This reminds me of that WW2 meme discussing doctrine. Germany: “The reason why the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis.” Soviet Union: “One of the serious problems in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals nor do the feel any obligations to follow their own doctrine.” Then there’s America. America: “IF WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE ENEMY CERTAINLY CAN’T ANTICIPATE OUR FUCKING ACTIONS.” The United Terran Government decided to universally adopt old America’s doctrine when it comes to intergalactic war. It has yet to fail them.
@@BSV518 And don't piss off Canadians. Shortly after D-Day, what was left of three companies ( approximately 40 men out of 390 ) were told to take a strongpoint. They did. When relief arrived the officer in charge asked where the rest of the men were ( about 20 left ). Them: We're it. Officer: Where is you officer? Them: Dead. Officer: NCOs? Them: Dead. Officer: Who is commanding? Them: Corporal [ his name ]. Officer: Why did you keep attacking? Them: We were told you needed this chateau.
You didnt right down the entire rule. Listen to your commanders unless they issue Illegal, Unethical, or Immoral orders. Look to the extreme things list for example for illegal, Unethical, or Immoral orders and what to do when order to do such.
Your commander is the guy with the most stripes in your line of sight. Baring that, the loudest voice you recognize. All battles are "Sargents Battles" after 10 minutes of engagement. Remember that in all battle plans, the enemy gets a vote. Also, close air support coverith a myriad of sins.
Don't forget "A Sergeant in motion outranks a Lieutenant that doesn't know what's going on." And, "An Ordinance Technician at a dead run outranks everybody."
As the author of the universe, it is far more exciting than that. Humanity is less a nation and more so a clective group of states that have agreed the xenos that are finicky are far more worrying than each other. So no two battle commanders use the same tactics, and even then, no two ship commanders follow those tactics the same way. Point your guns at the bad guys, and communicate with your team. Of communications are down, see rule one.
@@alonedoughnut Ah, so you were keeping the "fractious species" model and allowing it to play out - without the xenos actually understanding that they were witnessing different subgroups of Humans who commit to battle in entirely different ways?
@@alonedoughnut I wonder what the Naval Tacticians would say if they actually got to listen in to human comms? "Ah telye, Ad'mral, ya gotta choot em'er snek in th'head, y'heer? Gotta do 'at firs'n'formos', now!" "... Was... Was that even English, Captain Beauregard?!" "CHARGE!! YEEEEEE-HAW!" "Wait! No! Stop! Oh bollocks... Well, they know we're here now... I guess we're going with a Banzai charge, lads!"
The only way to defeat an unpredictable enemy is to be unpredictable yourself. You cannot cut lines of supply where there are none, you cannot take territory that does not exist. Truly, only a nomadic species could hope to survive, and if you can survive, you can win.
Look, the tradition of yee-haw is a long and glorious one. Muddling through, making shit up, taking a third option, whatever you want to call it, is a tradition upon which nations have been formed upon.
Exerpt from a Soviet briefing document sent to ground forces in the former East Germany, regarding how Nato armies will react: The Canadians are known to be unorthodox, and innovative. It isn't that they don't follow the rule book, it's that they haven't even read it.
idk about the Canadians but there are some quotes about the US like that "The reason the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices it on a daily basis." - from a post-war debriefing of a German General "One of the serious problems in planning against american doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine" - Soviet observation during the Cold War
Same for the US as my dad told me how he was yelled at by a former Soviet Army intel officer when the cold war ended about the US doing the same thing.
@@UnbridledResolve to late i already know how brutal you guys were and if i remember correctly WWI was worse than WWII what with that one unit that planed and fooled the Germans into thinking they were nice by throwing canned food across no mans land only to one day throw grenades instead
we follow the moral rule: don't target civilians in any way, shape, or form Disregard above rule if enemy xenos targets a civilian center, scorched earth and salt the fields policy recommended
Cut off the Supply Lines. Destroy all Command and Control. Attack with Shock, Maneuver, and Firepower. Overwhelming Massed Firepower from beyond visual range. These are but the simplest lessons of the Art of War. These any child knows, but the true students of War know, that in the Fog of War, Chaos rules and to Win, you must be One with the Chaos, You must be Chaos. As in the end, only Chaos will save the most lives of those who can not fight.
