Traded my 2019 TRD Off Road Premium KDSS unit and purchased a 2024 TRD Pro Underground at MSRP a week ago. Best thing about this purchase was that I only lost $2,900 on the 2019 TRD Off Road from what I purchased it for back in 2019. Great resale. The dealer is actually selling it for more than I originally purchased it for. Love the Pro, the ride is amazing and I wanted the last year of the 5th gen. She was built June 28th and arrived at the dealership on Sept 5th. Stoked
Bought a new 2024 4Runner off road premium in underground for $45,200 - $5,000 under MSRP. I feel like I got a deal and plan to keep it a very long time.
Just bought a 2024 4Runner TRD ORP for discount under MSRP. I keep cars a long time-replaced my 2011 MDX, which was also a great vehicle. I hope to keep the 4Runner for 20 years if possible. I love the V6, solid build quality and simplicity of the electronics/infotainment. It has everything you’d want and nothing you don’t.
Excellent video! A local Toyota dealer had been calling me and texting me every day to trade in my 2019 Toyota TRD Off Road. I flat out told him, when Toyota goes back to using a real engine I would think about it.
I've been looking at some used 4 Runners to replace this lemon 22 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. I've learned my lesson and now back to looking at cars again.😭
Had a 2000 4 Runner Limited that I absolutely loved. Drove it until our burgeoning family outgrew it. Went to an ‘04 Sequoia, put 175k on it & bought a ‘16 LC(still have), and added a ‘21 Platinum Tundra 2 months ago and a ‘23 Rav for my college bound daughter. Also retained my ‘20 LS500 FSport which replaced my ‘08 LS 460 that was, regrettably, totaled. All got started w/ my ‘99 GS350😊. Guess I’m solidly a Toyota guy, and I’ve never looked back. Will prob add another Rav to the fleet next year when my youngest daughter goes to college. I do still have my Dad’s 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (125k miles, garaged) & my G-father’s ‘63 GMC, 4-on-the-floor, 3/4t, 4x4 w/ a 305 big-bore Hercules V6 engine w/ 77k original miles on it, also garaged (they’re both deceased now). Short way of saying, I have car issues.😂
As someone who has worked for Toyota for the last 13+ years, I recently purchased my 2024 TRD PRO Runner in Midnight Black (had it ceramic coated immediately lol). These things will end up like the FJ...forever holding their value and being sought after. Buy one while you can as I can assure you allocations are starting to run out.
Although maybe for the PRO trim in certain colors, there were alot more 5th gen 4runners sold than FJ cruisers. Its going to be interesting to see how it plays out as the years pass after end of production.
@@joetaravella13 I’d like to think so since I own one, but the FJ was only in production for 8 years and less common than the 4runner during that time. I feel like I see tons of 4Runners here in Utah, while FJs, while still out there, are becoming more rare. Will take a while before 5th gen 4Runners become rare, imho.
I had a 22 Tacoma but found the interior is too small for my liking but didn’t want to give up such a nice vehicle, phone a few dealers and found a 24 4Runner pro in Terra is coming and still available , the dealer offered me more money than MSRP I paid for the Tacoma (it has a TRD lift and very low mileage) , just picked up the gorgeous 4Runner a few days ago, can’t be more pleased. Thanks Untamed for the advice!😊🎉
I saw an article that pitted 8 cyl 4 Runner against the 6 and in a race the 8 won by 1/10 of a second. Care care nut recommends the 6 because 8 had a timing belt and other issues.
I totally agree, I bought a 2019 4Runner TRD PRO with key ignition and NO Issues, although here in California Dealers were markin up the TRD PRO $5,000 to $10,000, the TRD PRO was hard to get because dealers were ordering only a few at a time, very happy with mine.
Got a 2015 4Runner TRD pro in 2018 with 34K miles on it. I’ve lifted it, added a roof rack, bigger tires, and I really enjoy the thing. 85K miles on it now, I’m just wondering realistically how many years I can get out of it. I put about 8K miles a year on it. If it goes over 200K miles, that’s still over a dozen years away.
Nice neighborhood! Perfect timing on daylight in the background. As the bright reflections on the homes began to fade, you could really see the beauty in these two vehicles.
I couldn’t find a used 4Runner for less than the price of a brand new one, I’m stoked for the new one plus all the safety features - to me it’s 100% worth it - the engine will be better than most predict as the problems with other have not been due to the engineering but bad parts supplier which Toyota cut ties with immediately after
Ehh its still built in the same plant by the same people. I would give it a couple of years before getting into one but it’ll likely be as if not better than the 5th gen in terms of long term reliability
@@UntamedMotors Yeah im sure people thought the same thing when they transitioned from the 4th gen v8 to the 5th gen v6 and it turned out to be even better. The 4Runner is the Tahara plant’s bread and butter. The Japanese are too proud to let the reputation of their legendary 4runner go down the drain.
@@Troystoy yeah im with you man I prefer the true and tried motors all day. Ive driven the 2.4 turbo pretty extensively and I’ll be honest and say that it kicks ass man. I’m personally waiting at least 5 years before jumping into one but it’s a beastly engine
I got the SR5 2023 with 6 miles on it. did my own TRD upgrades skid plate cold air intake air filter oil cap radiator cap shifter knob next is wheels also put 10 ply E rated tires power stop Z36 tow package and I still don't have 50 grand in it not with taxes, fees, tags and upgrades and putting bilstein 1.5 in lift rear springs for hauling a camper and giving it less squat
You’re right, but that new hybrid motor has some major power and is the only reason to upgrade. I drove the new Land Cruiser and the power/torque are awesome. If you’re thinking of getting a 2024 4Runner, get it with a dealer installed Magnuson supercharger, or wait till 2026 to get the new gen.
