@@RobDavisAkaMonkyou would die like this in a one Vs 3? No way. All you need to do is have two of your team wall and boom and the other person pressure his economy. 3 x 1200 would win this fight
AGREED! I haven't played since like 2005 and I had no idea this game was so vibrant and getting updates. This was one of my favorites and it was all hotseat or offline.
@@littlenemos1536Yeah I just got back into it recently. I’m terrified of competitive play because I’m a slow player. These videos are fun to watch though.
Hera can probably beat 7 800 ELO players, that's because they will all stay in their bases waiting for Hera to attack first, creating their Sim city style house complexes, and perfectly aligned farms, while they research/train one of each tech/unit
Im a 815 player. My win loss is 57:49. Those are also all of my AoE2 games ever, I started playing only cos I found Hera, Viper and small caster channel online and loved the game. I basically have all of my wins in sub 30 mins and all are early goth man at arms or magyar scout rushes. 800 elo players dont really scout before imo basically😂
I've been trying to do 1vs3s because of the Masterclass achievement, I believe and am reasonably sure after a bunch of testing that a "fair fight" for a 1vs3 would be if the 1 is approx 200 to 250 rating skillwise above the 3. A difference of 1800 is just pure bullying.
I think what let them down here was they did not seem to have a solid game plan going into this. If one boomed got into castle age quickly while the other two tried to attack/defend I think things would of been a lot tougher. Blue not having loom was really greedy, difference between 5 hits and 10 hits from scouts is a big difference (without forging). And as Hera said they had no one focused on ranged units. Franks going skirmishers is not ideal.
Agreed. Surprised there was so little Feudal/Early aggression. This kind of game would someone, even if they're not experienced... a chance to do a unique strategy was the way to go. If you're outmatched, you gotta try something.
The frustration in that coach would be palpable. Sounds entertaining. That said, most players at a lower level struggle to just focus on the task at hand. Trying to incorporate in-game coaching would probably not work that well for most of them.
It would be interesting to have a map where the solo player starts with the same number of TCs as the number of opponent players and set a rule to have the solo player able to play with more than 200 pop, you'd be able to play around with the number of TCs for the solo player and agreed upon pop limits for both sides.
I oscillate between being disgusted, fascinated and reeeeeally fucking impressed. I didn't know that such a high efficient apm is actually possible physically.
In this kind of games I think you need to attack as earlier as possible, spam militia in dark (I gues Hera mention that this strat is forbiden) and dont let boom, then 1 of them goes to Feudal and add archers. Even if they play standard and go feud 19-20 pop then spam scouts and arches, you have more resources then Hera. And here we can see that only Incas tried to do some pressure. Franks and Magyars have strong scouts and did nothing. Yes, they lost couple vils, but still should be capable make 2-3 scouts each.
Yeah realy cool video ! What an amzing work ! And about the color of the ennemys, I prefer when you are blue and all ennemys are red, it's easier to watch via the map
If he wasn't wearing headphones you'd see the steam piping out of his ears from your brain firing on all cylinders. That was a very entertaining game to watch. No, my friends and I can't beat you lmao.
I believe that real beginner are way less than 1000 elo, i am just around 1050 and i certainly don't consider myself as a beginner. I believe that it is the same case as those 3 players. Amazing game by the way, well played! Always inspirering
@@dan-kn3dm there is no way a 1000 is intermediate. Watching them for 15 minutes is enough to know they suck at their starts and thats literally the most basic thing about the game.
I believe 1200 ELO and 2000 ELO are the boundaries of the game. Above 1200 means you know the basic strategy of the game (economics, early offense, counters, civs). Above 2000 can have the chance to go pro
As a 1000 elo player whose been playing since the age of 10 and played 1000's of games, many on the ranked ladder, I take great offense at the term "Beginner" for this elo lvl lol
i mean, its low level elo. U probably are not that invested into ranked. There is nothing wrong with being begginer, started playing 3 years ago and im still begginer.
@@FloosWorld_AoE i mean, the best player in the world is literally telling u its begginer level. Just look at how 1k people play, its not rocket science to know they are not even intermediate.
