VICE News goes inside HUMV to see military life behind bars, and visits a professor and Vietnam vet who thinks these prison programs are getting one crucial thing wrong. Watch next on prison and VR technology - bit.ly/2Bviv6j
Cant_Touch_This Most of the military plays a support role. Your perception of most people being killing machines is from Hollywood. People in the military think XYZ is a waste of money or a dumb war all the time! I don’t know why you see them as naive children that can learn how to do everything from be a doctor to fix aircraft, but can’t think critically about anything.
jorge S sad but true. I've watched my father and brothers jump through hoops just for regular va benefits...its a shame...our vets are worth so much more
I don't know your circumstances, but you could try getting together with other local veterans and getting into newspapers and onto local radio - local media is usually short of stories, and unfortunately you have to be loud to get attention sometimes.
I do like this because many Vets fall down to the dark paths, many to homeless or life of crime using their training for that crime. I do hope this helps them.
Only 25 inmates to the vast amount of veteran's that need our support. The main soldier got busted for theft for drug's not once but twice and yes the way it goes probably against his family and friends.
Hayden Holman, you really have no shame, do you? You’re really willing to bash men and women who signed up to defend us? Many could have gone to college, there are doctors and mechanics, lawyers and more. Yet there you are willing to say that they are dumb? Perhaps you don’t deserve the rights that those people fought to give you, that many died to protect for you. So you don’t have to fear tyrants who would love to have this country in their grasp? Course you feel safe to say this, since this is the internet. Would you so kindly go up to a veteran who served, and tell them that they are dumb and never had a plan? Of course you’d say yes, since you’re anonymous. I don’t believe you actually would.
It baffles me that we shouldn’t try and rehabilitate all criminals. The focus should be on making them into productive citizens, not antagonizing them. I believe that the Veteran’s wing is a crucial step towards that idea or rehabilitation.
I don't see why some people are hating this idea. Vets aren't like normal criminals. They come from a completely different culture than what's here in the states. It's hard for them to not only adjust to a civilian life style but for some to land on their feet if they have no clue what to do once they leave. A lot of them end up having mental problems and have to deal with a slow system to try and get help. Vets put their chance of a normal civilian life on hold so others don't have to. If someone comes up with a program that helps vets who are having trouble, it works, and cost the same amount as one full time employee than I see no problem with it. These men and women were willing to give their lives for us to have everything we have today. We should be willing to give them whatever they need to adjust back to a normal life.
VERY well said, I thoroughly agree. I'm curious what it would take in my county to do this so that we can begin helping our people be successful, rather than struggling.
This must be a paradigm shift in the US, trying to rehab criminals instead of punishing Old Testament style and filling up prisons with convicts for life...
As a veteran, this is exactly how I would want to do my time if I ever had to go to jail. It just makes good sense to separate the military vets because they know how to follow orders and should be easy as hell to manage.
Tuck3r no veteran should ever be in jail they have they’re life for this country yet the country doesn’t do anything for them they should be treated better then celebrities or anyone else
I love this. This is a step in the right direction. We need to help our vets before they get to this point, but I also love that they are using the same model for other groups of inmates
This program sounds real successful, just wish it was around for my ol' Dad, a WWII Army Vet who fought bravely in the South Pacific theatre, but later had a terrible time with alcoholism, something that badly affected us 5 kids growing up to love our "Daddy" but hated when he mistreated our poor Mom! i 'm sure tho generations of military Veterans differ in times, but the PTSD, shellshock, or whatever the updated vocabulary might be, they're a young men and women who served and i hope this prison program grows and helps to separate Veterans from the rest of the prison population. . .God knows they've paid the price just being in the military. Thanx for this video which actually brought me to tears that a Vet should even need to be jailed to get much needed help for them AND their families. God bless those who cared enough to start this program. Thanx again!!!
Except this is being done experimentally, please do not give us more credit until we implement this on a much larger scale and give it more time to succeed.
We need more programs like this. I am in love with this idea. I help the homeless a lot and at least 25% of the people I help are veterans. There right there really is no training to show them how to go from Army mode back to civilian mode. Most people think that exploding fireworks on 4th of July honor them when in reality most vets I know don't like Fourth of July because it brings back their PTSD. The Army really does condition them to fight but doesn't really condition them to rejoin normal life.