@@UntamedMotors my 2007 Silverado crew cab 121k miles gets 14 city or hwy. No matter what. 🤣 MPG isn't a concern when I buy it for working. Can't pull trailers with a Prius. 🤣
I bought a new 2023 TRD ORP with KDSS a year ago to savour the 5th Gen features. 95% of my driving is in town and the KDSS provides a good ride in my opinion.
Since he mentioned it, from what complaints & data I could gather from Landcruiser forum pages, all of these transmission failures are directly related to people overloading when towing, & driving 70 mph everywhere they go. Not gonna defend Toyota's drop in quality, but don't be a moron with a new car. Drive it normal, use eco mode to maximize fuel economy, don't overload for towing. And who gets a midsize vehicle to tow anyway?! Wanna tow shit? GET A DIESEL TRUCK!
My wife has a '23 SR5, and I just picked up a '17 SR5 with 89K miles on it for a really good deal. I will keep driving my '98, but what this guy is saying is spot on... I could not pass up that '17 while it was out in the wild because I am noticing that they get snatched up very quick these days.
I bought a 4 Runner recently but traded it in. Getting on the highway with it was scary, it just has no power at all and literally almost got run off the road by truck drivers. I'm sure it's a great vehicle and will last a long time but I need something with more power. I should've taken it on the highway when I took the test drive instead of just around town. Another thing that drove me crazy was the shimmy I had when I got up to around 60 to 70 mph. I brought it back to the dealers but the shimmy was still there.
Bought a 2024 TRD offroad premium in ice cap and predator package back in June and love my decision...it's my second gen 5. I'm also craving a Ford Ranger Raptor but have never owned a domestic vechicle...for $57k it's a lot of bang for the buck!
@@UntamedMotors thanks. Appreciate your videos and how you give honest opinions. I feel other UA-camrs have started like your channel but morphed into Toyota commercials. Keep up the great work.
It's been delayed till next year, we don't know how they are going to price it. More likely below the Land Cruiser especially if the Tacoma is not selling well.
I own a 2006 Toyota 4Runner Limited V8 4WD purchased new in 2006 currently with 57K+ miles... it's unmodified except for the tires which I replaced with Geolander A/T G015 which made a huge difference (from the original H/T tires) in both rain and especially snow!! This is the fourth 4Runner I've owned (an '86, '88, and '94) and imho it's perfect... acceleration is not only outstanding but the V8 and its excellent transmission makes it SO smooth to pass, reach the necessary speed to merge into a busy interstate, or climb a long interstate hill without slowing down... a little known feature is the ability to plug your iPhone into the jack (3.2 mm) inside the armrest on the lower right and all Apple music and podcast's can be played through the incredible JBL Limited sound system. There's is no backup camera so I have to drive with care using my mirrors and caution and no lane assist, etc... I basically, have to drive my 4Runner using my brain. You (Untamed Motors content providers) are absolutely correct when it comes to purchasing a 4Runner that may not be the newest product Toyota delivers to dealers... when the 4th Gen came out I waited until 2006 to purchase, then it was obvious inside and out that Toyota has resolved all the 4th Gen problems... I've never had my 2006 in for anything other than preventive maintenance (a turn signal light bulb did go out recently and it was replaced)... despite being an 18 year old vehicle, there are no squeaks, rattles, or any mechanical or interior switch problems -- or -- no recalls, too! Would I like a back-up camera added to my 4Runner?? idk, maybe... I really like the 6-disc changer that's there... going on a long trip I can check an audio book out from the library (for free) and load it up, drive away, and listen to a compelling story making the whole trip go so fast... a 4Runner is a great purchase (I don't get any money for saying this)... my comment is based solely on my experience to date...
@Untamed my 2024 TRD ORP in Underground is due by the end of the month. The wait is killing me. I am gifting it to my wife and hope she will able to drive it for 25 years. Thanks for all your do.
Already done!! Just traded in my 2017 runner for an upgraded 24 trd OR. Got a great price on my 2017. Now my fleet consists of my 21 trd pro lunar rock tundra, 24 underground trd OR, and my baby - Yamaha grizzly 700 ATV
As always appreciate the summary...agree with your position...quality is decreasing, complexity is increasing and prices (aka value) is not where it needs to be. I think Toyota will struggle in the next couple of years unless they shift their mindset.
Last month (August) bought a 2024 Limited because I did not want the redesigned electrified 2025 4Runner. I love it with off road capabilities! Reliability was very important for my choice when buying this ride,.
Bought a used 2021 4Runner for 31K it's a base model SR5 with no options and I absolutely love it, simple reliable affordable everything the new 4Runner (really all new Toyota trucks) are not anymore and I will drive it forever.
A while ago, I upgraded from a 2017 5th gen to a 2022 ORP. I've been busy upgrading it eversince. The truck is just that good and worth every penny. For me KDSS was a must, especially since my previous TRD Pro lacked this feature. Everything else I upgraded to TRD Pro spects. The lack of KDSS with the 6th gen is a deal killer for me. The crappy powertrain and cheap looking interior leaves little to desire.
Would it have been too difficult for Toyota to introduce change gradually? I wished I had just stomached the payments on a 4Runner instead of buying the RAV4. All these changes with zero fallback options make returning to Ford a little more tempting. We can say that "time will tell" all day, but I still look at those Tundras left on lots as a prime example of what will soon happen to everything else. I enjoy your content, Untamed! Great info all day long!
