@@xyarlo9369 honestly they could fix it by making the rogue bounces only work on class cards, since it's pretty apparent it was meant to be used with the new combo minion or something
Missed opportunity calling the Shaman weapon Jazz Bass when they could have made it a different instrument (piano, drum kit, rhythm guitar) and had a double bass elemental/totem called Walking Bass
Nemsy is the Fen Creeper riding Warlock. Rin is the Warlock from Kobolds and Katacomps set where you go on a mini quest to summon a pit lord that destroys your opponent deck.
So Rin against combo is: - (a benefit) just 2 Gnomeferatus - (a downside) gets the enemy 2 cards deeper into their deck to get to their combo pieces - ( a "?") if you got any discard synergy Against not combo is: - ("?") 2 gnomeferatus - (a neutral?) maybe gets opponent better cards - (a "?") if you got any discard synergy Maybe it could be played in a mill type of deck (maybe in wild) since it's -4 from the opp's deck
Overload synergy has always been bad, I don't know why they keep trying it. What's worse, they never push it hard enough either. The only time when overload is good is when you can get big minions on early turns (a.k.a. mana "cheat" for aggro).
Yeah Shaman's shaping up to be awful unless there's a bunch of good overload stuff in core (which would be weird because most of the few good overload stuff is rotating out). At least it has the brass elemental...
@@blahthebiste7924 bruh what??? Overload destroys your next turn so it's a tradeoff, thing is we don't have good overload cards, Overload would be a good effect If done right but blizzard sucks at that
Being quite the nerd, I find it funny that they chose a tuba (an instrument that, by itself, can not play a chord) as the instrument pictured on the card "Altered chord". Maybe it's a magical instrument?
Could you make a rogue deck that just bricks the opponent's side of the board? shadowstep like cards to bounce the guy that makes a 0/3 instrument case and add the secret that puts minions in a sack?
"same stats as the fen creeper that Rin famously rides on" THIS!!! is a job for...! *reads comments* ........... the 69 people that beat me to it, dammit!!!
Trump: claims people are just whining about rouge. Rouge: has been nerfed 8 times in 3 months and is still really good at legend. Clearly it’s just whining and rouge isn’t an issue. Also how does Trump not see the Astolor combo in rouge?
Yeah, I mean... okay... this new Rogue spell, I guess, could potentially be broken if there are strong Battlecry minions that can be re-played. Let's hope they don't print a card like "Battlecry: Deal 14 damage" or something, that would be mental.
I'm going insane I only care about mage for this set as it has a sick new free skin and is associated to my favorite genre but we still have zero cards revealed
@@ZestyLimeStudios same. I'm not a wild meta chaser but mill rogue (and druid tbh) is just not fun to play against and I can't help but seeing that become a problem. I'm pretty sure rogues have even run vanish on occasion in wild just to get more value. I think it might be phased out a while back but still
One of rogues most broken tools you mean, it's a 0 mana card with mana cheat and a bounce effect, please tell me any other 0 mana card that is anywhere near as powerful, hell, tell me a 1 mana card as powerful? I'd even say shadow step is stronger than most 2 mana cards.
@@bevvvy1374 because it has lead to multiple other cards being broken, anything with a strong battlecry becomes insanely good with bounce + mana cheat. It enables a lot that makes rogue op/unfun
Worse than shadowstep, worse than Potion of Illusion, worse than Daring Escape. You don't keep discounts for the next turn so it's maximium application is in OTK, and it's legendary so inconsistent for that, unless you let the rogue draw their entire deck. If it ends up getting used in anything broken it'll be because the cards being bounced is broken not because of this dustbait.
