CRF450L Ride Review: Coming from a WR250R

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  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
  • Video and review of my brand new 2019 CRF450L. I talk about what's great and what's not, and how it compares to my current bike, a 2012 WR250R.
    CRF450L Build Page: pyr8moto.com/cr...
    500-mile updated review:
    • CRF450L - 500 Mile Rid...
    If you're thinking about getting one of these, and especially if you're riding a WR250R or similar bike today, hopefully this video helps you decide.
    UPDATE:
    I posted a maintenance interval video as well, comparing the service intervals for the new CRF450L to other bikes in the segment:
    • 2018/2019 Dual Sport M...

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  • @DukeOfDC
    @DukeOfDC 6 років тому +35

    “I’m a little bit fat” 😂 words have never resonated with me more... haha. Congratulations on the bike! I’ve had my eye on one of these for a while too.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому +2

      lol, thx

    • @theyeetus1428
      @theyeetus1428 3 роки тому

      @@billding6685 It supposedly can handle up to 210 pounds but you could probably change the suspension out for something that works. Also you could just lose some weight because most bikes like this can't handle too much weight.

    • @eriksforestryvision8751
      @eriksforestryvision8751 3 роки тому +1

      I'm not fat but dude that's fucked up hell be fine on the bike. Dont tell the dude to loose weight.
      Maybe we should tell you something that might hurt your feelings punk

  • @mjj4246
    @mjj4246 6 років тому +53

    your wife is awesome

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому +4

      yes, yes she is :)

    • @florinsi
      @florinsi 4 роки тому

      So sad you sound so gay ... ;)

    • @HardcoreWeeaboo
      @HardcoreWeeaboo 4 роки тому

      @@florinsi lol

    • @court2379
      @court2379 4 роки тому +2

      It was probably more pragmatic. She didn't want to listen to him pine over it for the next three months until she finally gave in anyway. 😬
      At least I think is why mine didn't fuss when I bought one a few weeks back. A week later she did mention the trip she was planning though...😣

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  3 роки тому +1

      @@court2379 funny how that happens :)

  • @goodboyringo9716
    @goodboyringo9716 4 роки тому +13

    Tell your wife to call my wife!

  • @bithynian3700
    @bithynian3700 6 років тому +25

    Thank you for the honest review. Btw how amazing is WR250R. Almost 11 years old design now and its still up there shining. What a milestone dualsport bike. I would never sell mine unless for a wr450r :)

  • @dannymofopans
    @dannymofopans 4 роки тому +5

    You really need to spend 5 minutes every hour tweaking your suspension for your weight, area and terrain every hour of riding for the first week or two of riding. Back a flat head screwdriver and small hammer to adjust sag, and a little flat head for rebound and compression and just tweak it as you go. There’s ton of info on forums too. I PROMISE it will make you so much happier

  • @tareqibnziyad4732
    @tareqibnziyad4732 4 роки тому +1

    The best motorcycle review ever hands down. Thank you for the exellent work. Loved your safe riding. Stay safe.

  • @elijahbrooks8589
    @elijahbrooks8589 6 років тому +6

    I checked one out. It seemed to be a dirt bike with signals. So I'm holding out to see longevity.

  • @jimc793
    @jimc793 6 років тому

    Very thorough and comprehensive review. I’m sick I sold my plated XR650R. Owned it from 2002-2016. Never a hiccup. Rode it off road and set up as a sumo, probably put 20,000+ miles on it. Bullet proof. Was hoping the 2019 CRF450L might fill the hole in my garage but from what I’m reading and seeing online, I don’t think it’ll do. Very good and useful review.

  • @DirtRiderLife
    @DirtRiderLife 3 роки тому +5

    Great video, my new CRF450L is sitting in my garage waiting for spring, we have winter here in Canada, I'm so excited to try this bike out more then just the end of my driveway!

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  3 роки тому

      wishing you a short winter :)

  • @miguelmiranda9122
    @miguelmiranda9122 6 років тому +28

    Congrats on your new bike! Thanks very much fo this review. Abut time someone did a no BS review. You rode the heck out of it for the first ride, well done! Looking forward for further reviews. Having a klr and a 450x this will be my future bike. Love both of my bikes but the klr is to heavy and the 450x, well here in CA almost imposible to plate and maintenance would be just to much. I can deal with what honda asís for the 450L, cause in return ill get what I want. I do a lot of Baja riding and this is the bike for it. Thank again, you really helped a lot.

