Water Filter Bottles: Grayl vs. Sawyer The One I Love To Use
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I know you know this but in case others watching don’t, try and avoid collecting from stagnant water sources and instead find moving water to collect from. Also, if you point the bottle down stream while filling, you can avoid a bunch of stuff from getting in your container to begin with.
Good info
"Bunch of stuff" as in debris (seeable to human eye -floaties/sinkies) or "bunch of stuff" as in bacteria & microorganisms (invisible to the naked eye)?? Because although it may slightly cut down on actual chunks of shit getting into the bottle but it will make absolutely zero difference which way you hold the bottle either with or against current as far as bacteria and microscopic organisms go. Sorry not trying to undermine you or anything i just want to make that very clear to people who may have mistaken that comment. So again, it does NOT matter which way you hold your bottle/container when filling up in (flowing) unknown water source in regards to bacteria getting inside or not, just treat it as tho there is indeed bacteria inside cuz most likely there is (assuming you suspect contaminated water source obviously). That is a common myth or misconception that people have that could potentially leave you up shit creek... Litterally.
@@kodyschmautz7799 sorry about using such an ambiguous phrase. By “bunch of stuff” I meant particles of debris like bits of leaves and sediment that would be unpleasant to drink. Granted, you can just wrap a tshirt or handkerchief over the opening to keep some of the larger particulates from getting in your bottle, bit pointing it downstream can lessen the amount of floaties that get in your bottle.
You can also pre-filter all that visible debris by putting a bandana over the opening of any water collection container. This will help your filters last longer no matter what you use.
@@kodyschmautz7799@kodyschmautz7799 makes zero difference.. just like your comment
Your entire point about pointing out bacteria is completely negated by the fact that everybody who buys these types of filters.. is to filter bacteria not gravel.
You should spend more time using your brain and less time trying to virtue signal/be right.
I purchased the Geo Press and have been extremely happy with it. I carry the Grayl and a 32oz stainless water bottle so that I have the option of boiling water too. Yes I paid 80 bucks for the Grayl, but I think it's worth every penny.
And every drops of water.
Like I said - with a 32 oz stainless water bottle as a companion "not for backpacking"
Bought Grayl's for the family, knowing it's the best there is to protect them and comfortable doing that !!
I was stuck between the befree and the Grayl and was leaning to the befree for ease of use and storage. Yet the Grayl will filer out viruses. To me thats the whole reason you want a filter is to keep from taking chances and staying healthy in the bush.
I have had mine for little over a year. Used it on the trail to fill my bottle and four of my friends bottles.
I hiked 900 miles of Appalachian trail with Sawyer. It worked great. I would just screw it into a water bottle. Ultra light weight. I would love to buy a Grayl, just can't get around the price.
Sawyer is badass. Upgrading to this so my water bladder doesn’t get all nasty 🤢 or so I don’t have to spend too much time pumping I use the sawyer bag thingy. Sawyer is so small that I plan to take both. 😎
*waits by mailbox 📬 * 😁
You can't put a price on time. I'm gonna get one and use it year round to filter nasty arterie blocking microplastics.
This isn't just a filter system. It is a purification system. As well as all the "bugs" that you mention, it also removes pesticides and other chemicals, heavy metals and the new bane on our water sources, microplastics. I don't think there is another product on the market that can make the same claims, so it is unique. It is more like a municipal water purification center than a Sawyer filter.
Yes, that is why I think I am going to get a Grayl is because of the purification, the filters will not last anywhere as long as Sawyers but the Grayl would be my go to for really sketchy water and I have been in a few places where the water is pretty sketchy. Also I hate the taste of water that has had aquatabs dissolved in it and if a filter with carbon in it can handle the purification as well I will take that.