I paid 69K CDN for a 2024 4 Runner Terra TRD Pro...feels like a bargain based on what the 2025 will cost. Your videos were instrumental in helping me make my choice. Thank you.
@@JattAnmoli That was the MSRP and no dealer fee or add ons. The CDN cars come with the rock crawlers as well. That price includes all delivery and dealer fees but not taxes...13% in Ontario. I dealt with Erin Mills Toyota.
@@rachelgreen1368 Those are very nice cars but a tad of a headache once they are out of warranty. I have a Merc and 3 911's and am well aware of what cars cost. The 4 Runner is worth every penny and is, at that price, a bargain.
i have been trying to find a new trd pro at this time but no car dealers have them available or expect any of them soon. I guess a TRD offroad Premium has to do it :) thanks for the video
I was at my local Toyota lot this week sat in the new Land cruiser, tundra, and Sequoia. I'm just not a fan of all the new nanny controls and fanciness inside. My tundra and I were out getting dirty this weekend mountain biking that's what a truck is for not to looking fancy, I guess I'm just not the buyer for the Toyota's new vision is looking for, they want more of the fake outdoors person
I worked for a major car manufacturer for over 17 years, and I can tell you anytime a NEW MODEL comes out there WILL be problems because ALL the processes have changed, and you have less than one minute to do your job, so it takes at least one year for it to start to settle in on how the processes go and the workers REALLY start knowing how to perform their process and they follow the operational standards per operational manual. I purchased a 2023 SR5 4 RUNNER do all the maintenance, RED for ROLL TIDE!!
@@timalan7406 You got that right. We can't tackle, pass, run the ball, we have a quarterback that should be a linebacker, how do you have a player WIDE open and throw the ball almost into the stands, GO BUCKS.
I just dumped my toyota stock at a loss because I'm disgusted with they have done with the entire fleet. How do you go from one of the best, to total crap?? MANAGEMENT STUPIDITY. I'll keep my '19 4Runner SR5 Premium, thank you.
Much better power and gas mileage on the 4 cylinder turbo engine compared to my old V6 model 4Runner, I’m sure I’ll get high mileage on my turbo Ive been using turbo engines at my job for years and most easily get over 300 thousand miles My old v6 struggles up hills and and 4 banger turbo goes up without a struggle
Inflation is killing everything. I saw a 2024 4Runner SR5 for 52k just 3 days ago. I paid 40k back in 2017 for an Off-road Premium with KDSS, moonroof, and sliding rear cargo tray. Piano black trim on the 25’s will immediately get pinstriped. Not sure what they were thinking.
Will drive my fifth GEN to the wheels fall off, I don’t think they’re going to fall off. Lol. I looked at the new Land Cruiser this weekend, if I was going to buy something, it would probably be the GX 550
Got a 2023 base TRD OffRoad 4runner with KDSS brand new in 2022 for 46k out the door. Didnt like all the bells and whistles from the premium and love the cloth. I feel i got a good value but i drive 1900 miles a month and want to see it at 300k.
I bought a 2023 TRD Pro 4R in Solar Octane in June. It's not like me to buy a bright orange vehicle but the 4Runner looks so good in that color. I've driven German SUV's for a long time and they make great cars, but the problems start stacking up around 50k miles. I'm sick of it. I guess now that I'm older I'm ready to just have a car for years that I can count on. It's got Apple car play and a/c, and it goes anywhere. What more do you need?
9/18/24 - Your vid is excellent 1. Highlight the exorbitant cost 2. Turbo No Way for Now 3. Quality lackluster Yea … No thanks to 2025 4Runner Bring back the undisputed quality 2000 - 2004 I’ll wait til 2030-40 Maybe just then Toyota will get it righ Once again
I knew this was coming bought a new off road pro 2023 for msrp only have 2800 miles on it bought it before i needed it getting ready to start daily driving it daily.
Historically Toyota is known for its Kaizan philosophy; which served them well. IMO, they did not practice that philosophy when going from Gen 5 to Gen 6 4 Runners resulting in questionable quality products.
Great reasons…I just can’t justify modern day prices with 15 year old Tech and design. 15 years of 4Runner is ubiquitous…everyone and their grandmas have one.
I’m deciding on whether or not to get this car but I don’t do any off-roading and it’s a gas guzzler. Also acceleration sucks. Please convince me to buy one
It’s just offers a raw, visceral driving feel… a feeling that’s lost on most new vehicles. The V8 offers a lot of drama to the driving experience. Nothing is more reliable either. 👌 Resale will remain high for the foreseeable future.
Naturally aspirated 280 hp V6. Throttle by wire causes a delay in throttle response. Pedal commander fixes that. It ain't a sports car but I never have a problem getting on the highway and I live in a congested high volume area. It's a truck, go buy a Hemi Durango or Jeep pos if fast is what u need. Lol!
Man I live in Vegas been trying to get a TRD Pro 4 runner these last couple months but dealerships out here are charging $20000 over msrp if I lose out I’m just going to look for 2021 Trd pro tundra instead
People are mistakenly thinking that the 2025 4Runner is going to get significantly improved MPG. Think again. The 4 cylinder Turbo is not about improved MPG. It has to do with meeting mandated emission standards. I traded in a 2023 Subaru Outback for my 2024 SR5 2 WD. The Outback was averaging 19 MPG in city only driving. My 4Runner is averaging about the same.
