Yamaha MODX 2.0 Update - How to get started with the new sequencer
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- Today we are taking a closer look at the new MODX 2.0 sequencer and I will try to teach you how to get started with it. If you enjoy it consider supporting my videos: / bobeats
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Another great video on the MODx. For song creators yes, this is the sequencing we like to do, playing our swings, rests, rhythms straight in on the keyboard with the timing we have in our head. Step sequencing is very difficult because we have to go back and edit, a very lengthy and frustrating process when we know we could just play it in. This is the way I sequenced in the 1980s and 1990's with hardware sequences, it was fun and very fast to build a song....though controlling loops was not possible back then, so all you could do is a linear song. (yes all this can be done on a computer, but I don't use computers anymore for making music. Hundreds of reasons why).
Ok, I said it when I bought my first AN1X back in the 90s and I say it again. Yamaha is constantly surprising me and Iove their professional audio products! Appreciating Yamahas after market service as well.
Adding a 16 track sequencer to the Yamaha MODX6 has pushed me into the clarity of decision: I absolutely shall buy it! Thanks for the tutorial, Bo!
you’re welcome buddy!!
How do your u like it.
MODX seems like the best value for money synth on the market and especially now. It sounds great and it truly is a workstation with this update. Thx for the video Bo.
the UI is a little clunky but besides this its a very good value proposition. Lot of polyphony, sound design options and features for your money
I didn't even know this was coming! I just purchased the MODX7 two days ago, and now a sequencer is in the update! This keyboard just got more cool points.
GRAY FOX Ditto.
I really appreciate you starting off the video by saying how great it is that a company is supporting their existing products with feature updates. It truly is something we need to see more of. I was just responding to a comment on another video from someone who was "disappointed" that Yamaha released this update instead of making a CS-80 re-issue... WTF?
vegeta897 Yes, it’s a shame when companies turn into landfill product dumps instead of keeping they’re devices up to date.
Just saying there is a great free CS-80 patch library to download for the Montage/MODX from Yamaha :-)
I am so happy Yamaha gave us this update. 🤘
Even before this update the MODX was one of the best keyboards I have purchased in a long time. Very inspirational instrument for so little cash, a must for every studio.
Agree completely. Not much expense and very powerful.
still i thinking this about that,i buy MOD 8 or no ?....!
Nicolas Arianos you just can’t beat the Modx for the price it is just as good and some way better than the new Fantom at half the price. I know because I have both.
@@mattsynth thanks so much for your reply.... So is good to order one modx8...!
This is an excellent video Bo. It’s a great addition to the MODX, and you’ve done a fantastic job in communicating how to get great results.
Thank you Simon!!
The MODX7 is now officially on my shopping list once this update rolls around
You Are the first person to say it isn't available yet. I went looking for it before I found you and was greatly frustrated.
Thank you for your tutorial. I rmember watching you some while ago and learning from you. I did indeed manage to make my own pattern sequence, however there is a pretty big problem with all of this, and i'm sure you have come across this yourself. It is indeed a great idea to be able to record your own sequences, which I have done, not only with this machine but others too. This one is a tad more complicated even when you know exactly how to do it. Straight away the problem comes up where I have to link the pattern with the performance name, and no matter how many times anyone tries this, somewhere down the line they are going to get really frustrated and lose all of there work. The performance name is no problem, but then you link it to a pattern, 1 is already filled, so is 2, pattern 3 is completely empty, however when you try to link it decides to choose pattern 10 and not 3 or 4,5,6,7,8 or even 9, they get completely missed and possibly wasted which is something we don't want as we only have limited spaces. While I was frustratingly trying to place something into pattern 3, just as you did, I forgot to link and somehow lost my pattern inside the machine somewhere, when I did find it, it was maybe in position 10 again. The Roland FA06 is much staright forward in doing this and so much quicker too as are some of my other Keyboard/Synths. In order to record just one simple part on one track for a few seconds you have to go through many unessesary parameters and settings, if you accidentally forget just one then you are left scratching your head trying to fathom out at what point you madethe mistake. The Idea of a sequencer is really to get your ideas down quickly, in yet the MODX has come up with something that completely slows you down leaving you a little stressed and frustrated to the point of giving up or maybe using a completely different Synth altogether. This is not your fault I know and I can see that you have done a lot of hard work here, but I do wonder why Yamaha have made something that is prone to you making mistakes, especially when we have already learnt how to use something over and over and just simply want to make music and not spending most of that time programming. Anyhow, well done for the Tutorial and once again thank you.