    • @christophervillarreal8565
      @christophervillarreal8565 6 років тому +2

      miguel miranda I got the 450x plated in Maryland which is even harder maybe but yeah love it thing is a monster but heavy for motocross but for dual sport it was great off road but not so great over 55mph unless you made serious gearing adjustments

    • @noyopacific
      @noyopacific 6 років тому +1

      My riding buddy just got a 2002 CRF450R that is plated in California. Someone told him the cut-off for a CA plate on the bike was 2004. The plate was on non-op and it had an expired green sticker. Getting the plate renewed was no problem but he did have to pay late penalties on the expired green sticker. He can put the green sticker on non-op when it comes up for renewal so he won't have to keep paying the unnecessary fee. The gear spacing is pretty close the to get much highway speed out of the "R." It seems to top out around 65 mph.

    • @kyjelly5524
      @kyjelly5524 6 років тому

      Christopher Villarreal my bike is terrible on the road after like 45-50. It’s an 09 450x

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому

      Thx, appreciate the feedback

    • @motosporttouring
      @motosporttouring 6 років тому

      You can plate a green sticker bike in CA. A guy that works at the DMV told me that. I showed the VIN for a 2015 WR250F, he looked at it and said that I could plate it. I have no desire to do so because I only ride dirt now.

  • @riderride8809
    @riderride8809 5 років тому +9

    Now that was a review. From showroom to hell trail. Thx

  • @dr.barabas2212
    @dr.barabas2212 5 років тому

    Nice Review! I was in R&D to buy a DRZ400, when they told me about the CRF450L. They said they had one on the loading dock waiting for pick-up I could look at. It was your bike! Later on that day I saw your video while researching the CRF450L and I recognized where you were riding and the pic of your bike for pick-up. Weird coincidence. After seeing yours I had to have one. I just bought mine last week (took some time to save) and love it. Thanks for the great reviews and it’s nice to see our local area. R&D told me I was CRF450L purchase #22.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  5 років тому

      I ran into 3 of them in the woods last Sunday. All from R&D! So glad to hear you love it. They're great machines.

  • @2004tjrubicon
    @2004tjrubicon Рік тому

    I’m a previous 2008 WR250R owner and I’ve just bought a 2023 CRF450RL, this video gave me some more confidence to ride my new bigger bike. I’m hoping Honda has done something to fix the off/on throttle and the stalling, I think the flame outs might be a thing of the past.
    Thanks for your informative video.

    • @rogerlarson8040
      @rogerlarson8040 Рік тому

      So have you had any Flame outs? What are your thoughts of this bike?

  • @f18a
    @f18a 6 років тому +7

    Thanks for the balanced review, a relatively rare thing! Honda seems to be targeting KTM with this bike. Hence the low weight, high price, and racy maintenance regimen. The behavior of the engine at low throttle angles is surprising (for Honda) and unfortunate. But I'm 99% sure that the tuners will sort this (probably for $400 or so). BTW, your comparisons with the WR250R were particularly helpful in framing where this bike stands. Cheers.

  • @77roadracer
    @77roadracer 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video, I am a sales manager for a Honda dealership in Northern Ireland and I can’t wait for ours to arrive, I have a demo space waiting!!

  • @got_to_roll
    @got_to_roll 4 роки тому +4

    Rewatching this video I realize it is absolutely the best first hand, owner experience motorcycle review I've watched. Very informative, exceptionally well done. Thank you for posting!

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  4 роки тому

      thx man! Really appreciate the feedback

  • @Ben24636
    @Ben24636 3 роки тому +1

    Lol the reason the drz sucked is because its a Suzuki and you started on honda lol humans like progress not go backwards

  • @kevindailey5778
    @kevindailey5778 Рік тому

    You did a great job navigating thru this nasty mud. I'm looking at one of these bikes as well as the Beta.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  Рік тому

      thx. I looked at the beta, but honda reliability is tough to beat

  • @paytoncooper286
    @paytoncooper286 6 років тому

    Finally a good solid review of this bike!! The after market will certainly provide a viable way to uncork this cycle.

  • @plowhand5591
    @plowhand5591 5 років тому +4

    Great review. If I didn’t already have a WR I’d most likely get the 450L but because of the jerky throttle and high price of the 450L I will keep my WR. The WR has the jerky throttle as well and that really sucks on an otherwise great ADV machine. People worry too much about the shorter maintenance interval on the 450L. Not many do RTW on these bikes. 🤓

  • @noidea1962
    @noidea1962 4 роки тому +4

    I wound up with the new CRF250F. I looked, and rode one of these, and WOW, they are sweet...but, I'm almost 60 years old, and the 'recovery period' has really gotten stretched out from when I was a younger man. When I wreck, it takes a whole lot longer to get back in the saddle...so, if I had the power of this bike, there's a real good chance I'd get in way over my head. With that said...if/when I buy another dual sport, this will be on the short list. Great vid, thanks for the honest review.