Ballistic weapons are amplifiers of this rule of war. Capable of both killing quickly and slowly, causing great damage to the body, the resulting logistical drain and psychological effect ballistic weapons (especially those with a bayonet) can have on the enemy only serve to amplify the effects of the chaos of war.
It was taught to me as "Projecting Chaos". The reason no plan survives contact with the enemy is that the interaction of those opposing plans creates Chaos in both; if your plan says that when SHTF you are to react with certain muscle memory ingrained drills and then take broad stroke actions to roll with and the chaos, your then able to project even more chaos into the enemy.
There is no honor in war, only passion Through passion, we gain the strenght to surview the fight. Through strengh we get the power to overcome our enemy. Through power we gain victory. Through victory our enemy is broken.
@@julonkrutor4649 Did you perhaps mean ‘survive’ rather than ‘surview’? Otherwise I quite agree. The Battle of 73 Easting was won by tactics, training, and audacity. Had the Iraqis swapped hardware with the Americans, the outcome would have been the same, though probably with more casualties on the American side.
"Honor. This thing that cannot be seen, weighed or measured, yet you only know you possess it when another tells you so. Usually when asking your favor without payment. Honor is what you pray your enemies possess, so they're that much easier to kill. "
How to beat humans? Take the lessons they might be willing to teach you. Ensure your ship cannot be decapitated by killing a single system, or focusing fire on a single point. Ensure that you do not let your arrogance blind you as to the threat of your foe, no matter how small and weak they may seem. And most important of all. Always asume your battle plan will not go the way you expect it to, make contingencies. Drill those contingencies into your fleet, and make sure to add new ones as new possible situations arrise.
And always. Always. Never just prepare a Plan B, prepare as much as possible. *The battle is not lost until you have used up all your (viable) options*
Humans have strategies that are traditional, however since we are always fighting ourselves our tactics are generated, tested and refined in an astonishing speed. Not only that but also the traditional strategies get refined, adapt and improvised making them better.
Hey, a story that remembers that mounting a bridge on the outside of a combat starship would be monumentally stupid. Too much sci-fi loves the drama of exposed command centers, forgetting that blue water navies had bridges because you needed to see the battlefield and what your ship and crew were doing. But the invention of the CIC concept by the USN in the Second World War soon made a bridge only good for navigation, and in space you don't even need that as human senses cannot possibly measure the insanely vast distances and velocities. Also love the use of xenos.
I wrote this because I hated the trope of the exposed bridge. This was my subtle jab at those ideas, that even though human ships used "outdated" weapons, their ability to cut off the chain of the command by attacking an unconventional target would make them truly intimidating. Do you adapt to this new standard of warfare, or keep the tradition?
@@felop1187 if they attack humans or humans' allies then they should be afraid for I remember a story about that and the Humans after learning that their allies were attacked gave a smile and severed all communication. Soon after all those who didn't want to be caught in the crossfire stepped aside, the humans send a message to the enemy aliens "-run-". Of course they didn't listen to the warning and ended up destroyed and ended up running away afterwards. And the humans chased them. Then send another message "-surrender-". Moral of the story: don't provoke humans or other alien species that considered friends of humans. It won't end well for you.
You beat the humans by attacking with overwhelming force blockading their planets and other major civilian installation and absolutely do nothing that humans consider atrocities.
@@hunterv9983 no humanity will show what atrocities truly are. Reminds me of an hfy where xeno privateers killed a field trip group so humanity destroyed all of their planets but kept a few alive as a living history of why you don't make humanity show you what a war crime really is.
As Helmuth von Moltke the Elder would say: "No plan of operations reaches with any certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main force." Learn to be adaptable. Never have a single plan.
