The Necrons, Slaves, Masters, Rebels, Invaders, Victims and Victimizers. Mechanical horrors with a tragic story. Intro by Henrik Sigeman / archwarhammer
Wait, hold on. So what you're essentially saying is that in order for the Necrons to effectively dominate the war against the Warp and psychic races, They Must Construct Additional Pylons?
One this that I miss about the Necrons was the idea that every time they died and were repaired, a bit of their memories would get damaged, so those footsoldiers on the front line who have died thousands of times have almost nothing left of their old selves, while the leaders who stay away from the conflicts may have only died a dozen or so times and as such simply gained a few eccentricities. I always felt this gave them more of a continuing feel of death and them loosing themselves over time. It makes them feel even more sorrowful and sad to me, thinking that when they first woke in their new bodies they had all their memories, but as ages past each time they saw their friends becoming less and less themselves, and finding the price of their immortality was to cease to be who they were in both flesh and mind. Simply being turned into a mindless robot immediately feels a lot less impact full. Also gives them less of a feeling of declining over time which I used to like.
"The C'Tans had absolutely no reason to suspect their mindless machine puppets would ever rise up against them. Imagine waking up one morning to discover that you've been taken prisoner by Lego figurines, and you'll have a rough approximation of the level of 'What The Fuck' the C'Tans experienced when the Necrons blasted them into star particles with big ass space guns." Pretty accurate.
@@bigshirley8658 Except that the difference between a human and an animal is far less than the difference between the Necrontyr and a bloody STAR GOD. We're not gods compared to horses and dogs. Both can kill us relatively easily. A single Necron has no chance against a C'Tan. Also I don't believe the C'Tan were fighting alongside the Necrons in as much as they were just pointing them at their targets.
"I feel I must remind you that it is an undeniable, and may I say a fundamental quality of man, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable." - Dr. Leonard Church
@@H-to-O climate change is inevitable, to be honest we should be changing the planet to suit our needs. For it to be a bit warmer isnt the worst thing. During warm periods on earth you humanity flourishes but during cold periods there is disease famine ect. The thing is we need to balance ourselves out. Soon enough we should be able to regulate our climate through terraforming so I'm not the biggest doomsday the sky is falling type when it comes to that. Think about a green Antarctica or sahara. In my opinion pollution in the form of plastic, soda cans, foam cups, oils and chemicals is the more immediate threat we need to get a handle on.
Don't know if you went down the rabbit hole, but yes, it goes on and on and on. The Orcs are the funniest and silly - like, absolutely absurd - but there is some really great, sad, depressing, but also in some ways hopeful mythology in this fantasy universe. The Tau seem like a waste of time to me, but I love almost every other bit of lore.
"... Often entirely stripped of certain emotions, you know, the useless ones, like love, compassion or mercy." I'd make a joke about this, but this being the WH40K universe, these emotions are literally useless as the entire universe is Super Saiyan Australia incarnate. Everything wants to instantly kill you, and the things that don't want to instantly kill you want to hurt you really really badly, and THEN kill you.
@@singletona082 Ah yes the well known 40Kchoice between instant death, fatal torture, and insanity. The tau maybe nicer, they will give you a job if you work for them, but they are fascists... like the imperium of man. But being a fascist in Wh40k is like being the good guys in a regular setting, since the Chaos Gods, the SM-Elves and the Tyranides are far worse than that.
"People call me a lot of things and the most jerkish of them accuse me of being 'The Deceiver' but I've decided to own that, so it won't constrain me." Notice the actual meaning of what is said here. Yeah, The Deceiver is smooth but not brilliant.
You know the necrons might be one of the only races in 40k I feel the most for. The guys only wanted to live without the fear of death from radiation only to be tricked into slaves. Who knows they may very well end up being the one race the Imperium might team up with when the tyranids eventually come.
shit i figure in the end it will be down the Humans and the Necrons against the Nids, and the Necrons want to get bodies back...considering the Nids want to consume all living material, this is a no brainer, they'd help the empire
Deceiver was called "The Messenger" when he was messing with Necrontyr and other C'tan. His true name was only revealed later. I'm kinda sure this is a quite smart nod to Sauron from GW writers.
i have always believe that the tyranids simply don't invade necron worlds because there is simply not organic life on them, they don't register life on the tomb worlds...
i also believed that the necrons (not necrontyr because as you mentioned they interestelar travel kind of suck ) used high tech ftl that was not related to the warp
@@Plankensen Some tomb worlds regained life. Many of them are dead, which are the ones the Tyranids avoid. I think it might just be because the Tyranids sense that there is nothing to devour.
I think that it’s more that the Tyranids know that they would never win attacking a Necron tomb world. As the Nercrons are actively trying to wipe out all of the Tyranids so they can have bodies they can inhabit again.
this one took forever to write! it deserves to be one of those random videos that blow up! join me in prayer to the bridge god to make it so, long may his structure stand!
All preise to the bridge god his rambler arch .... i know im gonna work forever in the salt mine but .... Is the imperator video gonna be next ( since you starter write it down)?
I think the problem is not that the Emporer would have issues with the warp, the Black Library books describe the Emporer as having literally wrestled against the biggest "gods" within the warp and taunted them during his "outer body experiences". The issue is that it would take him several decades to reincarnate and there's no telling if that is all it would take for the human race to snuff it under current circumstances.
@grazzer88 I think that the empower is beyond saving as their may not be anything left to come back I like the idea of another group of psyches merging their souls together in the same way that the shamans did to create the emporer
Or the Dark Throne - a unique World Engine from the Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2. Does not have a lot of weapons, but possesses a gigantic Pylon device, which, in the Necron ending, closes the Eye of Terror for good.
Honestly I think the eldar are more tragic. Yeah the necrons got a bad lot in life but the fall tho, what's worse? starting with nothing and gaining nothing or having literally everything and losing it in the most spectacular fashion. And creating a sadistic deity that gets dibs on your soul when you die to boot
Spook Space such is the tale of Fallen Empires..if the Imperium don't get its shit together their next..though I agree with the OP Necrons are the most tragic race in 40k the Necrontyr was denied by the Old ones they then turn to the C'tan but they betrayed them..the Eldar had it coming to them, they have everything but squandered it just to feel new experiences..
Agreed. The argument could be made that the Eldar have it worse but I find it really hard to think it tragic when they murderfucked their empire to its downfall. The Necron/tyr started with nothing and clawed their way to make a life worth living, when a way out was offered they took the relief. Only to get screwed over when another race simply had it all. Immortality and prosperity and the means to save them. The Eldar abused their prosperity to such excess that they hoisted their own petard. It’s a similar reason as to why I liked Angron: He started with nothing and strove against his fate.
Necrons: We hate the old ones because they won't cure the ailments that we can cure ourselves, but refuse to because it will make us too different from our ancestors. C'tan: We can use our god powers to remake your bodies not just without their ailments, but as vastly enhanced super soldiers. You just need to walk into this friendly 'Furnace Temple' (because your people have only ever had good associations with 'intense heat') and then you'll finally be able to continue the war with those guys who have gone out of their way to leave you alone throughout your entire history, including after you tried to exterminate them. Necrons: K then, seems legit.
By the time the Necrontyr walked themselves into those soul-rending easy-bake ovens, they weren't really in a position to choose one option or the other, also the Necrontyr who got turned into unliving automatons were not the same ones that first got off of their godawful planet... heck they were probably thousands of generations apart from those first explorers.