    • @2004tjrubicon
      @2004tjrubicon Рік тому

      62 here and I feel the same way, but I’m going to give my 2023 CRF450RL a try 😅

  • @ryancohick1313
    @ryancohick1313 5 років тому

    Pick my up on release day for $8.999 fresh out of the crate 0 miles rode 129 miles befor going home that day and fell in love with this unit

  • @crjmoto
    @crjmoto 6 років тому +9

    Thanks for reminding me how much I love my WRR! Ha ha. Great review. I'm trying to keep an open mind...

    • @crjmoto
      @crjmoto 6 років тому

      Oh and that's a beautiful area! I rode pedal bikes around there for a weekend there a few years back. MTB and I think it was a Rails to Trails path.

  • @sandyperalta3734
    @sandyperalta3734 6 років тому +8

    Great video sir thanks. I think it's all about confidence i believe in the reliability end value holding.a like if you're a honda fans.

  • @benjaminpowell9758
    @benjaminpowell9758 5 років тому +2

    I just can’t do it...the price does not match the performance.
    I’m with you. I hated my DRZ. No power. Battery always drained. I do love the thumpers. Not sure what my next one will be. Rc51 will have to do for now.

  • @Evil_Morty2000
    @Evil_Morty2000 6 років тому +43

    oil changes at 600 miles,valve adjustment 1800 miles,price close to 12k,screw that,I'll keep my wr250r.But if i was going to spend 12 grand on a high maintenance queen,it wouldn't be crf450l.

    • @sciencemilitia1853
      @sciencemilitia1853 6 років тому +8

      This is jealousy ^^

    • @Evil_Morty2000
      @Evil_Morty2000 6 років тому +9

      lol,i have 5 bikes,2014 wr250r,2011 r1200gs,2015 150sx,2014 fe350,2009 road glide.All bought cash,slightly used from a private party,NEVER from a dealer,never new(wr for instance i bought with 450 miles,road glide with 2000,ktm with 20 hrs,fe350 and bmw i actually got in a trade).SO no,not jealosy hahaha:)And btw,guess which bikes gets ridden the most...wr250r:) bmw,ktm and fe350 are all for sale

    • @sciencemilitia1853
      @sciencemilitia1853 6 років тому +6

      @@Evil_Morty2000 So you're a WR250R fanboy, and this CRF450L threatens your world view.

    • @Evil_Morty2000
      @Evil_Morty2000 6 років тому +4

      lol,no,I might buy one myself when used market gets saturated with them,but I wouldn't buy one brand new,for the cost there are much better options out there(read:KTM,Husky,Beta)

    • @sciencemilitia1853
      @sciencemilitia1853 6 років тому +4

      @@Evil_Morty2000 You think its a better option, Until the ktm eats a valve!

  • @Mikebasshead
    @Mikebasshead 6 років тому +2

    Congratulations on the bike hope you enjoy it stay safe!

  • @MrPuRpLeHaZ3
    @MrPuRpLeHaZ3 6 років тому +4

    Coming from a crf250L I really love this bike. I'm a very inexperienced rider with about 2300 miles under my belt. 40% off road. 60% on road. I do want to reduce the torque maybe a little larger rear sprocket. I have few problems with it though. Downshift revmatching it sometimes stalls out forcing me to hold the start button maybe causing a crash one day. And the smallest problem be stalling a few seconds after I start it for the first time of the day.other than that I really do enjoy this bike. I have about 250 miles on my crf450L

    • @jkulysses
      @jkulysses 6 років тому +5

      Going up in size on the rear sprocket is going to shift your power even more towards the bottom end. If you are wanting to lessen the low end and get a little more top end you'll want to go smaller on back or larger on front.

  • @Yortwash
    @Yortwash 6 років тому +1

    Best review video I've seen yet👍

  • @binstunting1
    @binstunting1 6 років тому

    Super stoked for you buddy ... enjoy your new ride .. I’m def getting mine early January .. takes awhile to ship out all the way in Trinidad lol

  • @la-downoah5199
    @la-downoah5199 6 років тому +4

    I really appreciate the video I think you do a good job about comparing but something I wanted to bring to your mind that you never brought up was the possibility of the bike needing it’s break in period for everything to kind of work it’s way to perfection. I know my first bike was a Honda and the throttle felt the same so maybe after some break in that will smooth out. Regardless I’m still very interested in bike! Thanks for the video great review and content

  • @MRUNDISPUTEDCHAMPION
    @MRUNDISPUTEDCHAMPION 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for the video! This bike has received and is still receiving a load of negativity thrown it’s way. I love the look of this 450l and I was thinking of getting one but all the bad press scared me off. I ended up buying a used wr250x in mint shape and low mileage for $3500. However, I’m still really interested in the 450l primarily for the same reasons as yourself. I live in Canada (just outside Toronto) and plating an off road bike is impossible. I’d like a 450/500 that is street legal but my only options before were Ktm/husky/beta. The Honda really has me excited but all the mediocre reviews have been killing me! Lol. Hopefully this spring I’ll be able to catch a Honda ride day at one of the dealerships in my neck of the woods so I can test one out. If I’m satisfied with the power (that so many says is lacking) then I’ll reserve a 2020 model this fall as I’m thinking Honda will iron out some of the minor issues that you highlighted by then. Plus, some of the aftermarket options should be available by then including the uncorking aspect so we can get the real power out of it.
    Has your opinion of the bike changed since the making of this video?