A CIC (Combat Information Center) just makes sense. I was a groundpounder but grew up in a career Navy family. When we would visit Pops on the ship he was on I would get to see stuff. I got to see the CIC a few times and even in the 80's and 90's it looked like science fiction with all the different stations and big screens in a big, dark room. So cool to me even now, lol.
Ah, good ol' fashion submariner style warfare... where half the time you only have a simple ping telling you where you're enemy is, thus you need to blindly guess where they are going to be.
Seems like an efficient design for a ship, touring USS Iowa the command centers were well armored, the bridges more designed for between battles. Seems popular culture favors bridges for Movies and TV though exception being BSG.
"fear not the best or second best, but the worst, for you don't know what the fucking idiot's gonna do.. with exception to humanity. Humanity is so unpredictable that they can outwit the best in any ring"
in truth putting the bridge in the center of a ship might not be any more safe than having it external, the outer hull is going to be stronger than the internal, and one explosive round is going to pressure pop the center, having multiple decoy bridges tight to the hull, or better yet, make them all fully fledged bridges, and spead the command staff between them with a clear command chain in place.
A bridge on the outside is easily recognized visually. Which is why it being inside the ship is better also the enemy weapons would have to go through more to get into it. They would probably have a very redundant ship design so it would probably be sealed should the outer hull be breached also you can put more armor between the bridge and the outside hull making it so the enemy would have to break through multiple armor plates.
And added fact that in a pinch, each critical system can be made into a control center, such as the engine room, in most sci-fis. The pressure bubble could be fixed after battle, with crew donning vac suits to negate an explosive decompression. I also tend to believe that if the hull is punctured by something possessing that much force to crack the armor or melt it, you either have enough time to don a suit or you are dead already with everyone else in that room. (Think this was Mass Effect that stated this, could have been in other sci-fis) Bomb-pumped lasers warheads, X-ray lasers, and KEWs are all powerful. But if one thing humans have learned, it is design. When we actively had naval combat in real life, we developed designs that were meant to mitigate shells penetrating with an armor belt around the critical ship systems. Sure, that shell had the force to breach armor and do some damage and maybe kill crew, but if that shell did not have enough to penetrate the interior armor belt around the boilers, no big kablooey. Even if it did, crew in affected areas that often took on water from such a hit either had the time to evacuate or were drowned or crushed already by the water pressure. (Note, this for surface vessels. If holed in a sub, pretty sure you are dead anyways)
It's actually very simple, something taught to me as an Architectural engineer that applies no matter what you are building. Redundancy, redundancy, redundancy. A good engineer understands that everything on such a ship has backups and redundancies. It's why many modern vessels of war can take an insane pounding and still limp back to port, and you can bet your last dollar we'd do it in space too. On a ship of war? Every single room better have an emergency pressure sealing system. Yes, even the bloody bathrooms. If you're dropping a deuce, you better know the entrance will pressure seal if it pops. One explosive round hits? You pop one, maybe two rooms. If one explosive can pop the ship you designed, you are the worst ship designer in the history of ever and should be blacklisted from future design projects for life. Interior hull armor? if that's not at least half the strength of the outer hull armor using a dual layered cross beam interior stud construction to protect from impact and disperse force properly then you're skimping on materials and better hang your head in shame because you are no ship engineer. Oh, and critical systems better be surrounded by no less than 2/3rds exterior hull plate strength armor because that crap is important and the military would toss you out of the airlock if you skimp there. So, the center of the ship is going to be the safest place for the bridge, because it is surrounded by pressure locks, layer upon layer of armor plating and defensive redundancies that would make the layman say it was over-engineered to hell, but most whose engineering work focuses on architecture and structural integrity have a saying. "If normal people think it's satisfactory, it's not done enough. When they think you over-engineered it, THEN can you be sure you've done your job."
Alien 1: The greatest honor is to die for your government!. Alien 2: No!. The greatest honor is to die for your species. Alien 3: Better to die on your feet, than on your knees. Human: *flashback/PTSD to past wars* Honor is great and all, but winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. So cheat like a motherf%#×er!.
