The tone on that guitar is just absolute perfection. I know a lot of people can't get past the price of genuine 58-60' bursts and somehow go down this blind alley where the price difference between the real thing and a reissue is just down to tone and therefore is completely unjustified. Which of course isn't the case at all. The astronomic price of real bursts is down to rarity and their almost mythical association with the golden age of rock music. Is the price justified? Well, if that's what people will pay then, yes, it's justified. Now, about the tone: yes, it is better than a reissue. Much, much better. Now, having said that, will today's reissues sound that good in 50 plus years? Maybe...but I doubt it. IMHO when Gibson tightened up the standards on its production processes starting in the early 60's some of the magic was irretrievably lost. So, yes, it's great that every pickup now falls within a tightly defined range of parameters, and, yes that means that you get far fewer dogs. But it also means you don't get a 'Beast' anymore. You don't get a Pearly Gates anymore. And you don't get a guitar like the one in this video anymore.
All you need is a 59 Les Paul and a Plexi My buddy has a 60 I have played it through a tweed deluxe fabulous The most alive piece of wood I've ever felt only 1.75
The biggest difference I always hear with real 59's is that their neck pickup sounds and both pickup sounds are never muddy and have a clarity that the newest ones can't seem to replicate. Is it just me? The best bang for the buck from Gibson now is the traditional, the Standards are hollowed out trash.
Damn straight. Les paul traditionals capture that 59 feel really well. Especially when you swap out the shitty gibson pickups for aftermarket paf style pickups
You can buy replacement after market humbuckers that are made exactly the same way as the original PAFs, as opposed to the modern Gibson humbucker. Look at pickup companies like Lollar or the Creamery or Bare Knuckle pickups. They handwind them. And they are to the exact same specification and materials as the original 50s PAFs. They aren't cheap. But hey you could get an Epiphone because they play just as good as the Gibsons, these days, and put in some of these vintage style handwound PAF style humbuckers, and instantly sound miles better than any modern stock Gibson
Yes vintage PAF's in neck position are way more clear than anything Gibson made since then. But its NOT impossible to get that kind of tone for me personally, because I spent 20 years reverse-engineering PAF's and I know WHY they are so clear, and can get about 98% of what they do. There are physics reasons, and materials reasons for that. The hobby "winders" will never figure it out because they're all using commercial parts from the big parts sellers, and none of those parts are what was ever found in any vintage PAF. Not only that their bobbins are also wrong, the wire they use is wrong. These kinds of pickup "makers" simply won't do any actual science work, they just want to wind Lego parts and say its their design, when the design is already done in the materials and physical geometry that was done for them. A big part of this tone in this video is from the amp. Obviously is not a modern and has no gain buttons or master volume, you just turn it up all the way. Speakers too. So, these are just words I'm writing here and are not proof, so I offer one of my many YT demo videos using REAL vintage PAF's and my recreations of them. This particular video was an experiment to see how close I could get to reproducing a single vintage PAF set as close as possible. Both pickups are from 1959 and were from a 1959 Black Beauty. The legs on them were cut off so the only restoration I did was put functionging legs, so they are not rewinds. I named the replica set after the guitar, so these are the "HD Black Beauty" PAF replica set. Take a listen. I have many similar videos if you want to learn details about vintage PAF's and some other vintage pickups I recreate: ua-cam.com/video/r17XQ3Vj02Q/v-deo.html
Judging by all the comments here, I think it would be safe to say that no two Les Pauls sound exactly the same. Some good, great even like shit. I've got a '16 Trad that sounds like a real 50s LP. IDK, maybe its the way I set up my amp because it sounds different through different ones that I have. Anyway, Greg can make anything sound like a million bucks, for sure. Been following him for the past 10 years and he just gets better, like fine wine.
I as well have a 16 traditional which can get me any tone I would ever want and need(it can also achieve the tone Slash uses in AFD) but you are right no Gibson ,or any guitar in general, sound the same and that is what makes guitar playing so fun and adventurous!
The A chord he plays at the :55 mark is what consistently distinguishes an original '59 from a reissue or replica. Haven't heard a recently built one with that articulate honk where all the notes in the A chord can be heard individually.
MrDrewseph: Same with me. No idea they have a UA-cam-Channel...and I got a Musician Luke II years ago from your shop. Shipping to Germany took more than 6 weeks, I really thought the ship was lost on the sea...haha...Knowing I was from Germany the Owner of the shop, sorry I forgot his name but he was actually a nice guy!, send me pictures of him driving his Porsche at ridiculous speed over Canadian streets... :-)). I guess that's really the one thing we have over here which makes foreigners a little jealous...NO Speedlimits on our "Autobahn". Of course not everywhere, but enough space to give your Porsche a good run at full speed..... Greetings from Germany. And I'm still very happy with my Luke II....! ps: Greg Koch is a monster....! I love his playing.