It's not like the C'tan overly advertised the whole "you'll be turned into essentially mindless slaves entirely different from your original selfs" part. They simply told the Necrontyr "We'll cure you". The C'tan didn't exactly lie, but they withheld some rather important pieces of information about HOW they planned on curing the Necrontyr. Also, at that point in Necrontyr history they didn't really have many options. They are in a civil war for dwindling ressources on a dying planet in constant pain and they just came out of a large scale war against the old ones, the ones that COULD have helped them but refused to do so. And in that situation the C'tan came to them and told them "we can solve all of these problems for you in one go." And it's not even that the ruling triarch just jumped at this chance with no though whatsoever. Remember that they took an entire year to come to a conclusion. The ruling triach absolutly knew that the C'tan were going to fuck them over, they just underestimated just how much the C'tan were going to fuck them over.
In regards to Tyranids designed by the Old Ones and that being contrary to the Old Ones Philosophy of maintaining all live. The Tyranids store all genetic information of the stuff they eat. They are essentially a big Genetic Databank, using whatever they have eaten in the past as a means to prevail in the future and as such you could assume the Tyranids function not only as fire line, depriving the Necrons of the resources and starving them out, but they also store the stuff they eat. It could be very likely that the Old Ones had a means to turn the Tyranids into reverse. If you assume the Tyranids not only store the genetic material but also the location where they got that material from, its entirely possible to have the tyranids return to that place and plaster the place with the exact genetic make up they had previously absorbed, thus reseeding the entire planet into its original form and since the Tyranids collect biomass, nothing really gets lost in that process. Just have to keep the Tyranids away from the Necron.. the Tyranids collect all the Necron's food and wait until they starved, and then go back and reseed the planets with what they had collected.
"These pilons by the way are the main reason why the Cadian gate can exist so close to the eye of terror..." "Ironically, Cadia is one of the most Chaos free planets in the imperium." No longer... The planet broke before the guard did!! XD
"Imagine waking up one morning to discover you've been taken prisoner by LEGO FIGURINES and you have a rough estimate of the level of "WHAT THE FUCK!?" the C'tan felt as the Necrons blasted them into star particles with big ass space guns." Best. Comparrions. EVER!! My fav part hands down.
I think its more that they judged the Necrontyr, and all other sub-Old One races, unworthy of their limitlessly powerful technology. They might have ulterior motives and turn on the Old Ones and destroy them. Which happened.
The love and death of all living things is scared we must not tamper with them as it would change who they are as a species it is there very nature for them to die and that is how they have evolved to love in die in this world. Think of it as that what's you may call it the star treks prime directive. Who care if there going to be there planet up we can't interfere with them they haven't reached a high enough tech level
kingcfc1 I don’t know they seem so boring compared to orks and the imperium. They basically have no feelings. That’s so not interesting. I like even mindless tyranids more because of the total apocalyptic attacks
I like how you didnt start with the space marines, by that i mean there are already other lore vids about them and i want to know about the xenos! so thanks arch and keep it up!
A plus for your theory: The old ones favoured life, true, but the tyranids conserve all life in a way through them "saving" all genetic information of the races they consume in their collective gene pool. All races the tyranids consume aren't extinct but live on in the tyranids.
except we "could" recreate mammoths from those genetic code. how easy is determind how much of the code is complete or needs to be filled out with well elefant or other type of similar sequences. Ethics is where "why/Why not" comes in... Should we recreate somthing ? it may not fit and die again simply because what they use to eat is not here anymore. And as well as "creating" life is against several religions. So goverment doing this might find themself isolate in the world afterward.
Especialy since in the old Necon lore, one of the C'Tan could absolutly be in the command of one Hive Fleet... [ *YES,* i still want to know where this will lead us GW! ]
So excited when I saw that you uploaded a full length 40k Lore video, these are soooo good, the level of research is insane, plus your great narration makes these arguable one of the best lore type video's on the medium.
+Arch Warhammer I really appreciate your lore series. I think it's one of the best on YT. I was really intimidated by the volume of the 40k universe. Just wanted to say thank you.
Can somebody please explain to me how these videos are so good despite me already knowing everything he's talking about. What kind of warpcraft is this!
Personality of the person you are listening to. It's why 50 shades of grey read by Gilbert Gottfried is so much more entertaining then the original book. If only that you can imagine Iago reading the book. :D It turns a turd into gold.
A great video Arch! Your humor and thorough explanation creates a great mix that holds ones attention. There's a lot of information provided in all your videos and it helps people like me understand the Warhammer Fantasy and 40k universes a lot more easily.
Arch, I'm curious about Necron stasis fields versus Imperial ones. According to your video, Necrontyr stasis fields do not cease the flow of time, but simply slow it down. Do Imperial stasis fields behave in a similar fashion? Specifically, does the stasis field encompassing the still-live-body of Roboute Guilliman behave similarly? If so, then perhaps that could explain why his wounds appear to be healing over time?
It seems that the designers took a lot of hints from the ancient egyptians for the Necrons and Necrontyrs such as the pyramids and their spiritual life.
in universe it's actually the other way round. Some Necrons were left awake to guard the tomb worlds, for 60 fucking million years that's dedication for you, and eventually some decided to travel the galaxy and basically export Necron traditions to other races in case they got wiped out.
Warhammer 40k was made after fantasy. GW most likely just wanted an equivalent to their Tomb Kings, that would fit in their new setting. The result, Egyptian Skeletons became metal Egyptian Skeletons in Space.
Your videos have me entranced, you're not telling me a whole lot I didn't already know, but for some reason, listening to you telling the story is so compelling, I could listen to you all day. Great work.
Loved the video. This was literally the first time I sat and and just listened to non moving video for almost an hour. Thanks for providing interesting info I would't have the stomach to look for myself!
I just want too mention this for anyone who’s into conversions, in the lore, it is possible, for a Necron lord too become overtaken by the destroyers madness, modified, then infected by the flayer virus... same goes for his tomb guard... you can have a whole unit of flayed one destroyers armed with war scythe, in a whole army of flayed ones... This must be made real!
Would be interesting if you were to do the heretical pre-retcon lore for the Necrons. I like that way more than the current one. A bit more menacing and less space mummies.
Arch I can safely say you are the best Warhammer channel on UA-cam, and I know of a fair few. Just a quick request.......... Can you please do a Lore video on the Dark Eldar? I know I've asked before, but I just wanted to remind you;)
Arch Senapi, for your next video, i request the lore of....MATT WARD! As he has returned to GW to forever destroy our collective buttholes and bring the end times, you should shine some light on the spiritual liege
So to sum up. Necrons - hey you guys think you can help us out? We really need aid here and we would be grateful if you helped us. Old ones - I got a better Idea! how about fuck you? some time passes Necrons - NO U!
The Enslavers must have been the Warp's twisted reflection of the Old Ones' admiration for all forms of life. It must be why they were full-fledged "life forms" as well as proto-Daemonic creatures that came from the Warp.
This vid has earned you a subscriber! Though I've grown up and distanced myself from the actual 40K tabletop game I still find the lore enjoyable rich & engaging. Keep the WH40K coming!
Hell yeah! now your talking about my favorite group of badguys the Necrons. it was actually my choice race i was going to use but the place which i was going to play got shut down so i never was able to build my army of Necrons.