@@onenof10 worse than potion and worse than daring escape??? It solves the board space issue and is a mana less, and it makes everything cost 1, how tf is dering escape better?? And it's not like it's 3 cost means anything It's rogue and they have infinite draw so "inconsistent" is a bad argument
@@hollowlord8548 It makes everything cost one *for that turn*. For one mana more, Potion set that Scabbs/Coldlight Oracle/Spirit of the Shark/whatever to one mana forever, letting them act as combo enablers in later turns. "But maybe I don't need to discount my cards, all I want is them back in my hand to be played later." Well, then Daring Escape does that for a third the cost and is a common you can run duplicates of. The only case where Bounce Around is better than lower rarity cards is exactly the case where you need to bounce and play multiple cards on the same turn to OTK. And while that may actually become a viable alternate win condition at some point, it is still a legendary card, so in 20% of games it will be in your last six cards. In Wild at least, if you're letting your opponents draw their entire deck you are going to lose to any number of combo decks, there's nothing special about this one.
Inzah isnt even a good card. Theres no gurantee you draw him turn 5 or ever. Guff works because druid just keeps drawing and its still impactfull even if you draw him late.
Am I the only one that feels like pairing rogue and hip hop feels a bit racist? Makes a bit more sense with the bounce/break dance I guess but you quite a bit of game knowledge to get that pun since bounce, while widely adopted, is not an official name for the mechanic.
I would like to apologize to all gnomes for mistaking Nemsy and Rin
I was about to say...
Tragically trump’s ankles were stabbed by the finest Gnomish rogues before he was turned into a chicken.
Not all gnomes look the same.
Some of Trumps best friends are gnomes.
Nemsy sucks
Nemsy rides on the Fen Creeper not Rin.
Rin is from the Kobolds and Catacombs expansion.
how dare you question the mayor's words?
I always thought it is Nemsy who's riding the Fen Creeper, not Rin. Did Trump make a mistake or was I wrong the whole time?
Trump made a mistake
it's nemsy, trump made a mistake
Yeah she’s 3/6 because that was her previous card statline
@@greyep3145 exactly
And I did never see something riding the thing at all. I do not pay enough attention to all those cool artworks I think 😅
good thing rogue gets even more bounces with astalor still in pool, surely this wont be a problem
Not if you kill them before turn 10
What you don't like you're opponent getting 3 copies of every form in hand for 1 mana each?
Maybe they will make the right move and simply delete Astalor from the game. Surely they won't make the same mistake 3 expansions in a row, right?
@@xyarlo9369 honestly they could fix it by making the rogue bounces only work on class cards, since it's pretty apparent it was meant to be used with the new combo minion or something
might be foreshadowing that shadow step is finally rotating
Missed opportunity calling the Shaman weapon Jazz Bass when they could have made it a different instrument (piano, drum kit, rhythm guitar) and had a double bass elemental/totem called Walking Bass
Would everyone like to hear Ron Burgundy play some yazz flute?
You're right, missed opportunity 😔
inzah is a 2018 card in a 2023 power level set expecting a buff to 4 mana and it still being unplayable
Nemsy is the Fen Creeper riding Warlock. Rin is the Warlock from Kobolds and Katacomps set where you go on a mini quest to summon a pit lord that destroys your opponent deck.
"We'll finally rotating Shadow Steps"
Yeeeeeey
"Not really, we just change it to be more broken than before"
Yeah... Great...
shadow step doesn' rotate
Time for roguestone again
So glad that now rogues endlessly copying Astalor get to do it more often and get to leave stats behind when they do.
I'm so bored of Astalor. Hope he gets nerfed again.
So Rin against combo is:
- (a benefit) just 2 Gnomeferatus
- (a downside) gets the enemy 2 cards deeper into their deck to get to their combo pieces
- ( a "?") if you got any discard synergy
Against not combo is:
- ("?") 2 gnomeferatus
- (a neutral?) maybe gets opponent better cards
- (a "?") if you got any discard synergy
Maybe it could be played in a mill type of deck (maybe in wild) since it's -4 from the opp's deck
Overload synergy has always been bad, I don't know why they keep trying it. What's worse, they never push it hard enough either. The only time when overload is good is when you can get big minions on early turns (a.k.a. mana "cheat" for aggro).
Yeah Shaman's shaping up to be awful unless there's a bunch of good overload stuff in core (which would be weird because most of the few good overload stuff is rotating out). At least it has the brass elemental...