Best Wishes Geoff
exactly my thoughts. on my quest to a decent keyboard with really quick multitrack recording to store ideas and flesh them out a bit before transferring to DAW I've come across the yamaha system (QY70, QY700, now MODX) and can't believe how frustratingly inefficient this system works, unchanged since the 90ies.
This is the problem i did struggle with as well.. changing patterns .. what i dont understand is. Yamaha only added this sequencer due to huge amount of customer requests, so they obviously didnt want to add one at first, as they are trying to push Cubase ... so Why make this messy confusion of a sequencer, why didnt Yamaha just use an updated version of the Motif XF sequencer
Thanks BoBeats, this is an excellent video. I was so put off by the idea of creating a song in different parts (scenes) and pushing buttons to move between them but now that I see it's possible to create a chain of these scenes and then play the scene, that changes my whole opinion. I'm supposing it's possible to include a scene several times in a chain, ex verse, chorus, verse, chorus etc.....
Thank you for creating an important video. As a new synthesizer user, I found that updates move good gear to very good or excellent status. Quality manuals and tutorials, however, make any product stand out by reducing the learning curve.
I'm waiting for the rack version MODX. Could be a looooong wait. You are a fine musician and equally fine communicator.
The workflow reminds of the RM-1X groovebox.
Cool, I’ll have a look at it tomorrow. Thanks, Bo!
First Yamaha synth ever after 30 yrs of playing. I'm growing to like this MODX....slowly as it has so much to learn. Thanks for the help with that Bo. Look forward to updating the OS soon.
Great work mate!
Thanks bud!!
finally, after years of complaints, yamaha puts a proper sequencer on their workstation/synths, like they did before.
i wish they fire the people who refused to have it om the montage and modx at launch.
I don't get it... Mine is with 1.0 firmware version yet(just bought it yesterday) and it does has a sequencer, just press REC button and it shows the 16 tracks... Why people say Modx has no built in sequencer???
But this is not a sequencer - it's Pattern mode - Yamaha has it in his keyboards since Mo/Mox/Moxf versions...
Not exactly a Roland step sequencer in easiness and use, but will get the job done. At least we have a sequencer. Excellent video. Thank you.
EXACTLY the overview, instruction, and clarification I needed!
You could not have done a better job for me if this was a direct personal response to the questions I had. Watched this video and was creating performances and tracks in minutes. Thank you very much.
Awesome tutorial.
Awesome new sequencer.
Its 2.52 now.
Thanks BoBeats.
Thanks for a clear step by step process for someone new to this. Very hard to find on UA-cam.
Thank you for creating this video and much respect to you and your expertise. Don’t take this as negative criticism. Firstly, I thought that you good job highlighting the points of this keyboard I thought you did a not so good job on the introduction of it and the very beginning process.
I don’t understand why you did not explain step-by-step from the very beginning? For somebody that’s really new to the idea of a sequencer or new to the MODX, it would be more confusing for them to start out in the middle. And then backtrack on the process. Step-by-step from the very beginning with a bad idea. Again, thank you for putting this out and much respect! 🙏
I purchased a QX 1 way back in 1983 after that I can handle any sequencer.
Write a book. Modx the manual for normal people 🤣
Great video Bo. .about time for yamaha to realize some musicians just like to use the machine slash keyboard they purchased without a computer. .
a much needed addition
How do we connect a mic and record vocals ?
This is great !
You make the same kind of music with the sequencer as I do. But on the Modx it sounds much better.
Thanks man! The MODX is even more of a beast now!!!
This fixes the one thing I thought was missing from the original version. It seems like a very nice update. Could certainly be improved though, if the sequencer had more visualization and note-editing functions to let people see and edit the note data.
Also perhaps notable is the new wave folder. If that does what I think it does, it's one of my favorite synth algorithms. Not that this instrument had any shortage of good sounds already... but still.
Pattern mode was really missing, glad it’s back.
im new to the modx, just got one, what does pattern mode do/mean?
Electric Images Australia you can record part of a song (intro, chorus, outro etc..) separetely and set these parts in a scene that you can call while listening to the music at a touch of a button. A traditional sequencer is linear, a pattern sequencer allows you to create blocks of music.
