Should You Grind For The KF-41 Lynx?

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  • Intro (0:00)
    Stats (0:28)
    Rewards (1:06)
    Cinematic (2:11)
    MALDing (1:43)
    mobility (2:24)
    X-rays (3:46)
    Active Protection System (4:37)
    Armour (5:18)
    Gun (6:29)
    Reload (7:26)
    Turret Traverse (7:37)
    Gun Handling (8:00)
    Ammo (8:52)
    Spike (10:09)
    CANT GET LOCK (10:41)
    Minimum Range on Spikes (11:02)
    Conclusion (11:34)
    MOMMY (12:49)
    Outro (12:57)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 199

  • @jaek_898
    @jaek_898 8 місяців тому +139

    Glad italy can keep taking Ls in top tier ground even in the form of other countries 🙏

    • @emilelerate6454
      @emilelerate6454 8 місяців тому +4

      Thank you jaek for spitting absolute facts.

    • @DanySdowo
      @DanySdowo 8 місяців тому +6

      Yeah so cool to have mi24s, t72, btr, ZSUs in the italian tt... so realistic

    • @gopnik9991
      @gopnik9991 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@DanySdowoAnd so fun to grind those unique vehicles

    • @highjumpstudios2384
      @highjumpstudios2384 8 місяців тому

      And I wouldn't have it any other way.

  • @lfotzblitz7436
    @lfotzblitz7436 8 місяців тому +76

    The minimum engagement distance of the spikes is roughly 200 m. And it has 2 different trajectories which you can choose. A lofted and a flat one. In game it doesn´t get any of features it has in real life.

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 8 місяців тому +18

      The 30mm itself have its features left out, such as variable rate of fire which is probably the most important.

    • @commandergeokam2868
      @commandergeokam2868 8 місяців тому +4

      @@k_balu-8104 and dont forget that it can shoot ahead rounds

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 8 місяців тому +5

      @@commandergeokam2868I know that it can fire AHEAD rounds, its even in the game but implemented poorly

    • @Falkenlp3
      @Falkenlp3 8 місяців тому +3

      @@k_balu-8104yeah u neee to rangefind to make it work but it is a problem wenn ur trying hitting a plane. Normaly the firecrontrol system does this. Thx Gaijin for that.

    • @zeitgeistx5239
      @zeitgeistx5239 8 місяців тому

      You guys complain when Longbow Apache cannot get its fire and forget Hellfires because of Russian bias. IRL Longbow can pop up behind a hill and lock up 16 targets with its MMW radar and fire all 16 Hellfires and duck back behind cover.

  • @surgetsann
    @surgetsann 8 місяців тому +41

    its funny how every new cutting edge western IFV added to the game always ends up being worse in every way to the BMP... sasuga gaijin-dono...

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому +4

      The Lynx is meant to be a cheaper alternative to the PUMA, it has access to more recent tech like the APS and Spikes but it’s not cutting edge

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 8 місяців тому +11

      ​@@maplearrow1842ironically in real life it's better than the puma

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому +6

      @@spartanx9293 Electronic wise maybe because it’s more recent, but it has less protection and a manned turret.

    • @ShinyRIS
      @ShinyRIS 8 місяців тому +2

      @@maplearrow1842ah yes because the puma was definitely not made to use spikes

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 8 місяців тому

      @@maplearrow1842 actually there are variants with an unmaned turret the upcoming XM30 is planned to be

  • @k_balu-8104
    @k_balu-8104 8 місяців тому +32

    This thing was supposed to be immune to 30mm APDS from the front at least, those motherfuckers lied to me.
    Its still dosen't have the higher fire rate mode that its supposed to have, 30mm MK 30-2/ABM have two modes of firing, 200 RpM for ground and 700-800 RpM for air and sea targets, but it makes little to no sense why it dosen't have it in the game.
    The Strikeshield barely works.
    Its supposed to have a two more Spikes in the hull too.
    AHEAD ammo not even working as it was intended.

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому

      It works against ATGM’s, you just have to keep moving otherwise you’ll catch fire and will have to use a for charge for some reason. Doesn’t work against HEAT though, idk if it was designed to

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 8 місяців тому

      @@maplearrow1842 HEAT and ATGM technicly works on the same principle in the game, only their usage is different

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому +1

      @@k_balu-8104 What I mean is HEAT fired by an MBT always has a higher velocity compared to ATGM’s, so some APS don’t have the reaction time to deal with both

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 8 місяців тому

      @@maplearrow1842 oh okay then, it makes sense

    • @Modeus_
      @Modeus_ 8 місяців тому +3

      Strikeshield irl is fast enough to intercept almost any projectile beyond 10m, no matter the speed. Which would obviously be very busted, but it might make the vehicle worth the br.