It’s simply shoot em in the head, if a an enemy ship has a command center a a crucial part to its decision making process, hit it really really hard with something really big and really fast
Perhapse in the future human ship will be like that but I have doubt, presently all marine vessel have a bridge and its very noticiable, they have secondary and in some case a third one inside the vessel but the commander is still in the one exposed...
I don't understand. How can a species wage war without even considering aiming at the command center of the enemy? That should be common sense to any war between any intellifente species XD.
Funny that the aliens are using Star Wars/Star Trek type bridges and the story is about how humans don't.....um, just don't look at our old media, some of us used to think we would.
And THAT is the single biggest thing I laugh at in both Star Trek and Star Wars, as well as many other sci-fi spacecraft. All of those extremely exposed bridges. A necessity in a water navy, an incredible stupidity in a space navy. Why would you broadcast where your command and control is located?
This reminds me of that WW2 meme discussing doctrine.
Germany: “The reason why the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis.”
Soviet Union: “One of the serious problems in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals nor do the feel any obligations to follow their own doctrine.”
Then there’s America.
America: “IF WE DON’T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING, THE ENEMY CERTAINLY CAN’T ANTICIPATE OUR FUCKING ACTIONS.”
The United Terran Government decided to universally adopt old America’s doctrine when it comes to intergalactic war. It has yet to fail them.
Also, don't kill American military officers
They are there for the safety of their soldiers and yours
@@BSV518 And don't piss off Canadians.
Shortly after D-Day, what was left of three companies ( approximately 40 men out of 390 ) were told to take a strongpoint. They did. When relief arrived the officer in charge asked where the rest of the men were ( about 20 left ).
Them: We're it.
Officer: Where is you officer?
Them: Dead.
Officer: NCOs?
Them: Dead.
Officer: Who is commanding?
Them: Corporal [ his name ].
Officer: Why did you keep attacking?
Them: We were told you needed this chateau.
The only rules of modern human warfare are "listen to your commanders", and "this is the list of things that are too extreme to do"
"Don't shoot the civvies".
@@deathhog thats part of the extreme things list
You didnt right down the entire rule.
Listen to your commanders unless they issue Illegal, Unethical, or Immoral orders.
Look to the extreme things list for example for illegal, Unethical, or Immoral orders and what to do when order to do such.
Your commander is the guy with the most stripes in your line of sight. Baring that, the loudest voice you recognize.
All battles are "Sargents Battles" after 10 minutes of engagement.
Remember that in all battle plans, the enemy gets a vote.
Also, close air support coverith a myriad of sins.
Don't forget "A Sergeant in motion outranks a Lieutenant that doesn't know what's going on." And, "An Ordinance Technician at a dead run outranks everybody."
13:13 *"If we don't know what we're doing, the enemy certainly can't anticipate our future actions!"* - someone said, at some point, probably.
"The enemy doesnt know what we are doing....
Hell we dont know either."
Some general who by a miracle won somehow. 🤣
As the author of the universe, it is far more exciting than that. Humanity is less a nation and more so a clective group of states that have agreed the xenos that are finicky are far more worrying than each other. So no two battle commanders use the same tactics, and even then, no two ship commanders follow those tactics the same way.
Point your guns at the bad guys, and communicate with your team. Of communications are down, see rule one.
@@alonedoughnut Ah, so you were keeping the "fractious species" model and allowing it to play out - without the xenos actually understanding that they were witnessing different subgroups of Humans who commit to battle in entirely different ways?
@@ObservingLibertarian Bingo
@@alonedoughnut I wonder what the Naval Tacticians would say if they actually got to listen in to human comms?
"Ah telye, Ad'mral, ya gotta choot em'er snek in th'head, y'heer? Gotta do 'at firs'n'formos', now!"
"... Was... Was that even English, Captain Beauregard?!"
"CHARGE!! YEEEEEE-HAW!"