Meanwhile in Wild, totem shaman & shudderwock shaman is nuts!
@@ZestyLimeStudios but not tier 0, they are quite good
Overload shouldn't be strong, your opponent getting powerful shit before you can deal with it has never been fun
@@blahthebiste7924 bruh what??? Overload destroys your next turn so it's a tradeoff, thing is we don't have good overload cards,
Overload would be a good effect If done right but blizzard sucks at that
🤞Not another rogue meta, not another rogue meta, not another rogue metaaa🤞
Being quite the nerd, I find it funny that they chose a tuba (an instrument that, by itself, can not play a chord) as the instrument pictured on the card "Altered chord". Maybe it's a magical instrument?
Maybe that's why it is altered?)
@@Straga_Severa Haha. Sure, why not. Altered to be less. A very unharmonious chord. Or maybe it's arpeggiated?
Could you make a rogue deck that just bricks the opponent's side of the board? shadowstep like cards to bounce the guy that makes a 0/3 instrument case and add the secret that puts minions in a sack?
You could do this a few expansions ago with the 2/3 that summons a 0/3 taunt for your opponent
Oh god no, that Rouge spell is gonna break wild.
1:02 Isn't the Fen Creeper what Nemsie rides on? Not Rin?
Yes
@@SireBroodgar Ahh, thanks
nerd
I could imagine with the direction Overload shaman is going this expansion that criminal lineup could be used one way for massive stat production
Unless those stats have charge the deck will be shit.
Or lots of Rags.
1:05 Bruh that's Nemsy's Fen Creeper, Rin's some rando gnome
Rando Gnome that performs the ritual to summon Azari to nom on some cards
damn, this expansion doesn't look too fun for me
The original Rin is also a 5 mana 3/6 taunt
Our gift of shadowstep cheats us. *bwaaaa BWA BWAAA*
Does breakdance keep stat buffs? The first thing it says is return the card to your head and when cards go from field to hand they lose buffs.
Usually it would snapshot the stats before bouncing it
"same stats as the fen creeper that Rin famously rides on"
THIS!!! is a job for...!
*reads comments*
........... the 69 people that beat me to it, dammit!!!
finally!some shaman questline support
Not a moment too soon!
Trump: claims people are just whining about rouge.
Rouge: has been nerfed 8 times in 3 months and is still really good at legend.
Clearly it’s just whining and rouge isn’t an issue. Also how does Trump not see the Astolor combo in rouge?
Isn't the point of the "bouncing" rogue cards to re-play all your combo cards?
Yup
i wonder which of these cards trump will be using in his f2p run this expansion (which is something that will be happening)
I can see some kind of combo rogue being instantly broken followed by an immediate nerf lmao but only time will tell
I'm out of the loop, anyone have a clue when the core set is being announced?
Yeah, I mean... okay... this new Rogue spell, I guess, could potentially be broken if there are strong Battlecry minions that can be re-played. Let's hope they don't print a card like "Battlecry: Deal 14 damage" or something, that would be mental.
ok so which class is getting molten chord?
7:33 Did Trump do bad math here? I had to double take where the accent came from 🤣
Flowrider can discover the snapshot from the legendary photographer for just excessive value
Is the phlacerty still in standard rotation when this set comes out? Multiplying Rins death rattle 7 times seems insane
Will rotate
@@drtenma2112 ok ty. I thought that was the case but wasnt sure
I'm going insane I only care about mage for this set as it has a sick new free skin and is associated to my favorite genre but we still have zero cards revealed
Trump you should know better, it's Nemsy Necrofizzle that rides the creepers, though she is depicted riding a Bog Creeper not a Fen Creeper.
Wild mill rogue is just an otk now
I play wild & that spell is gonna break wild
@@ZestyLimeStudios same. I'm not a wild meta chaser but mill rogue (and druid tbh) is just not fun to play against and I can't help but seeing that become a problem. I'm pretty sure rogues have even run vanish on occasion in wild just to get more value. I think it might be phased out a while back but still
Rin famously rides on Fen Creeper?
Trump can't tell gnomes apart confirmed.