  • @jmc6659
    @jmc6659 5 років тому +3

    No mention of the XR650L
    I’ve had my 650 for 22years and it’s still going with 30000 miles rode stuff like you have in the video all the time never a issue. I’ve been all up and down the eastern USA all types of terrain. Loved every minute of it. If I had it to do again I would still buy the Xr again. And it’s half the price.

    • @kennyt957
      @kennyt957 4 роки тому

      I've owned a few XR650L. They were a little "poppy;" felt like a one banger. I liked them though. I'm looking at this 450L pretty hard. This guys review is helpful.

  • @XjDrZ
    @XjDrZ 6 років тому +36

    Just glad that one of the Japanese bike companies finally brought out a modern good looking 450 streetable bike! I dont really agree with the price point, and the maintenance intervals. Those are the 2 main things that pushed me to KTM. But good review and awesome bike! Need more competition in order to keep this segment alive!

    • @AdvBrewery
      @AdvBrewery 5 років тому +21

      How can you say you disagree with price and maintenance. THEN claim you went with KTM. Lol.

    • @chrisblanchard4938
      @chrisblanchard4938 5 років тому +3

      @@AdvBrewery Good point. Ktm is a lot more expensive and require more maintenance intervals than honda.

    • @yessure5291
      @yessure5291 5 років тому +2

      @@chrisblanchard4938 Yep...........

    • @william6815
      @william6815 4 роки тому

      Are you dumb you have to service your KTM more than the Honda and it’s costs more and the Honda will last longer on the road ?

    • @malageb1
      @malageb1 4 роки тому +1

      @@AdvBrewery Because in this category, KTM is a better bike.

  • @klrfever
    @klrfever 5 років тому +3

    I am so happy to have found your outstanding video, as I tomorrow will buy the bike and after your comparision, it will be the Wr 250 BTW I love my DRZ!

  • @justincoull2166
    @justincoull2166 6 років тому +6

    My xr400 took about three hundred kms to start feeling smoother from new. All needs to bed in

  • @jasonnagano5393
    @jasonnagano5393 4 роки тому +3

    I'm still waiting for Yamaha to come out with a street legal 450. I owned the wr250r and the rear suspension was like a pogo stick fully adjusted... I wouldn't mind a husky fe450 but idk how reliable they are.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  4 роки тому +1

      This was me for years. I would think the market is big enough to do it, but the smart people at Yamaha must think otherwise.

  • @quidestnunc9238
    @quidestnunc9238 4 роки тому

    And kudos to you for Not running intrusive pseudo-music soundtrack under your speaking. An exceptional video Audio. I have been considering this bike to replace both my '16 Ducati Hyperstrada and my '18 CRF250L Rally. Then I realized the CRF450L does not have ABS and has Short maintenance intervals as well as small tank and hard seat. Oh, well, Honda's bullet-proof XR650L could be The Sheet, especially with lighter exhaust and wheels. There are a bunch out there and I can modify the say to make it rideable.

  • @0Oo..oO0
    @0Oo..oO0 5 років тому +2

    I had the WR and it was amazingly stable for me at highway speeds. Might have been your added bags, suspension settings, etc? Nice Honda, though, except the maintenance schedule. That is seriously a step backwards.

  • @kiwiridernz69
    @kiwiridernz69 6 років тому +4

    Cable clutches are fine, less to go wrong

  • @joycejeff38
    @joycejeff38 6 років тому

    Thank you for the review, good movie clip, I watched it till the end. And congrats on the new bike, she’s a real beauty

  • @sandersdylan66
    @sandersdylan66 6 років тому

    Thanks for the review! Very good video. I'm on the fence about getting one of these, but your information and video seems to help push me in the right direction

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому

      Thanks, glad I was able to help out.

  • @nostalgicbaainaar9751
    @nostalgicbaainaar9751 6 років тому +4

    Great review bud. This bike is going to be an after market accessory manufacturers wet dream. I can guarantee you that by the middle of next year we will be seeing these on the road with all the adventure bells and whistles attached. Maybe even yours!!

  • @zetterberg
    @zetterberg 6 років тому

    Nice trails in PA! You are lucky to have those legal trails. Nice to know the grass isnt always greener out west

  • @gjg1281
    @gjg1281 6 років тому +4

    Deep thoughts on a motorcycle, I feel like i'm listening in on your therapy session. Nice job though for sure.