"Wait! No! Stop! Oh bollocks... Well, they know we're here now... I guess we're going with a Banzai charge, lads!"
The only way to defeat an unpredictable enemy is to be unpredictable yourself. You cannot cut lines of supply where there are none, you cannot take territory that does not exist. Truly, only a nomadic species could hope to survive, and if you can survive, you can win.
If war is chaos then we practice it. 🤣
sooo Vietnam.
Look, the tradition of yee-haw is a long and glorious one. Muddling through, making shit up, taking a third option, whatever you want to call it, is a tradition upon which nations have been formed upon.
A xeno trying to predict human tactics is like a normal person trying to predict what Robin Williams will say next.
Exerpt from a Soviet briefing document sent to ground forces in the former East Germany, regarding how Nato armies will react:
The Canadians are known to be unorthodox, and innovative. It isn't that they don't follow the rule book, it's that they haven't even read it.
idk about the Canadians but there are some quotes about the US like that
"The reason the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices it on a daily basis." - from a post-war debriefing of a German General
"One of the serious problems in planning against american doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine" - Soviet observation during the Cold War
Same for the US as my dad told me how he was yelled at by a former Soviet Army intel officer when the cold war ended about the US doing the same thing.
I'm asking as a Canadian, don't read up on Canada's part of WW2. Please and thank you.
@@UnbridledResolve to late i already know how brutal you guys were and if i remember correctly WWI was worse than WWII what with that one unit that planed and fooled the Germans into thinking they were nice by throwing canned food across no mans land only to one day throw grenades instead
But Americans they write manuals and run training exercises as a disinformation campaign.
we follow the moral rule: don't target civilians in any way, shape, or form
Disregard above rule if enemy xenos targets a civilian center, scorched earth and salt the fields policy recommended
Cut off the Supply Lines. Destroy all Command and Control. Attack with Shock, Maneuver, and Firepower. Overwhelming Massed Firepower from beyond visual range. These are but the simplest lessons of the Art of War. These any child knows, but the true students of War know, that in the Fog of War, Chaos rules and to Win, you must be One with the Chaos, You must be Chaos. As in the end, only Chaos will save the most lives of those who can not fight.
In war chaos is love chaos is life chaos….is….GOD!!!! 😂
Ballistic weapons are amplifiers of this rule of war. Capable of both killing quickly and slowly, causing great damage to the body, the resulting logistical drain and psychological effect ballistic weapons (especially those with a bayonet) can have on the enemy only serve to amplify the effects of the chaos of war.
It was taught to me as "Projecting Chaos". The reason no plan survives contact with the enemy is that the interaction of those opposing plans creates Chaos in both; if your plan says that when SHTF you are to react with certain muscle memory ingrained drills and then take broad stroke actions to roll with and the chaos, your then able to project even more chaos into the enemy.
And this is what happens when people hold onto the idea of honorable combat.
honor is a privelage of the strong. a privelage you cant indulge in if you're dead.
There is no honor in war, only passion Through passion, we gain the strenght to surview the fight. Through strengh we get the power to overcome our enemy. Through power we gain victory. Through victory our enemy is broken.
@@julonkrutor4649 Did you perhaps mean ‘survive’ rather than ‘surview’? Otherwise I quite agree. The Battle of 73 Easting was won by tactics, training, and audacity. Had the Iraqis swapped hardware with the Americans, the outcome would have been the same, though probably with more casualties on the American side.
"Honor. This thing that cannot be seen, weighed or measured, yet you only know you possess it when another tells you so. Usually when asking your favor without payment. Honor is what you pray your enemies possess, so they're that much easier to kill. "
@@TheGeorgeAtkisson Now i had to look up the battle ... That was not a fair fight ^^
How to beat humans? Take the lessons they might be willing to teach you. Ensure your ship cannot be decapitated by killing a single system, or focusing fire on a single point. Ensure that you do not let your arrogance blind you as to the threat of your foe, no matter how small and weak they may seem. And most important of all. Always asume your battle plan will not go the way you expect it to, make contingencies. Drill those contingencies into your fleet, and make sure to add new ones as new possible
situations arrise.