  • @Speedycar100
    @Speedycar100 8 місяців тому +14

    The only thing that makes the puma viable is the turret being completely fine to be shot. The kf41 has got to be hell

  • @jetnavigator
    @jetnavigator 8 місяців тому +6

    Gaijin's answer will be to make the Freccia 11.0.

  • @GodWentAFK
    @GodWentAFK 8 місяців тому +3

    They're definitely throwing darts to determine BRs

  • @henrybourgeois9484
    @henrybourgeois9484 8 місяців тому +31

    Im just hoping they can give us the PUMA with spikes and actual AHEAD ammunition for the 30mm gun

    • @fabioa3293
      @fabioa3293 8 місяців тому +15

      I Hope not, seing german mains cry makes my day better

    • @annguyenlehoang7779
      @annguyenlehoang7779 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@fabioa3293me too love seeing crying 😂

    • @leonidasbaneofpersia9069
      @leonidasbaneofpersia9069 8 місяців тому

      ​@@fabioa3293Why?

    • @thybonheng1485
      @thybonheng1485 8 місяців тому

      ​@@fabioa3293ha bastard mind your own business

    • @huytran7487
      @huytran7487 8 місяців тому

      @@annguyenlehoang7779ngu

  • @SilentButDudley
    @SilentButDudley 8 місяців тому +30

    Both the Bushmaster 30mm and MK30 deserve buffs to their APFSDS post pen damage to make up for their lower fire rates. The Russian 30mm doesn’t suffer since it’s got triple the fire rate after all…

    • @Kwisss
      @Kwisss 8 місяців тому +7

      Buff all APFSDS

    • @j.k6943
      @j.k6943 8 місяців тому +1

      By the way the Russian 30mm also has artificially lowered drag so it keeps penetration over distance way better than the MK30.
      Oh and the PMC287 is missing 60% of its mass so the damage is unrealistically bad.

  • @wifi_soldier5076
    @wifi_soldier5076 8 місяців тому +16

    i wish we actully got the Dardo puma. it uses an uparmored dardo hull, with an unmanned turret with spike atgm.

    • @torgeirlundbekk7749
      @torgeirlundbekk7749 8 місяців тому

      Same

    • @lilcoolcat
      @lilcoolcat 8 місяців тому

      It will come eventually… question is when tho….

    • @RedSAM-yw8rn
      @RedSAM-yw8rn 8 місяців тому

      I Wish for the IVECO SUPER AV an amphibious wheeled IFV with a 30mm unmanned turret and spike launcher , also the leonardo M60A3 Would be really Cool

    • @eagelseye8089
      @eagelseye8089 8 місяців тому

      Never heared about it. I thought Italy considers to buy the Lynx as a replacement for their aging dardo fleet too.

    • @eagelseye8089
      @eagelseye8089 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RedSAM-yw8rnThe Super AV would be cool, but then I would like to see more maps with larger rivers that can only be crossed via bridges and more nations then italy to actually get their amphibious apcs and ifvs.
      But the main issue would also effect this possible vehicle is the bad implementation of the Spike missile. I can't speak from personal experience with the Lynx yet, but with the Freccia I need on average 3-4 spike MR for a kill. Either you are too close (which concerns most maps) and Spike doesn't hit properly or you are far away but she hits a tree or the vehicle is able to take cover behind which Spike should be able to see from the greater height, but this doesn't always work properly. And the worst thing is that you can only lock on an enemy when he has completely left cover, while the enemy can shoot at you long before that.

  • @BatteredWalrus
    @BatteredWalrus 8 місяців тому +4

    Unfortunately they've modeled almost everything about it wrong

  • @legaroojack1251
    @legaroojack1251 8 місяців тому +1

    A pretty big problem with its shrapnel shells( also the PUMA obviously) is that theyre meant to be programed as they exit the barrel, so when you lock onto an aircraft with your main gun each round coming out should instantly be programed and explode near the aircraft without you having to program it yourself.

  • @sumtingwong8230
    @sumtingwong8230 8 місяців тому +4

    imagine if it got the proper lofting like the qn506 so it could effectively work at close range, still don't know why they didn't just give the puma an upgrade kit for it's spikes.