  • @davymac9866
    @davymac9866 5 років тому +3

    450l Rally has been teased recently. Would you say it's a bike to wait for knowing it'll be almost the same as the 450l but with fairing and a larger tank?

  • @57beanyboy
    @57beanyboy 5 років тому +2

    Exactly what I am thinking! I love my WR250R but want something I can cruise the highway on occasionally. What is a good highway cruising speed in your opinion?

  • @VARider1
    @VARider1 6 років тому +2

    Sounds like the new bike has some compromises; former Honda fanboy from years ago. My new orange one is perfect so far. Dead on engine tune, suspension tuned to my weight, aftermarket 4.5 gallon tank, 62 HP to the wheel, luggage rank and weighs in at 293 lbs. fully fueled; and was priced out the door for $12,700 (with mods). Honda really needed to keep the bloat off this long awaited bike. Hope they stick with it and get it sorted over the next few years.

  • @mikewarner2285
    @mikewarner2285 6 років тому +15

    Xr400

  • @jonoj7666
    @jonoj7666 5 років тому +2

    Try a G2 Throttle Tamer to fix the on off throttle 👍 also if it has two air intakes, block off one side with a rag 👌🏻👍

  • @master97428
    @master97428 5 років тому +6

    Yamaha needs a road legal 450!

    • @william6815
      @william6815 4 роки тому

      nathan Last the do the WR450?

    • @You-Toober
      @You-Toober 4 роки тому

      I would LOVE to see Yamaha make a wr450r! Like the wr250r, only larger.

  • @airbats801
    @airbats801 6 років тому +7

    Japan need to go on a diet with their dual sports

    • @Herboutwest
      @Herboutwest 6 років тому +1

      airbats801 this bike is actually pretty light..

    • @stadce
      @stadce 5 років тому

      Maybe with the 250L, but the 450L is pretty light for a dual sport.

  • @auby3901
    @auby3901 5 років тому +1

    I know what you mean about the DRZ not feeling the best on rough single track trails like these, and I think that you're right about it just carrying the weight too high. I have a CRF250L, my brother a DRZ400S. They're around the same weight, but the CRF250L feels way lighter because the weight is down lower. Not to mention the DRZ doesn't have inverted front forks. It is still an amazing bike, but it is an old design. The 450L looks sweet too though.

  • @robinmeates9260
    @robinmeates9260 Рік тому

    I've got a 2019 L vortex ecu and Yoshimura RS4, done 10,000km love it

  • @user-fl4wn9dn2c
    @user-fl4wn9dn2c 6 років тому +2

    After watching thin I guess I would go WR250r or KTM/Husky I would like to see a review on a T7

  • @waderedsox
    @waderedsox 6 років тому +2

    Great review man really appreciate how thorough you were, now all I've gotta do is come up with 11 grand.........

  • @KingCast65
    @KingCast65 6 років тому +1

    Rode one last week here in Seattle. Yes, snatchy AF in first and second. And I'm 5'10" it's too tall unless I am in my dirt boots. But yes I liked it, a lot but it's not what I need for WA state's single track either, I prolly should just go on ahead and plate a WR 250X or KDX 200/220 and forget about longer street rides.

  • @streettriplesstoney5534
    @streettriplesstoney5534 6 років тому

    Enjoyed you're revue on your new 450. I had a 2016 Honda CRF250L, and before I knew Honda was coming out with the 450 I got a 2018 KTM500. Just like you I loved my Honda 250 but wanted more power. Only thing with the 250 I hated was the fact it was 300+ pounds. I love my KTM500 it's great off road but on the road it's not as smooth as the Honda was. But I ride off road more than I do on the road.
    Thanks for your video, makes me want to go look at one.
    Freddy

  • @gregbell5576
    @gregbell5576 6 років тому +6

    I just bought one. Are people really paying 1-2k above MSRP? Mine was $9450, $10200 out the door, played and ready for the street. Enjoyed your video.

    • @AngelGarcia_420
      @AngelGarcia_420 6 років тому

      then you got yourself a deal. cuz msrp from honda website has it listed as $10,399 plus $330 destination charge. thats not including licensing and taxes

    • @gregbell5576
      @gregbell5576 6 років тому

      I was happy with it. Just letting people know you don’t have to pay Msrp/freight. Look around, I found 2 dealers quoting me that price

    • @coisnotpog
      @coisnotpog 6 років тому

      Thats not too bad at all. I heard these would be like 12k. Under 10 sounds decent.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому

      10.2 otd is VERY good. Where I'm at. they are very scarce at dealers and MSRP is what you're paying right now. I think next spring they'll be 9-10 otd no problem.