And always. Always.
Never just prepare a Plan B, prepare as much as possible.
*The battle is not lost until you have used up all your (viable) options*
And in times of desperation, viability is optional.
Pile up contingency options. Plan B/1/xyz
Humans have strategies that are traditional, however since we are always fighting ourselves our tactics are generated, tested and refined in an astonishing speed. Not only that but also the traditional strategies get refined, adapt and improvised making them better.
Then there is always that famous line, No plan survives contact with the enemy.
@@ShiroNekoDen ...is the way we react to the battle that will determine if we win or lose it.
Oh hey, there is my name!
great story!
Good job
Very interesting story
There this weird sex joke that i think about more than your need to know. "Your the doughnut to his banana" it's a gay one and it's weird
Good writing, dude!
Hey, a story that remembers that mounting a bridge on the outside of a combat starship would be monumentally stupid. Too much sci-fi loves the drama of exposed command centers, forgetting that blue water navies had bridges because you needed to see the battlefield and what your ship and crew were doing. But the invention of the CIC concept by the USN in the Second World War soon made a bridge only good for navigation, and in space you don't even need that as human senses cannot possibly measure the insanely vast distances and velocities.
Also love the use of xenos.
I wrote this because I hated the trope of the exposed bridge. This was my subtle jab at those ideas, that even though human ships used "outdated" weapons, their ability to cut off the chain of the command by attacking an unconventional target would make them truly intimidating. Do you adapt to this new standard of warfare, or keep the tradition?
@@alonedoughnut
Depends on whether ya like losing or not. ;)
They can't steal that sock, it's the only one I have left!
What's funny is that we have a rule book.
But it's spiritual and mental, also the book of war as well.
Rule 1 for fighting humans: don’t target civilians
Rule 2: expect the unexpected
Rule 3: read rules 1 and 2
Rule 4: you don’t wanna know what rule 4 is
😈😈
I disagree, he's my list:
Rule one for fighting humans: Don't fight humans
Rule two for fighting humans: If attacked by humans enlist more humans.
If a xeno target human civilians, destroying their entire homeworld is adivced
@@felop1187 if they attack humans or humans' allies then they should be afraid for I remember a story about that and the Humans after learning that their allies were attacked gave a smile and severed all communication. Soon after all those who didn't want to be caught in the crossfire stepped aside, the humans send a message to the enemy aliens "-run-".
Of course they didn't listen to the warning and ended up destroyed and ended up running away afterwards. And the humans chased them. Then send another message "-surrender-".
Moral of the story: don't provoke humans or other alien species that considered friends of humans. It won't end well for you.
@@UnbridledResolve rule 3, do not screw over the humans you enlisted
@@PrimordialNyx oh yeah I remember that one, don't remember what it's called though
If we don’t know what we’re doing the enemy certainly doesnt
You beat the humans by attacking with overwhelming force blockading their planets and other major civilian installation and absolutely do nothing that humans consider atrocities.
Yes. Because if you do engage in what those Humans consider atrocities, you will find unrelenting force coming towards you.
@@hunterv9983 no humanity will show what atrocities truly are. Reminds me of an hfy where xeno privateers killed a field trip group so humanity destroyed all of their planets but kept a few alive as a living history of why you don't make humanity show you what a war crime really is.
@@N1korasu
That's what I said. "Unrelenting force."
Did you just thinks bout harming our civilians back in their home-planets?
*GENEVA SUGGESTION LIST ADDED*
“*WAR CRIMES IT IS! COWABUNGA*”
@@N1korasu what story is this? Sounds interesting
The best battle is the one you do not have to fight -- truly the value of a reputation.
As Helmuth von Moltke the Elder would say:
"No plan of operations reaches with any certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main force."