EXACTLY! Many I'd imagine would much rather a quiet place with some good friends to chill for the 4'th rather than sounds that awaken the horrors they'd much sooner leave buried in the past. These men need to be helped transition back over to civilian life after their discharge. Given our defense budget, you'd think a transitional program would be well within the grasp of our mighty DoD to produce so these people can make the jump back over more successfully. We owe them this much in my eyes. And so much more.
This is an amazing idea and should be implemented everywhere in America! PTSD is a real thing that destroys our vet's quality of life if not treated which often leads to poor choices. If they can't get the help they need b4 being incarcerated...the least we can do is give them this fighting chance while in prison. The sacrifices these men and women make for US and OUR freedom should count for something!
No, mere criminals do not deserve this level of respect. Vets however do, as many of them are left to their own devices after leaving the military. Even then doing service instantly puts you above any degenerate criminal.
Been given a personal councilor is not a human right. To the extent of my knowledge US prisons do not break human rights. They provided food, water shelter, medical care and protection. Vets not only show bravery but honor, character and have earned respect. Criminals have earned to be disrespected.
I personally believe it would be a grand thing if the country you call home has an obligation to help you when you don't fit in society. Be that for criminals or mentally disabled.
It would, but money aint growing on trees. And it will be virtually impossible to convince people that some degenerate criminal should get the same support as a vet.
Mophie you don't make as much money if you're paying out to rehabilitate plus if you Rehabilitate them, they don't come back and then you don't get to make money it's all capitalism, for profit prison systems
I wish they had better programs for when people get out before they get into trouble. I had a lot of anger issues when I first got out and almost ended up in military prison. Insanely thankful I was able to get out of that situation.
Its great to see men supporting men and getting into groups based on a shared experience. One of the big challenges for vets I think is trying to reintegrate back into a society that in some parts is too gynocentric. We need to bring back more support for men and men’s groups besides just sports. Men can make an enormous contribution to society if they are given the freedom and encouragement to do so.
Art Curious absolutely. They go from a male dominated environment with a real brother hood, where they are willing to literally lat down their lives for the guy next to them. To being in easy every day life in America where everyone expects them to just pick up and resume where they were before they left. Meanwhile they had a life changing experience. They feel left behind and unsure how to cope with this fast moving world. They lose the brothers they had in the service. Their old friends don't get it. Nobody gets it except those who have lived it.
Really? American society is a patriarchy. Men already have every freedom to "contribute" to society. Men CONTROL society. I'm not saying vets shouldn't get help when they return - of course they should. I just think it's a bit naive to think that men 'don't get to have power" once they return.
SoSuave Tips , that makes a lot more sense than other explanations. I just feel the feminization of our culture is compounding the problem. I remember working construction and landscaping after high school in order to save and pay for college. It was a separate life track than most college students who stayed in school their entire lives and never paid for their way. I hated dorm life and the rah rah atmosphere and spent most of my time hanging out with teachers, working adults or with students who were from working class backgrounds. College was a joke in terms of maturity levels and a waste of time for many students who simply drank, played video games, and downloaded all their homework off the internet. So I imagine the transition is even greater for a vet who takes on much more responsibility and has to mature much faster than a civilian. I’m not sure what to say in terms of career advice but some of the best teachers I had were military vets. Especially if they were teaching military history. And some of the best police officers, doctors, small business owners, and businesses leaders are all military vets.
Support, treatment, rehabilitation. This is how jails work in most well-functioning countries. This is such an obvious approach to incarceration. Just roll this out to all inmates. Jail is not about punishment, it's about helping people be better citizens.
They should do this to ALL INMATES not just Vets..im sure if you treat everyone like this alot more people will be able to get back into society,work & help out.im not saying this is a bad Idea but why just Vets? Im thankful they served our country but they need to try this with all "Jails & inmates....
Andrew's Theories so are this guys...why do you think they are loocked up? Not for acting Nice..oh wait nevermind this guys are white so it does not count they deserve this and more lol
Michael, if you go back to drugs I'll be disappointed but just remember you have a support group and don't forget to ask for help when you need it. We all need it sometimes.
