I no longer feel alone in the OCD support group. You've added some steps to this with heat shrink that I am definitely going to adopt. Thanks Ape for sharing best practice.
@Quincy Justus ....get a life. The same unrelated comment about hacking, and then this comment every time following. No one cares about your stupid post in an effort to lure people in
Okay. I finally got my S#!+ together, and started working with my power pole connectors and my Iwiss (Amazon) crimpers. The crimpers worked magnificently! But there is a little bit of a learning curve, for getting these little connectors level with each other, and in the Correct direction to the plastic housings! Well, it took me a bit, but I got it! Its okay.... Its ALL Okay! 🤔😉😃😫 And FYI: I reviewed your video, many times, to make sure I was doing it right. Thanks for the help x10!
Gearing up and planning for some future purchases and hitting up your vids to help. Also looking at changing some existing wiring. Lots to learn and learning a lot. Hope you're well brother.
I love the ring type connections. Really. Very versatile. Crimp connections were frowned upon when I was in the electrical Trade. But probably not so safe at 250vAC.. ... So for low voltage I will try this out. I need to tidy up connections . I am here too find out what power pole connection tools are used. Now have clarity. Thanks for the info.
Was that the 15 amp crimp slot, or the 30 amp slot? Maybe my crimpers are different. Mine have 15 amp at the tip end, 30 amp in the middle, and 45 amp on the inside. I love power poles. I use the same setup with heat shrink tubing and rubber boot.
@@TheSmokinApe LOL....I get it! We just started a work from home every other day routine...I tell everyone that working from home is like a diabetic working at Krispy Kreme....too many distractions.
I use a Klein 11046 at work, and one of the same style from a different brand. I find the pliers style stripper much easier to use and more reliable than the crimper style.
Can you plug-in a 45A powerpole into a 30A powerpole? In otherwords, can you mix sizes? Im not sure what size is most commonly used, but my power supply is a 35A, so I was going to use the 45A powerpole instead of the 30A, but not sure what other people have standardized on...
@TheSmokinApe I used some rubbing alcohol on the boot to help it slide. We used this for the Wrist Rocket slingshot surgical tubes to more easily slide on and more quickly evaporate. 73
😮 The video ended before the last heat shrink fit into place. Do you fit the final heat shrink over the narrow end of the rubber boot or over whole length (both the narrow and wider parts) of the rubber boot?
PP is a great idea! I've converted to PP literally all my 12V connectors in the shack, in my Radio Van, my Go Box, also all portable radios and all battery packs. And life is easy since! I can quickly change, interchange any battery to any rig, battery to charger and so on. PP's are easy to assemble as seen from this fine video. Just what's important to my opinion is to get a good quality crimper. For me , Powerwerx was also a good compromise between price and quality. 73! Linas LY2H
I know it is a bit late for recommending strippers, but I'll put this out there anyway. When you are looking at "auto" strippers, do not get the ones that have a straight blade that just cuts through half the insulation and tears it off. Those will at the very least put small nicks in the wires but usually cut a few strands off stranded wires. Instead go for the kind that has cut-outs for the different American Wire Gauge (AWG) sizes. I have Capri model 20010. and I'm very happy with them.
Yeh man that was as it should be, especially when you have the applicable female side to connect to. But here's my thing. An 48V ebattery I purchased has Anderson leads but the controller has SY60 MALE. Soooo..my question is hopefully straight forward. Is there attachable XT60/SY60 that are snap on for the Anderson power pole leads?? And where can I find them????
Where can i find the whole set i’m all the way in Haïti and i have a duracell gasless generator that uses anderson connectors but i can’t find it nowhere in my country nor i don’t have all these tools to do it myself
You had me with "I like to use heatshrink". ;) #MOARHEATSHRINK #HEATSHRINKALLTHETHINGS I was, however, deeply unsatisfied you ended the video before you finished application of the first (red) section of heatshrink (0:50, never to be seen again). Oh, the humanity! Jokes aside, super-clean job and I love to see someone else who knows where to use heatshrink!
I plan on making a dedicated battery charging cable too run from my 100 Watt solar panel too my power equipment batteries for keeping their charges up so I am using a charge controller to regulate the voltage too the batteries. I need too know what the amperage is going too my batteries so I dont have an over charging problem. Is there any need too worry about overcharging with this setup?