Just finished my dissertation, I don't know why but Arch's lore videos can help me concentrate, even work better than those essay musics on UA-cam. SUBSCRIBED
I thought the deceiver was known by many names (mainly the messenger) among the necrontyr and the title "deceiver" was only known after its treachery was revealed
Having a blast listening to you while working, 38:00 Beautiful!!! XDDDDDD just superb hahaha. 40:44 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD brilliant. This whole video is gold. Super interesting video, love the Necrons since I heard of them, this puts some ground on how to understand them as a race, thank you so much for your effort!
C'Tan are not able to be destroyed by mortal means? After trapping one in a tesseract vault toss the vault into the super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. The stasis field would let you get it close enough to get it in before it could use its powers to get away. Yes, it would get out as it was pulled into the accretion disk and get plenty of plasma to nom on, but it would not be able to gain enough energy to stop it from passing the event horizon and experiencing the relativistic time dilation that would be much like the box it was in before. Finally it would be speghettified and deposited as a thin layer on the singularity. The Hawking Radiation would contain a record of the C'Tan, but the energy would have been transformed through gravity into another form entirely. Like running an animal through a blender. You could tell a lot about it from the remains, but the bunny isn't running around the garden anymore. C'Tan eat stars, so they are made of stars. Black holes eat galaxies. Maybe the Necron didn't think to try this because they didn't understand the nature of black holes? When dealing with super powerful aliens, do what Doctor Who would do.
@@KnightsWithoutATable Assuming the WARP doesn't break General Relativity. Which I think it might, as it allows the exchange of information above the causal limit.
Jon De Oliveira Uhhh, The evidence..... is in my car.... let me go get it (Hurries off to his car, coming back with a photograph of matt ward) Here is a sighting of the 5th chaos god inquisitor.
thealiencommunicator You only achieved in bringing photographic Heresy of the highest order into this judiciary altar! This proves not that the Space Smurfs are receiving unholy assistance, it only made this entire system worthy of multiple Exterminatii! Don't you think that we tried to find guilt on the "way too perfect" Ultrasmurfs at least 14 times a year? By this point, one would think they will be the ones to resurrect the Emperor and Maccrage will be the new holy planet, all after they casually stroll into the Eye of Terror and murder all the Gods!
I fucking love this video! Must have heard it 4 times by now. Every channel I'm subscribed to has one, or two of those, and they are pretty high on the most popular list.
This lore makes you feel a little pity for the necrons when you think about it because the circumstances that made them violent and crazy was just their desperate unfortunate reality.😢
This is awesome, but in desperate need of a follow-up. I love learning about the military organization, which is why the second nid video was one of my favorite vids of yours
Terrifying thought - if the Necrons simply want organic bodies to live in, a decent Arch-Heretek with a mastery of human cloning could create Necro-Sapiens. Humans with Necron technology, as an enemy of the Imperium of Man? I'd put my money on the IoM, but if it happened between the death of the Emperor and the Birth of the Star Child, then Human, Necron and Eldar could all be one species (oh the shadenfreude on that realisation), guarded by a Warp God. That would quite literally be the most terrifying force in the Universe. Space Marines backed by Necron tech and Eldar-Human Psykers? Chaos may not get to stay in the Warp very long!
Then add in the fact that you have the Death Korps of krieg get them kitted up to a Necron/elder level and fuck the space Marines they'll take over the Galaxy for you because krieg..... Krieg raises armies and they Have taken down chaos Space Marines even gone toe to toe with the forces of chaos armed with only a semi automatic flashlight ( #96 Lucius pattern) and shovel oh and with no body armor.
@@lucasbeck1391 yeah I noted a absence of the fact they literally implanted tech in organics that millennia later can still be used to make strong soldiers.
Great video! I have to say though- I binge- watched the whole Warhammer fantasy series on lore, armies etc, and I was humming *that music* the whole time this video. I wouldn't object if it came back :)
I'd love it, but there are bits he says here and there which makes me think he won't be the best at doing Lore on the Adepta Sororitas or the Ecclesiarchy. Which is sad because I do quite love them, and unfortunately most everyone who does Lore that I've seen completely derps on those subjects and just feeds the stupidity out there about them.
Well it was less about the Sisters Sororitas and more about the lead up and Age of Apostasy but this makes sense considering his general patterns. I mean he covered the War in the Heavens before covering Orks because as he said, context was needed. All in all I was pleasantly surprised. It wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it wasn't exactly the one sided lambasting and going "Faith is stupid, the emperor hates faith!" that I typically hear from people when they cover the Ecclesiarchy. It pulled as well from the version of the lore that the Ecclesiarchy is inherently greedy asshats before the Thorian Reformation. Which to be fair, some sources have said that so yeah. Don't blame him. He did take one moment to point out though that it was more a "people in power" thing than "Faith is evil", which was appreciated. So yeah, pleasantly surprised. Considering bits like on his Tyranids Planetary Invasion video he dismissed Sisters Sororitas as "... yeah they'll just kamikaze into the Tyranids and accomplish nothing" and a few other tidbits he's said here or there. I felt a bit too much was emphasized on the Leticio Divinatus which I mostly blame the Horus Heresy Novel series for. In the lore I remember originally reading it pointed out that the Imperial Cults weren't really a thing until Post Heresy. And that while many groups held up that book as a guiding text, it was by no means "THE" text. It wasn't a Bible, Qoran, Torah, etc. And the "Temple of the Savior Emperor" which was eventually the dominant cult that became the Ecclesiarchy over a millennia post Heresy didn't seem to have TOO much connection to it, in that they didn't follow it as a dogmatic text. That and in particular we don't actually know what that text really covers. I mean think of the fact that Guilliman's Codex Astartes fills an entire library with thousands of tomes on a topic as (relatively) concrete and direct as Warfare. How much do we think Lorgar who was the Master of Faith among the Primarchs might have written in his tome? Is it even really just one tome or is it some three million odd pages of philosophical ramblings, thought experiments, meditative techniques, etc? Because I could totally believe that. But in the Horus Heresy they tend to treat the Leticio Divinatus as if it's one book widely published in pocket size that has not been edited/culled/is a greatest quotes compilation of. And that the Imperial Cult is already in full Swing as the Heresy gets rolling. It's a matter of conjecture and I admit, but it does sound more plausible to me that the copies cultists are bandying about are basically like the pocket Codex Astartes that Space Marines carry around. A small selection of quotes designed to inspire thought, sort of a "Most Inspirational Thoughts" compilation than the direct copy of the volumes or just a cliff notes "Here's the concrete rules" sort of thing. We can kind of see that sort of tendency as well with the Tactica Imperialis. When it is quoted in lore, it tends not to be a direct "You shall affix bayonets and charge if you outnumber the enemy 5 to 1" or something quote. But just thoughts meant to inspire tactical thought in the most broad of terms like "Strike quickly, a war is most easily won when the enemy does not even know its fighting". So what is the Leticio Divinatus? What does it actually say? Does it just go "Emperor is a god, worship him, here is how" or does it say things like "Is a man better off standing alone against the terrors of the battlefield and the hardships of live, or better off knowing that there is a benevolent, powerful figure who watches over him? Is he better off more self reliant, or better off empowered by the faith in things greater than himself?".
How exactly did the Necrontier not evolve the necessary biology to survive and eventually thrive ON THEIR OWN HOMEWORLD?! They basically suffer in their ancestral biosphere for the sake of plot.
My headcanon is that, originally, their star was more-or-less fine. It's when it's started going to shit for one reason or another (maybe because of C'tan) they've began to suffer.