Learn to be adaptable. Never have a single plan.
indeed
A CIC (Combat Information Center) just makes sense. I was a groundpounder but grew up in a career Navy family. When we would visit Pops on the ship he was on I would get to see stuff. I got to see the CIC a few times and even in the 80's and 90's it looked like science fiction with all the different stations and big screens in a big, dark room. So cool to me even now, lol.
Adapt, improvise, and overcome.
'Professional soldiers are predictable. Unfortunately, wars are full of dangerous amateurs.'
Think I care about the nanite swarm stealing one of my socks? I'll just stop wearing them, what now?
You better be careful they might steal all your pants and your internet connection next.
@@erikmckoul2478 hmmm... Which will they steal first?
@@Flarflenugen It's up to them I have no say in this. lol
A yes, I'm a mantlejet thank you for being welcoming my good sir
FINALLY SOMEONE FUCKING NOTICED THE BLARING WEAKNESS AND WROTE A STORY BOUT IT, IVE HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH EVERY SCIFI MOVIE
Ah, good ol' fashion submariner style warfare... where half the time you only have a simple ping telling you where you're enemy is, thus you need to blindly guess where they are going to be.
Chaos can be truly beautiful.
Seems like an efficient design for a ship, touring USS Iowa the command centers were well armored, the bridges more designed for between battles.
Seems popular culture favors bridges for Movies and TV though exception being BSG.
Algorithm enhancement for properly protected command centers.
For the algorithm
If I don’t know what I’m doing. Then they don’t know what I’ll do
I've heard that the best swordsman fears not the second-best. The best fears the worst, because there's no way to know what that idiot will do.
For the Author(s), for the narrator Agro Squirrel, for the algorithm !!!
Bless the Squerril
???What are socks???? It's life at the beach season!
Greetings Mentlegent!
For the rhythm that is Algo
This isn't Chaos Theory, it's Chaos Fact!
And the humans would reply, "Hey it works! Its the results that count.
This channel and narrator is so underrated…
Glad you are enjoying the content
Pretty brilliant really - all around
"fear not the best or second best, but the worst, for you don't know what the fucking idiot's gonna do.. with exception to humanity. Humanity is so unpredictable that they can outwit the best in any ring"
When you realize humanity has 26 plans or 52 (with doubles).
Its called improvising. You see, if we don't know what we are doing, then the enemy certainly doesn't either.
For the Chaos
Bob The Dragón is legendary
if you got no plan then there is no plan to fail therefore you cannot fail if you got no plan
If command is dead, no one can say no
in truth putting the bridge in the center of a ship might not be any more safe than having it external, the outer hull is going to be stronger than the internal, and one explosive round is going to pressure pop the center, having multiple decoy bridges tight to the hull, or better yet, make them all fully fledged bridges, and spead the command staff between them with a clear command chain in place.
A bridge on the outside is easily recognized visually. Which is why it being inside the ship is better also the enemy weapons would have to go through more to get into it. They would probably have a very redundant ship design so it would probably be sealed should the outer hull be breached also you can put more armor between the bridge and the outside hull making it so the enemy would have to break through multiple armor plates.
@@hirokasonova7059 also, secondary bridges, CiC separated from the bridge itself, local command chains,...
And added fact that in a pinch, each critical system can be made into a control center, such as the engine room, in most sci-fis. The pressure bubble could be fixed after battle, with crew donning vac suits to negate an explosive decompression.
I also tend to believe that if the hull is punctured by something possessing that much force to crack the armor or melt it, you either have enough time to don a suit or you are dead already with everyone else in that room. (Think this was Mass Effect that stated this, could have been in other sci-fis) Bomb-pumped lasers warheads, X-ray lasers, and KEWs are all powerful. But if one thing humans have learned, it is design.
