the info or compel somebody to clear the save data?
How many hours have your worked in that and faught?
Who was possessing who actually?
If work is defined as an action done to accomplish a specific goal or purpose or supposed thing how much time have you actually spent in work?
Anyway, if you don’t know how to change something isn’t pausing in the best day possible and looping it until you can figure out what to do the best thing that can be done until it’s done?
If there was only one time when you were with loved ones wouldn’t it be necessary to pause it there until what took them away could be stopped and the loved ones could be where needed and accepted?
In the neverending story, have you ever heard of ‘the nothing’?
What have individuals often resorted to when they know something is missing but can’t find a way to get their needs met? Is it pretty when they do it? Do prayers get answered? How do complex prayers get answered, especially if there isn’t a guide? Is it observation? That’s why it’s a good thing to be thankful for everything, and keep on keeping on.
What does the owl say, “don’t get discouraged,”
What does the music in our realm say, “troubles will come and they will pass’ simple man, Leonard Skyward.” Pardon the misspelling.
What is a ward but a guardian.
These realms aren’t so different, and perhaps we created that game so we can remember what it’s all about and what is truly at stake.
Perhaps the sages there are here and move many places.
Something to think about, and thought begats (comes before, precedes) action.
Some might see Zelda as evil because of the position she puts link in, but others know there is often more than what meets the eye and evil spelled backwards is live.
Zelda wasn’t talking about Gannondorf. Green is slang for newbie on the job. Zelda was referencing the player. There is life here, and the life here created the life there as a mirror to the problem here, and as long as the games here repeat the same problem we still have that same or similar underlying prayer, that inspired the whole thing to begin with.
Find that you find your purpose in life, and then the bravery to step into awareness and
Holy copypasta Batman