Just recently found your videos, normally fictional lore doesn't interest me much, I played WoW for years and tbh didn't really pay much interest in the lore and such, same for most games/books/movies(with the exception of Star Wars) but something about 40k lore was very interesting from the first time I was introduced to it. I remember seeing the tabletop figures in the store at the mall where I lived and thought they were amazing, although I never was able to buy them or play the tabletop then some day I want to buy and paint them solely for collecting them. Dawn of War was my first real introduction though, many years later and ever since I've played the majority of gameworkshops warhammer related games. I have really enjoyed your videos so far and have learned some fun and interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the time and putting the effort into making an enjoyable and informative wealth of knowledge and theories about a very interesting fictional universe.
personally I believe that the tyraniids are the old ones equivalent to the forrunners Halo. the (were so fucked hit the galactic reset button) method and I also think that the tyraniids were made to fight chaos not the necron
+Mortato Doesnthaveasurname The Eldar are the Forerunners, and the races they fought Ancient San'Shyuum and Humans. The Imperium... do I really need to tell you? And the other Factions (Bar Chaos) are the various races of the covenant. Finally, the Tyranids are flood, Chaos the insurrectionists and Old Ones Precursors.
It's unlikely as Chaos, or at least Chaos as we know it today, did not exists at the time of the War in Heaven. In fact it is stated that most demons emerged as a result of all the grieff, despair and total lack of common decency caused by the War.
Fucking genius line. "The Old Ones believed all life was sacred. The C'tan believed all life was delicious."
That quote had me in stiches XD Arch, your writing for your vids are fucking hilarious, good sir!
TheStabbyBrit Same can be said for Tyranids
Good one. I like your point
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Wait, hold on. So what you're essentially saying is that in order for the Necrons to effectively dominate the war against the Warp and psychic races, They Must Construct Additional Pylons?
Yes.
You need to build additional pylons. Every Protos ever.
I thought it was a StarCraft reference and i was right
In the pipe. 5 by 5.
mastershake42019 I just had to explain this was an Easter egg from alien 2 into SC... One of my favorites as a Terran main :p
One this that I miss about the Necrons was the idea that every time they died and were repaired, a bit of their memories would get damaged, so those footsoldiers on the front line who have died thousands of times have almost nothing left of their old selves, while the leaders who stay away from the conflicts may have only died a dozen or so times and as such simply gained a few eccentricities.
I always felt this gave them more of a continuing feel of death and them loosing themselves over time. It makes them feel even more sorrowful and sad to me, thinking that when they first woke in their new bodies they had all their memories, but as ages past each time they saw their friends becoming less and less themselves, and finding the price of their immortality was to cease to be who they were in both flesh and mind.
Simply being turned into a mindless robot immediately feels a lot less impact full. Also gives them less of a feeling of declining over time which I used to like.
Jacob Gamm so basically going hollow in dark souls?
@@eriktruchinskas3747 other way around
Same with the sigmarines, but better.
You could combine old and new lore together for a nice little head canon
That does sound a lot more tragic, I'm surprised GW didn't keep that canon.
"The C'Tans had absolutely no reason to suspect their mindless machine puppets would ever rise up against them. Imagine waking up one morning to discover that you've been taken prisoner by Lego figurines, and you'll have a rough approximation of the level of 'What The Fuck' the C'Tans experienced when the Necrons blasted them into star particles with big ass space guns."
Pretty accurate.
Not accurate at all. We don’t fight wars alongside our Lego. A closer comparison would be service dogs or horse overturning us
@@bigshirley8658 Except that the difference between a human and an animal is far less than the difference between the Necrontyr and a bloody STAR GOD. We're not gods compared to horses and dogs. Both can kill us relatively easily. A single Necron has no chance against a C'Tan. Also I don't believe the C'Tan were fighting alongside the Necrons in as much as they were just pointing them at their targets.
@@DTSephiroth 💯💯💯👍
"I feel I must remind you that it is an undeniable, and may I say a fundamental quality of man, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable." - Dr. Leonard Church
I got that reference
@Jonathan Stiles climate changes, so what?
Red vs Blue? I do not remember that quote.
@@H-to-O climate change is inevitable, to be honest we should be changing the planet to suit our needs. For it to be a bit warmer isnt the worst thing. During warm periods on earth you humanity flourishes but during cold periods there is disease famine ect. The thing is we need to balance ourselves out. Soon enough we should be able to regulate our climate through terraforming so I'm not the biggest doomsday the sky is falling type when it comes to that. Think about a green Antarctica or sahara. In my opinion pollution in the form of plastic, soda cans, foam cups, oils and chemicals is the more immediate threat we need to get a handle on.
@@robkrieg8301 If Antarctica becomes green that means all its ice is in the sea. Which means flooding on an unprecedented scale.
Lesson of this story: don’t be an asshole to those in need, even if you are a psychic frog-man.
i dont know shit about warhammer and just stumbled across this video but damn this sounds like the biggest, most in depth universe ever created
2 years late but its very complex.
Don't know if you went down the rabbit hole, but yes, it goes on and on and on.
The Orcs are the funniest and silly - like, absolutely absurd - but there is some really great, sad, depressing, but also in some ways hopeful mythology in this fantasy universe.
The Tau seem like a waste of time to me, but I love almost every other bit of lore.
@@inthefade Fuck you I love tau 😠
@@empresscleo1313 Give TAU some time and they might create an anime to light up 40k universe...
@@s.w.k.f.-nlmmdlessu4011 YES, BIG TAU ANIME TEDDY 😈
And suddenly I'm struck with an image of Szarekh leaning out of his window, shouting like a madman at a gas cloud orbiting their murdersun.
@kkthxk judging by his model ... probably
*old robot yells at c'tan*
@@notinspectorgadgetCTan steals sun. Mayor offers sacrifice.
"... Often entirely stripped of certain emotions, you know, the useless ones, like love, compassion or mercy."
I'd make a joke about this, but this being the WH40K universe, these emotions are literally useless as the entire universe is Super Saiyan Australia incarnate.
Everything wants to instantly kill you, and the things that don't want to instantly kill you want to hurt you really really badly, and THEN kill you.
And that's the things that don't want to mutate you into the servitude of entities that induce madness of one stripe or another.
@@singletona082 Ah yes the well known 40Kchoice between instant death, fatal torture, and insanity.
The tau maybe nicer, they will give you a job if you work for them, but they are fascists... like the imperium of man. But being a fascist in Wh40k is like being the good guys in a regular setting, since the Chaos Gods, the SM-Elves and the Tyranides are far worse than that.
@@ABW941 There is literally nothing wrong with being fascist, but aside from that, yeah tau are pretty cool
Volvirth Arguably the emperors love for mankind as a whole is the motivation for his actions.
@@benito9635 Yes there is. Fascist are impossible to live with. For the good of humanity, all fascists must die. SM-elves on the other hand...
I, for one, welcome our new necron overlords.
*Brandishes power sword*
HERESY
its gross , its racist .
+Catasstrophy Except me. I'm too glorious and shiny.
by the empraaa , did you wrote a fucking essay ?
Hello I am a C'tan, I wish to parlay with you.
Okay, what's your name?
Oh...The Deceiver...
...
"People call me a lot of things and the most jerkish of them accuse me of being 'The Deceiver' but I've decided to own that, so it won't constrain me."