Put me on the bandwagon, bought a 2024 4Runner, and I think people are getting decent prices because the dealers nationwide are in a must sell position after all the bad press on their turbo trucks and with lots full.
Bought a new 2024 here in GA for $47,200 off road premium Barcelona red- $4300 under with TRD wheels sunroof and premium service package. I searched nation wide for 8 months and love this thing!
Even with better gas mileage the 2025 may never even pay off the price difference, no less the depreciation and worry factor about transmission issues. I was looking at the new Taco's and 4Runners but for the kind of money they want, I'm now looking at totally restored early 70's Bronco's - way more cool factor and will likely hold value or increase! Plus I can get parts and work on it myself!
This a pretty smart way to teach all of us not to be fools with the car industry ! Thank you for not been a generic UA-camr car salesmen 👍🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
as someone currently shopping 4Runners - I really appreciate these insights - Thanks!
Traded my 2019 TRD Off Road Premium KDSS unit and purchased a 2024 TRD Pro Underground at MSRP a week ago. Best thing about this purchase was that I only lost $2,900 on the 2019 TRD Off Road from what I purchased it for back in 2019. Great resale. The dealer is actually selling it for more than I originally purchased it for. Love the Pro, the ride is amazing and I wanted the last year of the 5th gen. She was built June 28th and arrived at the dealership on Sept 5th. Stoked
Hats awesome to hear! Congrats brother! You got the best color too (in my very biased opinion of course lol). 🙌
Sold my 2013 forester in 2023, and only lost $10k from the price I paid new
You traded it in and only lost $2900 including all the taxes and fees you paid when you bought it new 5 years ago?
@Monkeyseemonkey79 prob went from 0% apr to 8+% too
@@alh5470 little more inspiration to pay it off sooner! 😉
I’m still completely in love with my 2019. Just about to pass 100k miles and looking forward to putting a few 100k more!
Bought a new 2024 4Runner off road premium in underground for $45,200 - $5,000 under MSRP. I feel like I got a deal and plan to keep it a very long time.
where??
@@kingloo6407 Marion Toyota in southern Illinois.
Would NEVER consider spending $45,000 on a vehicle. I would spend no more than 30 to 35 grand on a car. Toyota Camry LE would be the vehicle for me.
@@josephkelleher8820congrats? Idk where you were going with this lmao
You got an excellent deal! Congrats man!
Just bought a 2024 4Runner TRD ORP for discount under MSRP. I keep cars a long time-replaced my 2011 MDX, which was also a great vehicle. I hope to keep the 4Runner for 20 years if possible. I love the V6, solid build quality and simplicity of the electronics/infotainment. It has everything you’d want and nothing you don’t.
Excellent video! A local Toyota dealer had been calling me and texting me every day to trade in my 2019 Toyota TRD Off Road. I flat out told him, when Toyota goes back to using a real engine I would think about it.
Don't think that will ever happen. EPA is making it harder for all manufacturers to keep increasing the MPG on their fleet on average every year.
I could not agree with you more! I picked up a 2024 TRD Pro for all the reasons you mentioned here.
Awesome man! Congrats! You won’t regret it. =]
I've been looking at some used 4 Runners to replace this lemon 22 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk. I've learned my lesson and now back to looking at cars again.😭
Good video. So happy I bought a 2023 4-Runner with leatherette seats for $43,000 in December 2023.
@@jeffreyg4626 Thanks brother, good call on snagging that 23 👌
Had a 2000 4 Runner Limited that I absolutely loved. Drove it until our burgeoning family outgrew it. Went to an ‘04 Sequoia, put 175k on it & bought a ‘16 LC(still have), and added a ‘21 Platinum Tundra 2 months ago and a ‘23 Rav for my college bound daughter. Also retained my ‘20 LS500 FSport which replaced my ‘08 LS 460 that was, regrettably, totaled. All got started w/ my ‘99 GS350😊. Guess I’m solidly a Toyota guy, and I’ve never looked back. Will prob add another Rav to the fleet next year when my youngest daughter goes to college. I do still have my Dad’s 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (125k miles, garaged) & my G-father’s ‘63 GMC, 4-on-the-floor, 3/4t, 4x4 w/ a 305 big-bore Hercules V6 engine w/ 77k original miles on it, also garaged (they’re both deceased now). Short way of saying, I have car issues.😂
As someone who has worked for Toyota for the last 13+ years, I recently purchased my 2024 TRD PRO Runner in Midnight Black (had it ceramic coated immediately lol). These things will end up like the FJ...forever holding their value and being sought after. Buy one while you can as I can assure you allocations are starting to run out.
Thanks for sharing that man. Great insight coming from someone who has worked for Toyota for so long. Appreciate it! Couldn’t agree more. =]
Although maybe for the PRO trim in certain colors, there were alot more 5th gen 4runners sold than FJ cruisers. Its going to be interesting to see how it plays out as the years pass after end of production.
@@joetaravella13 I’d like to think so since I own one, but the FJ was only in production for 8 years and less common than the 4runner during that time. I feel like I see tons of 4Runners here in Utah, while FJs, while still out there, are becoming more rare. Will take a while before 5th gen 4Runners become rare, imho.
We were lucky to put a deposit down, a couple of days ago, on a TRD Pro 4 Runner that still at port. They are going quick!