The Big Koch is always great and I must say his tone is way better here than any of the Wildwood demos where those guitars always sound thinner and weaker than they actually are. Here factor a Friedman Dirty Shirley into the equation... it's VALVE overdrive we are mostly hearing and actually a good EQ on the recording. The Burst wouldn't be able to be AB blindfold tested against say a Brazilian '18 R9 with Tom Homes pickups or Throbaks into the same Amp mic signal chain.
@Daniel Laurence untrue. What's your actual ownership reference? I personally have 1960s PAF, 63 Patent number, '17 R0, '18 R9 Braz, Virgil Arlo etc and TH and Throbak get pretty close as close as say a different vintage PAF which as you may know can vary widely. To say they are a joke is a joke.
I've seen them pop up around $250000 on reverb and clean ones too. I'd expect lower if it has cosmetic issues like a repaired broken headstock or Bigsby holes in the top.
Right after I got outa the Navy (alive ( in Sept '72) I went to a guitar store in Oakland and bought a near mint '59 that looked exactly like that one. $400. the Fender amp was $200. Four years later we had our second child, so I figured that was it for electric guitars. So I sold mine, still prime condition, for $500. IT seems that guitar would now be worth over half a million bucks. Who knew?
Hey Greg there's this guy named Eric. Would you send this video to him and tell him this is what a Les Paul sounds like when you're really pushing it. He might like it!
Greg is a guitar star, he puts to shame and is more versatile than the big names. No doubt there is something in these old planks. The pups for a start have aged and we're scatter wound in factory. Do yet self a favour if you want this tone, get some pups from WCR. The closest PAF I know. Notes bloom as they should. And priced keenly.
when i play guitar i feel to myself "i'm getting a lot better at this!" then i see this and then im like "oh...i'm still shit". i bet he's been playing for years though (i started about 2 months ago btw)
Greg's video demos are worthless... because he could make a counterfeit gibson/chibson sound like the real deal. How the heck is this guy not playing sold out shows?
@@chriswtecreator9636 TO MAKE IT TODAY YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO WRITE AND PLAY LIKE ZEPPELIN STONES PETTY BEATLES ETC ,THERE'S MILLIONS OF GREAT GUITARISTS ON UA-cam PLAYING THEIR BRAINS OUT GOING NOWHERE.LEAD GUITAR PLAYING IS GREAT BUT SERIOUSLY OVERRATED.
ERIC EDMUND I’m a guitar player af. But you are 100% correct. Also, while Greg is good, there is an astounding amount of people on UA-cam that are leagues better than him.
@@lllULTIMATEMASTERlll THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE BETTER, BUT THEN WHAT IS CONSIDERED BETTER ?????KEITH RICHARD CAN HARDLY PLAY A SOLO LOL, BUT HE WRITES THE GREATEST ROCK SONGS OF ALL TIME AND IS IN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ROCK GROUP IN THE WORLD. SO I SAY STOP WASTING TIME TRYING TO PLAY FASTER THAN THE NEXT GUY GROW UP AND TRY AND WRITE A REAL CLASSIC SONG THAT WILL BE AROUND FOR DECADES OTHER WISE YOU GOT NOTHING PERIOD.
Same with me. No idea they have a UA-cam-Channel...and I got a Musician Luke II years ago from your shop. Shipping to Germany took more than 6 weeks, I really thought the ship was lost on the sea...haha...Knowing I was from Germany the Owner of the shop, sorry I forgot his name but he was actually a nice guy!, send me pictures of him driving his Porsche at ridiculous speed over Canadian streets... :-)). I guess that's really the one thing we have over here which makes foreigners a little jealous...NO Speedlimits on our "Autobahn". Of course not everywhere, but enough space to give your Porsche a good run at full speed.....
Michael Blake - and Centralab pots according to Joe Bonamassa, he suggests at least finding those or equivalents as the most crucial thing. Spoken as a guy who actually gigs his vintage guitars.
Try Throback Electronics. They cost a very steep price but they are as close to an original PAF as humanly possible (they’re made using the original winding machine used to wind the originals). Contrary to popular belief, original PAFs were not wound by hand, but on this specific machine. The thing that made the variations between different ones was the number of winds on each bobbin and the pattern of the winds on both, as well as the specific Alnico magnet that was used. Different employees at Gibson would set the winding machines different or not stop them at the same consistent point which is what caused old Les Pauls to all sound different to each other. This is where Throback has nailed it, as they’ve scrutinized the pattern of winds on each bobbin of the very best sounding PAFs of the period and recreated it exactly on their pickups. Other companies get close (Wizz, Ox4, Bare Knuckle, etc.) but without that exact method no one can properly nail that tone by winding the pickups simply by hand.