Notice the actual meaning of what is said here. Yeah, The Deceiver is smooth but not brilliant.
It's full name is Mephet'ran the Deceiver right?
The Necron Codex states Mephet'ran means "The Messenger" in Necron Language.
Alex Martinovitch haha fool me once , shame on me
He had this title previously of the parlay or got the title After it ?
@@philippfelixkerberbomm832 After
You know the necrons might be one of the only races in 40k I feel the most for. The guys only wanted to live without the fear of death from radiation only to be tricked into slaves. Who knows they may very well end up being the one race the Imperium might team up with when the tyranids eventually come.
Not so much unite more of just. Hey we don't shoot you don't shoot us ok good. Much like what you said with the blood angles i believe it was
shit i figure in the end it will be down the Humans and the Necrons against the Nids, and the Necrons want to get bodies back...considering the Nids want to consume all living material, this is a no brainer, they'd help the empire
+Brass 'n Barrels Firearms Channel the tyranids avoid necron worlds.
Mortato Doesnthaveasurname yep..even those fucking roaches know whos really in charge
+Brass 'n Barrels Firearms Channel I don't see why the necrons would care about they tyrannids then.
Deceiver was called "The Messenger" when he was messing with Necrontyr and other C'tan. His true name was only revealed later. I'm kinda sure this is a quite smart nod to Sauron from GW writers.
"Cadia's probably the most chaos-free planet in the system"
*Pours out shot*
"Never forget"
Petulant man child can you please come back and lead the black crusades?
i have always believe that the tyranids simply don't invade necron worlds because there is simply not organic life on them, they don't register life on the tomb worlds...
i also believed that the necrons (not necrontyr because as you mentioned they interestelar travel kind of suck ) used high tech ftl that was not related to the warp
well. there is tomb-worlds that have life on them, quite a few .
@@Plankensen you're not wrong, as a matter of fact I believe gorkamorka is a tomb world
@@Plankensen Some tomb worlds regained life. Many of them are dead, which are the ones the Tyranids avoid. I think it might just be because the Tyranids sense that there is nothing to devour.
I think that it’s more that the Tyranids know that they would never win attacking a Necron tomb world. As the Nercrons are actively trying to wipe out all of the Tyranids so they can have bodies they can inhabit again.
this one took forever to write! it deserves to be one of those random videos that blow up! join me in prayer to the bridge god to make it so, long may his structure stand!
All preise to the bridge god his rambler arch ....
i know im gonna work forever in the salt mine but .... Is the imperator video gonna be next ( since you starter write it down)?
LONGER VIDS
Praise to the bridge god who funnels our enemy's into mortar friendly clumps and foils our enemy's numeric superiority
A lore video! All hail the might Arch :D
un-fucking-likely...
Those warp dampening pylons might come in handy if you wanted to give the Emperor a break to reincarnate or something...
I think the problem is not that the Emporer would have issues with the warp, the Black Library books describe the Emporer as having literally wrestled against the biggest "gods" within the warp and taunted them during his "outer body experiences". The issue is that it would take him several decades to reincarnate and there's no telling if that is all it would take for the human race to snuff it under current circumstances.
@Jonathan Stiles Unless they somehow get Magnus on their side.....
@grazzer88 I think that the empower is beyond saving as their may not be anything left to come back I like the idea of another group of psyches merging their souls together in the same way that the shamans did to create the emporer
Or the Dark Throne - a unique World Engine from the Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2. Does not have a lot of weapons, but possesses a gigantic Pylon device, which, in the Necron ending, closes the Eye of Terror for good.
Basically the old ones refusal to share their knowledge with the Necrontyr screwed the entire galaxy forever... Good job.
Seing that they created the Eldar I must say...like father like son.
Damn, the Necrons must be the most tragic race of 40k.
Honestly I think the eldar are more tragic. Yeah the necrons got a bad lot in life but the fall tho, what's worse? starting with nothing and gaining nothing or having literally everything and losing it in the most spectacular fashion. And creating a sadistic deity that gets dibs on your soul when you die to boot
Spook Space such is the tale of Fallen Empires..if the Imperium don't get its shit together their next..though I agree with the OP Necrons are the most tragic race in 40k the Necrontyr was denied by the Old ones they then turn to the C'tan but they betrayed them..the Eldar had it coming to them, they have everything but squandered it just to feel new experiences..
Claystead PLEASE TRANSLATE CANNOT UNDERSTAND
What could possibly be more tragic than falling into the heretical clutches of the Archenemy? Your heresy has been redacted. BLAM!
Agreed. The argument could be made that the Eldar have it worse but I find it really hard to think it tragic when they murderfucked their empire to its downfall.
The Necron/tyr started with nothing and clawed their way to make a life worth living, when a way out was offered they took the relief.
Only to get screwed over when another race simply had it all.
Immortality and prosperity and the means to save them.
The Eldar abused their prosperity to such excess that they hoisted their own petard.
It’s a similar reason as to why I liked Angron: He started with nothing and strove against his fate.
Necrons: We hate the old ones because they won't cure the ailments that we can cure ourselves, but refuse to because it will make us too different from our ancestors.
C'tan: We can use our god powers to remake your bodies not just without their ailments, but as vastly enhanced super soldiers. You just need to walk into this friendly 'Furnace Temple' (because your people have only ever had good associations with 'intense heat') and then you'll finally be able to continue the war with those guys who have gone out of their way to leave you alone throughout your entire history, including after you tried to exterminate them.
Necrons: K then, seems legit.
By the time the Necrontyr walked themselves into those soul-rending easy-bake ovens, they weren't really in a position to choose one option or the other, also the Necrontyr who got turned into unliving automatons were not the same ones that first got off of their godawful planet... heck they were probably thousands of generations apart from those first explorers.
It's not like the C'tan overly advertised the whole "you'll be turned into essentially mindless slaves entirely different from your original selfs" part. They simply told the Necrontyr "We'll cure you". The C'tan didn't exactly lie, but they withheld some rather important pieces of information about HOW they planned on curing the Necrontyr. Also, at that point in Necrontyr history they didn't really have many options. They are in a civil war for dwindling ressources on a dying planet in constant pain and they just came out of a large scale war against the old ones, the ones that COULD have helped them but refused to do so. And in that situation the C'tan came to them and told them "we can solve all of these problems for you in one go." And it's not even that the ruling triarch just jumped at this chance with no though whatsoever. Remember that they took an entire year to come to a conclusion. The ruling triach absolutly knew that the C'tan were going to fuck them over, they just underestimated just how much the C'tan were going to fuck them over.
The Adeptus Mechanicus would be super jealous of these guys if they weren't filthy Xeno technology.
The Inquisition gave them an exception to reverse engineer Gauss weaponry. They failed miserably.
They're basically AI now, which is explicit heresy to the Adeptus Mechanicus.
Nah, the adeptus is too busy learning from old memes on how to use toasters right now. Give it another few centuries
In regards to Tyranids designed by the Old Ones and that being contrary to the Old Ones Philosophy of maintaining all live. The Tyranids store all genetic information of the stuff they eat. They are essentially a big Genetic Databank, using whatever they have eaten in the past as a means to prevail in the future and as such you could assume the Tyranids function not only as fire line, depriving the Necrons of the resources and starving them out, but they also store the stuff they eat. It could be very likely that the Old Ones had a means to turn the Tyranids into reverse. If you assume the Tyranids not only store the genetic material but also the location where they got that material from, its entirely possible to have the tyranids return to that place and plaster the place with the exact genetic make up they had previously absorbed, thus reseeding the entire planet into its original form and since the Tyranids collect biomass, nothing really gets lost in that process.