I like it. The knowingly volunteered to serve without realizing the side effects of skewing their formative adulthood years. The military hammers in a necessary lifestyle that some people are naturally unable to do by themselves. They were also taught how to survive in dangerous & violent situations while becoming addicted to either the comradery which was missing in their youth or the adrenaline of war. Either way it's easy to see someone being lost without structure and easily falling victim to another addiction, acting out to gain acceptance, or the disassociation from the general public who cannot understand the close relationships of soldiers. Call it special treatment, but it's deserved for the sacrifice
Oh shit this was my old home town. I used to go fishing across from that jail and always wondered what was going on in there. Glad to see they’re doing something like this.
Why the special treatment? There are people out there suffering from the same mental illness and trauma. Why are those people being put into a system that doesn't rehabilitate and make them worse when they get out? If this gets extended to all prisoners I will agree, however if this is just a veteran program even after proven success then America still has a long way to go.
The veterans have a large amount of people mostly veterans themselves who are willing to be unpaid volunteers to make the program possible. Why don’t people that experienced trauma that didn’t join the military want to help people like themselves for free in large enough numbers to have free programs?
This is prison done right. Now you need to do this with the rest of the inmates. C'mon USA, you're growing up! Heeeyyy you're making your first steps to being less inhumane and more like freedom!
+Mcnugget Man he literally just fucking said that this isn't lefty propoganda. The stuff they do now is. reading comprehension much? Who's the tard now? Because it clearly isn't him
This wouldn’t be necessary if vets were taken care of before and after leaving the service. After serving a decade and 4 tours I was given 3 days to clear post and figure out the rest of my life. 30 days after going home I was arrested for drugs and given 5 years that I did everyday of. This program shows that the people creating these programs should be running the VA and majority of the government.
How about helping members of our military before they get to a point in life that lands them in prison....I'm all for this program dont get me wrong but I believe we shkild be doing more before it gets to this point
I really hope they take into consideration what that professor said and really make this work our veterans put their lives at risk to keep us free. Had to watch their friends give up their lives so they and us could be free. Had to serve and be a part of some missions that were probably very traumatic and none of us civilians could have handled. And then when they get back not only do we forget about them but worse yet the US government isn't there for them could you imagine risking all of that. Losing friends limbs. Your sanity to keep a country safe and then turn around and get ignored once you're home. No help for the mental stress you now carry and the potential for little things like loud noises to fling you straight back into the middle of a war (in your head). Just think about it. Of everyone could spare like $100 (obviously if you can't do that and that's understandable rn. You can donate whatever money or just your time build houses work at soup kitchens. There is a lot go look.
Are they doing this for female vets as well? I'm just curious to see if they are also being offered this. My husband, fatherinlaw, and gandfathers served and I think this is a great idea.
People do not understand that’s the way it should be for our vets. That they come home and sometimes are lost. We use these people, and they need this to get back on track with their own fellow military people.
It's not a surprising situation when the state of MA treats veterans like criminals. Ma is a police state that never forgives and will hold an arrest that ended in a dismissal 20 years prior against you in court. Since in MA in police logs they see all arrests without a date and without whether it was a conviction or not. I've seen Vets whom got in trouble as a kid, went in the service, served 20 years honorable with multiple combat tours, be treated like a habitual offender by police and court due to a criminal history 30 years prior. Yet, what do you expect from a police force whom wears a uniform the Nazis based their uniform off of.
Person's rocking hella proper star neck tatts, I'd like to got to know this dude. He's hella proper respect mannerisms etc. Hope he fits what he needs.
There isnt enough programs or assistance for vets. Im a Army vet and homeless and too proud to ask for help and prob going to lead me behind bars. I would volunteer if one was available in Naples, Fl
prisons were meant for rehabilitation, but now it's just for a free workforce. The prisons end up turning non violent small time criminals, into hardened ones, which means after they are let out, they will be right back in, What incentive do the prisons corpeoations have to rehabilitate? the goodness of their hearts? yeah, because corporations are known to act in the best interest of the people.
My brother guarded poppy fields, he was ordered to and when he was asked he was told this is there way of life. He's all fucked up from bad stuff he's seen too.
Its a good start but maybe the military should offer and direct veterans to similar services outside of jail before they have to go through even more hardship before being offered this help
Omg Michael Person, I know you. Im so sorry dude. If anyone else reads this, I knew him when he was in the service. I never even imagined I would see him in a UA-cam video. I doubt he would want to talk to me again, when he got out I was supposed to call him, but I didn't. I was going through through a rough time as well, but he was going through even worse.