Greenlee Strippers are the best. I like to tin my conductors before crimping. I also like to use heat shrink, but in this case the wires are feeding the bed heater on my Lulzbot so they need to be as flexible as possible. I do heat shrink them up near the connectors, but not in the raceway.
Tinning before crimping is a bad idea, you're adding a soft filler material that will creep/flow out of the way over time and reduce the residual compression that the crimp design relies upon for a secure connection.
You should never do both. The soft tin in the solder will continue to yield hours after the crimping process is complete causing the once tightly crimped connection to become loose. 👊
Sooo i just found your video, because i just learned about these connectors, i'm just a little confused where i'd like to use them is a connection into a control box for 12V power, One question i have is are these individual connectors universal ? That is to say do two of the same shape (irrespective of color) fit together to form the male and female side of a plug ? Second question following on from the first if answer to my first question is No, then is there a "bulkhead" or "panel mount" style of this type of plug ? Thanks !
Ape, I have a question for you. I want to use my FT-991A as portable. I bought a battery and would like to buy one of those Powerwerx meter. I was wondering how would I go about putting power poles on my FT-991A power cord and is this possible? How do you determine the size of the power pole you need, is this just what fits the connector. I"m thinking I want to buy another FT-991A power cord so that I have one setup for my shack to use on the FT-991 and one power cord for portable. Your thoughts please. Thank You Ape.
@@TheSmokinApe Well, it would help many if you had sources for each of the components to make complete terminations. I have sourced other connectors and parts in other contexts and shake my head at the variation... but LEGO is the gold standard for me from childhood... so I may be expecting too much.
Not bad but too many details left out! 1. You can set the terminal into the crimper curve down without the wire inserted. Once the terminal is in place, you can then insert the wire. You can even close the crimper down JUST A BIT to help hold it in place. 2. The crimper can be laid flat on a table. This makes it easier to insert the wire. Once it is inserted, you can squeeze the crimper. Once it grips the metal, you can pick up the tool to apply more force. Lay it down with the block side down. I wondered what the purpose of that was when I first tried using it. 3. I have solar system wiring that has THICK insulation. If I do not strip enough of the insulation off the solar panel cables, the thickness does NOT allow the curve piece of the connector to mate with the retaining metal inside the housing. The insulation prevents me from inserting the connector all the way in. Wasted several pieces trying to figure this out. You may have to trim traditional insulation so that the pieces mate up. Or, buy larger connectors. 4. If you want the two housing units that make up either end of the cable to be permanently attached side by side as designed, use some super glue once you are SURE they are connecting the way they should be. There are small pins that can be inserted into the mated housing units that prevent them from sliding apart. Some APPC kits come with the pins, some do not.
@@TheSmokinApe Thanks, but after reading my comment, I sound like a bit of a jerk! "Too many details..." what is that? I should gave said "some additional ways people can use the connectors."
Man I can't get them to click into the housing. I am using 16 gauge wire and it just bends. Is there some trick to get the smaller wire options to click in the housing?
Solder. That's what I do. Just strip a bit more of the wire - don't worry, the plastic will cover it when you snap it in. The solder will draw into the connector if you heat the connector instead of the wire and it will work great!
@@TheSmokinApe I don't see the list. Happen to avoid Amazon, don't like how they treat their workers, or small businesses. So if I know who makes the boots, I can look elsewhere. Thanks for the vid, really like the heat shrink details.
???????? can you use copper wire... and... Alum wires, or will it cause a fire or short out battery my e-bike battery is alum... and my power conn is copper ..
Those are 30 amp terminals, 12AWG wire simply won't fit in the 15A terminals. Plus you used the middle die of the crimpers, that's the 30A terminal die: 15 - 30 - 45
I HATE Anderson Power Poles...I cannot figure how you get the terminal to click in TWICE...I can't get them to click in even ONCE. They consistently fall back out. I have wasted so many of these stupid terminals trying to nag one in so it actually works. I reached a point where I expect them to fail. I'm glad you can make them to work. I'd just like to know how to get this junk to do what they claim they can do. I'd love to find some other connector that I can actually work with...END OF SCREED.