Not catching the Flo Rida meme, lolk.
FREEBIRD BOUNCY CASTLE ROGUE TIER 1 CALLING IT NOW
rin is actually worse than fen if she dies on your opponents turn, since they get the cards first
7:33 hahah :D
Audio decibel levels are too high at times, reducing in ear piercing sounds. Fix pls.
Breakdance is prolly OP.
rin would be sick in E.T.C. choices
Do people really complain about shadowstep? It’s one of rogue’s most important tools
One of rogues most broken tools you mean, it's a 0 mana card with mana cheat and a bounce effect, please tell me any other 0 mana card that is anywhere near as powerful, hell, tell me a 1 mana card as powerful? I'd even say shadow step is stronger than most 2 mana cards.
OK and? Why does it being good enough to consistently use all this time mean anything?
@@bevvvy1374 because it has lead to multiple other cards being broken, anything with a strong battlecry becomes insanely good with bounce + mana cheat. It enables a lot that makes rogue op/unfun
There is no way that Rogue legendary isn't getting nerfed
Worse than shadowstep, worse than Potion of Illusion, worse than Daring Escape. You don't keep discounts for the next turn so it's maximium application is in OTK, and it's legendary so inconsistent for that, unless you let the rogue draw their entire deck.
If it ends up getting used in anything broken it'll be because the cards being bounced is broken not because of this dustbait.
@@onenof10 worse than potion and worse than daring escape??? It solves the board space issue and is a mana less, and it makes everything cost 1, how tf is dering escape better?? And it's not like it's 3 cost means anything
It's rogue and they have infinite draw so "inconsistent" is a bad argument
@@hollowlord8548 It makes everything cost one *for that turn*. For one mana more, Potion set that Scabbs/Coldlight Oracle/Spirit of the Shark/whatever to one mana forever, letting them act as combo enablers in later turns.
"But maybe I don't need to discount my cards, all I want is them back in my hand to be played later." Well, then Daring Escape does that for a third the cost and is a common you can run duplicates of.
The only case where Bounce Around is better than lower rarity cards is exactly the case where you need to bounce and play multiple cards on the same turn to OTK. And while that may actually become a viable alternate win condition at some point, it is still a legendary card, so in 20% of games it will be in your last six cards. In Wild at least, if you're letting your opponents draw their entire deck you are going to lose to any number of combo decks, there's nothing special about this one.
Rin is not Nemsy.
just going to put a voice in for a new f2p series
Flowrider - heh. i see what they did there.
Thief rogue right now is extremely powerful. Literally impossible to win against in most cases. Now they have more ammunition to play with. Fml
Surly nothing broken will happen with the rouge legendary spell
14 mana.
Jens ❤
Good to see Warlock still toxic
nemsy rides fen creeper not rin
I’m pretty sure Flowrider is a play on Flo Rida, the rapper. Which is ironic because its a Shaman card and Shamans are Jazz, not hip hop.
No shit
Remember guys
Even if your life is a meme, dont let that get you down
For Trump we'll always be a 5/5 meme
Trumps card reviews aren’t later then everyone’s else??
I always wanna watch you review these hut you take too long to upload
Think I'm gonna sit this expansion out until the inevitable rogue nerfs
bouncer rouge incoming
I'm not sure how to describe Trump in this review besides Cringe-Kino
Rogue is about to be even more of a problem. I love it
14 mana
How did Trump forget original Rin 🧐🧐
Inzah isnt even a good card. Theres no gurantee you draw him turn 5 or ever. Guff works because druid just keeps drawing and its still impactfull even if you draw him late.
FEATURING GARONA
Meta Breakdance
Am I the only one that feels like pairing rogue and hip hop feels a bit racist? Makes a bit more sense with the bounce/break dance I guess but you quite a bit of game knowledge to get that pun since bounce, while widely adopted, is not an official name for the mechanic.
Wtf rogue.
Yoo F2P pls
Rin rides Fen Creeper, not Nemsy
i am never be the 1st to comment. so here it is.
third*
First
first
do you not feel embarrassed being like this?