A lot of these vets are fucked up because of what they saw during their deployment and they need mental help they never received to actually not be on drugs it’s fucked yo they deserve that help they put everything on the line for us
The experimental jail should be a lump sum payment of a million dollars, "thanks for serving the country and not its CEOs." Would eliminate all crimes post service.
These poor guys have to go to jail to get the help they should get after the military....why this is a great idea this also really pisses me off that they have to go to jail to get help...
_Not_ having a return-to-The-World system for the forces is stupid, because prison and rehabilitation are so expensive. If you have a cynical mind, the current bad system might be related to the party donors who make big money off of private prisons.
VICE News goes inside HUMV to see military life behind bars, and visits a professor and Vietnam vet who thinks these prison programs are getting one crucial thing wrong.
Watch next on prison and VR technology - bit.ly/2Bviv6j
Cant_Touch_This Most of the military plays a support role. Your perception of most people being killing machines is from Hollywood.
People in the military think XYZ is a waste of money or a dumb war all the time! I don’t know why you see them as naive children that can learn how to do everything from be a doctor to fix aircraft, but can’t think critically about anything.
go figure no mention of slave wages as a problem cuz vice is just nazi propaganda
“I’m gonna go to lunch with my mother and brother and squeeze the life out of them”
Shiiit so I have to get locked up to get help from the VA
jorge S basically. The US doesn’t give a shit about our veterans. It’s terrible.
jorge S sad but true. I've watched my father and brothers jump through hoops just for regular va benefits...its a shame...our vets are worth so much more
I don't know your circumstances, but you could try getting together with other local veterans and getting into newspapers and onto local radio - local media is usually short of stories, and unfortunately you have to be loud to get attention sometimes.
Sadly
Lol, no. You can literally just call them or go to them and they will provide services.
I do like this because many Vets fall down to the dark paths, many to homeless or life of crime using their training for that crime. I do hope this helps them.
Only 25 inmates to the vast amount of veteran's that need our support. The main soldier got busted for theft for drug's not once but twice and yes the way it goes probably against his family and friends.
Blaze Hunter you're supposed to be paying for post battle escapades, civie :p
Any statistics or proof of your claim?
Hayden Holman, you really have no shame, do you? You’re really willing to bash men and women who signed up to defend us? Many could have gone to college, there are doctors and mechanics, lawyers and more. Yet there you are willing to say that they are dumb? Perhaps you don’t deserve the rights that those people fought to give you, that many died to protect for you. So you don’t have to fear tyrants who would love to have this country in their grasp? Course you feel safe to say this, since this is the internet. Would you so kindly go up to a veteran who served, and tell them that they are dumb and never had a plan? Of course you’d say yes, since you’re anonymous. I don’t believe you actually would.
G, i suppose you‘re right about that.
Finally, something is being done to help our veterans. Veterans who can't adapt to everyday life as easily as others deserve help.
It baffles me every time to see veterans left to their own devices in a country with such an insane military budget.
It baffles me that we shouldn’t try and rehabilitate all criminals. The focus should be on making them into productive citizens, not antagonizing them. I believe that the Veteran’s wing is a crucial step towards that idea or rehabilitation.
Because the budget is going all digital age/Cyber and tech, the vets are viewed as temporary soldiers.
Most of that money is handed out to contractors
Enlist for your corporations and to defend their profits. Lay your life down to lay down pipe lines.
The military budget is for the active duty military and buying equipment from contractors. Veterans don't really matter to them any more.
I don't see why some people are hating this idea. Vets aren't like normal criminals. They come from a completely different culture than what's here in the states. It's hard for them to not only adjust to a civilian life style but for some to land on their feet if they have no clue what to do once they leave. A lot of them end up having mental problems and have to deal with a slow system to try and get help. Vets put their chance of a normal civilian life on hold so others don't have to. If someone comes up with a program that helps vets who are having trouble, it works, and cost the same amount as one full time employee than I see no problem with it. These men and women were willing to give their lives for us to have everything we have today. We should be willing to give them whatever they need to adjust back to a normal life.
Thank you, Zaros. Well said.