When we actively had naval combat in real life, we developed designs that were meant to mitigate shells penetrating with an armor belt around the critical ship systems. Sure, that shell had the force to breach armor and do some damage and maybe kill crew, but if that shell did not have enough to penetrate the interior armor belt around the boilers, no big kablooey. Even if it did, crew in affected areas that often took on water from such a hit either had the time to evacuate or were drowned or crushed already by the water pressure. (Note, this for surface vessels. If holed in a sub, pretty sure you are dead anyways)
It's actually very simple, something taught to me as an Architectural engineer that applies no matter what you are building. Redundancy, redundancy, redundancy. A good engineer understands that everything on such a ship has backups and redundancies. It's why many modern vessels of war can take an insane pounding and still limp back to port, and you can bet your last dollar we'd do it in space too.
On a ship of war? Every single room better have an emergency pressure sealing system. Yes, even the bloody bathrooms. If you're dropping a deuce, you better know the entrance will pressure seal if it pops. One explosive round hits? You pop one, maybe two rooms. If one explosive can pop the ship you designed, you are the worst ship designer in the history of ever and should be blacklisted from future design projects for life. Interior hull armor? if that's not at least half the strength of the outer hull armor using a dual layered cross beam interior stud construction to protect from impact and disperse force properly then you're skimping on materials and better hang your head in shame because you are no ship engineer. Oh, and critical systems better be surrounded by no less than 2/3rds exterior hull plate strength armor because that crap is important and the military would toss you out of the airlock if you skimp there.
So, the center of the ship is going to be the safest place for the bridge, because it is surrounded by pressure locks, layer upon layer of armor plating and defensive redundancies that would make the layman say it was over-engineered to hell, but most whose engineering work focuses on architecture and structural integrity have a saying. "If normal people think it's satisfactory, it's not done enough. When they think you over-engineered it, THEN can you be sure you've done your job."
@@raeishimuraI'm glad that my obsession with redundancy is going to do me good as an aspiring engineer.
If we don't know what we are going to do, how will our enemies?
Enjoy your weekend 😊
Not the nannite swarms OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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There is no rules of war but guidelines they can be broken
Wait until we show the Xenos psychological and asymmetric warfare.
Alien 1: The greatest honor is to die for your government!.
Alien 2: No!. The greatest honor is to die for your species.
Alien 3: Better to die on your feet, than on your knees.
Human: *flashback/PTSD to past wars* Honor is great and all, but winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. So cheat like a motherf%#×er!.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making some other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - George Patton.
A planet where water doesnt freeze but icebergs exist. 🤔
Hello Alpharius, I too am Alpharius.
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It’s simply shoot em in the head, if a an enemy ship has a command center a a crucial part to its decision making process, hit it really really hard with something really big and really fast
We have tradition
Of chaos
You like that? Wait until we show you our shock doctrine 🤣
Perhapse in the future human ship will be like that but I have doubt, presently all marine vessel have a bridge and its very noticiable, they have secondary and in some case a third one inside the vessel but the commander is still in the one exposed...
Yo think you can do some audio books for me lol, I can tune into your voice for hours.
One thing a planet like this around a red dwarf are likley to be tidal locked to its star
"They prefered to stay out of conflict, and global affairs as a whole"
Since when is the universe a globe?
A fourth dimensional globe!
Wait till they learn of the American Revolution. Our militias championed these tactics.
Your actions cant be predicted if you dont know what youre doing
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noooooooo, my sock :(
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I don't understand.
How can a species wage war without even considering aiming at the command center of the enemy?
That should be common sense to any war between any intellifente species XD.
Hey where did my socks go.....
Ah yes chaos perfect
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Funny that the aliens are using Star Wars/Star Trek type bridges and the story is about how humans don't.....um, just don't look at our old media, some of us used to think we would.
But we do have a rule book these days. The US navy calls it diversity training.
It won't go well.
FTA
but war is cahos, it is unpredictable- tradition is not a virtue of war, but history is.
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And THAT is the single biggest thing I laugh at in both Star Trek and Star Wars, as well as many other sci-fi spacecraft. All of those extremely exposed bridges. A necessity in a water navy, an incredible stupidity in a space navy. Why would you broadcast where your command and control is located?
F.A.S.
Waaaagh!
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Excellent video as always
Another reason why star wars ships suck
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