South Bend lathe MILLING ATTACHMENT
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2022
- This is part 2 of a 2 part video series.
Watch this video-- SOUTH BEND MILLING ATTACHMENT #814 pt 1 tubalcain
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I always learn little tips when I watch your stuff. Never having had any formal training, every little tip helps. Thanks again.
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Even with training there is always something garnered from other people's methods! 👍😎
Like the boring dial gauge holder!
Just my two cents from one old machinist to another. I would pin the dovetail pin on the extension fixture. My luck I'd be on my last cut of a fine part and it would move
I've never been lucky, I'm not lucky now, and I see no reason for a change in that status in the future. I completely concur.
Mr.Pete,
Make your hole saws self oiling by drilling thru a cheap sponge and leaving the sponge core in the saw. Saturate the sponge with cutting oil and the heat from drilling warms the oil and it will run down to the cutting edge.
Excellent idea
Lyle -Nice project and I'll bet you a cup of coffee more than 4 of us watched the whole video. I like my morning edutainment! Have a good day.
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Thanks Mr. Pete, that was a fun project, including the extra credit 👍
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I would have given an arm and a leg for a South Bend Milling attachment for dads 9" SBL fifty something years ago. Instead, dad brought home a Palmgren milling attachment. What a P.O.S. it was, messed up many of a project trying to mill anything with it turned it into a challenging task. A short time later, I wound up with a worn-out no. 3 Brown & Sharp horizontal mill that I fixed up to take it's place. I still have that milling attachment, tucked away in the tooling dungeon to never be used again by me. As always, thanks for the videos, Ken
As usual just in time as I pour my coffee. Great series so far Mr Pete. Good morning everyone.
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Good morning Michael.
Great ending Mr.Pete. Went perfectly with my cup of coffee ! Thanks for all you do. And p.s. your videos are never to long...longer the better for me! Take care and can't wait for the next one!
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I must attest, Mr. Pete’s videos are perfect for watching with coffee. I’m doing the same right now.
Thanks for the inspiration as I've purchased a Palmgren for my Clausing
Yeup. I made a coffee to drink to watch this. With a KitKat :D Envious of your shop. I have a 10x6 garden shed :(
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Loved the video. I must be about to graduate with all the extra credit. I bet I have a solid D+. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
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I get so much enjoyment out of watching you work, along with your little comments along the way. Keep it up, and thanks
Thank you, keep watching
Simple job, but still requires a good deal of thought. Take care.
TILL THE END. THANKS MR PETE
Excellent video,again.Thank you.
I'm certain more than four of us stayed with you to the end... In my situation, being mill poor, I would have off-set chucked in my 4-jaw, to bore those two large holes. I always enjoy your videos. Thanks!
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I clamped it to a faceplate on my SB13 to bore the holes.
@@HDBee That works also. I only have a SB10 Heavy and bought a face plate, a while back. Lots of ideas for it, though my big 4-jaw has helped me with some complicated problems.
Although I don't have a SB lathe and will probably never need to make this adapter there is great value in the techniques demonstrated. Thank you.
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Always love a useful, simple project. Some good work here.
Thank you! This was great, I stayed for the whole video.
Your personality and subtle jokes are always awesome. I've been running my own custom job shop for near 30 years and I'm always learning something from you.
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Good morning Mr Pete , always stay for the extra credit- always tend to do that when you are a D student...
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G'day Tubalcain, I set out to make 8 individual exhaust header flanges using a hole saw. The first hole took so long and was so hard that I figured the hole saw was already blunt. So I went and bought 2 more thinking that's what I would need to finish the remaining flanges. What I discovered is that as soon as you get to the depth of the teeth there is no escape route for the swarf. The swarf simply packs in between the teeth making it near impossible to feed. I found that more lube didn't help. I simply had to raise the hole saw very often in order to brush out the swarf. Having learnt that, I was able to easily finish all 8 flanges with the original hole saw!
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😂I would have called it a living pine print, since it wasn’t blue. You crack me up. I very often prototype in wood before committing to machining a first part. So much faster and effective.
Glad to know that I am not the only one crazy enough to make a wood prototype
@@mrpete222 That wasn't just a wood prototype. That was a CAD solid model. (Cellulose Aided Design). That puts it right at the pinnacle of current design technology. Not only that, it works!
Happy to be one of the four to attend extra credit.
Another very interesting project and entertaining video. "It is old and has teeth missing, like me." And the extra credit is always appreciated, I'm not sure what grade I will get from your class but the extra credit will make up for any goofs I make on the final exam, or so I hopel.