Man I swear the pickups are the most popular and least required mod to most guitars. From my experience they aren't anywhere near as important as people think
@justin. y Gibson ‘57 Classics couldn’t be more different to any real set of PAFs if they wanted to. ‘Burstbuckers are closer yet still not right. Even Gibson’s closest modern attempt at replicating that sound (the Custom Bucker) sounds nowhere in the ballpark of an actual PAF. I’ve probably tried several dozen repros over the years from various companies and I’ve only ever come across two that truly nail that sound: ThroBak and Stephen’s Design. Nothing else does, including Seymour Duncan. I own four sets of real PAFs/Patent Numbers, so I’ve been able to compare them to numerous repros to determine what’s accurate. Contrary to popular belief, there isn’t the massive variation in those vintage pups that everyone claims there is. While it’s true they all have their own unique “voice”, they all maintain a very distinct tonal character which is consistent to real PAFs that nearly every single repro (except the two I mentioned) gets wrong.
The old ones resonate better for sure...think about that wood really dried out now moisture content aged magnets mellow it...the thing will growl for sure especially with a good tube amp...yes they are a rare breed and coveted.....but regular guys like most can’t own one now....but watching Greg play one is awesome.🙂🎸
Not everyone has the refined ear to appreciate it. These are the pointy head stock boys that think gain is everything This is what real tone is supposed to sound like
Almost identical sound and look like the Les Paul Héritage 80 élite guitar. We have already done a proof with a Tester and the frecuency high and low output level measured the same
Well I'm the proud owner of an r8 (better specs for my large clown hands) the r9 spec didn't suit me. But would I swap my r8 for an original 59?? FUCK YEAH!!! Then I could sell it and pay my mortgage off!! 🕶
I bet he thinks "well, pretty cool LP, better then some, worse then the others I have tried". There's nothing apart from the legend that makes these more valuable then other vintage LPs.
Vladimir Kornienko make your best suggestion, mate. And how would it affect what I've said anyway? Did the wood they used in '59 was significantly better than in '58? Maybe much better than in '60? Come on.
Why doesn't anyone know what pickups are used in these things today enough to build them again? Are all the engineers dead? No record keeping? What the hell?!
What? Every single component of these guitars is known perfectly, and they've been remade countless times. What makes them so valuable is scarcity and legend, not the way they're made.
I did all that. Going into my 17th year now. The reason you don't hear much about me is I don't mass produce. In order to replicate vintage PAF's you can't use bulk materials or you end up with trash. Steel varies from every different mill and steel varies from every different batch. We did 6 years of industrial-mentored analyses and studies on every pickup model Gibson made from 1937-1977. And Elektrisola Wire Corp, did analyses and studies on wire from all those pickups. The reasons these old pickups sound that way are pretty complex, but they can be reproduced about 97% if you understand the materials and engineering. I have an article I wrote in Burst Believers II and this recent article to goes into depth of what my reverse-engineering trip involved. Also search here on UA-cam for SDPICKUPS and you'll see me compare real vintage PAF's from all years vs. my replicas. The article is here: guitarconnoisseurmagazine.com/wordpress1/2016/10/21/fall-issue-of-guitar-connoisseur-is-out/
No, this is not really true. Gibson does a pretty bad job of recreating actual vintage Les Pauls. Most of the hardware they are using is completely wrong vs. what was on real vintage LP's. It makes a HUGE difference if you correct their mistakes. Vintage LP's had brass bridge posts and thumbwheels, Gibson is using STEEL. Steel deadens tone, brass gives you chime and beautiful acoustic sounds. Vintage LP's had LONG stop bar inserts of steel and long steel stud bolts. Gibson uses SHORT for both. Huge difference in sustain if you change your guitar to correct long parts in steel. Vintage used aluminum super light weight stop bars, this is a chimey acoustic sounding material, not sure what Gibson is using now, most companies use pot metal which does add sustain but not beautiful tones. The ABR1's are a total disaster, no one makes one that sounds like the real thing, no one. The reason is that the body material is a certain zinc alloy and all the companies are using the wrong version. Brass saddles were used also, most use that but vintage was a specific brass alloy, I haven't destroyed my vintage ABR1 to find out what alloy it was but I did do this the posts and wheels, they probably used that alloy. All the same goes for the harness. Most purist LP guys completely replace the Gibson harnesses with good audio taper CTS vintage taper pots, and real paper in oil tone caps and better braided wire than I've seen in Gibsons I've worked on. I have several customers who have done all of these changes and are completely blown away by their guitars now. Gibson's pickups have never recreated original PAF's and they've made no real attempt to do so. But then no one I know ever has either, but I did, beginning 17 years ago...