Colors are fine after you switched them. I like these kind of challenges, the problem is often the strategy choice by the 3 guys. Here, they should go really aggressive, like one flank playing drush fc into maybe conqs, pocket scouts into knights, other flank MaA+towers (e.g. with poles, than you have a nice castle age spam). Bring the aggression to Hera, keep him at his base. Then you have 3 working economies vs 1,
Maybe. The problem with something like a drush, though, is that they would do virtually no damage. The drush would arrive after Hera is already in Feudal and it wouldn't really delay him.
@@martijnbouman8874 If you play drush fc, you can drush earlier because you're only saving for feudal age afterwards. Even pre mill drush is fine here since it isn't a 1v1. You don't need to do damage. You want to buy time (he will have to vill fight or with his first scouts/archers) so that you can wall up behind. And then the next player can continue to fight at Hera's base. Again, scouts/towers won't do any damage because of Heras micro, but it is enough if the 3 players can stay healthy at home during the early game. They need to leverage their pop adavantage
I would build one more tc and that would be main base near my first tc. First tc would be just fake. Hera didnt have time to explore corners and would not discover it till I fully boom.
we used to play in elementary school with our IT teacher. He always picked one of us (lucky guy) as his aly ( mostly for trade) and went 2v6 against others. We always got stomped by him superhard haha. He was always playing franks and flooded everyone with swarms of paladins, or castledroped our TCs when we were still in dark age :D I think he was enjoying being a bully :D I remember in one game, i was playing teutons and was last man standing, managed to get to imp and to elite TKs . Good thing was that our teacher refused to make anything else then palas and trebuchets so my TKs put up a good fight, i remember other guys cheering me up, it was awesome. So awesome that its over 20 years and i still remember it. :) I eventually lost because castle push but hey, moment to remember for me. I think i might beat him today tho :P
Crazy APM there! 😮 Imho, what got them was the lack of coordination and a clear strategy. I mean, they should have picked up definite roles (offense, castle boom etc) right at the start.
Good stuff Hera! BTW - Towers would have slowed you down a bit. Also, if I ever play 3 v 1 against you, one of us will get Berbers so everyone can get Genitours 🙂
After getting much Wood and stones start building towers so they will protect with arrows, and you can move civilians in it so that tower will throw 5-6 arrows at ones 👍🏻 towers are best for defence!
This is my childhood games, use to play this game, offline on my crappy computer, using the race with the elephant (Forgot the clan/race name) and i would cheat (How do you turn this on) whenever i am ganked and got angry 😆. Good ol memories
I don't hate or even care what you do with colors. But curious thinking about it, why does it make a difference for you? I suspect you are just programmed somewhere deep down that blue = you? So faster reaction maybe.
It’s not competitive at all, and the clue is, Hera’s army is just mounted archers, he didn’t use siege, monks, knights, hussars, skirms (especially Vietnamese has imp skirms.. which he didn’t use). I am not saying that I can beat these three players, but it was obvious that Hera was chilling. WP for these guys and amazing play by Hera as always the KING of the desert.
Long time player.. first time actually watching a match... Ever.. and i see im not far off from being on that level. I just gotta stop a couple bad habits... and then make a wish to make a wish foundation.. and when that doesn't work... ill start practicing more and pay off Microsoft with bitcoin to rig the game for me :) lol and when nothing works,... ill just go to bed because dreams are where its all possible
I wanna try this with some friends and they all play melee units, should I go CA then? I am 1k elo and typically go archers I honestly don't know much about CAs haha Any other tips for 1v2/1v3s?
They have to scout him and walk their vils across the map to do this. If they douche, maybe, but one player bringing (6?) vils to harass a woodline or berries doesn't seem like enough compensation to drop a player..
Hmm I'd love to see Hera face off against 2 1400s elo random map (not team game elo 1 v 1s elo). I don't think its possible for a pro to take that on, but who knows
Hera how about now you play against the best xbox players with controller and give your opinions? I feel that the xbox community is somewhat forgotten :c
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Think you and ur friends can beat me? You can challenge me if you want, all info in my discord
I am in your discord but I dont have a clue where we can challenge you?:)
You are going down, GOAT!