  • @KrevetkoOnub
    @KrevetkoOnub 8 місяців тому +5

    1:45 Freccia have Spike-MR and KF-41 have Spike-LR2
    still dunno what the difference between them

    • @einstein3100
      @einstein3100 8 місяців тому

      I think they are the same in war thunder in real life the LR has more range

    • @arandomperson7591
      @arandomperson7591 8 місяців тому +3

      @@einstein3100 i did a 2 minute research, it seems LR2 irl can have a selectable detonation fuse, a new target tracker with artificial intelligence, ability to fire on grid coordinates, and also have counter active protection capability

  • @elchurcho2704
    @elchurcho2704 8 місяців тому +4

    A missile wich should be really good is absolute dog shit in game and even give you LESS ammo than its predesesor🤦🏻‍♂️... Truly a "russian game" moment

  • @localdrugseller6431
    @localdrugseller6431 8 місяців тому +1

    Gaijin should
    -Add direct fire mode for top down missiles
    -Add aiming at a point rather than center mass for fire and forget missiles
    -Remove external fuel tanks burning crew
    and suddenly this tank and freccia and even chinese one are worth something.

  • @schattenwolf6129
    @schattenwolf6129 8 місяців тому +1

    Well, we have to say that it was never intended to fight MBTs at close range or from the front for that matter. It was intended to get Infantry to the front line and defend them against helis and other light vehicles and some MBTs, or as a support for MBTs...

    • @vincea1830
      @vincea1830 10 годин тому

      They still managed to get every single one of it's features wrong.

  • @hubbel6831
    @hubbel6831 8 місяців тому +8

    Wow puma on higher br but even more useless
    "meh you can shoot out barrels" yeah very fun gameplay....

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому +3

      The Puma isn’t useless, it’s an absolute menace against light vehicles and on a flank. And yes, it’s really easy to take out a breach especially if the enemy messed up their shot.

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 8 місяців тому

      @@maplearrow1842 IF they mess up the shot, which is not the case mostly. Its not a reliable way of surviving. And thats the thing, most players use MBTs, not light tanks, while sure there are still light tanks here and there, but around 60-70% of a match is made up with MBTs. Then there is also the fact that IF you are gonna encounter the said light tanks at all, before they or you dying.

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому +1

      @@k_balu-8104 I’d say 40% of the time your enemy will miss their shot or only partially wound you, especially it’s a premium tank. You mostly see light tanks at the start of the match (flanking and rushing caps) and late in it (no more MBT’s to spawn in)

    • @Cheesycat0
      @Cheesycat0 8 місяців тому

      ​@maplearrow1842 uts lit worse on a flank compared to any after German vehicles in that br(or lower) and the gun is one if the worst auto cannonns

    • @hubbel6831
      @hubbel6831 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Cheesycat0 the only thing that is worse is the warrior :/

  • @communisticus191
    @communisticus191 8 місяців тому +6

    Don't have it yet, but it seems like itll be pretty fantastic for me, probably going to finish grinding out my Italian tree so I can get it. It seems incredibly similar to the Swedish CV9040 BILL, except it can survive MBT HMG fire, has a faster firing lower pen gun (which is great, since its not like the CV9040 could fight MBTs from the front with the 20mm extra pen), and is faster (hell maybe its transmission isnt bugged and actually works with automatic shifting), with the only real tradeoff being less overall missiles. Given how, even with all the issues the CV9040 has in game, its still by favorite vehicle, I cant wait to get my hands on the lynx

    • @bootlegpete7984
      @bootlegpete7984 8 місяців тому +5

      Take it from someone who has hours on the PUMA. Its DOA at 10.0. 2 Spike missiles ain't gonna change that.

    • @lafosh7234
      @lafosh7234 8 місяців тому +1

      Dude I’ve spaded it.. it is absolutely torture at 10.7- 11.7 fighting T80BVM’s

    • @fabioa3293
      @fabioa3293 8 місяців тому +1

      Dude don't trust whoever says the lynx Is very bad, It isn't, it's fairly good

    • @lafosh7234
      @lafosh7234 8 місяців тому +2

      @@fabioa3293 what is good about it at that br?

    • @communisticus191
      @communisticus191 8 місяців тому

      @@bootlegpete7984 The missiles arent why the tank seems good to me though (since I use both 40Cs at 11.7 that dont have missiles), its the puma gun which is fantastic, combined with the fact it has more speed and armour than the light tanks that im used to at 10.0.