Roland Gerard Yeiiiih !!!!
Thanks B(r)o, just saw your video few hours ago and it helped me so much to push myself to start working with the sequencer ... thought it doesn't give me the right workflow ... but it does. Thank you so much ... I NEED MORE SCENE-BUTTONS NOW !!! CAN'T STOP !!! :-)))
Thanks for this Bo. I’m a long time Yamaha user motif and qy700, but found it difficult when I tried to use this for the first time on Montage yesterday,so this is very useful😊
awesome! :) glad to help
One cool thing is having 3 or 4 drum kits and playing different instruments on each, with some overlapping and use mute or the faders to perform with them once you’ve created your tracks. I do it with the OS.1, this is going to save me hours aaaand allow for way more things, tracks 9-16, Play FX... it’s great Yamaha has keeped up with the times and users feedback.
I was staring to have mixed feelings with my MODX. No more ^_^ now I’m REALLY glad !!
Splendid advice
BoBeats ^_^
Nice teacher you show slowly simple how it is working
Thankyou, such a handy video. I’m a keen EM composer and this has really helped. Cheers 😀
This type of sequencer may seems weird for people with experience from another synth/workstation platforms, but it's more productive for songwriting than classic linear type of sequencer. Typically, most of pop/rock/jazz songs has structure defined by intro, verses, choruses, bridges, maybe variation/modulation of these, and ending section. If I can write a song, I don't need remember, that my first verse is on 9th measure, chorus started on 17th, bridge is on 33 ... I can simply create pattern for every song section, and finally chain these components to song. Quick, easy and smart. Add or remove one chorus at the end is now really easy intuitive job, not math task with copy/paste/erase ... And, if I miss the note and correct it in one of sections, it will be reflected on the all sections of the same type in the song. Not every musician is a scientist ... most of them need only use synth for song writing as easy, as it is possible.
Hopefully I get this beast soon
Thanks so much Bo! Just got the MODX7 and love it.
great video - thanks! this plugs a gap in the modx's considerable arsenal. looking forward to trying this out when it lands.
Thanks! Very helpful after all the vague stuff I read in reviews.
Wow. Äntligen kommer det jag aldrig trodde skulle komma. Det är en av de största sakerna som fattats på en MODX och gör i mina ögon den enormt mycket bättre. Längtar så. Tack även för alla bra och inspirerande klipp du släppt.
Tack kompis! Jag håller med. Plötsligen känns denna synthen mycket mer värd.
Hi Bo, thanks for your helpful video 👍
Hi again, got the OS 2.0. Watched your video again......love the pattern mode🤗
Jeeze, I was about to trash my MODX! So glad this is finally coming out. Now if they would just hurry up and get it out for the rest of us
Should you change your mind and trash it anyway I have a trash bin that it will fit nicley in.
Great video...I didnt realize 2.0 was out so I downloaded, backed up my data, installed the update, restored my data and now I'm recording tracks with different scenes. I can use the scenes to switch from intro part of the song to verse to chorus and eventual to outro. I could not find a way to do this with the early versions of the software. Thanks so much!
thank you so much BoBeat for this video ! super clear and super useful ! you're a star !
The sequencer was a tipping point for a lot of people on this beastie.. Hopefully they'll add more features to it in future updates so I can give my poor old SY85 a rest (and an overhaul).
Great intro to the pattern sequencer, thanks a bunch, and I’m also a subscriber! 👍
Looks great. A good reason to buy this as you central piece of gear in the studio- master keyboard and sequencer now. I remember when I recorded a whole album using my w30 workstation sequencer. This is so much easier to see what you're doing!
Very good demo...I'm pleased they are adding this, as perhaps one of the reasons I hadn't already bought one...
I don't know, I still lean towards an Fa 08.. It just seems so simple....
But the modx sounds awesome..... 🙂
You are a blessing to me I'm learning so much from you, thanks again
You did well then there Bo to get a Beta OS to check out - can't wait for my MODX v2.0 update in October! 😎🎹👍
Very nice Tutorial, it’s similar to their accompaniment lines but more pro sounds and tracks
Nice explanation man. Seriously. I actually think you gave the best description. Performance = Sounds/kits used and Performance = Sequence (in MPC language). How's the midi capabilities when using another device to control the parts/tracks of the performance?
The Get Phrase and Put Phrase functions are great for arranging tracks.