    • @Herboutwest
      @Herboutwest 6 років тому

      Dont believe it unless your friends with the people who sold it

  • @faded_mbs593
    @faded_mbs593 6 років тому +12

    Nice review. A gallon of gas is 6lbs

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому +1

      thx! I knew someone would come through with this :)

    • @yessure5291
      @yessure5291 6 років тому

      Canadian gallon is bigger :)

    • @noyopacific
      @noyopacific 6 років тому

      Yeah but they sell gas by the liter and average price $1.30 Canadian per liter. Whatever your preferred unit of measurement is, Canadians are paying about 25% more for gas. :)

    • @mtbridingog9083
      @mtbridingog9083 6 років тому

      6.3 pounds bro 6.3 not 6

    • @mudflap8448
      @mudflap8448 6 років тому +1

      With all this technology at your fingers tips you think people would stop bullshiting so much..1u.s.gal weights 8.4 pounds good lord..

  • @kyjelly5524
    @kyjelly5524 6 років тому +9

    Good review. I love Honda’s reliability. But for the price and maintenance I think I’ll go beta lol

  • @doublex632
    @doublex632 6 років тому +7

    Is it more buzzy than the DRZ ? And how would you compare those two motors? Thanks

  • @randersson3672
    @randersson3672 6 років тому +3

    5 star review, the best so far hands down !
    Makes me wait awhile before I get one.
    Thanks for the video !

  • @paulsmith9497
    @paulsmith9497 5 років тому +1

    Now let's all hope that Yamaha and Suzuki bring us modern dual sports.

  • @rawdata7175
    @rawdata7175 6 років тому +1

    Great review.
    I ride a WR250R with Tusk racks that looks a lot like yours.

  • @getdealtwithquick
    @getdealtwithquick 3 роки тому +1

    Great review. For others coming here: the Vortex ECU fixes the twitchy throttle completely. Aftermarket tanks are available.

  • @zone47
    @zone47 Рік тому

    I'm a WRR owner too and was always interested in a 400 or 450 but I think the fuel mileage would be the down fall for me. Luckily I'm only 140# so the WR carries me pretty well. Still, If I could find a good deal on a CRF450L, I'd have to try it out. I'd also have to lower the seat a bit too. Interesting to hear your thoughts between the two bikes, thanks for the video.

  • @TheClimbeverest
    @TheClimbeverest 6 років тому +1

    Yea I just picked mine up Sat got 300 miles on it now, I just love it. Couple of small things I'll get adjusted too but for me the perfect bike for where and how I plan to use it. I would say before you comment on the bike ride it, as far as oil changes go not all that difficult to perform snowflakes!!

  • @PennsylvaniaDualSport
    @PennsylvaniaDualSport 6 років тому +1

    Nice seeing scenery you’ve known all your life in a bike review. We just did an 18 rider dual sport/adv ride in and around Nesky on Saturday. You would have fit right in.
    If your not already, I have a Facebook page called Pennsylvania Dual Sport. I’m sure people would love to know about your 450L.
    I ride a 250L that’s properly suspended and geared down for trail riding as well as a Beta 300RR for the technical stuff. My wife rides an XT250 and goes anywhere I go. She also has a “little” bike for tougher stuff.
    We’re also board members of a local AMA recognized trail riders club. Hit me up if interested. There are no dues. We have group rides all the time. We also just took over the Michaux Dual Sport 👍 so that’ll be happening next year after all.
    Nice bike btw.. so glad the that big thumpers are living on after all.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому +1

      awesome! I don't use facebook, but would love to get in on some rides, and have 2 or 3 other guys that would be interested as well

  • @stephenromano1906
    @stephenromano1906 6 років тому +2

    I like this bike however I would really prefer an updated reliable Japanese DUAL sport tooled for longer distance rides, with fuel injection, disc breaks, a 400cc or 500cc in a 300lb Max package with 4K+ oil changes & 18k+ valve check intervals for $10k+...Might as well “throw” in a very modern piece of technology called a “fuel gauge”....So essentially a more powerful WR250R I suppose.. something when I ride 600 mile weekends I wouldn’t need to perform maintenance to continue riding. The current DRZ is close minus fueling however was hoping for fuel injection...let’s face it...it’s convenient. Given I need to ride 100 miles to access trails that setup would be ideal. I was close on pulling the trigger on a WR250R however was hoping some reliable Japanese brand would come out with a more powerful option with same features and maintenance intervals....not certain if its possible...I do ride/own a large 1200 ADV bike however I would like something that is lighter for the rougher single track stuff. Hurling 585lbs through single tracks isn’t what it’s cracked up to be...

  • @BlakesReactions
    @BlakesReactions 2 роки тому +1

    Great review! Actually sold my 450L for a wr250r lol! Used to go up to jim thorpe as a kid. Which road is that trail off of?