Same, is it free for everyone or only with a twitch sub?
@@C2TheHill2910 I found it on coaching: It costs 150$
This is really cool of you to do
Yup. As a 1000 elo player i would die exactly like this.
😂😂 love the honesty
Where as I'm a 1200 elo player and would die exactly like this :D
@@RobDavisAkaMonkyou would die like this in a one Vs 3? No way. All you need to do is have two of your team wall and boom and the other person pressure his economy. 3 x 1200 would win this fight
@@simpudney8191that sounds like a challenge ;) you should go for it!
you will have died as a hero, having the gut to fight against Hera 🫡🫡
Insanely fast game play. Started playing again about a month ago and had no idea this game is played competitively. Really fun to watch!!
Welcome back to the game bro ❤
AGREED! I haven't played since like 2005 and I had no idea this game was so vibrant and getting updates. This was one of my favorites and it was all hotseat or offline.
@@littlenemos1536Yeah I just got back into it recently. I’m terrified of competitive play because I’m a slow player. These videos are fun to watch though.
@@brotherjorge3 just keep playing youll get used to be fast muscle memory
3 Professional Players vs 1 Beginner when?
cant upload that one on youtube if u know what i mean
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 oh boy
that video would get banned so fast
That would be on a different kind of website.😂
These are great
Would like to see this from a caster's perspective. Maybe a T90 & Hera collab?
This ☝
That was surgical. Would love to see the chat between those 3 while Hera has army in every base
-guys, help, he's at my base
-oh crap, he's at my base too
-you guys have a base?
this cracked me up 😂😂😂 @@agustinfranco0
My toxic trait is thinking that I could do that. Definitely not though! We’ll done Hera, you made that look effortless!!
"My hair is messed up"😂
Hera can probably beat 7 800 ELO players, that's because they will all stay in their bases waiting for Hera to attack first, creating their Sim city style house complexes, and perfectly aligned farms, while they research/train one of each tech/unit
Lmao, they literally go skrims with any civ.
7 is too hard for sure lmao
Im a 815 player. My win loss is 57:49. Those are also all of my AoE2 games ever, I started playing only cos I found Hera, Viper and small caster channel online and loved the game. I basically have all of my wins in sub 30 mins and all are early goth man at arms or magyar scout rushes. 800 elo players dont really scout before imo basically😂
I've been trying to do 1vs3s because of the Masterclass achievement, I believe and am reasonably sure after a bunch of testing that a "fair fight" for a 1vs3 would be if the 1 is approx 200 to 250 rating skillwise above the 3. A difference of 1800 is just pure bullying.
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 no you or viper could do 5 Vs elo 800.
Or max stack viper/hera Vs 6 @ elo 1000? Free choice on civs and map.
I feel like Hera should put something on the line for these games. Like if you beat him you get a limited edition 'I beat Hera' emote :)
And if you lose, you still get a t shirt that says "I got beat by Hera at aoe2, and all I got afterwards was this t shirt "
Bet I could take on at least one of them. Not to brag, but 33% as good as Hera is still pretty crazy.
Agree. I did and I am 12++
I think what let them down here was they did not seem to have a solid game plan going into this. If one boomed got into castle age quickly while the other two tried to attack/defend I think things would of been a lot tougher. Blue not having loom was really greedy, difference between 5 hits and 10 hits from scouts is a big difference (without forging). And as Hera said they had no one focused on ranged units. Franks going skirmishers is not ideal.
Agreed. Surprised there was so little Feudal/Early aggression. This kind of game would someone, even if they're not experienced... a chance to do a unique strategy was the way to go. If you're outmatched, you gotta try something.
we need a 1v3 where the 3 side is being coached by a professional player in game too. like quick wall or make this unit etc.
The frustration in that coach would be palpable. Sounds entertaining.
That said, most players at a lower level struggle to just focus on the task at hand. Trying to incorporate in-game coaching would probably not work that well for most of them.