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Hi Lyle,
Always enjoy watching you at the lathe or mill. Now you have an offset milling attachment ready to go. You and your family stay safe.
Nice attachment and great work.
Great addition to the milling attachment, anything to do with the 9 inch Southbend, also applies to my Boxford lathe, so this is very helpful, thanks Mr Pete, best regards, Dave
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What Mr. Pete really needs is a set of annular cutters.
Yes I do, and I mention that in a video that I made the other day that is still unreleased
Way to go Mr Pete😊
Nice work, Mr. Pete!
A great job on the offset adapter for you milling attachment Mr Pete. You always have great tips to make jobs look relatively easy even when they require fairly difficult machining operations. That comes with many years of experience. Keep up your great work.
Thank you very much. Yes some of the operations are much more difficult than they appear
Great video. Excellent work. Nice to have for the lathe. Thank you for sharing
Thank Mr Pete Always enjoy your videos
Great video as always. Thank you mr Pete
Famtastic! Love these!
I always stick around for extra credit! Great Video, Thanks!
When you have 3 milling machines, you may as well modify your light duty lathe’s light duty milling attachment to gain an inch & a half.
Great 2 part instructional video, as always.
Very much enjoyed watching both in the series! I wish I had an offset attachment exactly like the one you made! Since I don't have a Bridgeport, I'll have to improvise getting the plate made.... Thank you! --JWB in New Mexico.
FDR's likeness has been on the U.S. ten cent piece continuously since 1946. It commemorates his support for the "March of Dimes" campaign against polio.
Actually it was the Democrats getting even with Republicans for putting Lincoln on the penny in 1909. Before then it was unlawful to mint politicians on US coins, which was the undemocratic style of European monarchs. Ironic since FDR started the unconstitutional debasement of US coinage.
Thanks for making the offset attachment. It’s giving me ideas for milling with the limited slide travel on my 7” mini-lathe. The close ups on the SouthBend attachment are also helpful.
Thanks for sharing!
Tip; When using holes saws no matter the material, if you drill a hole through that intersects with the path of the hole saw it'll help clear chips and greatly speeds up the cutting process leaves a better finish and minimizes heat and adds to cutter life👍.
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You had me in stitches at 26:15... my wife gets on me all the time because I wear suspenders and a belt... “no one does that she sez...” I had to save this just so I could play it for her... you made my day!!! Thanks a million
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I finally graduated to suspenders only, lol! I'm old enough now that I really don't care and I know no one else does either! 🤣✌️
I agree Jim, at 77 I don’t give a hoot what anyone thinks! I do as I please
Enjoyed again the work you do, great .
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Good Day Mr Pete, I found it is very easy to sharpen hole saws using a cutoff wheel on an angle grinder.
I mount the grinder in a vice and turn on, and gently touch the face of the tooth with the wheel. You could
also use one of those inexpensive 2-3 inch steel wheels with diamonds, but I have many grinders and it is
easier for me to use them and the cutoff wheel [4 inch one]...of course, you need to use your Bino Magnifiers
to get in close, it does seem to matter if you do not alternate the bevels....and only grind on the face of tooth...
[AND OF COURSE DO NOT PUSH HARD ON THE CUTOFF WHEEL AS YOU ARE USING THE SIDE OF THE WHEEL
AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO FLEX OR IT COULD SHATTER] I have never broken a wheel yet, but I do use a face
shield......
I hope this helps someone, it sure makes cutting easier and you can sharpen well over ten times before the tooth
gets to small....best wishes, Paul down in Florida....
Happy Sunday Mr. Pete, not many of us know how to use all of the different arms included in a wiggler set. It’s a good topic for an almost lost skill
That would be good, but I think I covered most of that did I not?
Thank you for the videos, mrpete. I learn so much from watching them and appreciate your time.
Thank you Mr Pete. I was one of the four that you mentioned but you forget to say THOUSAND after the four.
just amazed people havent given you a factory yet... 😷😷👩👩👧👩👩👧
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I enjoyed seeing the red Jimmie's hat. I met you at the auction pickup.
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Thanks again.
I find if you hole saw steel if you drill a small hole or two in the path of the cutter makes a huge difference. The holes let the swarf drain out and not clog the cutter
I do that for anything that's more than about twice the thickness as the depth of the gullets no matter the material.
Actually, I have done that in the past. When I was making the ten thousand micrometer teaching aids years ago.