Robert Wilson III I think it is just a combination of all of the parts. Woods, construction techniques (handmade), aging seems to help the character out some, players that also tend to have the opportunity to play a guitar of this age and caliber have learned tone taste, are handed a 1959 Paul always professionally setup and cared for properly and don't put it through a shitstorm of circuitry when they play it. If you gave that guitar to a kid and his shitty amp and shitty pedals it would sound like? right! This is the holy grail that Gibson will never let go of and that they will continue to charge more and more for the chance to say you are close but yet so far.....
soapboxearth i mean in there defense. The mahogany Gibson used in the 50s was hundreds of years old. Had more time to dry out which allows the wood to breathe and resonate. That's a proven fact. But The difference between like maple and mahogany ? I don't buy into that.
Dawson Hooker i dont buy in the breathing part neither. some wood resonate more than others that's proven, butif anything in an electric guitar the only audio difference could be sustain. everything else comes from the pickups
Actually the proven fact is that wood doesn't / can't "breathe". Just another guitar forum 'buzzword' that people think makes them look like they know what they're talkin bout, when the reality is its the opposite. Whats hilarious is you follow up by saying the difference between Mahogany and Maple is something you don't buy into !! smh......
@ soapboxearth...and you even have a variety of replies from some who imagine tonewood makes no difference, which I find absurd. Hey guys... have you ever seen those tuners that clamp to the headstock? Isn't it obvious the neck vibrates in resonance? How 'bout the body? Can you not feel that it vibrates too? If it's all about the pickups why do hollow body, semi-hollow, and solid body (not to mention flat versus carved top guitars) sound different? Look, any frequencies absorbed by the wood (or metal cone on dobro-like guitars) and hardware means some lesser amount of that energy stay in the strings to be picked up magnetically and reach the amp. Also, many pups are at least slightly microphonic and they will pickup some of those resonant vibrations off the wood. Yes LOTS of things are part of why individual guitars sound how they do and wood is one of them. Seen any 1/2 million dollar Dan Armstrong or Steinberger guitars lately?
That’s one of the best sounding ones I’ve heard. Oh my god it has a voice to it. It has so much sustain it’s crazy. I like it.
wow, one of the best examples of a 59 I've ever heard. This is beautiful
That neck pickup is something special
RIght? Holy shit, dude.
Neck pickups make me moist.
1:05 Hell Ya!!!
It's funny... You wouldn't think it'd be that hard to get there but alot of guitars fall short. Great amp like this one helps
It sings,,
i love the stuff he does at 1:32 and onward you don’t normally hear him do stuff like that
Super playing! He is fully worthy of that guitar!
Wow! Those original '59s really are a magical piece of wood. Tone for days!
Theyre special aren't they!? Just vibrant and full of clarity
That is a magical sounding (and looking) one. Incredible. Being able to play like Greg Koch doesn’t hurt!
The tone on that guitar is just absolute perfection. I know a lot of people can't get past the price of genuine 58-60' bursts and somehow go down this blind alley where the price difference between the real thing and a reissue is just down to tone and therefore is completely unjustified. Which of course isn't the case at all. The astronomic price of real bursts is down to rarity and their almost mythical association with the golden age of rock music. Is the price justified? Well, if that's what people will pay then, yes, it's justified.
Now, about the tone: yes, it is better than a reissue. Much, much better. Now, having said that, will today's reissues sound that good in 50 plus years? Maybe...but I doubt it.
IMHO when Gibson tightened up the standards on its production processes starting in the early 60's some of the magic was irretrievably lost. So, yes, it's great that every pickup now falls within a tightly defined range of parameters, and, yes that means that you get far fewer dogs. But it also means you don't get a 'Beast' anymore. You don't get a Pearly Gates anymore. And you don't get a guitar like the one in this video anymore.
It doesn’t sound “much” better than a reissue. That’s just built into people’s heads romantically.
@@RichardGarcia93 Shhh,🤫Let's keep that our little secret? 😁
You can….just not from Gibson.
All you need is a 59 Les Paul and a Plexi
My buddy has a 60 I have played it through a tweed deluxe fabulous The most alive piece of wood I've ever felt only 1.75
The biggest difference I always hear with real 59's is that their neck pickup sounds and both pickup sounds are never muddy and have a clarity that the newest ones can't seem to replicate. Is it just me? The best bang for the buck from Gibson now is the traditional, the Standards are hollowed out trash.