Just have to keep the Tyranids away from the Necron.. the Tyranids collect all the Necron's food and wait until they starved, and then go back and reseed the planets with what they had collected.
Or at least that was the plan.
I guess it is a loophole to the not destroying the life. It is not destroyed it is still there just in a bit different shape.
except that the storing is done a hive level so if you wipe out the hive then all the supposedly stored genetic info is lost for good
It'd make them the entire plot of Halo as they'd be The Ark, The Flood, and The Halo Rings at the same time.
I'm guessing that a Tyrannid Lore video is next...that doesn't involve their equivalent of Titans.
Undead space Egypt!
Are robots undead?
Pretty much reanimated corpses, if you think about it.
+Juanpablo Montalvo The Necrons were once living things which now "live" again thus they are technically undead.
At lest it's better then "terminators in space".
Did somebody mention the Chaos 'android' figures from Space Crusade...?
Gonna be real, I’ve used this video to get to sleep on difficult nights for a few years now.
Thank you, arch.
Nothing warms my heart more then the cold bodies of undead killer robots.
"These pilons by the way are the main reason why the Cadian gate can exist so close to the eye of terror..."
"Ironically, Cadia is one of the most Chaos free planets in the imperium."
No longer...
The planet broke before the guard did!!
XD
The pylons were reactivated by those desperate for stopping chaos.
"Imagine waking up one morning to discover you've been taken prisoner by LEGO FIGURINES and you have a rough estimate of the level of "WHAT THE FUCK!?" the C'tan felt as the Necrons blasted them into star particles with big ass space guns."
Best. Comparrions. EVER!! My fav part hands down.
"To the old ones all life no matter how violent and wretched was scared, to the ca'tan all life was delicious"
Arch 2016
My sides
Don't see the old ones thinking all life is sacred while pointing a middle finger at a dying and scarse race.
I think its more that they judged the Necrontyr, and all other sub-Old One races, unworthy of their limitlessly powerful technology. They might have ulterior motives and turn on the Old Ones and destroy them.
Which happened.
The love and death of all living things is scared we must not tamper with them as it would change who they are as a species it is there very nature for them to die and that is how they have evolved to love in die in this world.
Think of it as that what's you may call it the star treks prime directive. Who care if there going to be there planet up we can't interfere with them they haven't reached a high enough tech level
@@sethgilcrist8088 well, all that moral high ground put them in quite the spot now did it
@@bojansarkanjac983 yes yes it did
Best race in the whole game
indeed
I sense heresy
i see you're an overlord of culture as well
*BY THE EMPEROR*
kingcfc1 I don’t know they seem so boring compared to orks and the imperium. They basically have no feelings. That’s so not interesting. I like even mindless tyranids more because of the total apocalyptic attacks
arch I am so happy you uploaded in the middle of my most boring class
get back to work on that essay you guttersnipe
You can watch videos any time, you only have one chance to do well in school and be successful
What the hell are you doing in class in August anyways? Either we Frenchmen are lazy as fuck, or you just have too short a schoolday.
+Khaorix nah it started August tenth, it is my last year but still I don't want to be here
+TH3LIGHTSPOR3 august tenth!??! what kind of summer vacations end so soon!
"The only way to stop the flood, is to starve them to death"
- Cortana, 2552
I like how you didnt start with the space marines, by that i mean there are already other lore vids about them and i want to know about the xenos! so thanks arch and keep it up!
It also makes sense to start with necrons, they are a very old race from what i understand. Older then the Eldar in fact.
They are.
The eldar was created/evolved to fight the Necrons.
Dude this is perfect to have on when you paint, you know the lore so well it felt like I was listening to a warhammer historian. Great video!
A plus for your theory: The old ones favoured life, true, but the tyranids conserve all life in a way through them "saving" all genetic information of the races they consume in their collective gene pool. All races the tyranids consume aren't extinct but live on in the tyranids.
That's not how extinction works. We have genetic code of Mammoths, but they are still extinct.
except we "could" recreate mammoths from those genetic code.
how easy is determind how much of the code is complete or needs to be filled out with well elefant or other type of similar sequences.
Ethics is where "why/Why not" comes in...
Should we recreate somthing ? it may not fit and die again simply because what they use to eat is not here anymore.
And as well as "creating" life is against several religions. So goverment doing this might find themself isolate in the world afterward.
Except we can not. DNA deteriorates
@@elvirjade4742 We can't, we can't create new life, except...we are talking about Old Ones here, which should be a piece of cake for them.
Your comment is like saying the person who steals your money is not a thief but he keeps your money intact with him lol.
Ah the necrons, they're just Tomb Kings with off switches.
Arch PLEASE make a Tyranid Lore video!! I feel like there's so much blank space in their Lore. So much room for theories and such.
Especialy since in the old Necon lore, one of the C'Tan could absolutly be in the command of one Hive Fleet... [ *YES,* i still want to know where this will lead us GW! ]
My LEGOS watched this video and now hold me prisoner!
Somebody help me!!
If they still allow you to visit the Internet it can't be that bad...
@@Self-replicating_whatnot they force him to play fallout 76, watch T-series and read buzzfeed.
Proof there are Fates worse than death.
So excited when I saw that you uploaded a full length 40k Lore video, these are soooo good, the level of research is insane, plus your great narration makes these arguable one of the best lore type video's on the medium.
+Arch Warhammer I really appreciate your lore series. I think it's one of the best on YT. I was really intimidated by the volume of the 40k universe. Just wanted to say thank you.
Can somebody please explain to me how these videos are so good despite me already knowing everything he's talking about. What kind of warpcraft is this!
Personality of the person you are listening to. It's why 50 shades of grey read by Gilbert Gottfried is so much more entertaining then the original book. If only that you can imagine Iago reading the book. :D It turns a turd into gold.
i know people hate matt ward but he made the necron lore so much more interesting than mindless robot slaves
They pretty much are mindless robot slaves.
but not cool
18:24
She is a woman of great wisdom.
A great video Arch! Your humor and thorough explanation creates a great mix that holds ones attention. There's a lot of information provided in all your videos and it helps people like me understand the Warhammer Fantasy and 40k universes a lot more easily.
Arch, I'm curious about Necron stasis fields versus Imperial ones. According to your video, Necrontyr stasis fields do not cease the flow of time, but simply slow it down. Do Imperial stasis fields behave in a similar fashion? Specifically, does the stasis field encompassing the still-live-body of Roboute Guilliman behave similarly? If so, then perhaps that could explain why his wounds appear to be healing over time?
It seems that the designers took a lot of hints from the ancient egyptians for the Necrons and Necrontyrs such as the pyramids and their spiritual life.
Nothing get's by you two, huh.
+Emil Vang Shhhhhhhh..... Their eyes need to be opened slowly for if to quickly, well it will lead to HERESY!
in universe it's actually the other way round. Some Necrons were left awake to guard the tomb worlds, for 60 fucking million years that's dedication for you, and eventually some decided to travel the galaxy and basically export Necron traditions to other races in case they got wiped out.
Warhammer 40k was made after fantasy. GW most likely just wanted an equivalent to their Tomb Kings, that would fit in their new setting. The result, Egyptian Skeletons became metal Egyptian Skeletons in Space.