VERY well said, I thoroughly agree. I'm curious what it would take in my county to do this so that we can begin helping our people be successful, rather than struggling.
I'd become a jailer just to help these Veterans. Both of my grandfather's served in Vietnam and I have nothing but respect for them.
This must be a paradigm shift in the US, trying to rehab criminals instead of punishing Old Testament style and filling up prisons with convicts for life...
Simon Kefas if it is then it’s a change for good so far
Some convicts deserve to be in prison for life or executed
dog guy exactly, some. Most people don't commit unforgivable crimes though.
dog guy. Even conservative GOP’s realize the economy in rehabilitating and releasing prisoners. Prisons are very expensive for taxpayers.
Remember these men are US Military Veterans before they where criminals.
As a veteran, this is exactly how I would want to do my time if I ever had to go to jail. It just makes good sense to separate the military vets because they know how to follow orders and should be easy as hell to manage.
Tuck3r im sure you would like that..is like taking a vacacion from a real Jail..
Tuck3r no veteran should ever be in jail they have they’re life for this country yet the country doesn’t do anything for them they should be treated better then celebrities or anyone else
Bushcraft NE lock them up if they do a crime. if they can follow orders well as they say, they can follow the law
Bushcraft NE So, if a vet commits a crime they shouldn’t go to jail? That’s stupid
literally anyone would want to do their jail time like this. it’s a shame only a small group of soldiers get to. privileged.
I love this. This is a step in the right direction. We need to help our vets before they get to this point, but I also love that they are using the same model for other groups of inmates
This program sounds real successful, just wish it was around for my ol' Dad, a WWII Army Vet who fought bravely in the South Pacific theatre, but later had a terrible time with alcoholism, something that badly affected us 5 kids growing up to love our "Daddy" but hated when he mistreated our poor Mom! i 'm sure tho generations of military Veterans differ in times, but the PTSD, shellshock, or whatever the updated vocabulary might be, they're a young men and women who served and i hope this prison program grows and helps to separate Veterans from the rest of the prison population. . .God knows they've paid the price just being in the military. Thanx for this video which actually brought me to tears that a Vet should even need to be jailed to get much needed help for them AND their families. God bless those who cared enough to start this program. Thanx again!!!
I don't generally agree with a lot of things in America at the moment (I'm From England) but this is a genuinely good thing they are doing, well done.
TheDayOne they should do this with all prisoners just cuz someone went to army shouldnt mean shit
Except this is being done experimentally, please do not give us more credit until we implement this on a much larger scale and give it more time to succeed.
butt head Thats too expensive and unrealistic sadly.
firefang1343 and why is that how much money does the goverment spend on bombs and drones that are used mostly to kill innocent people
Don't generally agree with monarchy myself,but that's why I'm proud to be an American.🖕
We need more programs like this. I am in love with this idea. I help the homeless a lot and at least 25% of the people I help are veterans. There right there really is no training to show them how to go from Army mode back to civilian mode. Most people think that exploding fireworks on 4th of July honor them when in reality most vets I know don't like Fourth of July because it brings back their PTSD. The Army really does condition them to fight but doesn't really condition them to rejoin normal life.
EXACTLY! Many I'd imagine would much rather a quiet place with some good friends to chill for the 4'th rather than sounds that awaken the horrors they'd much sooner leave buried in the past. These men need to be helped transition back over to civilian life after their discharge. Given our defense budget, you'd think a transitional program would be well within the grasp of our mighty DoD to produce so these people can make the jump back over more successfully. We owe them this much in my eyes. And so much more.
This is an amazing idea and should be implemented everywhere in America! PTSD is a real thing that destroys our vet's quality of life if not treated which often leads to poor choices. If they can't get the help they need b4 being incarcerated...the least we can do is give them this fighting chance while in prison. The sacrifices these men and women make for US and OUR freedom should count for something!
Every prisoner deserves an opportunity for this kind of respect and rehabilitation.
No, mere criminals do not deserve this level of respect. Vets however do, as many of them are left to their own devices after leaving the military. Even then doing service instantly puts you above any degenerate criminal.
Meme Machine Just because these people exemplified bravery doesn’t mean they should be the only ones with human rights
Been given a personal councilor is not a human right. To the extent of my knowledge US prisons do not break human rights. They provided food, water shelter, medical care and protection.