I used a 3 inch and a 4 inch hole saw to cut wood into plugs. I always sawed near the edge of the board and all of the sawdust came out easily
Nice video mrpete222. You are the teacher I wish I had when I was in school
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well I stuck with you till the end although I am a guy that wears suspenders and a belt LOL
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I always " stick with you " mr.pete this project is wright up my alley along with belt guard , for older sb lathe 😎👌
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Good morning to all of you
It certainly was, thanks mate.
Thanks Mr Pete.
Great project, little ironic that you used a mill to make milling adapter. I think I will make one for mine.
Great work on that offset base for the milling attachment, it looks 👌 I appreciate the setup on cutting the round dovetail and fitting to the base, I will be making an offset base that accommodates a much less expensive milling attachment, the South Bends are coveted on fleabay, other brands not as much.
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AvE showed a neat trick for hole saws: drill holes around the circumference of the hole saw in the work and it will help evacuate the chips.
I always enjoy your videos Mr Pete look forward to them every week thank you for doing them
Came out great, ty Mr. Pete!
The press-fit of the dove-tail part was especially well done! That really shows the accuracy _and_ precision of the machining on display. Brilliant work!
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Remove the Pilot bit Lyle. I never use a Pilot bit with the Drill Press.
Thanks Much.
Mike M.
You have to use the pilot drill for starting the cut. Without it that hole saw will walk you right out the door.
@@ellieprice363 I never use one on a DRILL PRESS, Never an issue on any Material I've cut though.
Stayed all the way! Thanks!
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed both parts 1 and 2.👍👀
Nice add to the versatility of the milling attachment. 😊😊😊😊😊
Interesting attachment. I have a Grizzley lathe that came with a milling attachment. They did it by adding a milling arm (vertically) with a separate milling motor. That way, the cross slide, and saddle feed were used to the X and Y travel. Z was achieved by raising and lowering the quill on the milling arm. It was better than nothing, sort of like the X & Y table attachment for the drill press. To you point, it lacked any sort of rigidity.
Another great video! Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family.
Scott
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Five Mr. Peterson! I stuck around too!
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Great work!
Thanks Mr Pete, I always learn something new by watching your videos. You’re simply the best teacher on UA-cam. I hope you and yours have a great Thanksgiving❤️
Thank you very much, I wish I could get more viewers
Hello Mr Pete. I enjoy your channel very much and was hoping to meet you at the Florida Flywheelers in January, but I'm not sure yet. I use hole saws to cut mild steel a fair amount. I make 5/8" plates with a 4 1/2" hole to accept axle spindles for radial stacking conveyors that a friend of mine manufactures. I usually get at least 16 plates out of each hole saw before I discard them. I discovered drilling four 1/4" holes around the cut will clear the chip & cuttings perfectly to speed up the operation and prolong the life of the hole saw. I do turn the hole saw very slow (about 60 or 70 RPM) in my Bridgeport and use lots of cutting oil. On a two inch hole I would only drill two holes 180 degrees apart. I realize this method may not always be suitable with notches left in both the center slug and the outer diameter. With the axle brackets that I make it doesn't matter because the spindles go through the hole against a shoulder and then welded both sides. I turn the spindles so they fit the hole and that leaves a 1/4" shoulder for alignment. They don't have to be perfect for low speed off road use. If a person is enlarging the hole in the lathe or by using a boring head in the mill the notches would probably be machined out anyway.
I have a Sheldon 11/44 model and Have one like this and I have a Grinder that sits there as well. Used the Grinder and have a small mill. Sometimes I use it for boring.
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Wow and I thought I had a milling attachment for my SB 9C. Mine is an angle adapter for the compound and then there is a small vise which looks like a large tool holder that attaches to the compound T-slot through counterbored cap screw holes. LOL, these milling attachments are going for more than my lathe is worth (!) Of course I bot the miller in the 70's and have never used it yet (and I don't have a milling machine! - but I do have a sloppy Chinese drill-press X-Y table and a very heavy Chinese drill press, so there's that)
Love the extra content! More machining!!
Pete,
Thanks for all your great content!
Just wanted to say I share your feeling about the hole saws, I’ve cut 4” holes through 1” thick stainless with them. Yikes! Scary, loud!, slow.
The thing I like better are the annular cutters. Better holes less noise and tougher. But you trade the slow and loud for the expensive and you need the arbor.
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I was thinking about buying some of those
Lyle, I'm a new subscriber to you channel and am very impressed by your content and teaching technique. I wish I could have had taken classes under you back in my high school years. Excellent work sir, I'm looking forward to going back and watching your other videos.
Thank you for joining me. You have 1400 videos to watch
I don't have any milling machines to use anymore. I left them in the tool room at the last place I worked.