And the bridge pickup has all the high end you'd ever want without being harsh... They're a bit unique, it's not bs that they're so revered
Damn straight. Les paul traditionals capture that 59 feel really well. Especially when you swap out the shitty gibson pickups for aftermarket paf style pickups
True. It cant be replicated
You can buy replacement after market humbuckers that are made exactly the same way as the original PAFs, as opposed to the modern Gibson humbucker. Look at pickup companies like Lollar or the Creamery or Bare Knuckle pickups. They handwind them. And they are to the exact same specification and materials as the original 50s PAFs. They aren't cheap. But hey you could get an Epiphone because they play just as good as the Gibsons, these days, and put in some of these vintage style handwound PAF style humbuckers, and instantly sound miles better than any modern stock Gibson
Yes vintage PAF's in neck position are way more clear than anything Gibson made since then. But its NOT impossible to get that kind of tone for me personally, because I spent 20 years reverse-engineering PAF's and I know WHY they are so clear, and can get about 98% of what they do. There are physics reasons, and materials reasons for that. The hobby "winders" will never figure it out because they're all using commercial parts from the big parts sellers, and none of those parts are what was ever found in any vintage PAF. Not only that their bobbins are also wrong, the wire they use is wrong. These kinds of pickup "makers" simply won't do any actual science work, they just want to wind Lego parts and say its their design, when the design is already done in the materials and physical geometry that was done for them. A big part of this tone in this video is from the amp. Obviously is not a modern and has no gain buttons or master volume, you just turn it up all the way. Speakers too. So, these are just words I'm writing here and are not proof, so I offer one of my many YT demo videos using REAL vintage PAF's and my recreations of them. This particular video was an experiment to see how close I could get to reproducing a single vintage PAF set as close as possible. Both pickups are from 1959 and were from a 1959 Black Beauty. The legs on them were cut off so the only restoration I did was put functionging legs, so they are not rewinds. I named the replica set after the guitar, so these are the "HD Black Beauty" PAF replica set. Take a listen. I have many similar videos if you want to learn details about vintage PAF's and some other vintage pickups I recreate:
ua-cam.com/video/r17XQ3Vj02Q/v-deo.html
He makes a Les Paul look so small in his hands lol
He's 6'7".
It doesn't get much better than this. A perfect marriage.
Sounds insane, can't compare with other replicas
Judging by all the comments here, I think it would be safe to say that no two Les Pauls sound exactly the same. Some good, great even like shit. I've got a '16 Trad that sounds like a real 50s LP. IDK, maybe its the way I set up my amp because it sounds different through different ones that I have. Anyway, Greg can make anything sound like a million bucks, for sure. Been following him for the past 10 years and he just gets better, like fine wine.
I as well have a 16 traditional which can get me any tone I would ever want and need(it can also achieve the tone Slash uses in AFD) but you are right no Gibson ,or any guitar in general, sound the same and that is what makes guitar playing so fun and adventurous!
The A chord he plays at the :55 mark is what consistently distinguishes an original '59 from a reissue or replica.
Haven't heard a recently built one with that articulate honk where all the notes in the A chord can be heard individually.
Best sounding '59 I have ever heard. Of course the fella playing it doesn't do anything to take away from it's sound either!
Curious what amp he is playing through. Greg is the man.
No one emulates Cream era Clapton like JD Simo and Greg Koch!
Looks and sounds like a superb guitar...
one of the best of the burst movie on youtube
Hi! Greetings from Brazil! I would like to know what amp he's using? A jtm45 type? Cheers!!!
MrDrewseph: Same with me. No idea they have a UA-cam-Channel...and I got a Musician Luke II years ago from your shop. Shipping to Germany took more than 6 weeks, I really thought the ship was lost on the sea...haha...Knowing I was from Germany the Owner of the shop, sorry I forgot his name but he was actually a nice guy!, send me pictures of him driving his Porsche at ridiculous speed over Canadian streets... :-)). I guess that's really the one thing we have over here which makes foreigners a little jealous...NO Speedlimits on our "Autobahn". Of course not everywhere, but enough space to give your Porsche a good run at full speed..... Greetings from Germany. And I'm still very happy with my Luke II....! ps: Greg Koch is a monster....! I love his playing.
What burst is this? Tobacco? It's the prettiest color I have ever seen
Hey Greg, what setting should I use on my fishman PU’s to emulate this?
Tremendous player!
...just wow!!...💥🎉🎸
Martin Kilner
beautiful bell tone nice job bro
Pretty decent sounding amp.
That was my first thought too! I'm way more interested in the amp than the guitar.
Amp sounds warm and not farty like most modern tube amps.
Those guys are really good.
i have never seen him making a demo of a guitar he did not like lol so
phenixreturns I bet he really loves open to up an amp and not have to play with those stupid pedals he plays with at Wildwood
Cause every guitar he plays is insanely nice
WHEN. WAS THE KOCHMEISTER. AT THE GUITAR SHOP??!?!?!
And why didn't I know about this?!?!?!?!
Maybe u were busy outside trying to get some tail :P
Greg is a MONSTER!!! Anyone know the serial # of that Burst? Thanks!!
Sounds Great!!!
The Big Koch is always great and I must say his tone is way better here than any of the Wildwood demos where those guitars always sound thinner and weaker than they actually are. Here factor a Friedman Dirty Shirley into the equation... it's VALVE overdrive we are mostly hearing and actually a good EQ on the recording. The Burst wouldn't be able to be AB blindfold tested against say a Brazilian '18 R9 with Tom Homes pickups or Throbaks into the same Amp mic signal chain.