Vets not only show bravery but honor, character and have earned respect. Criminals have earned to be disrespected.
I personally believe it would be a grand thing if the country you call home has an obligation to help you when you don't fit in society. Be that for criminals or mentally disabled.
It would, but money aint growing on trees. And it will be virtually impossible to convince people that some degenerate criminal should get the same support as a vet.
as a veteran and the wife of a veteran that was in prison...i think that they need these veteran units every.
Bella person on Facebook can you add me he’s my fiancé in the video
I really don’t see how anyone could be against this. Especially if the statistics are true and theyre not coming back to prison.
Mophie you don't make as much money if you're paying out to rehabilitate plus if you Rehabilitate them, they don't come back and then you don't get to make money it's all capitalism, for profit prison systems
This is truly interesting.
It's fucked up that jail doesn't equal rehabilitation rather than a paycheck
As a veteran myself, I approve this.
This is a very nice thing that the county has done for them get these people who came out of the army some structure
If we invested more in helping out veterans instead of pointless military projects that go nowhere we wouldn’t even need prisons like this.
I wish they had better programs for when people get out before they get into trouble. I had a lot of anger issues when I first got out and almost ended up in military prison. Insanely thankful I was able to get out of that situation.
Getting out was so much more difficult than going in.
Bella Person on Facebook my fiancé was is mike and he would love other vets to reach out
Its great to see men supporting men and getting into groups based on a shared experience. One of the big challenges for vets I think is trying to reintegrate back into a society that in some parts is too gynocentric. We need to bring back more support for men and men’s groups besides just sports. Men can make an enormous contribution to society if they are given the freedom and encouragement to do so.
Art Curious absolutely. They go from a male dominated environment with a real brother hood, where they are willing to literally lat down their lives for the guy next to them. To being in easy every day life in America where everyone expects them to just pick up and resume where they were before they left. Meanwhile they had a life changing experience. They feel left behind and unsure how to cope with this fast moving world. They lose the brothers they had in the service. Their old friends don't get it. Nobody gets it except those who have lived it.
Really? American society is a patriarchy. Men already have every freedom to "contribute" to society. Men CONTROL society. I'm not saying vets shouldn't get help when they return - of course they should. I just think it's a bit naive to think that men 'don't get to have power" once they return.
SoSuave Tips , that makes a lot more sense than other explanations. I just feel the feminization of our culture is compounding the problem. I remember working construction and landscaping after high school in order to save and pay for college.
It was a separate life track than most college students who stayed in school their entire lives and never paid for their way. I hated dorm life and the rah rah atmosphere and spent most of my time hanging out with teachers, working adults or with students who were from working class backgrounds. College was a joke in terms of maturity levels and a waste of time for many students who simply drank, played video games, and downloaded all their homework off the internet.
So I imagine the transition is even greater for a vet who takes on much more responsibility and has to mature much faster than a civilian. I’m not sure what to say in terms of career advice but some of the best teachers I had were military vets. Especially if they were teaching military history. And some of the best police officers, doctors, small business owners, and businesses leaders are all military vets.
Finally Vice some descent reporting
It is only fair. Programs like this need to exist. 👍
I am very glad to see them trying methods such as this
I wonder do they still get put on hold for 500hrs when calling the VA
Support, treatment, rehabilitation. This is how jails work in most well-functioning countries. This is such an obvious approach to incarceration. Just roll this out to all inmates. Jail is not about punishment, it's about helping people be better citizens.
That's dope, keep making veteran videos VICE!!
They should do this to ALL INMATES not just Vets..im sure if you treat everyone like this alot more people will be able to get back into society,work & help out.im not saying this is a bad Idea but why just Vets? Im thankful they served our country but they need to try this with all "Jails & inmates....
Not possible with a lot of the inmates these days. Most are gang involved or violent crimes.
Andrew's Theories so are this guys...why do you think they are loocked up? Not for acting Nice..oh wait nevermind this guys are white so it does not count they deserve this and more lol
Michael, if you go back to drugs I'll be disappointed but just remember you have a support group and don't forget to ask for help when you need it. We all need it sometimes.