FYI: If you don't own a heat gun, you can also use a hair dryer. It won't melt the shrink tube or the shielding, or Burn you hand as fast! And if I had to recommend a pair of strippers... I like Amanda and Cinnamon! They are eager to please. 👭👍🏼😉
This is the set of wire strippers that I use. I would not change them at all. Wire Cutter and Stripper, for 8-20 AWG Solid and 10-22 AWG Stranded Electrical Wire Klein Tools 11063W www.amazon.com/dp/B00BC39YFQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.haFEbZPK8RN2
@@TheSmokinApe Also, your strippers should be dedicated strippers, not that combination stripper/crimper thing. I second the Klein Tool opinion though.
I no longer feel alone in the OCD support group. You've added some steps to this with heat shrink that I am definitely going to adopt. Thanks Ape for sharing best practice.
I might have overdone it on this one 😳
not overdone at all@@TheSmokinApe
Wow...that was some serious precautions on heat shrink, sleeves, etc. Awesome heavy duty and reliable job. I like it 👍
Thanks man, glad you liked it 👍
@Quincy Justus ....get a life. The same unrelated comment about hacking, and then this comment every time following. No one cares about your stupid post in an effort to lure people in
On the edge of over engineering- but that’s how I like it!!! Good stuff, very helpful vid
Haha, thanks for watching Jim 👍
Outstanding video!! The wire strippers I use are the Katapult by Klein Tools. I got them at Home Depot.
Glad you liked it, thanks for the recommendation 👍
Now, that's how it's done! Great job, my friend.
Mike-WB2ADK
Thanks Mike 👍
I like how you provide extra support and strength to the connection.
Now I need power poles and a heat gun.👍
Power poles are super useful in ham radio as everyone has them now days.
As always First Class Workmanship
Thanks man!
Clear, concise. The way all videos should be made. Thank you.
Thanks Rob 👍
I like the way you added the heat shrink to keep the wires together and make them more rigid. Looks good too.
Thanks TEH, I don't know if it's needed or not but I do it anyway.
Love this. With the layers of heat shrink, it is so well protected and looks so clean. Excellent. (Way over the top. Just the way I like it.)
Hey Marty, glad you liked it!
Thanks for making so many great videos nailing the subjects I need.
Thanks Tony, glad you like them 👍
Very neat work
Thank you very much!
Okay. I finally got my S#!+ together, and started working with my power pole connectors and my Iwiss (Amazon) crimpers. The crimpers worked magnificently! But there is a little bit of a learning curve, for getting these little connectors level with each other, and in the Correct direction to the plastic housings! Well, it took me a bit, but I got it! Its okay.... Its ALL Okay! 🤔😉😃😫
And FYI: I reviewed your video, many times, to make sure I was doing it right. Thanks for the help x10!
Hey Chris, glad you liked the video. You will be crimping like a pro, just takes a little practice!
Try heating the rubber boot up a bit. It makes it more pliable and should slide into place easier.
Very nice, clean work. Thanks much
Good tip 👍
That heat gun from Harbor Freight now sells for $17.00
Excellent, tutorial.
Dang, glad I got it when I did...
Best presentation of it yet!
Why thank you!
Gearing up and planning for some future purchases and hitting up your vids to help. Also looking at changing some existing wiring. Lots to learn and learning a lot. Hope you're well brother.
Hey Cr0cket. It's a never ending journey of learning, good luck with wiring job 👍
I love the ring type connections. Really. Very versatile. Crimp connections were frowned upon when I was in the electrical Trade. But probably not so safe at 250vAC.. ... So for low voltage I will try this out. I need to tidy up connections . I am here too find out what power pole connection tools are used. Now have clarity. Thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful, thanks for watching Kenneth 👍
Was that the 15 amp crimp slot, or the 30 amp slot? Maybe my crimpers are different. Mine have 15 amp at the tip end, 30 amp in the middle, and 45 amp on the inside. I love power poles. I use the same setup with heat shrink tubing and rubber boot.
Another good tutorial! Really killing the uploads lately!
I’m bored out of my mind! Lol, just some stuff that I have been meaning to do 👍
@@TheSmokinApe LOL....I get it! We just started a work from home every other day routine...I tell everyone that working from home is like a diabetic working at Krispy Kreme....too many distractions.