@Daniel Laurence untrue. What's your actual ownership reference? I personally have 1960s PAF, 63 Patent number, '17 R0, '18 R9 Braz, Virgil Arlo etc and TH and Throbak get pretty close as close as say a different vintage PAF which as you may know can vary widely. To say they are a joke is a joke.
@Daniel Laurence have you owned guitars with Throbaks and Tom Holmes?
The amp is used when playing so you can sound as loud as a Trumpet
I think it would be hilarious if there was a follow up vid to this that said we were just
trolling you all and that Les Paul was actually a Baranet!
I've got a Harley Benton which i picked up used for $39 which sounds identical to that '59
Excellent !!!
always entertaining😀👍
What cabinet was he using?
dang i remember seeing he was going to be there but i couldn't make it... :(
The amp also sounds great and the player is bringing out the potential of the gear,Amp model?
What amp is that !
The sound of rock
An original '59 retails for about $400,000 today, right?
I've seen them pop up around $250000 on reverb and clean ones too. I'd expect lower if it has cosmetic issues like a repaired broken headstock or Bigsby holes in the top.
wow that thing squawks and screams at the same time ... how'd they do that?
Right after I got outa the Navy (alive ( in Sept '72) I went to a guitar store in Oakland and bought a near mint '59 that looked exactly like that one. $400. the Fender amp was $200. Four years later we had our second child, so I figured that was it for electric guitars. So I sold mine, still prime condition, for $500. IT seems that guitar would now be worth over half a million bucks. Who knew?
Hey Greg there's this guy named Eric. Would you send this video to him and tell him this is what a Les Paul sounds like when you're really pushing it. He might like it!
Whats he plugged into
Greg must be a huge guy.
That guitar looks like a mandolin on his
body.
sonic gold
Is it true bypass?
That Joe Walsh tone is so nuts..
Greg is a guitar star, he puts to shame and is more versatile than the big names.
No doubt there is something in these old planks. The pups for a start have aged and we're scatter wound in factory.
Do yet self a favour if you want this tone, get some pups from WCR. The closest PAF I know. Notes bloom as they should. And priced keenly.
How tall is this guy? That guitar looks so tiny on him
What's the number of the beast?
I would take Greg playing an epiphone over me playing a real 59 and I am pretty good!
he is worthy
when i play guitar i feel to myself "i'm getting a lot better at this!" then i see this and then im like "oh...i'm still shit". i bet he's been playing for years though
(i started about 2 months ago btw)
**Sounds like a Bobburst!**
Greg is one sick mo-fo player
Greg's video demos are worthless... because he could make a counterfeit gibson/chibson sound like the real deal.
How the heck is this guy not playing sold out shows?
IT TAKES MORE THAN PLAYING ABILITY TODAY.
@@chriswtecreator9636 TO MAKE IT TODAY YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO WRITE AND PLAY LIKE ZEPPELIN STONES PETTY BEATLES ETC ,THERE'S MILLIONS OF GREAT GUITARISTS ON UA-cam PLAYING THEIR BRAINS OUT GOING NOWHERE.LEAD GUITAR PLAYING IS GREAT BUT SERIOUSLY OVERRATED.
ERIC EDMUND I’m a guitar player af. But you are 100% correct.
Also, while Greg is good, there is an astounding amount of people on UA-cam that are leagues better than him.
@@lllULTIMATEMASTERlll THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE BETTER, BUT THEN WHAT IS CONSIDERED BETTER ?????KEITH RICHARD CAN HARDLY PLAY A SOLO LOL, BUT HE WRITES THE GREATEST ROCK SONGS OF ALL TIME AND IS IN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ROCK GROUP IN THE WORLD. SO I SAY STOP WASTING TIME TRYING TO PLAY FASTER THAN THE NEXT GUY GROW UP AND TRY AND WRITE A REAL CLASSIC SONG THAT WILL BE AROUND FOR DECADES OTHER WISE YOU GOT NOTHING PERIOD.
ERIC EDMUND I agree.
Oh my God.....
sounds like a great guitar to me
The original bursts have magical powers. The mojo is real
thats a big koch!
Very unWildwoodlike, I like it.
Greg is a Fenderman
This the first time he didn't make a guitar sound like a. Tele which he has an habit of making every guitar sound like
That's the hideaway tone
1:07
You have a yootubz channel! Had no idea! You guys shipped me a PRS, years ago, all the way to New Zealand.
Same with me. No idea they have a UA-cam-Channel...and I got a Musician Luke II years ago from your shop. Shipping to Germany took more than 6 weeks, I really thought the ship was lost on the sea...haha...Knowing I was from Germany the Owner of the shop, sorry I forgot his name but he was actually a nice guy!, send me pictures of him driving his Porsche at ridiculous speed over Canadian streets... :-)). I guess that's really the one thing we have over here which makes foreigners a little jealous...NO Speedlimits on our "Autobahn". Of course not everywhere, but enough space to give your Porsche a good run at full speed.....