@@billcarpenter5615 One thing to be aware of is that the filters expire for some reason. I believe the packaging says that once the filter is used to clean up some water it will only last 3 or 6 months from that date. It could be a shorter period but I know it isn't longer than 6 months. That means that you probably shouldn't "practice" with it when you first get it as that will start the clock running. I bought a spare for the Grayl that I keep just for emergencies. I haven't had an emergency yet so I don't know if it works. The filters cartridges are pretty expensive. I think I had to give about 5 dozen eggs for mine. ;-)
@@billcarpenter5615 One other thing I should mention, Bill. You will see products that are marketed as cook pots/cups specifically designed to nest the Grayl. I wouldn't buy or use those because one of the big selling points of the Grayl is how effectively it keeps the bad water separated from the filtered water. The bad water will be present on the outside of the Grayl because that's what you use to dip the dirty water out of the muck. Now if you slide the whole deal into what is basically just a tall metal cup, you've just put the bugs on the OUTSIDE of the Grayl onto the INSIDE of the cup. If a buddy pours half his oatmeal into your cup or you decide to mix up a electrolyte drink, you will have the bugs in your food or drink and then in your body, unless you remember to boil the cup or put it in a fire for a few minutes. I personally think it is a dumb product to sell, but it's out there marketed by folks who should know better.
I have been rocking the Grayl since Oct and love it. I have used it in 3 different countries, and knowing that I always have good drinking water is such a piece of mind. It also saves a lot of money from having to buy bottled water! Grayl also has a blue filter that is just for tap water. I have seen a couple other channels who switch between the two depending on what they are doing. The blue ones are half the price, so that definitely plays a factor.
Rock it?
There is also a tap water cartridge that's good for travel that makes tap water taste better and you can save the purifier cartridge for emergencies or backpacking.
Not all countries have clean safe tap water so you would still need the purifier cartridge if you’re going to a third world or developing country
Great video. It is worth mentioning the Grayl is made in China and the Sawyer is made in the USA. I bought a geopress thinking it was made in Seattle. When I found it was made in China I sold it without a single use
The body may be made in China the filters are made here in America. I agree I wouldn’t trust it if the filters were made overseas.
gideonstactical it is assembled in China
Fuck, man. Trying to avoid products that China has a hand in, is like trying to shop for food that doesn't contain soy.
you make a good case for having both! i have a sawyer inline filter rigged up in my kayak for endless water supply on the water (fresh water only!). I'd keep that arrangement. i don't mind sharing straws, but, I get that not everyone is as relaxed with germs as me. the grayl looks awesome as the filter for the team, and refill everyone's personal containers. Love the concept. But, the whole speed advantage mentioned goes out the window. Since I want 2-3 ways to do everything anyway, I'd have no problem carrying one system and saddling up my kids (or friends) with the other. Not only for options, but also having two systems running cuts the water-stop time down. Obviously, the more systems in play, the quicker your group can be about it. i've got the bottle and the inline systems. looking forward to snagging a grayl, too. Another advantage of using both....don't go through your grayl filters quite so fast. so, as the Hollywood starlet said, when confronted with two temptations...do both.
If you have limited upper body strength/neck problems or related issues you might want to try using a friend’s grayl before buying. Most reviewers I’ve watched are fit young men, and some have even edited their videos to make the pressing time appear shorter. Thanks Aaron for not doing that.
What y’all don’t realize is that chemicals are sprayed along the bayous and ditches and water flow down stream. A also farms which have other chemicals that e d up in the water.
Bingo
Mmm 🤤😋 chemicals. 😂
As someone who's had beaver fever before trust me when I say if your filter doesn't filter out EVERYTHING you don't want to risk it. I got the geopress and if I pre-filter with a cloth to extend the filter longevity and keep it from getting clogged I can get enough water for 4 people all day in a matter of minutes
when it gets clogged, can you unclog it? or do you HAVE to buy a replacement
Mine just arrived. I purchased the 24oz and though I haven't used it yet, what a sense of security to have this in my possession! Many thanks for recommending as I also have the Sawyer but this is EXACTLY what I wanted to enable my wife and me to have a secured way of accessing clean water in any situation.
Thanks man , bought the Grayl Geopress & we love it ! Awesome piece of kit
They have a new Titanium one which makes it more versatile to boil with if needed, maybe to melt ice
Totally, checkout my review on that model!