It would be interesting to have a map where the solo player starts with the same number of TCs as the number of opponent players and set a rule to have the solo player able to play with more than 200 pop, you'd be able to play around with the number of TCs for the solo player and agreed upon pop limits for both sides.
you are right, if solo player cant eliminate early on with a rush, no skill can help you when it is 200 pop vs 600 pop
I oscillate between being disgusted, fascinated and reeeeeally fucking impressed. I didn't know that such a high efficient apm is actually possible physically.
I mean, it seems the best strategy would be to have 2 of the team to just wall you in a ton around early feudal and the 3rd boom into castle.
This is fun watching you go up against various elos!
The name Zeusboy rings a bell from somewhere
I just want to say 1000 elo isn't beginner, it's just the average player.
It would be an honor to engage in such a match up. 600-700 elo.
In this kind of games I think you need to attack as earlier as possible, spam militia in dark (I gues Hera mention that this strat is forbiden) and dont let boom, then 1 of them goes to Feudal and add archers. Even if they play standard and go feud 19-20 pop then spam scouts and arches, you have more resources then Hera.
And here we can see that only Incas tried to do some pressure. Franks and Magyars have strong scouts and did nothing. Yes, they lost couple vils, but still should be capable make 2-3 scouts each.
Yeah realy cool video ! What an amzing work !
And about the color of the ennemys, I prefer when you are blue and all ennemys are red, it's easier to watch via the map
Hooray i get to watch the rest of it finally 😂 nice vid hera bro
Skill differences aren’t linear in this game, more closer to logarithmic.
26:18 did he actually have 41 on STONE??? what an eco!!
Where did you see that?
3v1 rolling, hera “my hair its a mess” xD
Hera: guys you need a gold unit, a trash unit, and a siege unit
Also Hera: only makes cav archers to beat 3 players
trash: scouts, gold: CA, siege: treb
Would love to see more of this, great to watch!
If he wasn't wearing headphones you'd see the steam piping out of his ears from your brain firing on all cylinders. That was a very entertaining game to watch. No, my friends and I can't beat you lmao.
I believe that real beginner are way less than 1000 elo, i am just around 1050 and i certainly don't consider myself as a beginner. I believe that it is the same case as those 3 players. Amazing game by the way, well played! Always inspirering
I would say: low elo
1000 is begginer lvl tho
I'd say 1000 is somewhere between beginner and intermediate. I consider 900 a good beginner and 1100 as where solid intermediate starts.
Because of rounding errors and elo inflation, average elo is around 850 or so. So 1k players are better than average for sure.
@@dan-kn3dm there is no way a 1000 is intermediate. Watching them for 15 minutes is enough to know they suck at their starts and thats literally the most basic thing about the game.
When I think it took me 2 years of regular playing to get to 1k elo in Teamgames, and compared to Hera you feel like you just started playing haha
I believe 1200 ELO and 2000 ELO are the boundaries of the game. Above 1200 means you know the basic strategy of the game (economics, early offense, counters, civs). Above 2000 can have the chance to go pro
Really good content, as usual. GG Hera!
As a 1000 elo player whose been playing since the age of 10 and played 1000's of games, many on the ranked ladder, I take great offense at the term "Beginner" for this elo lvl lol
i mean, its low level elo. U probably are not that invested into ranked. There is nothing wrong with being begginer, started playing 3 years ago and im still begginer.
@@rikinotdeath 1000 in the Elo system is considered the absolute average :P
@@FloosWorld_AoE everyone knows that. Its average %playerbase and still a begginer level.
@@rikinotdeath Depends on how you look at it. 1k for Beginner definitely doesn't fit, especially, if you're active.
@@FloosWorld_AoE i mean, the best player in the world is literally telling u its begginer level. Just look at how 1k people play, its not rocket science to know they are not even intermediate.
Colors are fine after you switched them.
I like these kind of challenges, the problem is often the strategy choice by the 3 guys.
Here, they should go really aggressive, like one flank playing drush fc into maybe conqs, pocket scouts into knights, other flank MaA+towers (e.g. with poles, than you have a nice castle age spam).