I had a 22 Tacoma but found the interior is too small for my liking but didn’t want to give up such a nice vehicle, phone a few dealers and found a 24 4Runner pro in Terra is coming and still available , the dealer offered me more money than MSRP I paid for the Tacoma (it has a TRD lift and very low mileage) , just picked up the gorgeous 4Runner a few days ago, can’t be more pleased. Thanks Untamed for the advice!😊🎉
Great video. Glad I bought my 2024 4Runner Limited last month 🚙
Just broke 2500 miles on my 2024 SR5 Premium. Loving every mile so far.
I just sold my 2005 4runner sport with 365,000 miles on it
Original engine and transmission no problems
No leaks
Get the 4.0 V6 while you can
Oh wow that’s incredible 🙌
Amen to that!
I saw an article that pitted 8 cyl 4 Runner against the 6 and in a race the 8 won by 1/10 of a second. Care care nut recommends the 6 because 8 had a timing belt and other issues.
I totally agree, I bought a 2019 4Runner TRD PRO with key ignition and NO Issues, although here in California Dealers were markin up the TRD PRO $5,000 to $10,000, the TRD PRO was hard to get because dealers were ordering only a few at a time, very happy with mine.
Got a 2015 4Runner TRD pro in 2018 with 34K miles on it. I’ve lifted it, added a roof rack, bigger tires, and I really enjoy the thing. 85K miles on it now, I’m just wondering realistically how many years I can get out of it. I put about 8K miles a year on it. If it goes over 200K miles, that’s still over a dozen years away.
I’ve seen 3rd gen 4runners with 400-500k easy. We have a 24 pro and a 02. The 02 has 218k on it and runs perfect.
@@mr.george9886 wow, that’s incredible. Just on regular maintenance?
@@senhorbaker yes,
Nice neighborhood! Perfect timing on daylight in the background.
As the bright reflections on the homes began to fade, you could
really see the beauty in these two vehicles.
Thanks brother. Much appreciated!
Drove my buddies new 24. Such a well built car
@@TXchadTX yes and no. They are prone to rust, including the tailgate/hatch.
@@Monkeyseemonkey79 not in tx
Just purchased a 2024 4Runner TRD Off Road in Solar Octane Red and so glad I did!
Nice!! Congratulations man!
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Solar Octane is orange (great color)- welcome to the club!
I couldn’t find a used 4Runner for less than the price of a brand new one, I’m stoked for the new one plus all the safety features - to me it’s 100% worth it - the engine will be better than most predict as the problems with other have not been due to the engineering but bad parts supplier which Toyota cut ties with immediately after
Glad I got my 24 4Runner pro when I did …the 6th gen is gonna need a few years but I just don’t see it being as reliable as the 5th gen imo period !
Ehh its still built in the same plant by the same people. I would give it a couple of years before getting into one but it’ll likely be as if not better than the 5th gen in terms of long term reliability
You got it at the best time. Good call man! Yeah I’d give this new 6th gen at least a couple years to iron out the kinks. 👌
@@UntamedMotors Yeah im sure people thought the same thing when they transitioned from the 4th gen v8 to the 5th gen v6 and it turned out to be even better. The 4Runner is the Tahara plant’s bread and butter. The Japanese are too proud to let the reputation of their legendary 4runner go down the drain.
@@koehh4652 I’m just not a turbo fan jmo!
@@Troystoy yeah im with you man I prefer the true and tried motors all day. Ive driven the 2.4 turbo pretty extensively and I’ll be honest and say that it kicks ass man. I’m personally waiting at least 5 years before jumping into one but it’s a beastly engine
Got 2024 Limited 4Runner recently and just love it. Has everything on it too. 20 inch whiles has it driving smoothest plus its 4x4
I got the SR5 2023 with 6 miles on it.
did my own TRD upgrades
skid plate
cold air intake
air filter
oil cap
radiator cap
shifter knob
next is wheels
also put 10 ply E rated tires
power stop Z36 tow package
and I still don't have 50 grand in it not with taxes, fees, tags and upgrades
and putting bilstein 1.5 in lift rear springs for hauling a camper and giving it less squat
I just bought the 2024 Toyota forerunner Trd off-road premium and I’m really happy with it. Thanks. I’ve been watching your video for a while.🙏
@@MrKarmap awesome that’s great to hear man, congrats on your ORP! Nice choice. 🙌
Congrats on a 15 year old vehicle
@@mguison187 …that’ll run longer and hold value much better than the brand brand new 2025. 😉
You’re right, but that new hybrid motor has some major power and is the only reason to upgrade. I drove the new Land Cruiser and the power/torque are awesome. If you’re thinking of getting a 2024 4Runner, get it with a dealer installed Magnuson supercharger, or wait till 2026 to get the new gen.
Clean and simple is what I like. I would NOT do anything to the exterior of that Toyota.👍 What's the MPG?
@@danielk0106 agreed! 💯 it’s at 16-17 mpg… not great haha 😂
@@UntamedMotors my 2007 Silverado crew cab 121k miles gets 14 city or hwy. No matter what. 🤣 MPG isn't a concern when I buy it for working. Can't pull trailers with a Prius. 🤣
I bought a new 2023 TRD ORP with KDSS a year ago to savour the 5th Gen features. 95% of my driving is in town and the KDSS provides a good ride in my opinion.
I configured a 4Runner Trailhunter on Toyota's site. About $70k MSRP and the mpg is poor. I'd have to take out a second loan just to pay for the gas.
Since he mentioned it, from what complaints & data I could gather from Landcruiser forum pages, all of these transmission failures are directly related to people overloading when towing, & driving 70 mph everywhere they go. Not gonna defend Toyota's drop in quality, but don't be a moron with a new car. Drive it normal, use eco mode to maximize fuel economy, don't overload for towing. And who gets a midsize vehicle to tow anyway?! Wanna tow shit? GET A DIESEL TRUCK!