Yeah, it’s a different mindset for sure
I use a Klein 11046 at work, and one of the same style from a different brand. I find the pliers style stripper much easier to use and more reliable than the crimper style.
Drew Knoll-Owen thanks for the heads up 👍
Can you plug-in a 45A powerpole into a 30A powerpole? In otherwords, can you mix sizes? Im not sure what size is most commonly used, but my power supply is a 35A, so I was going to use the 45A powerpole instead of the 30A, but not sure what other people have standardized on...
Yeah, you can mix them. The difference is on the side where you connect the wires 👍
You made it look really easy♡♡♡
Thank you :)
🤜🏻👍🤛🏻
Glad it was helpful Aname 👍
Apply a little bit of silicon polish to the heat shrink, will make sliding the boot on easier.
Not a bad idea 👍
@TheSmokinApe I used some rubbing alcohol on the boot to help it slide. We used this for the Wrist Rocket slingshot surgical tubes to more easily slide on and more quickly evaporate. 73
😮 The video ended before the last heat shrink fit into place. Do you fit the final heat shrink over the narrow end of the rubber boot or over whole length (both the narrow and wider parts) of the rubber boot?
I just put the rubber boot on top of the shrink 👍
Very well paced video. If I might be so bold: way more light when showing close-ups for “spoon down” inside PP outer part.
Thanks for the feedback and for watching carpballet.
PP is a great idea! I've converted to PP literally all my 12V connectors in the shack, in my Radio Van, my Go Box, also all portable radios and all battery packs. And life is easy since! I can quickly change, interchange any battery to any rig, battery to charger and so on. PP's are easy to assemble as seen from this fine video. Just what's important to my opinion is to get a good quality crimper. For me , Powerwerx was also a good compromise between price and quality. 73! Linas LY2H
I pretty much PP everything, you point about a good crimper is spot on.
It appears that I don’t have to use a proprietary “Powerpole crimper” but could use any appropriately sized crimper, yes?
I only use the correct crimps, everyone I’ve seen and it’s been many, that used an alternative method has had problems
I know it is a bit late for recommending strippers, but I'll put this out there anyway. When you are looking at "auto" strippers, do not get the ones that have a straight blade that just cuts through half the insulation and tears it off. Those will at the very least put small nicks in the wires but usually cut a few strands off stranded wires. Instead go for the kind that has cut-outs for the different American Wire Gauge (AWG) sizes. I have Capri model 20010. and I'm very happy with them.
Thanks Slick, I’ll. Check it out 👍
This might be an unnecessary question, but is a crimping tool absolutely necessary to add power poles to wire?
Yes. Everyone I’ve seen or know who tried it without the crimper has gotten the crimper 👍
Where can I get the black preformed sleeve that fits over the wire and the 2 connectors?
Amazon, Power Pole Boot Cover
Yeh man that was as it should be, especially when you have the applicable female side to connect to. But here's my thing. An 48V ebattery I purchased has Anderson leads but the controller has SY60 MALE. Soooo..my question is hopefully straight forward. Is there attachable XT60/SY60 that are snap on for the Anderson power pole leads?? And where can I find them????
Where can i find the whole set i’m all the way in Haïti and i have a duracell gasless generator that uses anderson connectors but i can’t find it nowhere in my country nor i don’t have all these tools to do it myself
powerwerx.com/
You had me with "I like to use heatshrink". ;) #MOARHEATSHRINK #HEATSHRINKALLTHETHINGS
I was, however, deeply unsatisfied you ended the video before you finished application of the first (red) section of heatshrink (0:50, never to be seen again). Oh, the humanity!
Jokes aside, super-clean job and I love to see someone else who knows where to use heatshrink!
Haha, glad you liked the video!
I plan on making a dedicated battery charging cable too run from my 100 Watt solar panel too my power equipment batteries for keeping their charges up so I am using a charge controller to regulate the voltage too the batteries. I need too know what the amperage is going too my batteries so I dont have an over charging problem. Is there any need too worry about overcharging with this setup?
What about the red heat shrink - you didn't do anything with that one, it is just floating?
I shrank it 👍
Where to you purchase your heat shrink? Thank you for your help and time.