He didn’t ❤️
I like it. The knowingly volunteered to serve without realizing the side effects of skewing their formative adulthood years. The military hammers in a necessary lifestyle that some people are naturally unable to do by themselves. They were also taught how to survive in dangerous & violent situations while becoming addicted to either the comradery which was missing in their youth or the adrenaline of war. Either way it's easy to see someone being lost without structure and easily falling victim to another addiction, acting out to gain acceptance, or the disassociation from the general public who cannot understand the close relationships of soldiers. Call it special treatment, but it's deserved for the sacrifice
I was there it saved my life!!!!
Oh shit this was my old home town. I used to go fishing across from that jail and always wondered what was going on in there. Glad to see they’re doing something like this.
Whoa, I seen that prison in person( outside). I had no idea!!
I myself served and I'm glad this program exists. Many... Sadly.. Don't ask for help😔
Why the special treatment? There are people out there suffering from the same mental illness and trauma. Why are those people being put into a system that doesn't rehabilitate and make them worse when they get out? If this gets extended to all prisoners I will agree, however if this is just a veteran program even after proven success then America still has a long way to go.
The veterans have a large amount of people mostly veterans themselves who are willing to be unpaid volunteers to make the program possible. Why don’t people that experienced trauma that didn’t join the military want to help people like themselves for free in large enough numbers to have free programs?
Andrew Huckstable: we spend twice as much on veteran benefits than we do education in our national budget.
Great idea.
Great story, more of this please!
This is so necessary and progressive. I hope they consider similar programs for other offenders who could benefit from rehabilitation
This is prison done right. Now you need to do this with the rest of the inmates. C'mon USA, you're growing up! Heeeyyy you're making your first steps to being less inhumane and more like freedom!
This should be the standard across the country.
Thank you for your service.
This is the stuff that made Vice. Wish there was more stuff like this on their feed than blatant lefty propaganda.
Yup. everything you disagree with is propaganda.
Old-Beanz yeah I feel you I liked their old hard hitting real stuff not this bullshit they are pushing now this feels like some of the og stuff
Old-Beanz; damn I miss the old Vice comments section before everyone wouldn’t shut up about politics
LOL wouldn't this qualify as blatant lefty propaganda? trying to get criminals the help they need? tard alert
+Mcnugget Man he literally just fucking said that this isn't lefty propoganda. The stuff they do now is. reading comprehension much? Who's the tard now? Because it clearly isn't him
"experimental"....oh you mean Leavenworth?
Joe Joe, you know that's for the shit birds.
This wouldn’t be necessary if vets were taken care of before and after leaving the service. After serving a decade and 4 tours I was given 3 days to clear post and figure out the rest of my life. 30 days after going home I was arrested for drugs and given 5 years that I did everyday of. This program shows that the people creating these programs should be running the VA and majority of the government.
How about helping members of our military before they get to a point in life that lands them in prison....I'm all for this program dont get me wrong but I believe we shkild be doing more before it gets to this point
See this is proof that everyone is different, you cant teach or deal with everyone in the same way.
This is Michaels fiancé and I just wanted everyone to know that he’s finally turned his life around and he’s literally doing amazing. ❤️
I wonder what happened to him. I really hope he is well and successful.
It's understanding everyone differently
I really hope they take into consideration what that professor said and really make this work our veterans put their lives at risk to keep us free. Had to watch their friends give up their lives so they and us could be free. Had to serve and be a part of some missions that were probably very traumatic and none of us civilians could have handled. And then when they get back not only do we forget about them but worse yet the US government isn't there for them could you imagine risking all of that. Losing friends limbs. Your sanity to keep a country safe and then turn around and get ignored once you're home. No help for the mental stress you now carry and the potential for little things like loud noises to fling you straight back into the middle of a war (in your head).
Just think about it. Of everyone could spare like $100 (obviously if you can't do that and that's understandable rn. You can donate whatever money or just your time build houses work at soup kitchens. There is a lot go look.
This is amazing!!
Are they doing this for female vets as well? I'm just curious to see if they are also being offered this. My husband, fatherinlaw, and gandfathers served and I think this is a great idea.
Karen Nelson, sadly, I think this will be a thing in the near future.
People in these comments are truly under educated about prison systems and recidivism
This place seems better than actually being in the military
People do not understand that’s the way it should be for our vets. That they come home and sometimes are lost. We use these people, and they need this to get back on track with their own fellow military people.