Still enjoying my 2022 4Runner Limited!
Such a real break down! Appreciate this brother 🫡🙏
@@Kjngvjkenj44t34rt appreciate the kind feedback man, thanks for watching! 🙏
Got a 2023 Limited one.. Great car without a doubt!!
My wife has a '23 SR5, and I just picked up a '17 SR5 with 89K miles on it for a really good deal. I will keep driving my '98, but what this guy is saying is spot on... I could not pass up that '17 while it was out in the wild because I am noticing that they get snatched up very quick these days.
Nice work owner 2024 Four Runner TRD Pro underground ext. just solid fun to drive God Bless
I bought a 4 Runner recently but traded it in. Getting on the highway with it was scary, it just has no power at all and literally almost got run off the road by truck drivers. I'm sure it's a great vehicle and will last a long time but I need something with more power. I should've taken it on the highway when I took the test drive instead of just around town. Another thing that drove me crazy was the shimmy I had when I got up to around 60 to 70 mph. I brought it back to the dealers but the shimmy was still there.
Tires under inflated
@@mikeporro3311 Nope
You’re crazy man, get that PSI up a touch and you’re good to go! I easily go 80mph on cruise control in my 2021 and no shimmy or shake.
Love that start up sound, the sound of a most excellent ride about to start.
I agree 💯
Bought a 2024 TRD offroad premium in ice cap and predator package back in June and love my decision...it's my second gen 5. I'm also craving a Ford Ranger Raptor but have never owned a domestic vechicle...for $57k it's a lot of bang for the buck!
@@KAOS4EVER1 you won’t regret that purchase! And the Ranger Raptor is equally awesome… I agree much more bang for your buck. 👌
Absolutely 100% right about this topic.....thank you ✌️
Got my 2023 CPO ORP in Lunar. Sooooo glad I did. Want no part of the 2025.
Good call man! Congrats on your lunar rock ORP! 👌
@@UntamedMotors thanks. Appreciate your videos and how you give honest opinions. I feel other UA-camrs have started like your channel but morphed into Toyota commercials. Keep up the great work.
@@4gedcarbon537 really appreciate the kind feedback man, thank you. 🙏
It's been delayed till next year, we don't know how they are going to price it. More likely below the Land Cruiser especially if the Tacoma is not selling well.
I own a 2006 Toyota 4Runner Limited V8 4WD purchased new in 2006 currently with 57K+ miles... it's unmodified except for the tires which I replaced with Geolander A/T G015 which made a huge difference (from the original H/T tires) in both rain and especially snow!! This is the fourth 4Runner I've owned (an '86, '88, and '94) and imho it's perfect... acceleration is not only outstanding but the V8 and its excellent transmission makes it SO smooth to pass, reach the necessary speed to merge into a busy interstate, or climb a long interstate hill without slowing down... a little known feature is the ability to plug your iPhone into the jack (3.2 mm) inside the armrest on the lower right and all Apple music and podcast's can be played through the incredible JBL Limited sound system. There's is no backup camera so I have to drive with care using my mirrors and caution and no lane assist, etc... I basically, have to drive my 4Runner using my brain.
You (Untamed Motors content providers) are absolutely correct when it comes to purchasing a 4Runner that may not be the newest product Toyota delivers to dealers... when the 4th Gen came out I waited until 2006 to purchase, then it was obvious inside and out that Toyota has resolved all the 4th Gen problems... I've never had my 2006 in for anything other than preventive maintenance (a turn signal light bulb did go out recently and it was replaced)... despite being an 18 year old vehicle, there are no squeaks, rattles, or any mechanical or interior switch problems -- or -- no recalls, too!
Would I like a back-up camera added to my 4Runner?? idk, maybe... I really like the 6-disc changer that's there... going on a long trip I can check an audio book out from the library (for free) and load it up, drive away, and listen to a compelling story making the whole trip go so fast... a 4Runner is a great purchase (I don't get any money for saying this)... my comment is based solely on my experience to date...
Ditto. Mine is a 2003 V8 4WD. Bought new. Itching to buy a new one again but...maybe not. Probably not.
@Untamed my 2024 TRD ORP in Underground is due by the end of the month. The wait is killing me. I am gifting it to my wife and hope she will able to drive it for 25 years. Thanks for all your do.
2024 TRD PRO here 🎉 purchased in May because, yes.
Nice! Good call. You won’t ever regret that purchase! 👌
Agree with you 1000%, exactly why I bought a 23 4Runner.
@@tinabeane Nice! You won’t ever regret that purchase 👌
I have a feeling we’re going to see more 4Runner videos and I’m so excited!
Already done!! Just traded in my 2017 runner for an upgraded 24 trd OR. Got a great price on my 2017. Now my fleet consists of my 21 trd pro lunar rock tundra, 24 underground trd OR, and my baby - Yamaha grizzly 700 ATV
As always appreciate the summary...agree with your position...quality is decreasing, complexity is increasing and prices (aka value) is not where it needs to be. I think Toyota will struggle in the next couple of years unless they shift their mindset.
Last month (August) bought a 2024 Limited because I did not want the redesigned electrified 2025 4Runner. I love it with off road capabilities! Reliability was very important for my choice when buying this ride,.
Just got my 2024 4Runner Limited for 50k…. It’s loaded with full time 4 wheel drive and amazing JBL sound system. One word, Simplicity!!!!!!!