I've used a Katadyn pocket (type) filter since the early 1980s. They are sinfully expensive now. There weren't many options back in the day. It filters down to 0.2 micron. ... On a dogsled trapline in Alaska in extreme cold, your options were to melt snow for water (incredibly laborious and fuel intensive) and boil to purify water. I'd get water by chopping a hole in a frozen lake with an axe and fill bottles there with the Katadyn. An unanticipated problem I encountered was the Katadyn uses a replaceable ceramic filter. It stays wet/damp after use. Riding in the dog sled basket is an incredibly bumpy ride for any cargo. At the end of one of the trips, the ceramic filter was cracked. I surmise the water within the semiporous ceramic had expanded when frozen, and with all the bumps and collisions with spruce trees, cracked the filter. I'd been drinking questionable water with little visible shrimp-like animals in it. ... What most water filter reviews leave out is cold Wx performance of the filters well below freezing. Winter camping, snowmobiling, Nordic skiing, snow shoeing, mountain biking (check out the Iditabike), skijouring, etc. have gotten much more popular. ... What say you about water filter cold Wx performance, Aaron? ... ... ... EDIT: Many, if not most of Alaska's rivers are glacially fed. The weight of the rivers of ice (which is what glaciers actually are), grinds the underlying rock into a powder called glacial silt. At the end of the glacier there is melted water run off full of silt that feeds the rivers. Far, far downstream, there is so much silt in turbulent suspension, that you can't even see down an inch into the water. The amount of silt in 32 oz of water totally overwhelms most water filters. Pre-filtering is necessary. Some folks use drip coffee filters and a cone for starters. There are also, inline paper filters that can be integrated into the suction hose, downstream from the filter on pump type water filters. ... Staying hydrated in Alaska, no matter the season requires very careful planning.
I use the Sawyer on normal hikes but the Grayl if I am hiking near farmland where they might have sprayed with chemicals. I like in an area with a lot of peaty water and it makes the Grayl filter really slow and hard to press down, takes a minute of hard pressure per filling.
Definitely gonna get a Geopress from Grayl. As someone that likes to camp and explore as well as wanting to get more into backcountry hunting, I feel the Grayl is an invaluable piece of gear honestly
I have sawyer mini and grayl. Sawyer mini will last forever. Grayl will have to be replaced over time. I believe it’s 1000 gallons or something and the sawyer is basically unlimited. Grayl is very compact. Easy. Don’t need extra storage for it, water bottle. Is. Very easy to refill and filter without contaminating the clean side. Also works great for travel like Mexico where your unsure what the water quality is. I drank tap water filtered through mine and never got sick or had any issues. Others weren’t filtering and were having stomach problems. Could be unrelated. I like the insurance. I also take on lake trios and kayaking to filter that water shiiidk the need arise. Just works. I highly recommend it.
I have used the regular Geopress for several years on weekly outings. It is satisfactory but comes with real limitations. My problem is they market it as a miracle and most people sing praise. But ummm... no backwash, low capacity, frequent filter change at $30, fails quickly with substandard water and NO BACKWASH. It leaks. I have never had a filter last more than 15 gallons on clear rivers lakes. The outer case will warp in a hot car. The gasket leaks on push. Push time grows quickly. And buy more filters. Honest review after 3 years of challenging use. I'm outdoor professional and not convinced. A pump filter that backwash is really best for serious treking. The Grayl is used more by travelers drinking bad tap water. Be warned. Don't trek without at least 2-4 filter cartridges.
I used grayl and honestly the leakage bothers me badly.. what else are you using now? I'm looking for another purifying bottle with at least the same performance as grayl, but not to melt when I'm drinking on the sides, this bothers me badly
@arolopez4654 a sipping bottle with a purifier straw inside is a great leak proof setup.
Have you tried the Sport Berkey water bottle? It’s cheaper in price and berkey is also suppose to filter out viruses. Their sport bottle uses the same filter as their larger systems and is classified as a purifier not filter... from what I’ve read.
I didn’t know about this product. Thank you for mentioning it🙂 it is made in the USA while the Grayl is manufactured in China. I’m going to get one😀 have you used one?
spider Outdoors just bought them this year for my family to use on vacations and on hikes. After flushing them through a couple times in the beginning, they can still be pretty hard to suck through the straw (at least I find) but my kids all love them and find it pretty easy. Water still taste great and fresh.
@@momck8168 Most people I see with the Berkey Sport are squeezing the bottle rather than sucking or maybe a combination of both. It remains the only water filter bottle that you can drink from without turning it upside down and has the straw protected from contaminated water during fill up!
Fantastic perspective! Thanks for sharing!
Awesome video. Thank you for doing a non-knife topic. I love your common sense approach to these videos.
Fillter shelf life: unopened = 10 yrs.
After 1st use. = 3 yrs.
Sooner if used a lot. Read care instructions for peak longevity.