Looks like a very powerful onboard sequencer. Just wonder if the lack of a visual presentation of the patterns isn't a bit confusing.
Yeah it could be way more graphical
Reminds me of the MPC sequencer. I think I could get the hang of it. 👍
Excellent tutorial video thank you!
thank you for making this!
Great video thanks! It is nice that they added the sequencer. Thanks for the video.
Dude, you should do a video series on how and what this board can do. I am a learning musician and would like to have an in depth on using this board. I would pay for something like that. By the way, great video.
Mike A I love it, has so much potential and you can’t go wrong with the Montage or MODX. A beast in content and an enjoyable learning curve that’s a can do, approach. It’s very satisfying to play and get lost in it for hours.
@@TenMilL do you think you would be willing to do a series of videos on how to use this board? I'm petty sure people would pay for it
Thanks, I would like to do that, plenty of others putting great content out already, the only thing is, I don’t think I am ready for that task yet. I’d rather keep going over it because it is a lot to keep in mind. As much as I’d like to, I don’t think I could do it justice beyond what is already out there due to the fact that even tho I have had the board awhile now, I kinda got it to early since I was still grasping the Elektron workflow and terminology at that time back in December. Now with the update, I need to get my hands on it first. The new system should be a whole easier to build full songs outside a PC. Bo is always good at covering what you need to be able to function on it. He has a lot more time than I have since I only returned to music after my service this year.
Wooooow Yamaha! What great news! Yamaha goes the Novation path!
i am hoping we are seeing a small shift.. ill try to keep roland honest with some MC updates. its super important
Thanks for tutorial, it was exactly what I needed! 😎👍
Yamaha needs to add the ability to search and/or design sounds while the sequencer is looping. I also think Audio tracks would have been useful.
Excellent video. Thank you!!!!!
Wonderful friend , thanks !
Great! So it's very good for building a song, actually much better than a linear sequencer, because of the linking of scenes, I think I'm gonna buy this synth...
Great tutorial and made me update to 2.0! Btw, if I want to start my recording on bars 5-8, I notice it will apply my "pattern" to bars 1-4 automatically when in overdub mode. Is there a way to prevent this? This seems to happen when I want to go back and add a high hat over my drums in overdub mode, but only apply the high hat for bars 5-8. It will always add the high hat to bars 1-4 for some reason
Hmm... When I heard that Yamaha launched pattern sequencer in their new firmware update v3.0 for Montage / Modx. I got excited and really wanted to see, but it's not that good, not easy, not simple and not user friendly the way it should be on a performance synth. For basic recording it's fine. I liked the Rhythm Pattern new feature on Montage. Which was already there on Modx and now midi controller is also possible to connect via usb port etc. Looks like Roland Fantom the dope, the beast is giving serious competition to Yamaha Montage.
Great tuto and pretty cool ambiance music thank’s a lot i love the modx and with you help that will be better for me because i’m just beguin with
(sorry for my english)
I'm using a Yamaha DJ x great machine but it's not got a sequencer it haves a function for recording over six different channels which it's handy you can make some killer tracks on it but have to hand play every thing...if it had a sequencer it would be a great work station
Do you have to stop the sequence every time you can’t go onto next track while in rehearsal mode and start recording?
great explanation, thanks Bo!
Bo.............. You showed be exactly what I needed to see. I have to get this keyboard now. Can you do one showing people how to load the whole DX7 sound factory into the MODX?
thanks buddy! I have no plans on any DX7 imports but Woody Piano Shack has a video on it
@@BoBeats gracias
hi, is there a way to save the 16 track sequence, as a wav file?? just updated to 2.51 regards and great vids
Wow, véry well done and crisp clear!
Thanks véry much. Hope you will do follow up vidz!!
Man I'd love one of these MODX boards ... they look like so much fun and sound great for the money. I already have a Korg Pa700 arranger, though.
I have Modx and I want Pa700 too lol. Remembrr that Modx is a synth, very different than an arranger. The sounds are much better, but you can't use it as an arranger.
@@fnonaka Oh I know. My point being was that I used my Pa700 as a sound engine for multitrack MIDI recording, which is exactly what I would use a MODX for.
Great demo, thank you!