  • @thecatbims1795
    @thecatbims1795 8 місяців тому +3

    I like how u fixed it in the Thumbnail

  • @ShatteredArchive5447
    @ShatteredArchive5447 8 місяців тому

    Ngl I was lost asf when I saw the PM of Italy for a vid on a Hungarian Vic in war thunder then remembered it’s in the Italian tree. Thanks for a goofy laugh

  • @joranbor5263
    @joranbor5263 8 місяців тому

    did you chance the intro agian looks nice btw

  • @STRYKER1467
    @STRYKER1467 8 місяців тому

    You forgot to mention it has space for 4 spikes as it is in common but gaijin only added 2 spikes and left the lower section empty.

  • @chocolat-kun8689
    @chocolat-kun8689 8 місяців тому

    They should give this thing more missiles. Despite Top attacks being pinpoint. The damage output is very inconsistent and they keep at hitting the same spot, and that spot is either the barrel or frontal turret armor itself.

  • @dearadolfh8744
    @dearadolfh8744 8 місяців тому

    Tell me why you cant cary spikes in the back, why spikes target barrel and not roof and than it hits the barrel it doesn’t break it?

    • @legaroojack1251
      @legaroojack1251 8 місяців тому

      Because its not a russian vehicle so they made it fucking terrible.

  • @jackgamer6307
    @jackgamer6307 7 місяців тому

    Gaijin probably put it higher than the freccia because of the APS. Also, external fuel tanks in wt mean you don't have to extinguish them, and if they catch fire it won't damage you at all
    Edit: AHEAD shells are supposed to be set automatically by the FCS of the tank to explode ahead of thr target aircraft. Like HE-TF shells, but it should be all done automatically. Yes that means calculating target speed, direction, and direction of travel, all at once

  • @Shamelover1
    @Shamelover1 8 місяців тому

    The AHEAD shell doesn't work either btw. It doesn't work on the PUMA and it haven't been fixed yet.

  • @tavolo2969
    @tavolo2969 8 місяців тому

    Nah bro, meloni in the Thumbnail is just too much fun

  • @yureinobbie68
    @yureinobbie68 8 місяців тому

    At least melons would be heavier than the 0.1kg ammo. Too bad it's not loaded with them.
    Thanks for suffering through this thing, saves me the pain and the grind.

  • @ah-64apache92
    @ah-64apache92 8 місяців тому

    I realy love your humor sako XD

  • @uniquescorpions4802
    @uniquescorpions4802 8 місяців тому

    Lol I like the meme, this thing is amazing

  • @lilcoolcat
    @lilcoolcat 8 місяців тому

    I feel like they can easily give the lynx 8 total missiles I mean like look at all that empty space it has now sure it’s for crew but I mean is it really a stretch to imagine the crews would put extra missiles in that space given the opportunity.

  • @rohartmartin8329
    @rohartmartin8329 8 місяців тому +2

    I still do not understand why German mains so desire FnF missiles... they are currently so unreliable and relies on too many variables to actually hit if not kill, even if that vehicle is mediocre i'd still play it just for annoy those crybabies about their missing pixel armament.

    • @andraslukacs1344
      @andraslukacs1344 8 місяців тому

      well its quite simple why german mains want a proper missle. the best missle in the entire german IFV line is the I-tow with 550mm if i remember correctly and it doesnt have a tandem warhead

  • @vincentreim8962
    @vincentreim8962 8 місяців тому +2

    2:02 it’s german like wtf are they doing in the German matchmaker

  • @iceicebabyil
    @iceicebabyil 8 місяців тому +7

    Needs moved down to 9.7 or 10.0 or given stronger ammo as well as more spikes

    • @k_balu-8104
      @k_balu-8104 8 місяців тому +2

      Giving it stronger ammo is practicly impossible cause there is no stronger ammo, realisticly speaking it could get 2 spare Spikes stored in the hull, 10.0 would be a great BR for it as, PUMA should go down back to 9.7 though. OR move everything up 0.3 except these two and give the 8.0 lineups more breathing room.

    • @iceicebabyil
      @iceicebabyil 8 місяців тому +1

      @@k_balu-8104 agreed

    • @user-nn9zh3bn3q
      @user-nn9zh3bn3q 8 місяців тому +1

      @@k_balu-8104it could get all of the features of the spike, making it by far the best in the atgm in the game instead of the worst one

    • @invertedv12powerhouse77
      @invertedv12powerhouse77 8 місяців тому +2

      they put the german one is 10.0 without missiles lmao

    • @Cheesycat0
      @Cheesycat0 8 місяців тому +1

      Lol so the community can cry just like when the puma was 9.0?