Friedman amp?
+Ronald Rosenau Yes, it might be the dirty shirley
Why can't Gibson make the new ones sound like that. Even the ones that cost 9 grand pale in comparison to that BITE
How big is this guy? The guitar looks like minion one :)
I think he's like 6'7".
Yep , 6'7" Gregs a monster OF ROCK!!!
Greg could make an Epiphone sound like that 🙈
Only original PAFS produce that tone...... they are distinctive
Michael Blake - and Centralab pots according to Joe Bonamassa, he suggests at least finding those or equivalents as the most crucial thing. Spoken as a guy who actually gigs his vintage guitars.
Try Throback Electronics. They cost a very steep price but they are as close to an original PAF as humanly possible (they’re made using the original winding machine used to wind the originals). Contrary to popular belief, original PAFs were not wound by hand, but on this specific machine. The thing that made the variations between different ones was the number of winds on each bobbin and the pattern of the winds on both, as well as the specific Alnico magnet that was used. Different employees at Gibson would set the winding machines different or not stop them at the same consistent point which is what caused old Les Pauls to all sound different to each other. This is where Throback has nailed it, as they’ve scrutinized the pattern of winds on each bobbin of the very best sounding PAFs of the period and recreated it exactly on their pickups. Other companies get close (Wizz, Ox4, Bare Knuckle, etc.) but without that exact method no one can properly nail that tone by winding the pickups simply by hand.
Get a set of Montys guitars PAFs best there is!!
Man I swear the pickups are the most popular and least required mod to most guitars. From my experience they aren't anywhere near as important as people think
@justin. y Gibson ‘57 Classics couldn’t be more different to any real set of PAFs if they wanted to. ‘Burstbuckers are closer yet still not right. Even Gibson’s closest modern attempt at replicating that sound (the Custom Bucker) sounds nowhere in the ballpark of an actual PAF. I’ve probably tried several dozen repros over the years from various companies and I’ve only ever come across two that truly nail that sound: ThroBak and Stephen’s Design. Nothing else does, including Seymour Duncan.
I own four sets of real PAFs/Patent Numbers, so I’ve been able to compare them to numerous repros to determine what’s accurate. Contrary to popular belief, there isn’t the massive variation in those vintage pups that everyone claims there is. While it’s true they all have their own unique “voice”, they all maintain a very distinct tonal character which is consistent to real PAFs that nearly every single repro (except the two I mentioned) gets wrong.
The old ones resonate better for sure...think about that wood really dried out now moisture content aged magnets mellow it...the thing will growl for sure especially with a good tube amp...yes they are a rare breed and coveted.....but regular guys like most can’t own one now....but watching Greg play one is awesome.🙂🎸
It looks like that Red Eye burst
100% is the guitar!!
that same sound comes out of real PAFs, in many guitars
Realised I prefer 60
That has to be a plug of a session. I really respect Greg's playing, but that way of "killing" the '59???
Still a badass. Sorry the real standards sound different than the replicas.
LOVE the tone... but gottdammitt NO one can keep a Les Paul (or an SG) in tune
Not everyone has the refined ear to appreciate it. These are the pointy head stock boys that think gain is everything
This is what real tone is supposed to sound like
Amps a Friedman Dirty Shirley looks like..
Ha! I saw now that the answer is her below!!!! Hahaahahaha! Thankx a lot!
Almost identical sound and look like the Les Paul Héritage 80 élite guitar. We have already done a proof with a Tester and the frecuency high and low output level measured the same
omg!
Well I'm the proud owner of an r8 (better specs for my large clown hands) the r9 spec didn't suit me. But would I swap my r8 for an original 59?? FUCK YEAH!!! Then I could sell it and pay my mortgage off!! 🕶
I bet he thinks "well, pretty cool LP, better then some, worse then the others I have tried". There's nothing apart from the legend that makes these more valuable then other vintage LPs.
Rarity is certainly a contributing factor in terms of the monetary value of '59s. It's certainly not just ''legend'', as you put it.
oh by the way, have you ever played one?
Vladimir Kornienko make your best suggestion, mate. And how would it affect what I've said anyway? Did the wood they used in '59 was significantly better than in '58? Maybe much better than in '60? Come on.
well, if we look THAT narrow - 58-59-60 - of course I don't think so.
Greg plays Teles with blades so this probably just sounded 'subdued' to him.
Why doesn't anyone know what pickups are used in these things today enough to build them again? Are all the engineers dead? No record keeping? What the hell?!
What? Every single component of these guitars is known perfectly, and they've been remade countless times. What makes them so valuable is scarcity and legend, not the way they're made.