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  2 роки тому

      off route 54 by the power plant

  • @occa4503
    @occa4503 5 років тому

    I have a CRF250L and it stalls out a lot at idle, usually when at a red light. Sometimes mine will stall when riding when I downshift into neutral and let off the throttle when coasting to a light. Has to do with the PAIR valve which is an emissions device. Could also account for your choppy throttle in 1st and 2nd and erratic idle. It has a paint mark on it so the dealer can see if you tampered with it.

  • @mjfox1190
    @mjfox1190 6 років тому

    I usually don't care for narrated videos. I'm actually not sure why I like this video. But I do. I stuck with you for a half hour, liked and subscribed. Weird ;). Thanks for the review, Man! It is a good one. I like your style.
    Do you still have your Yamaha? Is that true what people are posting, oil every 600 miles, and valve checks every 1800 on the Honda 450? Basically an HRC Rally motor by the sound of it.
    I have a few (well, loads, if I could afford them all) bikes on my radar. I am in Europe, so the KLR is a non existent/difficult option. So what is tickling my fancy are: CRF250L and modify it quite extensively. Husqvarna TE630 and modify it quite extensively. Or wait for the KTM 390 ADV and modify it perhaps a little less extensively. I know what everybody is thinking, and yes, I have considered that/those bike(s) as well, and yes I want those too). My needs are different from yours though. I do trips of 2 weeks or more a couple times year, across the continent.
    Anyways, thanks again for the good video/review.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому

      Sold the WR to my best friend, setting him up with a much more reliable bike to join me on rides with. Thanks so much for your kind feedback, and glad you stayed entertained.

  • @jerrydumpner1238
    @jerrydumpner1238 4 роки тому +1

    where else can you get a mx crossed with street riding????

  • @pdbordelon
    @pdbordelon 6 років тому +4

    The best review on this bike so far, :)

  • @linwoodchatten6623
    @linwoodchatten6623 4 роки тому

    Congrats on your new bike. Very jealous. Would love to ride one someday. Just wish they weren’t so $$$$. Which makes me wonder if I should get a 250L for half price. I have a CRF150F now that I love. I am a big guy 6’2” 260. Not a great rider either. Been riding street my whole life but not 2 wheels in the dirt. I had a 250 L back in the 90s but they were a different bike back then. I would get to 50 and it would be screaming.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  4 роки тому

      450 re-sprung would suit you. You grow into the power quickly :)

  • @Spartan375X
    @Spartan375X Рік тому

    Thanks for the insight. I have an XR250R and CRF230M and I might just replace those for the 450L or RL with a set of motard wheels so I have some more room in my garage.

  • @Sscott1985
    @Sscott1985 6 років тому

    I’ll still take a Wr250. Half the price and bulletproof. Still quick enough for what it is, reliable as fuck and valves don’t need checked/ adjusted until like 26k miles. This crf is way overpriced.

  • @tosh2012
    @tosh2012 2 роки тому

    Your wife probably has a great insurance policy on you. Hahaha!
    Check her search history, see if she typed in "widow maker bikes". .
    Yeah, I'm bitter.....

  • @johncarlson8029
    @johncarlson8029 3 роки тому

    No super expensive, super fragile Euro dirtbikes. Parts are few and far between and megabucks. And they break so easily. Good for you purchasing a REAL bike.

  • @keithmcqueen7666
    @keithmcqueen7666 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the honest review of the 450l. I had the same whiskey throttle issue when I got my ktm 300. Check out the g2 throttle tamer. Saved me from selling it.

  • @ncv4708
    @ncv4708 5 років тому +1

    Just picked up my 450L a few weeks ago. I'm part of DelVal Trail Riders and do a bunch of riding up in coal country!

  • @johncarlson8029
    @johncarlson8029 3 роки тому

    Where are you riding? Seems mostly flat and tight. You should try the Virginia mountain trails, it looks the same except no serious hills

  • @randyrowe3723
    @randyrowe3723 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the review. I'm considering the bike. I also appreciate the overall on the other bikes. I was considering a drz. Have you rode a 650r or 650l? I know the 650l is a bit dated especially the suspension. They are affordable on the used market

  • @sqd8r
    @sqd8r 5 років тому +2

    Great review, this bike is for me. Where I live (up north Canada) the trails are more open, for ATVs and 4WD. Thx. Also I'm similar weight so glad to see it can handle it.

    • @Rich2wheels
      @Rich2wheels 5 років тому +1

      sqd8r Im from Canada myself. Did you end up purchasing? Im still debating a ktm 350..... change my mind? If you can handle those trails with it ill scrap the ktm idea

  • @beomsukim3929
    @beomsukim3929 3 роки тому +1

    Bike talk please

  • @Akbar_Friendly_in_Cherno
    @Akbar_Friendly_in_Cherno 6 років тому +2

    Great review video. I've been discussing this with several people and we're curious why you chose the CR over a Euro bike such as a FE501 or an 500EXC? Or are you just more familiar with the Honda mechanics?