  • @thybonheng1485
    @thybonheng1485 8 місяців тому

    Remember they put the puma at 10.0 with only 30mm and no active protection also useless armor

  • @TomPrickVixen
    @TomPrickVixen 8 місяців тому +4

    That is how GAYjin thinks! They take the base BR of a basic similar vehicle and for each extra feature/upgrade they increase the BR bracket, like how some cruisers of the same class has a different BR with sometimes the only difference is something nonsense, like a float-plane.

  • @Dominator4794
    @Dominator4794 8 місяців тому +1

    MELONS

  • @Storlans
    @Storlans 8 місяців тому

    well if its good like the CV90 was in the past, it would just get nerfed into the ground.

  • @AbdurrahmanZedSaeed
    @AbdurrahmanZedSaeed 8 місяців тому

    What the... the thumbnail😂

  • @MrTheWaterbear
    @MrTheWaterbear 8 місяців тому +1

    We are melons men

  • @blueflames6961
    @blueflames6961 8 місяців тому

    If it only got spikes...

  • @Schimml0rd
    @Schimml0rd 8 місяців тому

    1:13 HOW does he hit you???

  • @theangrychicken5026
    @theangrychicken5026 8 місяців тому

    You know the KF41 used by Hungray right?... sure its in the italian tech tree but its not being used by meloni's puppets...

  • @WiseOwl_1408
    @WiseOwl_1408 8 місяців тому

    Damn buddy is bitter

  • @nathprasenjit0342
    @nathprasenjit0342 8 місяців тому

    Should've come with meloni

  • @MeanGreeny
    @MeanGreeny 8 місяців тому

    MELONS and you're welcome

  • @mamarussellthepie3995
    @mamarussellthepie3995 8 місяців тому +1

    Can't believe they wanna replace the CHADLEY with this shit xD just give the chadley that shmexy adjustable SUSpension with a beefier motor and 50mm gun xD (plus optional spikes/hellfires/tows/tow replacements depending on mission smh xD

    • @tedparkinson2033
      @tedparkinson2033 8 місяців тому +1

      Yes. Because a video game is an accurate and totally flawless way to judge what equipment a military should purchase.

  • @Faded._
    @Faded._ 8 місяців тому

    try playing the type 93, then we'll who suffers the most hehhehehhehehe(sorry)

  • @FlatEarthIsTrueEarth
    @FlatEarthIsTrueEarth 8 місяців тому +2

    Good video 👍but it hurt my feelings ):

  • @DyonisX
    @DyonisX 8 місяців тому

    You really launched a spike at an LVT

    • @hubbel6831
      @hubbel6831 8 місяців тому

      Yeah with that gun it's take an hour to kill something

    • @SAKOSNIPER
      @SAKOSNIPER  8 місяців тому +1

      LVT is a very dangerous and feared opponent

    • @hubbel6831
      @hubbel6831 8 місяців тому

      @@SAKOSNIPER he could pen you from the front

  • @MentulPanda
    @MentulPanda 8 місяців тому +1

    Why has allah forsaken italy every update

  • @Naster_12
    @Naster_12 8 місяців тому +3

    Melons

  • @Shamelover1
    @Shamelover1 8 місяців тому

    Hmm.. If you think this tank is bad, try playing the Puma at 10.0 xd

  • @chrisbacon3071
    @chrisbacon3071 8 місяців тому

    This IFV is a melon! 🙄

  • @bruman182
    @bruman182 8 місяців тому

    2:59 classic trashcan bot player only good enough to track you at full speed. One reason I hate this game.

  • @NyanCatMatt
    @NyanCatMatt 8 місяців тому +1

    Good video first of all. I love this thing, and I actually agree with the 10.7 BR, but maybe it could go down to 10.3 so it's not constantly sucked into full uptiers.
    My only advice is to play this passively, go off to the side, be a scout, and use the the spikes (I know only 2) as your primary weapon. If you want to be aggressive, use it like a BTR/Marder or god forbid, a Wiesel. But even playing it like those, you still need to be the flanker these things are designed to be. Be patient and wait for the enemy to be perpendicular to you for the least amount of armor. This thing isn't meant to be on the front lines, it's opportunistic.