Great vid. I watch all your stuff. Very informative. 🏕
The Grayl looks good. Thanks for showing. Take care.
I most commonly use my Sawyer while canoeing. Take off the top, fill it in the lake, top back on and good to go. The Grayl doesn’t seem as convenient from the looks of it.
If you’re traveling to third world or developing countries then the sawyer is practically useless...
Thanks for the detailed video! This will be great for a get home bag in the vehicle plus hiking. I think function and safety outweighs the extra cost to me.
the function on this product is the problem. it will fail insanely soon and end up costing you far far more than bottled water delivered by a celebrity. This was born as a bad idea in a garage. and will sood fill the dumps. its a one use product - in other countries
Im happy we have relatively clean watersources here in Norway. I dont think we have much issues with viruses, so the Grayl seems like overkill. I got a Katadyn Pocket, and the only things i dont like about it is the weight and size. But this is not a big issue (for me) when bikepacking. For hiking trips im gonna go with either a Sawyer or Befree, but i will use the Pocket for trips where size and weight is not an issue.
I use the Katadyn BeFree, 3L bladder for bikepacking. Neat trick: tie about two feet of cord to the bladder, after you fill the bladder hang the system from your bike handlebar and fill directly into your bike bottles. I did that on the GDMBR and it worked great. Happy trails!
You cover all the bases on the products you review that's why I watch your channel.Thanks Aaron.
for me i choose Sawyer squeeze for multiday hikes and Grayl for day hikes.
Timely video! I was just looking at water filtration options.
I like this idea, but what about the residual water on the outside of the bottle from when you dip it in the lake, river, etc? Do you have to clean and dry off the outside before you drink from it?
@@benjiman_OBE what do you think about grayl UL, people say it's too close that it's easy to be cross contaminated
I mostly camp off my motorcycle or truck so can typically bring enough water for my adventures, so I use a sawyer for backup and like that it packs smaller and is cheaper, but if I was counting on sourcing water from the environment I would step up to the Grayl for the convenience of an all-in-one bottle and better filtration performance.
So glad that you’ve done a review on one of these. Great for day hikes here in the UK. Going to pick one up and leave it in my Van
Very excited for this video! Got the ultralight through your amazon link Aaron. Your recent videos have been really fun and informative as always. God Bless you and your family! 🙏🏻💜
They are all great for sure
But the grayl is another level if your in a town or city SHTF situation 👌
Well not in all parts of Europe, here in Sweden for example you don't need a filter. The water in springs and sutch are fresh and you can drink it as it is on your hike.
(if you know the basics of course when it comes to water).
I've backpacked and hiked my hole life here without filter, no prob. But of course Its importaint in some countrys.
Or use the Sawyer in the "squeeze" method, which they also advertise it to do, to put clean water into a regular water container. The sawyer bags aren't great, but good alternative bags are less than $20.
Thank you for your informative review. Clearly, you are much more knowledgeable than I am. However, for my purpose, the small sawyers win in winter. Once the filter is wet, if it freezes, it's no longer effective. Stuff the small sawyer inside your shirt next to your skin to keep it from freezing. It looks like the Grayl is too large for that.
Grayl claims in their website that their filter can freeze 3 times over. Which is not a lot if you're going winter camping in the north
You probably just have to remove the filter cartridge lot smaller than the whole thing
Thank you so much! I am new to hiking, but I'm prepping up for Pikes Peak for my birthday. I just hiked to Barr Camp yesterday. I knew they did not have fresh water there, so I carried a good amount, but I do not want to be caught without, so here I am! I had already watched your video for the Mystery Ranch pack, which I did use with success on the Barr Camp hike. Thank you for all the great reviews and tips; you are so helpful! :)
I love your videos,but I do find it funny that you think you there aren't viruses in North American water sources unless theres a catastrophe.
Very true. Anywhere there's people can have viruses. Like popular camp spots.
I've been backpacking around Thailand with a Grayl and I'm definitely glad I brought it for the filtration capabilities but I've had it leak on me. Not sure if others have had the same experience.
The mining that once took place in my area left many of the large lakes and rivers with high heavy levels of heavy metals. Has me looking at one of these pretty hard
8:35 came in to this video here and was wondering why I needed to change oil on a water bottle 😂
Hey, thank you a lot for this very informative video, really appreciate it.
