One really impoortant thing to add: If you wear a safety toe as part of sawyer gear, know that a steel toe stops a chainsaw blade completely, whereas it dives into a comp toe faster than some woods. I've seen demos of chainsaws on comp toes, and they don't even slow down. But for impact, yes, go comp toe.
As an electrician I’ve always been a comp toe kinda person I’m also really work of my work environment and minimize or eliminate the possibility of something really heavy falling on my feet. Even still comp toe every time I’m working.
I have notice with steel toes I have to get wider to an “EE” when I usually wear and “D” width boot. I am yet to try a composite toe. Waiting to receive my OT’s to decide on a Forefront safety toe.👍🏻
I’d choose composite, friend of mine steel worker had metal fall on his foot, they had to remove all toes because the steel crushed & stayed, Dr said maybe could’ve kept some toes had the safety toe been composite, idk but my friends boots are composite toe now, just one boot tho
Your friend is a statistical anomaly. The amount of force necessary for that would pulverize the bones of the foot enough that they would probably remove the entire thing. An ASTM rated steel toe can resist 6000 pounds of force.
I would like to see a close up of cutaways of boots with steel, composite and celastic toes to get a better visual of the room and shape and edges inside the boot compared to a soft toe. Also steel toes are magnetic and someone can weld your boot to something if the leather is worn through.
I've always worn steel toed logger Vibergs every single pair I've owned in the last 20 plus years is toe rub, the leather lining around the steel toe wears through now you have a sharp steel edge rubbing. I have wide feet its not a blessing 3E and size 12. I bought a pair of Superduty's last year or so yeah the comp toe makes the boot look more bulkier. The comfort exceeds the bulkiness, it is not good for your toes to be crammed in all day long, things need to move. I'm looking at buying another pair of Superduty's I know how they fit I will go down one size I may even go to a 2E boot. You gotta take comfort any day of the week, when I get home I'm not in a hurry to get my boots off because my feet hurt. I take them off at the end of the day with no foot pain I can't say that about the handmade boots I've had in the past.
I’ve never owned a pair of boots that weren’t steel toe, got my first ones in high school and I’m 45 now. As a result I don’t mind them at all, other than being cold. That is a pain but I live in Ala. so we don’t really do cold very well. I have some OT’s on the way with a comp toe. Will be my first hand made boot to.
Wait what is Ala? I thought you were abbreviating Alaska weird but do you mean Alabama or is this a country or some city I don't know? American states are abbreviated with just two letters. I'm genuinely curious
I drove a Lift about 20 years ago, and they did not want steel toed boot as these roll or crush and get mangle or cut the toes and recommend reinforced or other boots. Has this changed and what is your recommendation NOW for heavy rolling equipment, just let the toes get crushed and let the surgeons relieve the pressure ?
I bought an alloy toe for work because I work in a warehouse with a lot of equipment that could cause foot injuries but because the metal detector keeps going off and apparently steel toes were against the dress code I had to switch to a composite toe
Composite is the way to go for me I have a plow fall on my toes the toe just cracked but I was able to remove the boot without cutting the boot off I just suffer a small fractured and bruising I seen guys with steel toe loose a toe or two and having the boot cut off
Its sometimes hard to tell when composite toes have been cracked. If its fully cracked through sometimes you can feel it. Otherwise you have to judge it off the impact/impacts that it has sustained. We recommend that after any big impact over the ASTM standard that the composite toe be replaced. As stated in our warranty, your warranty does not cover "The continued use of a safety toe or metatarsal guard after the boot has sustained an impact in excess of the ASTM rating specifications". Hopefully this helps! If you have any other questions please reach out to our customer support at general@jkboots.com
Does the composite offer as much protection in an accident like "foot being backed onto by a scissor jack tire?" That happened to me recently. I had regular shoes on. Not recommended. lol
Does the safety toe width change based on the boots width? Is it possible to get a very wide safety toe? I’m very wide in the toes and am constantly getting ingrown toe nails but I don’t have a choice because OSHA sucks and I have to wear them.