@@Earl.McGhee heck yeah man! Congrats! Good choice.
How they messed up a Manual Transmission in this day and age is unfathomable.
You helped lead the attiturbo truck movement and were right!!
Bought a used 2021 4Runner for 31K it's a base model SR5 with no options and I absolutely love it, simple reliable affordable everything the new 4Runner (really all new Toyota trucks) are not anymore and I will drive it forever.
A while ago, I upgraded from a 2017 5th gen to a 2022 ORP. I've been busy upgrading it eversince. The truck is just that good and worth every penny. For me KDSS was a must, especially since my previous TRD Pro lacked this feature. Everything else I upgraded to TRD Pro spects. The lack of KDSS with the 6th gen is a deal killer for me. The crappy powertrain and cheap looking interior leaves little to desire.
Would it have been too difficult for Toyota to introduce change gradually? I wished I had just stomached the payments on a 4Runner instead of buying the RAV4. All these changes with zero fallback options make returning to Ford a little more tempting. We can say that "time will tell" all day, but I still look at those Tundras left on lots as a prime example of what will soon happen to everything else.
I enjoy your content, Untamed! Great info all day long!
Bought my 24 TRD ORP 3 weeks ago. Barcelona red. This thing is a tank!
I'll never give up my 2024 ORP 4runner. 👍
I paid 69K CDN for a 2024 4 Runner Terra TRD Pro...feels like a bargain based on what the 2025 will cost. Your videos were instrumental in helping me make my choice. Thank you.
where are you man? there is none in metro vancouver BC. I even have a tacoma trade in, but nobody has new cars in stock
No way you paid 69k cnd.
That's the price of 2021 Mercedes s580 ultra premium luxury .
@@JattAnmoli That was the MSRP and no dealer fee or add ons. The CDN cars come with the rock crawlers as well. That price includes all delivery and dealer fees but not taxes...13% in Ontario. I dealt with Erin Mills Toyota.
@@rachelgreen1368 Those are very nice cars but a tad of a headache once they are out of warranty. I have a Merc and 3 911's and am well aware of what cars cost. The 4 Runner is worth every penny and is, at that price, a bargain.
Think you’re spot on with everything
@@nakendraperry6264 thanks man 🙏
i have been trying to find a new trd pro at this time but no car dealers have them available or expect any of them soon. I guess a TRD offroad Premium has to do it :) thanks for the video
Best of luck on your search! The right one will come along soon!
I was at my local Toyota lot this week sat in the new Land cruiser, tundra, and Sequoia. I'm just not a fan of all the new nanny controls and fanciness inside. My tundra and I were out getting dirty this weekend mountain biking that's what a truck is for not to looking fancy, I guess I'm just not the buyer for the Toyota's new vision is looking for, they want more of the fake outdoors person
No. They just want over all better everything .
I worked for a major car manufacturer for over 17 years, and I can tell you anytime a NEW MODEL comes out there WILL be problems because ALL the processes have changed, and you have less than one minute to do your job, so it takes at least one year for it to start to settle in on how the processes go and the workers REALLY start knowing how to perform their process and they follow the operational standards per operational manual. I purchased a 2023 SR5 4 RUNNER do all the maintenance, RED for ROLL TIDE!!
At least the 4Runner will hold up better than Alabama. 😂JK- Go Bucks!
@@timalan7406 You got that right. We can't tackle, pass, run the ball, we have a quarterback that should be a linebacker, how do you have a player WIDE open and throw the ball almost into the stands, GO BUCKS.
@@bobbygregory1007 I bought a 2024 TRD ORP for that reason.
That 4 runner is Dope AF!
Thanks a ton brother
I just dumped my toyota stock at a loss because I'm disgusted with they have done with the entire fleet. How do you go from one of the best, to total crap?? MANAGEMENT STUPIDITY. I'll keep my '19 4Runner SR5 Premium, thank you.
Much better power and gas mileage on the 4 cylinder turbo engine compared to my old V6 model 4Runner, I’m sure I’ll get high mileage on my turbo
Ive been using turbo engines at my job for years and most easily get over 300 thousand miles
My old v6 struggles up hills and and 4 banger turbo goes up without a struggle
Inflation is killing everything. I saw a 2024 4Runner SR5 for 52k just 3 days ago. I paid 40k back in 2017 for an Off-road Premium with KDSS, moonroof, and sliding rear cargo tray.
Piano black trim on the 25’s will immediately get pinstriped. Not sure what they were thinking.
I will definitely get a a 2023 trd off road premium
I was tempted to go with the GX550, but I guess I'll keep my 23 TRD Pro dinosaur 😂.
I found a 22 4Runner SR5 premium for 30k. I’ve never been happier in my life. Had 34 on the dash. I feel like I won’t the lottery.
Good video untamed-you are correct.
Will drive my fifth GEN to the wheels fall off, I don’t think they’re going to fall off. Lol. I looked at the new Land Cruiser this weekend, if I was going to buy something, it would probably be the GX 550
I bought the 5th generation 4Runner ( 2024 ) and I couldn't be happier . I have Toyotas last of the bulletproof engines .
good points👍
Scooped up a ORP while I could. Shame Pros are still marked up like crazy here in California.
I'm in a 19' SR5 premium with 66k miles on it, and no payments. Going to stick with mine for several more years and just keep banking my money
Glad I got mine 2 months ago in Terra
Good call man. Congrats!
@@UntamedMotors yes thank you
My terra coming in two weeks!
@@ofwoodsandwords4424 awesome! Congrats man!! 🙌
Our Terra is coming toward the end of October.