I am soon going to SE Asia -- not the first time, so I know how confused my stomach normally gets :), and I've decided to opt out of local plastic water bottles and get the Grayl instead. But I was wondering... Is buying a Grayl more environmental than buying 30 to 60 plastic bottles of water? The Grayl cost of water per liter would be about 50 euro cents, so the price for me literally be the same, at least before the first filter change. But I wonder about those filters... production and recycling of them must also take a toll, no?
It would be nice if Grayl would make the canister part out of stainless steel that way you would have an option to boil also if needed.
They did before. I have one.
they made one! titanium though. what do you think?
Two questions (hopefully I didn’t just miss the answers). 1. Do you have to replace the filter on the Sawyer? I didn’t notice you mentioning that. It would make a huge difference if you never had to replace it. 2. Do either of the products affect the taste? I bet that mountain stream water tastes wonderful, but if the water source wasn’t as nice, does it help with bad tasting water? Thanks.
I think the sawyer is good for 100 000 liters but dont quote me on that sry
Edit : @3:00 aron sais it can take 100 000 gallons
Yes you do not have to replace the filter on the Sawyer till you pass that 100,000 mark. Taste is about the same through both of them from what I’ve experienced. Hope that helps.
On the saw Sawyer, you can clean the filter. You can fit on most bottle water you buy at store. To clean hook filter backwards (basically going in reverse). I’d do at end of few days hiking or if in hotel if doing a thru hike. Also depending on how often you use, you may never need to replace/buy another filter.
I do like the fact of filtering viruses and hope to get a Grayl soon.
I would be very careful about cross contamination with the external cup. Several shots of you putting you lips right up to it. Considering you collected water by dipping the whole thing underwater, you might want to be careful with that. Also, before you pour it into you friend’s bottle, I’d wipe down the outside so those drips don’t run down and end up in her container. Don’t know about a “high probability” of having viruses in third world water supplies. Probably higher than here, for sure. But much more likely to be dealing with bacteria there. Viruses don’t know what country they are in, so the same thing that destroys virus here will do it there.
Thanks for the helpful replies!
You should check out the katadyn be free water filter. Very similar to the sawyers but a lot better and with a faster flow rate. Added bonus you can drink from it as well.
junk.
Katadyn is a ‘filter’ not a purifier. Does not filter out viruses, unlike the Grayl.
Katadyne has been disappointing for me in Australia. Our water clogs it up and makes it useless in no time.
I have bad shoulders. This just looks difficult to do. I just use katadyn with the steripen.
Sawyer has virus filtration models available too(0.01 and the 0.10 you compared the Grayl to). So comparison between that and the grayl would be a much better "test". For mission trips and overseas travel the virus filtration from Sawyer has been available for years and is proven.
never heard of it: a sawyer that filters viruses would be the final definitive choice, the real grail. can you kindly specify the product name?
@@veni1995 Sawyer site has the info and can order it from there. Also Amazon sometimes and I got mine at REI some years back. It's primarily used for those trekking in Africa, South America etc where water borne viruses are common. It's also twice the cost or more because of the extra filtration capabilities.
I love this! I can't wait to receive mine. I read if you use this and then it freezes it can compromise the filter, makes sense. I'll have to watch that being in Montana. Awesome video thanks for the info
I love the review. I love also how 5:10 for Americans a third world is "anywhere outside of North-America." Haha, brilliant. 😆
It's a great idea and design but the price I think is a bit high. Especially the $25 replacement cartridges. In time the price should come down and it will be more accessible to more people.
Brita and Pur home water filtration with pitcher comes to nearly the same pricepoint. And those dont filter out nearly all the crap this thing does.
I recently purchased my GRAYL WATER FILTRATION SYSTEMS. I do have the SAWYER MINI, but 2 is 1, 1 is none.
I use both the Sawyer Mini and the Grayl Geopress. The Grayl I use as a water bottle replacement, and the Sawyer (previously my main filter) as a backup. Both are very good. If I am going to a place with known water hazards that the Sawyer Mini does not filter, I also have a Sawyer Select S3 that I use as a backup to the Grayl instead of the Mini.
I haver been a fan of the kytadyn be free. Works really great. Good water flow and very compact.
I just wish my BeFree stood up on its own…
The most biggest questionmark using Grayl is hight contamination risk because of wet container. But there is one general issue that you or all other youtubes don’t warn - because of where you all live I guess. The blue-green algae - any of system can’t filter out those toxins.