Pretty sure this is what I used: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MW27JNZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
Greenlee Strippers are the best. I like to tin my conductors before crimping. I also like to use heat shrink, but in this case the wires are feeding the bed heater on my Lulzbot so they need to be as flexible as possible. I do heat shrink them up near the connectors, but not in the raceway.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated 👍
Tinning before crimping is a bad idea, you're adding a soft filler material that will creep/flow out of the way over time and reduce the residual compression that the crimp design relies upon for a secure connection.
You should never do both.
The soft tin in the solder will continue to yield hours after the crimping process is complete causing the once tightly crimped connection to become loose. 👊
And the first red heat shrink tubing?
Ya, I would say this is a bit of an over kill!!! Thats why I made mine the same way!👍 TYVM SA!! 🖖
Haha, glad you liked it and thanks for watching 👍
Where can i find the mounted anderson connector? Asking all the way from Haïti
powerwerx.com/
Sooo i just found your video, because i just learned about these connectors, i'm just a little confused where i'd like to use them is a connection into a control box for 12V power, One question i have is are these individual connectors universal ? That is to say do two of the same shape (irrespective of color) fit together to form the male and female side of a plug ? Second question following on from the first if answer to my first question is No, then is there a "bulkhead" or "panel mount" style of this type of plug ? Thanks !
Can Powerpoles be used in automotive applications, say, under the hood?
I’m sure but make sure that are rated for the specification
Ape, I have a question for you. I want to use my FT-991A as portable. I bought a battery and would like to buy one of those Powerwerx meter. I was wondering how would I go about putting power poles on my FT-991A power cord and is this possible? How do you determine the size of the power pole you need, is this just what fits the connector. I"m thinking I want to buy another FT-991A power cord so that I have one setup for my shack to use on the FT-991 and one power cord for portable. Your thoughts please. Thank You Ape.
I'd get another cord with the molex connects and add power poles or cut the one you have short and power pole that 👍
Where do you get the rubber boots for the Anderson poles??
Amazon, just search for popper pole boots 👍
Did you ever get a new wire stripper? Harbor Freight has some decent stuff,
Hey Alvin, I did get a few.
Superb job. Do you have an updated parts list on amazon? Followed the link but didn't see the collection for your masterful way of doing Powerpoles.
Hey Aimsport, glad you liked the video. Let me know what you are looking for and I will post the link in the description.
@@TheSmokinApe Well, it would help many if you had sources for each of the components to make complete terminations. I have sourced other connectors and parts in other contexts and shake my head at the variation... but LEGO is the gold standard for me from childhood... so I may be expecting too much.
Not bad but too many details left out!
1. You can set the terminal into the crimper curve down without the wire inserted. Once the terminal is in place, you can then insert the wire. You can even close the crimper down JUST A BIT to help hold it in place.
2. The crimper can be laid flat on a table. This makes it easier to insert the wire. Once it is inserted, you can squeeze the crimper. Once it grips the metal, you can pick up the tool to apply more force. Lay it down with the block side down. I wondered what the purpose of that was when I first tried using it.
3. I have solar system wiring that has THICK insulation. If I do not strip enough of the insulation off the solar panel cables, the thickness does NOT allow the curve piece of the connector to mate with the retaining metal inside the housing. The insulation prevents me from inserting the connector all the way in. Wasted several pieces trying to figure this out. You may have to trim traditional insulation so that the pieces mate up. Or, buy larger connectors.
4. If you want the two housing units that make up either end of the cable to be permanently attached side by side as designed, use some super glue once you are SURE they are connecting the way they should be.
There are small pins that can be inserted into the mated housing units that prevent them from sliding apart. Some APPC kits come with the pins, some do not.
Great info, thanks for sharing 👍
@@TheSmokinApe Thanks, but after reading my comment, I sound like a bit of a jerk! "Too many details..." what is that? I should gave said "some additional ways people can use the connectors."
Nice video. I wonder if I could plug powerpole to sb50 ?
Not familiar with the sb50
Hey can you do the same for Anderson 3 pole power connector?
You can fit 3 together
Man I can't get them to click into the housing. I am using 16 gauge wire and it just bends. Is there some trick to get the smaller wire options to click in the housing?
I use a very small flathead screwdriver to help push them in, good luck!