It's not a surprising situation when the state of MA treats veterans like criminals. Ma is a police state that never forgives and will hold an arrest that ended in a dismissal 20 years prior against you in court. Since in MA in police logs they see all arrests without a date and without whether it was a conviction or not. I've seen Vets whom got in trouble as a kid, went in the service, served 20 years honorable with multiple combat tours, be treated like a habitual offender by police and court due to a criminal history 30 years prior. Yet, what do you expect from a police force whom wears a uniform the Nazis based their uniform off of.
This is so heart breaking for me to see our Nations hero’s behind bars.....sucks man
It’s good that they these rehabilitation centres can be applied to other groups of people as well
AHHHHHH!!!!!! WHY IS THIS NOT A THING!
Patricia Alteme it is lol
This is amazing, but why don’t they offer this to everyone? It’s not like other inmates don’t need this kind of rehabilitation..
Amorphous Photo this is the part that explain why only for vets 3:53 or people made a more willing choice. This vets are more easey to help
Person's rocking hella proper star neck tatts, I'd like to got to know this dude. He's hella proper respect mannerisms etc. Hope he fits what he needs.
Why does the government wait until they go to jail to help them?!!
We are all rooting for you michael!
There isnt enough programs or assistance for vets. Im a Army vet and homeless and too proud to ask for help and prob going to lead me behind bars. I would volunteer if one was available in Naples, Fl
Great idea - and great message that everyone should be getting this but start on effective group
I’m from New Hampshire in Billerica all the time never knew this was a thing
This is a very positive video.
They’ve been doing this in Omaha, Ne for a while now
This is how all jails, military AND civilian should be. Before you judge someone, just remember, you don't know their life story.
prisons were meant for rehabilitation, but now it's just for a free workforce. The prisons end up turning non violent small time criminals, into hardened ones, which means after they are let out, they will be right back in, What incentive do the prisons corpeoations have to rehabilitate? the goodness of their hearts? yeah, because corporations are known to act in the best interest of the people.
Imagine you sitting down someone goes up to you and whispers
“Do you have a shave chit”but sarge
My brother guarded poppy fields, he was ordered to and when he was asked he was told this is there way of life. He's all fucked up from bad stuff he's seen too.
This isn't new at all. A veteran's mod has been doing this in the San Diego vista detention facility for over 15 years.
I got arrested twice for trying to assault someone. The VA finally decided to do something after the fact.
Great video vice.
I live near Billerica this is a awesome idea I didn’t even know about this
This is incredible! Especially for the US.
Federal Prisons need to also be setup for this type of program.
Its a good start but maybe the military should offer and direct veterans to similar services outside of jail before they have to go through even more hardship before being offered this help
Omg Michael Person, I know you. Im so sorry dude. If anyone else reads this, I knew him when he was in the service. I never even imagined I would see him in a UA-cam video. I doubt he would want to talk to me again, when he got out I was supposed to call him, but I didn't. I was going through through a rough time as well, but he was going through even worse.
This is his girl and he’s doing great and he’d love to talk to you. My name is the same on Facebook! Reach out if you see this
A lot of these vets are fucked up because of what they saw during their deployment and they need mental help they never received to actually not be on drugs it’s fucked yo they deserve that help they put everything on the line for us
He never did drugs or struggled with the law prior to deployment
customized prison, there is so many prison now it is diversifying to create value.
Now lets see rehabilitation for the rest of our American inmates
This is excellent.
Excellent idea.
As a veteran I like this.
I thought it said Experimental Jail for VEGETARIANS. I clicked, I was wrong.
The experimental jail should be a lump sum payment of a million dollars, "thanks for serving the country and not its CEOs." Would eliminate all crimes post service.
Thee guys obviously need structure, and regiment. Going fully away from this causes confusion and they’re just lost.
Totally support the idea, if only they'd so the same for civilians
It's almost like reform instead of punishment actually works
These poor guys have to go to jail to get the help they should get after the military....why this is a great idea this also really pisses me off that they have to go to jail to get help...
They should be housed separately
I wish that kid the best.
Prison is about reform. This is what ALL prisons are suppose to be about.
sounds like Henry from goodfellas
_Not_ having a return-to-The-World system for the forces is stupid, because prison and rehabilitation are so expensive. If you have a cynical mind, the current bad system might be related to the party donors who make big money off of private prisons.