Aaron, Because you got that kind of CASH! LOL We have to face it that Grayl sure filters water quick. I have two Sawyer mini's I too wish they would re design their filter to eliminate viruses, it makes for better business.
Thank you for this video!
I didn't even know the Grayl existed.
Everywhere I looked the recommendations were for, Sawyer, MSR HyperFlow, and Katadyn. None of these are as good IMO as the Grayl.
I have the larger Grayl geopress $89 free shipping from the actual Grayl website.
I get the greater purification over filtration. But screw the Sawyer on the top of a Smart water bottle and it takes less than a minute to fill the bottle drink from the filter and to share you can squeeze the water through the filter. So if you need the purification get the Grayl or a Berkey, but otherwise Get the Sawyer.
I definitely like this system and especially that it seems to get more harmful stuff out of the water than the others out there, i think that definitely makes it well worth the few extra bucks it cost ..thanks for the information great video..🤙🏻👍🏻
I don't own a grail but my buddy accidentally drew water from a location 6 feet from a deer head that was in the water stuck on a tree branch. After he didn't get sick I've be I'm looking into it lol
Grayl molds a loop onto the collection cup so it can be thrown or lowered down a bank with cord then they'll have the ultimate. Walking to edge of water source in winter or injured and having to try and reach down a steep bank to reach water needs to be addressed. I have one rigged but for the price it shouldn't have to be rigged.
Thanks Aaron. Very good review as always. Liked very much your Ferrari metaphor. It was very accurate and illustrative. Have you tried the Liberty Water filter by lifesaver? Best wishes to all your beautiful family.
I use the bigger Gryl and so far I've been using it almost daily since March. It has no sign of slowing down. I definitely filtered more way more than what it is advertised for. But this is for fairly clean water in Netherlands.
I am planning on buying some bandanas and sawing them into O shapes, for around the filter. To filter out big particles.
Or pre filter with a sawyer squeeze which has practically infinite personal usage since you can back flush it.
Good video, i think the gryal (virus removeal one) is great especially for traveling to 3rd world countries. You know the Sawyer will go on top of a bottle right, so you dont have to camp at a water source to filter the water as stated. I dont like the price or size of the grayl 16oz aint much for over 100 bucks
Plus the filter has to be replaced every 1000 gallons. At about 40 dollars a pop. In an apocalypse scenario where are you going to get a replacement filter if your filter stops working?
Im so glad i live in a country where you can safely drink water from almost any water source ..
My full-sized MSR filter clogs pretty easily with sediment from mountain lakes (west of Denver). My filter allows you to field clean it with a scrubbing pad. I would imagine tiny filters like these would clog easier, leaving you dry.
There's something that creeps me out about leaving all the impurities at the bottom of the container I'm drinking from. Any chance of cross contamination when changing altitude increases or decrease the pressure inside it, or when it's getting jiggled around a bunch while climbing/scrambling?
I was thinking the same thing, I'll stick with my sawyer.
It was a concern of mine and while I don't hike at extreme altitudes, I haven't gotten sick while hiking some rugged trails here in Pennsylvania. I've dropped it, tossed it in my pack and it would go upside down. So far, so good. The seal is pretty tight. I do dry the outside off before I drink from it. Just to avoid anything that might be on the bottle or my hands. It's held up after a year of use.
I’m sticking with my sawyer. Just switched from the mini to to squeeze and very happy with it.
There is no chance of cross contamination. Even if the gaskets failed, all that would happen is the water would pour out over the outside of the "dirty" container. The only way into the clean portion is through the filter. The impurities stay inside the filter anyway, just like they do with the Sawyer until you back-flush it.
@@morganw02 Good to know! So 100% of the dirty water gets pressed into the clean side?
I just picked up the brand new Sawyer water purification water bottle.. only $19.99 at Walmart
(As opposed to the original Sawyer at $39) .. this thing is great in lightweight it will filter down to one micron
Question, are you supposed to dry off the outside of a dirty water bag before filtering? Is there not a concern that the water droplets on the outside of the dirty water container are not going through the filter and may contaminate the filtered water?
I use sawyer mini for purify water, and use aquamira frontier max for reduce taste from water
The least I can say is that your world view is remarkable ..... !