ASTM recommends that any significant impact with a composite toe be trashed and replaced. The data show that you cannot guarantee the integrity of the composite toe after an impact.
I work with a lot of heavy metal. If you drop a piece on your boot, it'll cut clean down to the steel toe in the boot. Is the composite as safe as the steel toe, when it comes to 50 pounds of sharp metal hitting it? Or is steel toe still the best option?
The composite toe has the same ASTM rating as the steel toe which meets or exceeds the standard safety toe requirements for boots, so you can expect the same level of protection from either boot.
It sounds like you need to order larger steel toe inserts. Look at something like Doc Martin industrial line of work boots. Steel toe with tons of room. If your steel toe inserts are smaller, that's on you and your company.
There's the problem: the manufacturer of steel toes in the USA only makes one size to fit ALL boots. It is the most we todd ed thing. I don't know the reason behind this outside of ASTM standards.
We would recommend checking out our 300s with a composite toe, thinner leather and overall lighter duty boots to our Forefronts. Also our 300x that is the same but with a Vibram 132 unit sole instead of the 300's Cristy Wedge sole.
Celastic is a plastic impregnated fabric which becomes mold-able when activated by immersion in solvents such as Acetone and MEK (methyl ethyl ketone). Once dry from it's solvent bath, it is transformed into a light-weight, high impact material. Celastic toe is not a safety toe it is just a stiffened toe option to minimize the droopy toe appearance after break in and time. The moment an heavy object is dropped on a celastic toe it will give way.
No one wears safety toe shows because they want to. They wear them because they have to. I don't have a choice. My job requires me to wear steel toe shoes.
Again, I don't wear steel toes boots because I choose to, I wear them because I have to. I have no choice in the matter. My employer requires me to wear steel toe shoes.
@@gregphillips9670do they require you to wear steel toe, or do they require you to wear a certified safety toe? That’s two different statements. Everyone already knows it’s more comfortable to have neither if it’s not necessary. We’re here talking about if composite or steel is better.
Plenty of people wear safety toe boots because they want to, they use them to kick and protect their feet. You do have a choice, safety toe boots are required at my job but 90% of people wear sketchers slip resistant sneakers or random athletic shoes. I don't have a choice is not a sentence a man says, you always have a choice.
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One really impoortant thing to add: If you wear a safety toe as part of sawyer gear, know that a steel toe stops a chainsaw blade completely, whereas it dives into a comp toe faster than some woods. I've seen demos of chainsaws on comp toes, and they don't even slow down. But for impact, yes, go comp toe.
So dont wear como toe if work with a chainsaw
I work using a plasma cutter and parts can be heavy after cutting. Parts could maybe fall on my feet while carrying so I use composite toe
@@wisdomfox857steel toes can protect your toes from the chainsaw.
"One of the best things about having more toe room is that you have more room for your toes". The man's a genius.
As an electrician I’ve always been a comp toe kinda person I’m also really work of my work environment and minimize or eliminate the possibility of something really heavy falling on my feet. Even still comp toe every time I’m working.
I have notice with steel toes I have to get wider to an “EE” when I usually wear and “D” width boot. I am yet to try a composite toe.
Waiting to receive my OT’s to decide on a Forefront safety toe.👍🏻
I’d choose composite, friend of mine steel worker had metal fall on his foot, they had to remove all toes because the steel crushed & stayed, Dr said maybe could’ve kept some toes had the safety toe been composite, idk but my friends boots are composite toe now, just one boot tho
Your friend is a statistical anomaly. The amount of force necessary for that would pulverize the bones of the foot enough that they would probably remove the entire thing. An ASTM rated steel toe can resist 6000 pounds of force.
definetly recommend going a width or two up if you get a hard toe. the toe box in these boots it’s pretty small.