    • @leearnette4679
      @leearnette4679 6 років тому

      I wonder that also but I've read a lot about the service intervals on the ktm/husky bikes..issues with maintenance and auch.bur I've also heard that people kinda exaggerate those claims..?

    • @pwrstnd
      @pwrstnd 6 років тому +1

      The majority of 500/501 owners are riding well past the parts replacement intervals outlined in the owners manual. The manual recommendations are realistic if you where racing the bike full time. Guys are going 400-800 hours regularly before rebuilds. I own a lot of bikes and sold my 2015 501 this spring and am having some bad sellers remorse now. Didn't realize just how much I loved that bike til it was gone. Had around 160 hours on it with oil changed every 10 hours , ran as strong as new, and zero problems. I'll probably buy another 501, I wanted to like the new Honda but for that price no way,maybe if it was 2-3k cheaper than the KTM/Husky.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  6 років тому

      maintenance, checkout my follow-up video comparing maintenance intervals

  • @jimenagulla9081
    @jimenagulla9081 5 років тому +1

    I like the 450l one thing I don't like is how that cable loops up over the top of the sppedo, I have a deposit on a ktm 790 adv R, can't wait! Good luck with your bike...

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  5 років тому

      Funny, cuz I thought that at first too, but It's one of those things you notice the first time you ride the bike, and then you never see it.

  • @Katenrw
    @Katenrw 4 роки тому +1

    I Love this Bike , I have mine 450L 2019 for 3 weeks ^^

  • @johncarlson8029
    @johncarlson8029 3 роки тому

    Did you get a suspension set up? No you did not. You cannot give a good review without a set up.

  • @johncarlson8029
    @johncarlson8029 3 роки тому

    HONDA IS THE BEST ON THE PLANET. WHEN YOU CAN RIDE A HONDA FAST THROUGH THE WOODS YOU WILL HAVE LEARNED

  • @gift3rs
    @gift3rs 6 років тому +1

    So oil changes ever 3,000 miles and Valve checks ever 20,000 right?

    • @Venom3303
      @Venom3303 6 років тому

      Gifters no way every 600 Miles oil

  • @zadokmotorfreight2423
    @zadokmotorfreight2423 4 роки тому

    Fantastic review, thanks!

  • @ImJohnConstantine
    @ImJohnConstantine 6 років тому

    While I agree with the 'Break-In' comment 100%, after checking one out at my local Honda dlr, they mentioned that the bike comes SUPER-LEAN from Honda, due to emissions crap, so I'm certain big improvements will come with fuel mapping adjustments.

  • @johncarlson8029
    @johncarlson8029 3 роки тому

    IRC ve33 Vulcanduros are an excellent woods tire. Acceleration and braking are really good, but with the power of that bike you WILL be going through rears.

  • @primedirective00
    @primedirective00 4 роки тому

    NEPA represent \m/
    the throttle response is a direct result of euro 4/5 carb stamp. it's "on" so you don't have to open the throttle much to get power at speed (intake velocity is optimized for just barely open) for highway efficiency and it's "off" because there's no fueling trail-off that smooths out decel. A trivial improvement in efficiency for a palpable change in safety and usability. it's pretty fucking stupid that motorcycles even have to follow the same standards as cars.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  4 роки тому

      I get the idea that if we don't try and improve 'everything' we won't 'win' against climate change, but wholeheartedly agreed. In this case, it does reduce safety and usability. I've gotten use to it, but I still wish it was smoother.

  • @johncarlson8029
    @johncarlson8029 3 роки тому

    Aftermarket e.c.u. 700 bucks. They say it's worth it

  • @sdqsdq6274
    @sdqsdq6274 5 років тому +1

    a plated dirt bike ,not like there is a lot of choice

  • @alabamatoy
    @alabamatoy 5 років тому

    RE: the mirrors - check out highwaydirtbikes.com/ , they have some really cool fold-away mirrors. I have installed them on two of my bikes...no more wankered mirrors.

    • @netmagi
      @netmagi  5 років тому

      Thanks for your reply. Running these right now and very happy with em: amzn.to/2PA2Z3T

  • @jkulysses
    @jkulysses 6 років тому

    I don't have a crf450l yet but I have had countless Honda's & a couple with the 450r engine and have found bone stock they have weird issues at times. Hard to start, don't run quit right all the time etc but as soon as I uncork them with an exhaust, intake & rejet or fuel programmer all those issues go away. I'm sure to get this bike to pass emissions it's extremely corked up.