Why thank you! 👍
Hey bro hope you are well and having a great weekend so far. Just found you today and really pleased we have your videos are awesome bro. Love the outdoors and used to live in the lake district England. Really useful video bro. Thanks so much for your knowledge with us really appreciate it. Stay safe and take care my friend catch up soon, keep up the great work. 👍❤️🙏
Excellent video and info!👍👍
I'm glad you reviewed this. I've used the sawyer mini in both gravity, and bag mode and have been happy with it. The grayls advantages and disadvantages you highlighted well in this fair, informative video Thanks!
(In my get home bag i have the little hydroBlu)
The problem with the Sawyer is that you cannot dry it out and the germs continue to grow inside the filter. Unless you go through the whole entire cleaning procedure that they suggest which takes a lot of time.
great video! How do u know when its time to change the filter?
I saw the grail at REI and they wanted over $80!! Instead I chose the Sawyer brand new model water bottle with a mini inside $19 at Walmart mine is more for emergency and traveling possibly
Not bad by any means, but doesn’t compare to a Katadyn pocket 🤷🏻♂️
So you really need to keep count of the times used in order to know when you need to change the filter ?🤔
Thank you. Very good comparison. I was looking for this comparison.
during shtf , the grayl doesnt have a long lasting application. u need to keep replacing filter, what happens when filters are no longer available ? id rather boil the water then pour it in the sawyer problrm solved .
On the point of not filtering viruses. One could filter the water and then boil it for a few minutes to make sure it is sterilized, no?
Untill other manufacturers catch up with survivor filter's 0.05 Microns filtration at £25/$30 I personally will stick with Survivor. I'm actually shocked in this current age of viruses being so prevalent that they haven't upped their game.
The .05 microns won't stop the majority of viruses. I've been doing a lot of research the past few days and only a small amount of filters can purify waterborne viruses. Survivor makes a bottle that is rated to purify water of viruses, Grayl is rated for it. The Survivor straw is one of the best heavy duty filtration systems as far as a straw system goes, but it doesn't do what Grayl or even other products from Survivor will.
@UCt6UJ-6O0CpnHpH6uMj0R5Q I'm interested in your findings, what are their ratings and what do you recommend?
just learned about these, thanks for the video on this product, sold me. i'll be buying a few today.
Sometimes streams contain asrcenicum or lead naturally! The rocks will tell you!
How does the water taste? My wife is very sensitive. She didn't like the Berkeley as it made her sick. She thought she got a bad one, but the company wouldn't help. If she bought it from Amazon we would have been fine. My wife also doesn't like the taste of a bladder so looking for a good one of those as well.
Thanks for this info on Grayl, exactly what I needed. Do you possibly know how/if I could connect a Sawyer mini filter to a gravitybag? Or to have a similar system in a "base-camp" where more amounts of water is needed. Susanne
I'm looking for a bottle to simply make my well water taste better at my house. I have several sources for clean water in my get home bag. What would you recommend for a water bottle that will filter calcium and metal taste out of my well water? Sure I could continue to buy case of water after case of water but that creates trash and feels my bags up faster and its just wasteful when I could use one bottle in the place of thousands of plastic bottles. Definitely not interested in spending all the money to put a inline filter in my plumbing.
did you have to clean the filter in anyway? like everyday or after each use like sawyer?
Used my Grayl yesterday on a day hike in the Whistler area. It's a well traveled trail so it's filter supplies me with piece of mind. One question, is there any recommended maintenance for the filter?
Website says that you have to let it dry out
Can you do a review on the Survivor Filter Pro on amazon?
Do you know if it is possible to clean the filter by reversing the flow and flushing it out with clean water when you get home to possibly extend the life of the filter?
Good review.
Like it. Is there a way of knowing when to change the filter. Or do you have to keep track? Thanks for another great video.
You have to keep track
When the flow rate gets bad, it is time to change filters. The standard is about 15 seconds to press the filter, if it starts taking closer to 30 seconds, it's time to replace.
100,000 gal is that based on tap water or back country water ? I know water depends but still what water it based on?
It only filters 40 gallons per filter$70.00 to start. Each filter is 25$. NO FREAKING WAY would i buy that. Nope! It would cost about $10,000.00 to do what sawyer can do for $50.00
Technically they don't do the same thing. The Sawyer filters, the Grayl purifies. There is a big difference between the two. It's comparing apples to oranges...