However I did cobble up a milling fixture for my South Bend 9C. I agree it is light duty at best. Beats a drill press, hacksaw and file all to pieces though.
With that and a 4 jaw chuck for facing larger areas I have been limping along.
Great video and the indicator on the boring head is a great idea. Thanks 😁😎
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You can drill a chip vent hole when using a hole saw. Drill say a 1/4 inch hole just inside the hole saw perimeter but overlapping the cut. Chips will come out the bottom of the part. Maybe two holes are better.
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Lyle, back in my days in Bible college, one of our chapel preachers said it's scriptural to wear both a belt and suspenders. His proof text was Ecclesiastes 4:9-10, which says, Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labour.
10 For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow: but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath not another to help him up.
Was he serious? No. He was making a funny. It's not in the context, but might be a pretext.
I love that. I am a quote that in a future video. Although viewers do not like me to talk about scriptural things
Fantastic job Mr. Pete. Instead of pinning the plug. Could you use a tapered set screw? Maybe just a standard set screw will do?
Looks like another project for my Heavy 10" South Bend.
Not Only does it give you Extra Travel, but if turned 90° to the cross slide it would also move the centerline of the Milling Attachment back over the Cross Slide cutting down on the Excessive Overhang.
Along with making one with the 1 1/2" offset as shown, I might actually make one closer to 4 inches offset Just For That Very Reason, as my ways are worn enough there's only so much adjusting I can do on the gib to tighten it up mid-travel without binding at the ends. With the amount of overhang the Milling Attachment has, it TILTS Over Big Time when making all but the lightest of cuts.
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Great video, , but can I give you a tip, with the use of holesaws, first drill the centre hole ,then fit the holesaw and connect drilling , but just scribe a circle with the holesaw, then stop and remove the holesaw, then chuck a bout a 1/4 drill bit and drill 3 or 4 holes on your holesaw scribed circle , but the centre of the drill is centred towards the inside of the scribed circle so the 1/4 hole doesn't cut through the Max diameter of the holesaw circle, then refit the holesaw and finish the hole, the 1/4 holes gives somewhere for the chips to go and not clog the holesaw cut, woke great on thick plate ie
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Happy Thanksgiving one and all, " God bless everyone"!!!!
Nice treacher
I wonder if it would have made the vice more useful if it had the same mounting system as the base?
Make that 5... I stayed too. 👍
I just got to this, so it’s now 5 who stayed with you.
Beautiful job done Mr. Pete. But there is something didn't make sense to me! There is nothing to hold the offset base down to the cross slide. The only connection was the shrink fit between the dovetail and the bore, and the cutting force during milling might kick the offset base out!
Yes, I may add the two hold down bolts. But more than likely, I will never use the thing since I have three milling machines, lol.
Nice work Lyle, who were the other 3? Thanks…. Joe
So now I know the purpose of that mysterious dovetail plug that came with the Logan lathe I inherited many years ago. Missing is the 1/2 plate with two holes.
Consider it an extra for the 2 that hold the compound.
The time went quickly.
I have always enjoyed your videos.
Had you considered putting a couple Dutchmans in to hold the dovetail piece in the base? A couple 1/4-20 set screws would be a quick easy fix.
I was going to drive a pin thu it. And then didn’t bother
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Couldn't you have put a boring bar in the lathe and used the milling attachment to bore the holes? That's what it's for isn't it? Of course, that would make for a long video.
Actually I thought the milling attachment had enough jaw movement that you could put that plate in there, but it looks like that's not the case.
The original milling head was held to the cross slide with 2 horizonal bolts into the dovetail and 2 more vertically into the back of the slide but the adapter is only connected to the cross slide with 2 horizontal bolts into the dovetail? Do you see any issues with rigidity?
Your boring bar looks like it could benefit from a chip breaker ground into the face of the carbide. Should help keep long stringers from marring the bored hole. Can also increase the nose radius to improve surface finish. I'm an old toolmaker, love your videos and learn something new once in while watching them.
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28:27 "...for the four of you that stayed with me..." As of this comment, I'm sure that at least 6,000 of us (including me, of course) were still watching to find out how you held that awkward piece in the mill. I expect the extra credit to be reflected in the grade on my report card at the end of the semester.
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This would be a great project for me except I don't have a milling machine, just a milling attachment on my lathe.
I have found that a STEADY stream of cutting oil speeds up the hole sawing a lot.
Wow I have one of those milling attachments that came with my lathe that I just bought. Now I wish I had a mill? Lol😢
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