I would like to see a close up of cutaways of boots with steel, composite and celastic toes to get a better visual of the room and shape and edges inside the boot compared to a soft toe. Also steel toes are magnetic and someone can weld your boot to something if the leather is worn through.
Has someone welded your boots before??😂
@@aurtisanminer2827right like that’s infuckinsane
@@aurtisanminer2827 I have a new fear now, someone welding my boots to something when I'm not looking lol
Do either come in widths?
I like a AA width heel, but a C width toe. So I compromised on my old corks and got a B.
I've always worn steel toed logger Vibergs every single pair I've owned in the last 20 plus years is toe rub, the leather lining around the steel toe wears through now you have a sharp steel edge rubbing. I have wide feet its not a blessing 3E and size 12. I bought a pair of Superduty's last year or so yeah the comp toe makes the boot look more bulkier. The comfort exceeds the bulkiness, it is not good for your toes to be crammed in all day long, things need to move. I'm looking at buying another pair of Superduty's I know how they fit I will go down one size I may even go to a 2E boot. You gotta take comfort any day of the week, when I get home I'm not in a hurry to get my boots off because my feet hurt. I take them off at the end of the day with no foot pain I can't say that about the handmade boots I've had in the past.
I’ve never owned a pair of boots that weren’t steel toe, got my first ones in high school and I’m 45 now. As a result I don’t mind them at all, other than being cold. That is a pain but I live in Ala. so we don’t really do cold very well.
I have some OT’s on the way with a comp toe. Will be my first hand made boot to.
Wait what is Ala? I thought you were abbreviating Alaska weird but do you mean Alabama or is this a country or some city I don't know? American states are abbreviated with just two letters. I'm genuinely curious
I drove a Lift about 20 years ago, and they did not want steel toed boot as these roll or crush and get mangle or cut the toes and recommend reinforced or other boots. Has this changed and what is your recommendation NOW for heavy rolling equipment, just let the toes get crushed and let the surgeons relieve the pressure ?
So can one choose with JK? Say I want steel not comp. Can that be accommodated?
I bought an alloy toe for work because I work in a warehouse with a lot of equipment that could cause foot injuries but because the metal detector keeps going off and apparently steel toes were against the dress code I had to switch to a composite toe
Hows it doing against the pallet jack?
Does the width of the safety toe insert change based on the boot width?
Composite is the way to go for me I have a plow fall on my toes the toe just cracked but I was able to remove the boot without cutting the boot off I just suffer a small fractured and bruising I seen guys with steel toe loose a toe or two and having the boot cut off
What do you suggest to work in UPS as a pre-loader, composite or steel toe?
Comp
I would definitely go with a composite toe for that,
Can you do a video on how i know if my composite toe boots have been compromised or cracked after a year of use a few blows to the toe
Its sometimes hard to tell when composite toes have been cracked. If its fully cracked through sometimes you can feel it. Otherwise you have to judge it off the impact/impacts that it has sustained. We recommend that after any big impact over the ASTM standard that the composite toe be replaced. As stated in our warranty, your warranty does not cover "The continued use of a safety toe or metatarsal guard after the boot has sustained an impact in excess of the ASTM rating specifications". Hopefully this helps! If you have any other questions please reach out to our customer support at general@jkboots.com
Does the composite offer as much protection in an accident like "foot being backed onto by a scissor jack tire?" That happened to me recently. I had regular shoes on. Not recommended. lol
This is something I was wondering, would the como resist the weight barring or would it crumble to the weight !?
I work in concrete steel toe has always been a great option there heavier but offer better protection for your feet I was considering soft toe
Composite toe is not the same as soft toe, you might wanna get some hiking boots in that case😅
Thank you for the information, do you have a weight comparison?
Composite toe boots are roughly 30% lighter than steel toe boots
The composite toe can’t conduct heat or cold weather, especially when working with the electricity ⚡️ from electrician.