Bring the aggression to Hera, keep him at his base. Then you have 3 working economies vs 1,
Maybe. The problem with something like a drush, though, is that they would do virtually no damage. The drush would arrive after Hera is already in Feudal and it wouldn't really delay him.
@@martijnbouman8874 If you play drush fc, you can drush earlier because you're only saving for feudal age afterwards. Even pre mill drush is fine here since it isn't a 1v1. You don't need to do damage. You want to buy time (he will have to vill fight or with his first scouts/archers) so that you can wall up behind. And then the next player can continue to fight at Hera's base. Again, scouts/towers won't do any damage because of Heras micro, but it is enough if the 3 players can stay healthy at home during the early game. They need to leverage their pop adavantage
BLOODLINES HERA! It's always incredible to see such switched on play, micro macro etc. and you didn't even get bloodlines smh. Gg wp 11
You only need Bloodlines if you get hit!
I would build one more tc and that would be main base near my first tc. First tc would be just fake. Hera didnt have time to explore corners and would not discover it till I fully boom.
we used to play in elementary school with our IT teacher. He always picked one of us (lucky guy) as his aly ( mostly for trade) and went 2v6 against others. We always got stomped by him superhard haha. He was always playing franks and flooded everyone with swarms of paladins, or castledroped our TCs when we were still in dark age :D I think he was enjoying being a bully :D I remember in one game, i was playing teutons and was last man standing, managed to get to imp and to elite TKs . Good thing was that our teacher refused to make anything else then palas and trebuchets so my TKs put up a good fight, i remember other guys cheering me up, it was awesome. So awesome that its over 20 years and i still remember it. :) I eventually lost because castle push but hey, moment to remember for me. I think i might beat him today tho :P
Wow
IT WAS AMAZING ! WELL PLAYED ! i just come back this game and watching you and learning something . Hello from Turkey Hera :)
The blue/red colour change actually makes it easier for me too 😅
Nice, would love to see the APM difference!
Crazy APM there! 😮
Imho, what got them was the lack of coordination and a clear strategy. I mean, they should have picked up definite roles (offense, castle boom etc) right at the start.
All they needed to do was tower rush Hera
They were not allowed to do gimmicky strats. 3 TC douche would also certainly kill him.
@@ezrahn Tower rush is not gimmicky. Hera mentioned that everything after feudal was fine.
Good stuff Hera! BTW - Towers would have slowed you down a bit. Also, if I ever play 3 v 1 against you, one of us will get Berbers so everyone can get Genitours 🙂
After getting much Wood and stones start building towers so they will protect with arrows, and you can move civilians in it so that tower will throw 5-6 arrows at ones 👍🏻 towers are best for defence!
love this content!
This is my childhood games, use to play this game, offline on my crappy computer, using the race with the elephant (Forgot the clan/race name) and i would cheat (How do you turn this on) whenever i am ganked and got angry 😆. Good ol memories
Cool to watch.
I wouldve loved to see a couple monks on Home D for cheeky eagle conversions, yknow, to add to morale destruction hahah
I would not consider 1000 elo a beginner. That's solid intermediate territory.
intermediate is way higher
advance
congratulations on 100k
i did not expect him to play this fast paced
22:25
Thanks for doing that for me Hera
If I pay $150 bucks I’m making him come after every last villager😂
Vamos Hera!
Just getting into this series on xbox playing 2 at the moment
Amazing! Respect
I love watching these games!
Buen video Hera😊
I don't hate or even care what you do with colors. But curious thinking about it, why does it make a difference for you? I suspect you are just programmed somewhere deep down that blue = you? So faster reaction maybe.
Blue is me red is enemy. I played 10000 games like this, its just how im wired at this point
Don't mind the color change
Awesome, please more like this
They needed to form an army before attacking you and attack you with bunch of fighter horses to counter your arrow horses
I like it if the enemys would have different colours
It’s not competitive at all, and the clue is, Hera’s army is just mounted archers, he didn’t use siege, monks, knights, hussars, skirms (especially Vietnamese has imp skirms.. which he didn’t use).
I am not saying that I can beat these three players, but it was obvious that Hera was chilling. WP for these guys and amazing play by Hera as always the KING of the desert.