If we don't have a powerpole crimper what is the next best option? Pliers?
I’ve seen many try but never get it right without the crimper.
Solder. That's what I do. Just strip a bit more of the wire - don't worry, the plastic will cover it when you snap it in. The solder will draw into the connector if you heat the connector instead of the wire and it will work great!
can not find the booth. please expand on it more, thanks.
You could put some heat shrink over the top of the boot too…. ;)
lol, I suppose I could 👍
Awesome good idea
Thanks UC!
Awesome! Where do you get your power poles, wire, and boots?
I get them all of Amazon, I have link for most stuff listed below. Thanks for watching!
@@TheSmokinApe I don't see the list. Happen to avoid Amazon, don't like how they treat their workers, or small businesses. So if I know who makes the boots, I can look elsewhere. Thanks for the vid, really like the heat shrink details.
???????? can you use copper wire... and... Alum wires, or will it cause a fire or short out battery my e-bike battery is alum... and my power conn is copper ..
You just need to make sure your wire is rated for you power requirements 👍
No continuity test?
XT60's and a Bic lighter...Love your videos. Best Regards.
Haha, thanks Tony 👍
Thanks.
You're welcome
Nice!
Thanks Ethan 👍
Highest quality power pole fabrication on youtube.
Lol, thanks man 👍
Those are 30 amp terminals, 12AWG wire simply won't fit in the 15A terminals. Plus you used the middle die of the crimpers, that's the 30A terminal die: 15 - 30 - 45
Thanks Tux
I HATE Anderson Power Poles...I cannot figure how you get the terminal to click in TWICE...I can't get them to click in even ONCE. They consistently fall back out. I have wasted so many of these stupid terminals trying to nag one in so it actually works. I reached a point where I expect them to fail. I'm glad you can make them to work. I'd just like to know how to get this junk to do what they claim they can do. I'd love to find some other connector that I can actually work with...END OF SCREED.
Check out xt30 or xt60 connectors, I actually like them better but the Anderson’s are what everyone uses 👍
anyway to make these connectors more water proof?
Not that I am aware of 🤔
No one has a video to install the little pins to keep the plugs together.
I don’t use them 👍
@@TheSmokinApe I don't either accept for building an Anderson terminal block. The pins hold the plugs into the terminal block.
Makes sense 👍
That's a lot of heat shrink.......😅😂😮
It’s cheap
FYI: If you don't own a heat gun, you can also use a hair dryer. It won't melt the shrink tube or the shielding, or Burn you hand as fast!
And if I had to recommend a pair of strippers... I like Amanda and Cinnamon! They are eager to please. 👭👍🏼😉
LOL, thanks for watching Chris!
This is the set of wire strippers that I use. I would not change them at all. Wire Cutter and Stripper, for 8-20 AWG Solid and 10-22 AWG Stranded Electrical Wire Klein Tools 11063W www.amazon.com/dp/B00BC39YFQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.haFEbZPK8RN2
Thanks for the recommendation 👍
KLEIN KATAPULT STRIPPERS
Thanks Gabe 👍
For strippers, like all electrical tools, Klein Tools are the best.
Folks keep telling me that, thanks for the info and watching 👍
@@TheSmokinApe Also, your strippers should be dedicated strippers, not that combination stripper/crimper thing. I second the Klein Tool opinion though.
@@SuperUncleRyan Awesome, thanks man 👍
Great video Ape Man! I just posted a video about the wire strippers you need!
Thanks man 👍
Strippers? i know a few... from my DJ days...
T-Strippers are your best bet.
Thanks man 👍
Too focused on heat shrink and tidyness rather than the real hard part which is how to get the plugs in and their orientation.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
Klein Stripper
get some IRWIN VISE-GRIP Self-Adjusting Wire Stripper (you tube it), they are the best you can get and they will last you a life time.
I will check them out, thanks Ivan 👍
Klein 12055 best strippers around
Thanks for the heads up 👍
That's a lot of hardware to remove when the Anderson connector fails...
lol, that's pretty funny!
Klein makes an awesome stripper.
Thanks for the heads up👍
Never buy cheap powerpolls. They are so bad.
Yeah, they can be terrible
Teeth were the original strippers.
Haha