GW imitating existing history and cultures? Naaah. TBH, first time I saw the Warhammer Fantasy map I laughed my ass off :D
Your videos have me entranced, you're not telling me a whole lot I didn't already know, but for some reason, listening to you telling the story is so compelling, I could listen to you all day. Great work.
Loved the video. This was literally the first time I sat and and just listened to non moving video for almost an hour.
Thanks for providing interesting info I would't have the stomach to look for myself!
I just want too mention this for anyone who’s into conversions, in the lore, it is possible, for a Necron lord too become overtaken by the destroyers madness, modified, then infected by the flayer virus... same goes for his tomb guard... you can have a whole unit of flayed one destroyers armed with war scythe, in a whole army of flayed ones...
This must be made real!
Would be interesting if you were to do the heretical pre-retcon lore for the Necrons. I like that way more than the current one. A bit more menacing and less space mummies.
I just recently discovered your channel and Iam amazed. Thanks for all your good work!
1000th like for this video and it is thoroughly deserved. Keep up the excellent work, Arch. Your lore videos are outstanding.
Arch I can safely say you are the best Warhammer channel on UA-cam, and I know of a fair few. Just a quick request..........
Can you please do a Lore video on the Dark Eldar?
I know I've asked before, but I just wanted to remind you;)
Finally a proper arch video longer than 30 mins :D
Yeah Arch, love your lore videos. Always a good day when you put one out. Thanks for the hard work, it is appreciated.
Glad to see such an expansive lore video on the Necron, thanks Arch!
1:45 necron deathmarks, immortals, lychguard, and cypteks also have some personality.
Arch Senapi, for your next video, i request the lore of....MATT WARD! As he has returned to GW to forever destroy our collective buttholes and bring the end times, you should shine some light on the spiritual liege
How dare you mention the 5th Chaos god, the destroyer of FLUFF!
YOU HERETIC!
Matt ward must be talked about the new fans must know his sins
I always though C.S Goto as a much worse fluffs writer than Ward, at least his codex are coherent and balanced against each other.
C.S. Goto :- "you get a multi-laser, you get a multi-laser, every one gets a multi-laser!"
MATT WARD LORE !!!!!
Man, your videos are so cool. Thank you so much for the effort.
Arch you're just a legend at this! I love your detailed and storied videos, prefect just prefect bruh
btw, long time viewer first time commenting. This video deserves a commendation!
Wait wtf?! Old ones made Orks? Love life my ass...
They were getting buttfucked by the ctan and necrons
Orks iz da life of da party.
Old ones made Korks. Then the Korks devolved into orks.
Korks are well..... Lets say... More diplomatic and intelligent than the orks.
They all knowing genius forgot to put a fucking OFF switch on them.
This is the reason why the necrons are my favourite warhammer faction
Thank you so much for this video. It's been very informative and entertaining.
Another awesome lore video. Thankyou for publishing content!
So to sum up.
Necrons - hey you guys think you can help us out? We really need aid here and we would be grateful if you helped us.
Old ones - I got a better Idea! how about fuck you?
some time passes
Necrons - NO U!
The Enslavers must have been the Warp's twisted reflection of the Old Ones' admiration for all forms of life. It must be why they were full-fledged "life forms" as well as proto-Daemonic creatures that came from the Warp.
When he said "angrier star" I just pictured earth, but the sun just continuously shouts obscenities at everyone and everything on earth...
I imagine the necron communicating at first with the C'Tan would be like a human communicating with a black hole.
this video made my day.
all I can say when I see a new arch video: AAAAAHHHHH YYYYEEEEAAAA
Love your video's Arch, nice work!
This vid has earned you a subscriber! Though I've grown up and distanced myself from the actual 40K tabletop game I still find the lore enjoyable rich & engaging. Keep the WH40K coming!
Hell yeah! now your talking about my favorite group of badguys the Necrons. it was actually my choice race i was going to use but the place which i was going to play got shut down so i never was able to build my army of Necrons.
It just hit me, basic necron soldiers and civilains are just like the rubric marines
Just finished my dissertation, I don't know why but Arch's lore videos can help me concentrate, even work better than those essay musics on UA-cam. SUBSCRIBED
love the video. great work Arch more lore videos please especially Warhammer
I thought the deceiver was known by many names (mainly the messenger) among the necrontyr and the title "deceiver" was only known after its treachery was revealed
Been waiting for this video, favorite race in Dawn of War :3
Having a blast listening to you while working, 38:00 Beautiful!!! XDDDDDD just superb hahaha.
40:44 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD brilliant. This whole video is gold.
Super interesting video, love the Necrons since I heard of them, this puts some ground on how to understand them as a race, thank you so much for your effort!
the necron history is so eventful and entertaining to hear :) nice job
C'Tan are not able to be destroyed by mortal means? After trapping one in a tesseract vault toss the vault into the super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. The stasis field would let you get it close enough to get it in before it could use its powers to get away. Yes, it would get out as it was pulled into the accretion disk and get plenty of plasma to nom on, but it would not be able to gain enough energy to stop it from passing the event horizon and experiencing the relativistic time dilation that would be much like the box it was in before. Finally it would be speghettified and deposited as a thin layer on the singularity.
The Hawking Radiation would contain a record of the C'Tan, but the energy would have been transformed through gravity into another form entirely. Like running an animal through a blender. You could tell a lot about it from the remains, but the bunny isn't running around the garden anymore.
C'Tan eat stars, so they are made of stars. Black holes eat galaxies. Maybe the Necron didn't think to try this because they didn't understand the nature of black holes?
When dealing with super powerful aliens, do what Doctor Who would do.
are there even black holes in warhammer?
There should be at least one at the center of the Milky Way since 40k takes place in the future of our world.
I guess there are. But I assume GW replaced them all with warp rifts.
C'tan have complete control over the material realm: They CREATE blackholes. Tossing them into one is basically like giving them a steak dinner.
@@KnightsWithoutATable Assuming the WARP doesn't break General Relativity. Which I think it might, as it allows the exchange of information above the causal limit.
Lore on why the Ultramarines are superior to everything?
Their 10 foot cocks and english accents
They became perfect after the coming of the 5th chaos god, Matt ward.
+thealiencommunicator Are you accusing a loyalist Chapter of Heresy? We demand your evidence!
Jon De Oliveira Uhhh, The evidence..... is in my car.... let me go get it (Hurries off to his car, coming back with a photograph of matt ward) Here is a sighting of the 5th chaos god inquisitor.
thealiencommunicator You only achieved in bringing photographic Heresy of the highest order into this judiciary altar! This proves not that the Space Smurfs are receiving unholy assistance, it only made this entire system worthy of multiple Exterminatii!
Don't you think that we tried to find guilt on the "way too perfect" Ultrasmurfs at least 14 times a year? By this point, one would think they will be the ones to resurrect the Emperor and Maccrage will be the new holy planet, all after they casually stroll into the Eye of Terror and murder all the Gods!
thanks for uploading about one of my favourite races
I fucking love this video! Must have heard it 4 times by now.
Every channel I'm subscribed to has one, or two of those, and they are pretty high on the most popular list.
This lore makes you feel a little pity for the necrons when you think about it because the circumstances that made them violent and crazy was just their desperate unfortunate reality.😢
I thought that, since Necrons were soulless, Warp magic was totally useless against them? Or am I just being stupid?