I was trying to choose between MoDX and Roland FA (which I ordered but canceled because of the sample issues)to try and avoid a pc or device as much as possible. I hadn't noticed I was reading old posts about the MoDX sequencer and ordered the MoDX7 a few days ago when I found out about the latest patch.
thank you for the video (and all of your others as I am new to your channel . .but love it)
Oh. It didn't have a sequencer until now? ;) Judging from your video, it's quite capable, but also has a user interface which totally gets in your way. Which is kind of ironic, because "workstation synths" were meant to be the center of your studio, an alternative to using a DAW. Yet, I don't know any workstation which has a really great sequencer. (The MODX does sound great and has a lot of other things going for it). Anyway, thanks for this video, Bo. Great music and great presentation, as always.
overall I feel that the UI of the Modx is clunky. Companies like Roland and Yamaha need to look at what Elektron are doing :-)
@@BoBeats Didn't use any Akai Pro device, but I think that all their most recent gear also has good Ux.
They provide *piano-roll* mode sequencer, If I well remember .
Waiting for a company that will produce a *piano-roll* style hardware sequencer. One-purpose device. A big touch screen, some hw control and that's it.
( no computer mess and no Squarp pyramid super complicated workflow / narrow screen. ) =)
@@BoBeats You mean slow? Switch off the animation and blur in the settings menu. Or you ment something else on it?
PS. I think you mean it's little bit like a labirynth. Agree.
WOW, I did not see this coming. A lot of people (myself included) have bemoaned the lack of sequencer in the MODX, and I really didn't see them adding one, given it's ostensibly a synth not a workstation (although it undeniably always had workstation tendancies). All we need now is a grid-based MIDI editor to really make that sequencer amazing. Or is there anything like that in this update? Thanks for the video.
Yes it was a surprise to me too!
Thank you
Can one load Midi files songs already completed? And can you load MP3 tracks as well?
Thanks!
Can this sequencer work as a loop station also or you just have to stop everytime for adding other instruments?
Great information here, slow brains out there. Mine one of them. A lot to practice. THX Bo.
it's not your brains that are too slow, it is information, that, as usual, is WAY too fast and thus incomprehensible....99 percent of the makers of these videos really don't understand what it means to teach someone who is literally learning from scratch...I watch them all, for every single keyboard, whether I own it or not, to compare the logic of them all...these instructors mean well, really they do, and they know what THEY are talking about, but their teaching skills are lacking, because most of the time, they lose us along the way.
Does anyone know how to record the sustain pedal action? Every time I try to sequence my piano play, all the notes are in staccato .
Thanks for all the tutorials on this. I’ll be getting my MODX today. Can I update it straight to the newest Version or do I need to start with the oldest version first?
Update to latest version as it has new features and fixes bugs.
Kindly do sequencer advance videos also. Need to learn editing midi notes, editing velocity notes, quantize etc
I thought learning my Fairlight series 3 was difficult....WOW...
Thanks for introduction, just a few questions: 1) Is it possible to play the pattern after recording without stoping? (You always press stop) 2) Is it possible to leave play pattern screen and work on the sound-design afterwards? 3) Is it possible to switch to record mode while playing?
1) i press stop because of muscle memory. I generally do this whatever synth I am working on :D some kind of control thing... The pattern just loops and auto-quantizes if you have that set up. You can see it when I overdub the drums.
2) Yes. You can simply press play whenever and listen to current pattern.
3) Record mode? overdub and replace? I have not tried this.
BoBeats
Hi Bo! We appreciate your efforts on helping us. Is that a chance to have a new video using MODX along with one of your tons of analog Synths? I am familiar with Yamaha language but I am new in analog synths and I would like to see them working together. Thank you!
Unfortunately I dont use it any more. My daughter started taking piano lessons so she has it now.
@@BoBeats to know that your young lady is taking piano lessons makes me happy! Thank you for following up!
ITS OUT !!!!!!! yeeeeeeeey
Hm, I still don't see a piano-roll editor or a Cubase-like part view (like on the Roland Phantom G6)...Yamaha please come back when you REALLY updated the sequencer, lol.
Great video otherwise, thanks for letting us know the news.
Great intro Bo. Is there any quantization in triggering parts? Useful playing the sequencer live and pressing the button a bit earlier.
You are like a hipster Jesse Pinkerman (awesome video by the way)
But what if I want to record a linear song thst is not made of endlessly repeating identical patterns? Can I simply lay down different unique tracks? How long can each such track be (max "pattern" length, I guess)?