I did all that. Going into my 17th year now. The reason you don't hear much about me is I don't mass produce. In order to replicate vintage PAF's you can't use bulk materials or you end up with trash. Steel varies from every different mill and steel varies from every different batch. We did 6 years of industrial-mentored analyses and studies on every pickup model Gibson made from 1937-1977. And Elektrisola Wire Corp, did analyses and studies on wire from all those pickups. The reasons these old pickups sound that way are pretty complex, but they can be reproduced about 97% if you understand the materials and engineering. I have an article I wrote in Burst Believers II and this recent article to goes into depth of what my reverse-engineering trip involved. Also search here on UA-cam for SDPICKUPS and you'll see me compare real vintage PAF's from all years vs. my replicas. The article is here:
guitarconnoisseurmagazine.com/wordpress1/2016/10/21/fall-issue-of-guitar-connoisseur-is-out/
I just need Greg Koch to do a demo, LOL, I couldn't even come close to what he does ;-)
No, this is not really true. Gibson does a pretty bad job of recreating actual vintage Les Pauls. Most of the hardware they are using is completely wrong vs. what was on real vintage LP's. It makes a HUGE difference if you correct their mistakes. Vintage LP's had brass bridge posts and thumbwheels, Gibson is using STEEL. Steel deadens tone, brass gives you chime and beautiful acoustic sounds. Vintage LP's had LONG stop bar inserts of steel and long steel stud bolts. Gibson uses SHORT for both. Huge difference in sustain if you change your guitar to correct long parts in steel. Vintage used aluminum super light weight stop bars, this is a chimey acoustic sounding material, not sure what Gibson is using now, most companies use pot metal which does add sustain but not beautiful tones. The ABR1's are a total disaster, no one makes one that sounds like the real thing, no one. The reason is that the body material is a certain zinc alloy and all the companies are using the wrong version. Brass saddles were used also, most use that but vintage was a specific brass alloy, I haven't destroyed my vintage ABR1 to find out what alloy it was but I did do this the posts and wheels, they probably used that alloy. All the same goes for the harness. Most purist LP guys completely replace the Gibson harnesses with good audio taper CTS vintage taper pots, and real paper in oil tone caps and better braided wire than I've seen in Gibsons I've worked on. I have several customers who have done all of these changes and are completely blown away by their guitars now. Gibson's pickups have never recreated original PAF's and they've made no real attempt to do so. But then no one I know ever has either, but I did, beginning 17 years ago...
Robert Wilson III I think it is just a combination of all of the parts. Woods, construction techniques (handmade), aging seems to help the character out some, players that also tend to have the opportunity to play a guitar of this age and caliber have learned tone taste, are handed a 1959 Paul always professionally setup and cared for properly and don't put it through a shitstorm of circuitry when they play it. If you gave that guitar to a kid and his shitty amp and shitty pedals it would sound like? right! This is the holy grail that Gibson will never let go of and that they will continue to charge more and more for the chance to say you are close but yet so far.....
Greg Rocks ! Shit son
Show off ! Have yet another bowl greasy gristle and quit smokin’ that guitar 🎸!!
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Some of Greg’s worst overplaying and over bending… maybe he was overawed. Sound is spectacular.
To bad Greg can't focus on one tune for more than 1 second, He mite be wroth listening to if he worked on his OCD
and people still argue that tonewood makes no difference...
soapboxearth i mean in there defense. The mahogany Gibson used in the 50s was hundreds of years old. Had more time to dry out which allows the wood to breathe and resonate. That's a proven fact. But The difference between like maple and mahogany ? I don't buy into that.
Dawson Hooker i dont buy in the breathing part neither. some wood resonate more than others that's proven, butif anything in an electric guitar the only audio difference could be sustain. everything else comes from the pickups
Actually the proven fact is that wood doesn't / can't "breathe". Just another guitar forum 'buzzword' that people think makes them look like they know what they're talkin bout, when the reality is its the opposite.
Whats hilarious is you follow up by saying the difference between Mahogany and Maple is something you don't buy into !! smh......
@ soapboxearth...and you even have a variety of replies from some who imagine tonewood makes no difference, which I find absurd. Hey guys... have you ever seen those tuners that clamp to the headstock? Isn't it obvious the neck vibrates in resonance? How 'bout the body? Can you not feel that it vibrates too? If it's all about the pickups why do hollow body, semi-hollow, and solid body (not to mention flat versus carved top guitars) sound different? Look, any frequencies absorbed by the wood (or metal cone on dobro-like guitars) and hardware means some lesser amount of that energy stay in the strings to be picked up magnetically and reach the amp. Also, many pups are at least slightly microphonic and they will pickup some of those resonant vibrations off the wood. Yes LOTS of things are part of why individual guitars sound how they do and wood is one of them. Seen any 1/2 million dollar Dan Armstrong or Steinberger guitars lately?
uh dad,
can i borrow $300,000?