Would it be a good idea to go up a half size if you need a safety toe or should you still order the correct normal size boot?
We recommend you order the same size you normally would.
I wonder if a circular saw can chew through a steel toe
composite is my only choice unless i want to take my shoes off every (airport employee that has to go through tsa daily)
I got the composit after being fitted in store. now the toe box feels a little narrow. Will this get better?
Does the safety toe width change based on the boots width? Is it possible to get a very wide safety toe? I’m very wide in the toes and am constantly getting ingrown toe nails but I don’t have a choice because OSHA sucks and I have to wear them.
It will change based on width and length. Please call us at (509) 487 - 0154 and our customer service team can help you better 👍
If the composite toe shatters do you need to have the boot rebuilt
ASTM recommends that any significant impact with a composite toe be trashed and replaced. The data show that you cannot guarantee the integrity of the composite toe after an impact.
I work with a lot of heavy metal. If you drop a piece on your boot, it'll cut clean down to the steel toe in the boot. Is the composite as safe as the steel toe, when it comes to 50 pounds of sharp metal hitting it? Or is steel toe still the best option?
The composite toe has the same ASTM rating as the steel toe which meets or exceeds the standard safety toe requirements for boots, so you can expect the same level of protection from either boot.
It sounds like you need to order larger steel toe inserts. Look at something like Doc Martin industrial line of work boots. Steel toe with tons of room. If your steel toe inserts are smaller, that's on you and your company.
There's the problem: the manufacturer of steel toes in the USA only makes one size to fit ALL boots. It is the most we todd ed thing. I don't know the reason behind this outside of ASTM standards.
I prefer western style boots not yuppy boots
@@Billy-gh9ihwestern boots are pretty yuppie. Lol
@@aurtisanminer2827 more like your yuppie buddy where I’m from we wear them day in day out working sounds like you don’t work
@@aurtisanminer2827 then again coming from the guy who has the Caillou fishing gear on wouldn’t surprise me
Need minimalist safety boots
We would recommend checking out our 300s with a composite toe, thinner leather and overall lighter duty boots to our Forefronts. Also our 300x that is the same but with a Vibram 132 unit sole instead of the 300's Cristy Wedge sole.
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What are celastic toe
Celastic is a plastic impregnated fabric which becomes mold-able when activated by immersion in solvents such as Acetone and MEK (methyl ethyl ketone). Once dry from it's solvent bath, it is transformed into a light-weight, high impact material. Celastic toe is not a safety toe it is just a stiffened toe option to minimize the droopy toe appearance after break in and time. The moment an heavy object is dropped on a celastic toe it will give way.
On your website I do not see an option to pick steel toe. They are all composite
If I wear red wings steel toe 9.5 H wide! What would you recommend for JK?
Use the measuring guide they offer, you can print out a sheet and get your correct size.
No one wears safety toe shows because they want to. They wear them because they have to. I don't have a choice. My job requires me to wear steel toe shoes.
That's not true. After you smash your toes a few times, then get the composite toe you don't go back.
Again, I don't wear steel toes boots because I choose to, I wear them because I have to. I have no choice in the matter. My employer requires me to wear steel toe shoes.
@@gregphillips9670do they require you to wear steel toe, or do they require you to wear a certified safety toe? That’s two different statements. Everyone already knows it’s more comfortable to have neither if it’s not necessary. We’re here talking about if composite or steel is better.
@@ZSmith-yy4lvAny profession using a chainsaw requires steel toe... as do many others. Composite is inferior.
Plenty of people wear safety toe boots because they want to, they use them to kick and protect their feet. You do have a choice, safety toe boots are required at my job but 90% of people wear sketchers slip resistant sneakers or random athletic shoes. I don't have a choice is not a sentence a man says, you always have a choice.
Your videos boring dude fell asleep twice on the damn bus mission work lol
Steel toe boots can make your toes freeze in subzero temperatures.