    • @NineSeptims
      @NineSeptims 8 місяців тому +2

      players when they realize they can't play a AFV like an MBT: ITS SHIT!

  • @napoleonetalcei1242
    @napoleonetalcei1242 8 місяців тому

    Giorgia Meloni body pillow? 🤨🤨🤨

  • @jetnavigator
    @jetnavigator 8 місяців тому +1

    The map changes are disastrous. They're progressively turning open maps into close quarters. Just great for missiles!

  • @patrickwelch365
    @patrickwelch365 8 місяців тому

    just give it 10.3 or 10.0

  • @mywafflebroke6874
    @mywafflebroke6874 8 місяців тому

    I can agree with this going to 10.3

  • @mattin5850
    @mattin5850 8 місяців тому

    Puma shouldn't be 10.0 and this 10.7

  • @Batlafication
    @Batlafication 8 місяців тому +1

    Melons.

  • @lirikdauti6163
    @lirikdauti6163 8 місяців тому

    frekkie

  • @Vollpfosten
    @Vollpfosten 8 місяців тому +1

    And then the PUMA also at 10.0 without spikes...

  • @TheSOLRRaC
    @TheSOLRRaC 8 місяців тому

    0:11 Useless data, Pastrami is romanian not italian XD

  • @badgamelover5810
    @badgamelover5810 8 місяців тому

    im in the video mom i made it !!

  • @camotyger4428
    @camotyger4428 8 місяців тому +1

    melons

  • @coucoul38
    @coucoul38 8 місяців тому

    I hate melons :(

  • @Cpt_Wolf
    @Cpt_Wolf 8 місяців тому +1

    Melons 😅

  • @allenhacker1490
    @allenhacker1490 8 місяців тому +1

    🍈🍈

  • @coolgamerpal6681
    @coolgamerpal6681 8 місяців тому

    the puma cannot pen much of anything frontally at its br, so by moving that up 0.7 you have butchered the poor tank

  • @jamesblake1848
    @jamesblake1848 8 місяців тому +1

    Melon's 🤣

  • @johnnyflores3426
    @johnnyflores3426 8 місяців тому

    Melons 🍈

  • @TheCROHELLBOY
    @TheCROHELLBOY 8 місяців тому +1

    Melons ;)

  • @ThePadadada
    @ThePadadada 8 місяців тому

    freccia way better

  • @Chronesys
    @Chronesys 8 місяців тому +8

    Hardly a surprise. The whole hungarian line is the usual "minimum effort" bs that gaijin reserve to italy. Too many of those tanks do not mach any other lineup already existing and they are too few to form new lineup. On top of that hungary do not fix the 2 main italian issue: the lack of a strong top br mbt or spaa

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому

      The Arietes are decent ever since they got DM53, especially the AMV version

    • @LucasJa-kw7hf
      @LucasJa-kw7hf 8 місяців тому +2

      There are many vehicles left to add to the Hungarian subtree, calm down.

    • @Chronesys
      @Chronesys 8 місяців тому

      @@maplearrow1842 The AMV is totally on par with a Leopard 2a6 or a T80bvm right? No armor, no armor packages that should have stock and no roof mounted machineguns. If anything all the Ariete a are over br

    • @Chronesys
      @Chronesys 8 місяців тому

      @@LucasJa-kw7hf Why? Even the supposed "best" veichle in the Hungarian tech tree suck. They had time and they choose to implement the Hungarian line in the worst possibile way. Sweden have 2 of the strongest Leopard 2 and got 2 more with the finish line. Italy only got something that was not needed. Calm down? How about no

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 8 місяців тому

      @@Chronesys Just because it’s not the top meta doesn’t mean it’s bad. Yes it doesn’t have armor but you shouldn’t rely on it at top tier anyway.
      Armor packages just give more HEAT protection in exchange of less mobility which isn’t worth it, and what are you on about half of them have roof machineguns?
      Arietes are fine where they are. The P is still at 10.0 because it has worse armor and ammo, the PSO and WAR versions are 11.3 which is fair (same BR as all the squadron tanks) and the AMV is 11.7 because it has much better mobility just like the Challenger 2E.

  • @Joker61861
    @Joker61861 8 місяців тому +1

    Melons

  • @TheBziam
    @TheBziam 8 місяців тому

    Melons.

  • @halo3soap114
    @halo3soap114 8 місяців тому +1

    Melons