Surprisingly they didn't add siege. Possibly a lack of resources or they just didn't think of it. They could have added towers for defense.
1000 elo is "beginner"? Ouch...
Hera What mouse do you use?
that apm should indicate how many clicks are effective. Spamming tc and creating a villager with 0 food in the bank is useless
I, for one, cannot see you in any other colour but blue :D
I often just type in the cheat codes to beat other players
What do u mean by dark age cheesing or tc drop forbidden pls ?
Sick gameplay!
Every time I see these top aoe2 players' apm
I'm reminded why I'm still low elo in Cities: Skylines
Long time player.. first time actually watching a match... Ever.. and i see im not far off from being on that level. I just gotta stop a couple bad habits... and then make a wish to make a wish foundation.. and when that doesn't work... ill start practicing more and pay off Microsoft with bitcoin to rig the game for me :) lol and when nothing works,... ill just go to bed because dreams are where its all possible
I wanna try this with some friends and they all play melee units, should I go CA then? I am 1k elo and typically go archers
I honestly don't know much about CAs haha
Any other tips for 1v2/1v3s?
CA is way harder to micro in my opinion. Also way more expensive and takes longer to mass. I'm blown away Hera could go CA against 3 players.
If they just had 1 guy go full cheese and rush with vills to mess up his eco early on they would just win 100% of the time.
He says at the beggining that there are rules against that.
They have to scout him and walk their vils across the map to do this. If they douche, maybe, but one player bringing (6?) vils to harass a woodline or berries doesn't seem like enough compensation to drop a player..
Hmm I'd love to see Hera face off against 2 1400s elo random map (not team game elo 1 v 1s elo). I don't think its possible for a pro to take that on, but who knows
Fun watching these videos. Anything less than your all is a disrespect to them. They pay the money to see you do your all against them.
1200 elo 3x vs you should be really intresting.
The key is experience. 3 EXPERIENCED 1200 ELO players, at least 200 games on team games or 1 v 1, will beat Hera. Probably pretty easily.
Maybe add another price option: 200 (or more if you think that's better) but you only get it if you win.
Would add a lot of spice!
It's hard to make a transaction where the opponent is forced to pay after losing. Many people would just apply and run away after they've lost.
@@banjolebThey just pay via PP up front and if they win they get a refund.
@@timoheinrich8763 true didn't think of that
7 players x 50 pop vs 1 player with 200 pop?
or
1 noob with 200 pop vs 1 pro with 50 pop?
Bro makes these 1000 elo players look like 500 elo
Sight unseen, if i were on their team, i would have sent the 2 scouts + eagle into your baae to deny you lumber cap and force early loom
getting motion sickness from this insane pace
19:50 how did you change the colors? I want play always with blue too 😂😂😂
alt G
Excelente video 👌
Gracias por el vídeo
can you help me to find site on internet where can i get this game seftly on my pc
3 V 1 against Hera and all players go Cumans for the Feudal age 6 x TC Drop.
These guys are like 1100 elo right ? Beginners playing for a long time ) GG
I think maximum 700 elo.
@@t.a.2202 of course more. A 700 elo doesn’t wall his berries and use hills for bonus damage.
@@LCH974 maybe 900?
I can’t get pass silver in fast castle challenge
19:50 how do you swap collors?
Nice vid
I liked the colour change. Easier to follow
Ты крут чел. Не представляю, как можно так быстро все делать. Я раз в 10 медленнее играю.
Shee. I would think hera would wreck 5 of me as a 1000 elo player.
Hera how about now you play against the best xbox players with controller and give your opinions? I feel that the xbox community is somewhat forgotten :c
best xbox player is biry, according to him he can totally lose to a 1300/1400 on pc
Would the computer even be challenging for you anymore??
How much did he say to play against him? 150 dollars each? Do they get the money back if they win
How can you set up the colours to being all Red?
Team colors! The hotkey is Alt - G
What is Dark Age Cheesing?
How does he switch colors in midgame without going to settings? Is there a hotkey for it?
yeah button in the bottom right or Alt - G