I mean, no amount of souls can save you from having every one of your atoms tipped apart via the power of the warp.
Arch you are simply the best! Please continue to make a video like this!
This is awesome, but in desperate need of a follow-up. I love learning about the military organization, which is why the second nid video was one of my favorite vids of yours
Terrifying thought - if the Necrons simply want organic bodies to live in, a decent Arch-Heretek with a mastery of human cloning could create Necro-Sapiens.
Humans with Necron technology, as an enemy of the Imperium of Man? I'd put my money on the IoM, but if it happened between the death of the Emperor and the Birth of the Star Child, then Human, Necron and Eldar could all be one species (oh the shadenfreude on that realisation), guarded by a Warp God.
That would quite literally be the most terrifying force in the Universe. Space Marines backed by Necron tech and Eldar-Human Psykers? Chaos may not get to stay in the Warp very long!
pariahs?
Then add in the fact that you have the Death Korps of krieg get them kitted up to a Necron/elder level and fuck the space Marines they'll take over the Galaxy for you because krieg..... Krieg raises armies and they Have taken down chaos Space Marines even gone toe to toe with the forces of chaos armed with only a semi automatic flashlight ( #96 Lucius pattern) and shovel oh and with no body armor.
@@lucasbeck1391 yeah I noted a absence of the fact they literally implanted tech in organics that millennia later can still be used to make strong soldiers.
If it wasn't for the fact DoW3 will be so crappy, Arch would have been an awesome Campaign narrator :>
wait..what? how do you know that? is that about the whole new art style thing or ..somthin I haven't heard yet?
Slap to the past xD. The game is bullshit. Do not trust SEGA with anything.
Great video! I have to say though- I binge- watched the whole Warhammer fantasy series on lore, armies etc, and I was humming *that music* the whole time this video. I wouldn't object if it came back :)
Very well done video mate, congrats!
If you haven't done so, could you do a video on the sisters of battle and the Ministorum??
Separate videos of course.
They like fire...
I'd love it, but there are bits he says here and there which makes me think he won't be the best at doing Lore on the Adepta Sororitas or the Ecclesiarchy. Which is sad because I do quite love them, and unfortunately most everyone who does Lore that I've seen completely derps on those subjects and just feeds the stupidity out there about them.
+Hitomi Salazar So what do you think about his video on the Sororitas?
Well it was less about the Sisters Sororitas and more about the lead up and Age of Apostasy but this makes sense considering his general patterns. I mean he covered the War in the Heavens before covering Orks because as he said, context was needed.
All in all I was pleasantly surprised. It wasn't exactly what I had hoped for but it wasn't exactly the one sided lambasting and going "Faith is stupid, the emperor hates faith!" that I typically hear from people when they cover the Ecclesiarchy.
It pulled as well from the version of the lore that the Ecclesiarchy is inherently greedy asshats before the Thorian Reformation. Which to be fair, some sources have said that so yeah. Don't blame him. He did take one moment to point out though that it was more a "people in power" thing than "Faith is evil", which was appreciated.
So yeah, pleasantly surprised. Considering bits like on his Tyranids Planetary Invasion video he dismissed Sisters Sororitas as "... yeah they'll just kamikaze into the Tyranids and accomplish nothing" and a few other tidbits he's said here or there.
I felt a bit too much was emphasized on the Leticio Divinatus which I mostly blame the Horus Heresy Novel series for. In the lore I remember originally reading it pointed out that the Imperial Cults weren't really a thing until Post Heresy. And that while many groups held up that book as a guiding text, it was by no means "THE" text. It wasn't a Bible, Qoran, Torah, etc. And the "Temple of the Savior Emperor" which was eventually the dominant cult that became the Ecclesiarchy over a millennia post Heresy didn't seem to have TOO much connection to it, in that they didn't follow it as a dogmatic text.
That and in particular we don't actually know what that text really covers. I mean think of the fact that Guilliman's Codex Astartes fills an entire library with thousands of tomes on a topic as (relatively) concrete and direct as Warfare. How much do we think Lorgar who was the Master of Faith among the Primarchs might have written in his tome? Is it even really just one tome or is it some three million odd pages of philosophical ramblings, thought experiments, meditative techniques, etc? Because I could totally believe that.
But in the Horus Heresy they tend to treat the Leticio Divinatus as if it's one book widely published in pocket size that has not been edited/culled/is a greatest quotes compilation of. And that the Imperial Cult is already in full Swing as the Heresy gets rolling.
It's a matter of conjecture and I admit, but it does sound more plausible to me that the copies cultists are bandying about are basically like the pocket Codex Astartes that Space Marines carry around. A small selection of quotes designed to inspire thought, sort of a "Most Inspirational Thoughts" compilation than the direct copy of the volumes or just a cliff notes "Here's the concrete rules" sort of thing.
We can kind of see that sort of tendency as well with the Tactica Imperialis. When it is quoted in lore, it tends not to be a direct "You shall affix bayonets and charge if you outnumber the enemy 5 to 1" or something quote. But just thoughts meant to inspire tactical thought in the most broad of terms like "Strike quickly, a war is most easily won when the enemy does not even know its fighting".
So what is the Leticio Divinatus? What does it actually say? Does it just go "Emperor is a god, worship him, here is how" or does it say things like "Is a man better off standing alone against the terrors of the battlefield and the hardships of live, or better off knowing that there is a benevolent, powerful figure who watches over him? Is he better off more self reliant, or better off empowered by the faith in things greater than himself?".
How exactly did the Necrontier not evolve the necessary biology to survive and eventually thrive ON THEIR OWN HOMEWORLD?! They basically suffer in their ancestral biosphere for the sake of plot.
My headcanon is that, originally, their star was more-or-less fine. It's when it's started going to shit for one reason or another (maybe because of C'tan) they've began to suffer.
One of my favorite races in the lore. Love it, and thank you.
Just recently found your videos, normally fictional lore doesn't interest me much, I played WoW for years and tbh didn't really pay much interest in the lore and such, same for most games/books/movies(with the exception of Star Wars) but something about 40k lore was very interesting from the first time I was introduced to it. I remember seeing the tabletop figures in the store at the mall where I lived and thought they were amazing, although I never was able to buy them or play the tabletop then some day I want to buy and paint them solely for collecting them.
Dawn of War was my first real introduction though, many years later and ever since I've played the majority of gameworkshops warhammer related games.
I have really enjoyed your videos so far and have learned some fun and interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the time and putting the effort into making an enjoyable and informative wealth of knowledge and theories about a very interesting fictional universe.
personally I believe that the tyraniids are the old ones equivalent to the forrunners Halo. the (were so fucked hit the galactic reset button) method and I also think that the tyraniids were made to fight chaos not the necron
maybe they were an all purpose species, also I thought that was the eldars job until they literally fucked it all up.
+Mortato Doesnthaveasurname The Eldar are the Forerunners, and the races they fought Ancient San'Shyuum and Humans. The Imperium... do I really need to tell you? And the other Factions (Bar Chaos) are the various races of the covenant. Finally, the Tyranids are flood, Chaos the insurrectionists and Old Ones Precursors.
hey now that's our job :)
It's unlikely as Chaos, or at least Chaos as we know it today, did not exists at the time of the War in Heaven.
In fact it is stated that most demons emerged as a result of all the grieff, despair and total lack of common decency caused by the War.
Damn legos
I've been waiting for you to do this. May your video blow up!
Your channel was just what i was looking for.