Got a 2023 base TRD OffRoad 4runner with KDSS brand new in 2022 for 46k out the door. Didnt like all the bells and whistles from the premium and love the cloth. I feel i got a good value but i drive 1900 miles a month and want to see it at 300k.
Toyota has made way too many drastic changes to multiple vehicles in such a small timeframe. Hope they can dig themselves out of this rut!
I bought a 2023 TRD Pro 4R in Solar Octane in June. It's not like me to buy a bright orange vehicle but the 4Runner looks so good in that color. I've driven German SUV's for a long time and they make great cars, but the problems start stacking up around 50k miles. I'm sick of it. I guess now that I'm older I'm ready to just have a car for years that I can count on. It's got Apple car play and a/c, and it goes anywhere. What more do you need?
9/18/24 - Your vid is excellent
1. Highlight the exorbitant cost
2. Turbo No Way for Now
3. Quality lackluster
Yea … No thanks to 2025 4Runner
Bring back the undisputed quality
2000 - 2004
I’ll wait til 2030-40
Maybe just then Toyota will get it righ
Once again
I knew this was coming bought a new off road pro 2023 for msrp only have 2800 miles on it bought it before i needed it getting ready to start daily driving it daily.
REASONS:
1. Price
2. Engine Problems
3. Quality Control
4. Technology
5. Resale Value
4 cylinder
turbo
hybrid
less cargo
less rear clearance
no bump stops
looks like a Rav4/Xterra bastard child
6 . dealer mark up
There are no engine problems, quality control is silly since they’ll be made in Toyota. Technology will be much better and resale value will be great
@@j.taveras8447less cargo? Huh?
@@scottstewart8737 buy and keep, I sold my 1992 pick up still wish I had it
Listen to this man. He is a wise man. 🙏
Completely agree! Did you get tint installed? What did/are you going with for the sides and windshield?
I did. I only went with 30% on the driver and passenger windows. Nothing else. 👍
Historically Toyota is known for its Kaizan philosophy; which served them well. IMO, they did not practice that philosophy when going from Gen 5 to Gen 6 4 Runners resulting in questionable quality products.
That’s a fact 💯
Seems the last couple years they haven’t been practicing it.
@@Careym-kt1oc agreed 👍
They're not even out yet, Nostradamus.
Love my 24 TRD pro 4Runner. Such a great vehicle.
Great reasons…I just can’t justify modern day prices with 15 year old Tech and design. 15 years of 4Runner is ubiquitous…everyone and their grandmas have one.
@@sunchaser999 I hear you. They are everywhere and they’re old. But they work. Reliability will be priceless as we move forward with the new Gen imo.
Best post here.
I’m deciding on whether or not to get this car but I don’t do any off-roading and it’s a gas guzzler. Also acceleration sucks. Please convince me to buy one
It’s just offers a raw, visceral driving feel… a feeling that’s lost on most new vehicles. The V8 offers a lot of drama to the driving experience. Nothing is more reliable either. 👌
Resale will remain high for the foreseeable future.
Naturally aspirated 280 hp V6. Throttle by wire causes a delay in throttle response. Pedal commander fixes that. It ain't a sports car but I never have a problem getting on the highway and I live in a congested high volume area. It's a truck, go buy a Hemi Durango or Jeep pos if fast is what u need. Lol!
@@mikeporro3311 lol I’m not really sure what I want tbh
Man I live in Vegas been trying to get a TRD Pro 4 runner these last couple months but dealerships out here are charging $20000 over msrp if I lose out I’m just going to look for 2021 Trd pro tundra instead
I agree they will make the 6th gen better but it will take years, if ever. The Tundra mechanical issues are still not completely fixed.
just ordered a 2025 might put it on hold now??
In my area, can't barely find a new 2024 and even all the 2023-2024 used ones cost more than MSRP prices 🤯...
People are mistakenly thinking that the 2025 4Runner is going to get significantly improved MPG. Think again. The 4 cylinder Turbo is not about improved MPG. It has to do with meeting mandated emission standards. I traded in a 2023 Subaru Outback for my 2024 SR5 2 WD. The Outback was averaging 19 MPG in city only driving. My 4Runner is averaging about the same.
Put me on the bandwagon, bought a 2024 4Runner, and I think people are getting decent prices because the dealers nationwide are in a must sell position after all the bad press on their turbo trucks and with lots full.
I bought a leftover 2023 last November when I saw the redesigned 2025 was coming. I wanted no parts of the looks or engine.
Bought a new 2024 here in GA for $47,200 off road premium Barcelona red- $4300 under with TRD wheels sunroof and premium service package. I searched nation wide for 8 months and love this thing!
Heck yeah man! Great deal. 👌 congrats!
@@speedtoyz5574 overpriced.
Beautiful color, that was the color of my 2019 TRD Off road. Congratulations
where?? I am in Georgia and looking to get a 24 tad off road premium. thank you!!
@@25falcons Milton martin in Oakwood GA. Ask for Trey and use my B Aborn He has underground Pro on the way now stock is getting low !
Toyota should come after you for trying to ruin their truck sales. 24 LC didn't have one recall. And I love it.
Even with better gas mileage the 2025 may never even pay off the price difference, no less the depreciation and worry factor about transmission issues. I was looking at the new Taco's and 4Runners but for the kind of money they want, I'm now looking at totally restored early 70's Bronco's - way more cool factor and will likely hold value or increase! Plus I can get parts and work on it myself!
As usual, I could not agree more! 👍