Pinkie's travels are not suppposed to be realistic, she even lampshades how she managed to form a band that broke up is an afternoon, breaking reality for comedy is funny and Pinkie's thing and I loved it :). I thought Twilight and Pinkie were both great in this episode. The main problems were that the Yaks were completely unlikeable, until the very end and even then not much better. Maybe they need to do a Lost Treasure of Griffinstone type of episode for them next season. The other issue was that the moral and the conclusion were easy to see coming but I do not know how they could have changed that. And why Twiligh did not wear her crown in either of the episodes when they were formal princess occasions? But I do not care about how Spike is potrayed, he was fine in my opinion.
Sara Samaletdin You predicated that Pinkie Pie's travels would be for nothing and, rather than finding the authentic Yak culture, she'd simply give it up and try to welcome them "the pony way"? Because, while I thought that is what SHOULD happen, it isn't what I thought was GOING to happen, so it was still a twist.
The moral and solution was pretty obvious from the point when there was the montage of yak's complaining about things not being perfect. But Pinkie's traveled were such a distraction and so ammusing I forgot the solution for a while. So it did not ruin the episode or anything.
I feel like the show has more of a running streak of negatively portraying other species outside of ponies more than male characters. Changelings=evil, Chimera=evil, Dragons=jerks, Griffons=jerks, Yaks=jerks etc.
Worst thing about Princess Spike was that the big disaster Spike caused came from him trying to HELP Twilight and not reap the benefits of being a princess so if he was being an ass or not he still would've caused the disaster by doing the job he was supposed to do in the first place.
Dolan Duk I think it would be more acceptable for people if Spike didn't have that brief selfish streak where he started demanding favors in Twilight's name. Up to that point, he was genuinely trying his best, but he simply didn't have the experience to make wise decisions, despite his attempts.
actually.... we did see spike play the piano before, in over a barrel. he played it pretty well too, but that was in an episode where they forgot they hated spike.
***** I personally find Princess Spike to be a good episode.Plus, I like it more than both Appleoosa's Most Wanted and the Lost Treasure of Griffonstone
***** I don't mind an episode being predictable, since even some of the better ones (including Pinkie Pride, my favorite episode) are predictable. I personally found it to at least be funnier than Appleoosa's most wanted and The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone. And Spike would have started abusing his position sooner or later, regardless of Cadance's intervention. As for why Celestia and Luna only appear in the beginning, I think the reason is that none of the characters in the episode thought to talk to them about the problems.
funcoolfunfun I respect your opinion but I have to disagree with you. The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone was, in my opinion, much better than Princess Spike, Party Pooped and Appleoosa's Most Wanted combined.
Rockin' Strings Here are my biggest problems with Lost Treasure of Griffonstone, and why it, to me, is the second weakest episode of the season so far: 1. The comedy somehow felt... lackluster. The only really funny joke was when Rainbow acted like Twilight and had her mane styled to look like her. 2. Something about the tone felt... off. It wasn't mean spirited, but it all felt just... unpleasant. 3. Gilda. Despite her being reformed, she's still one of my least favorite characters, and what little new information we got of her didn't do much with how it was used. 4. The town of Griffonstone. I'll just say it: I couldn't care less about the town if I tried. As to why, go to Deviantart and look up FlyingBrickAnimation's review of the episode. Party Pooped is my fourth favorite episode of the season so far because it's one of the funnier episodes of the season, the Yak's had interesting designs (more interesting than any of the Griffons), it somehow feels a lot more upbeat, and the information we found out about Pinkie was both hilarious and it made total sense for her character.
***** Regardless of the problems Princess Spike has as a story (and I admit,despite still finding it good, it DOES have its share of problems, which is why it's still the third weakest episode of the season for me), I still enjoy it more than TLToG if only because I care about Spike more than I care about the Griffons, and it's at least more lighthearted. The "Put the hay in the apple and eat the candle" line was still funny, despite it being similar to a joke from Castle Sweet Castle. Plus, I actually laughed a little at the way the ending abruptly cuts off.
I think the best reviewers are the ones that I can disagree with, yet still understand exactly what their reasoning is one way or another. You fit this category.
Yea i know right? Celestia forbid, Spike ever develops! About Pinkie traveling to Yak Yakistan and back in (what she states) "most of the afternoon" would be unacceptable ..... if it was any pony other then Pinkie. Pinkie is.... Pinkie, i don't know, maybe she folded the space/time continuum or something. I am still paying of the medical bills caused by my temporally insanity that caused by that time i tried to understand Pinkie Pie, so i stopped questioning her. Oh and honestly Pinkie having files about every pony, was also a tiny bit creepy. Also, someone should place casedias in random places of Twilights castle, that will be hilarious.
My observation, it took last season a long time to get to the key episodes and even then fans complaied that there was too much adventure and not enough slice of life.
Princess Spike...I approached it with the same mindset as Power Ponies: it didn't need to exist, so I could just watch the opening and the end and basically fill in the middle with everything that I needed to know. I didn't enjoy it in the slightest, either, and I found your viewpoints to be a very good interpretation on what was presented. As someone studying diplomacy, Party Pooped was actually pretty good. The Yaks were...undeniably a stereotypical interpretation of what we view foreign dignitaries as and probably how they view us, but the kudos of the episode go to Pinkie. She was going above and beyond to try to ensure that everything was perfect, which was so nice to see, and her ending characterization was just a delight. Out of all the episodes written by former Johnny Test writers, this one actually feels the most put together and enjoyable. Great video, and I can't wait to see your next one.
Princess Spike, I consider to be right in the middle for Spike episodes. I consider it the third weakest episode of the season so far, but I enjoy it more than Appleoosa's Most Wanted and The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone. Party Pooped is my fourth favorite episode of the season so far.
Party Pooped is the only episode of the show I completely ignored with no intention of going back to watch it and it's all thanks to the one minute before the theme song started...
Thank you! I thought I'd be hearing these points made a lot more than I have, so props to you. The only point where I differ all that much is that Princess Spike is the one I'm 50/50 on (not so much because there was anything I particularly liked as because the bad stuff was still fairly painless to me), and Party Pooped is the one that eventually bottomed out for me. Pinkie Pie's journey was pretty good, but even without the yaks - who I agree were the worst part - there was more than a little humor I thought was lame. I do wish there'd been more focus on Pinkie Pie's character arc though. I have to admit, I don't think I fully appreciated just how far that went where she's concerned.
I have no idea why this episode would ruin Fancy Pants. He had every reason to be aggravated over the situation. Heck, anyone would be aggravated if they were in his shoes. He was reasonable and quite frankly understandable in all of his actions.
Thanks for defending my dragon Spike. 'Princess Spike' bored me because we are back to Spike's pity party that began with 'Power Ponies' and continued through the 'Equestrian Games'. I have no doubt next season we'll have another Spike as poor passed over. Party Pooped: Honestly, I thought this episode would be when Pinkie gives up party planning for a bit and Ponyville had to manage without her. I got the same impression as you, that there was second episode with Pinkie's travels, but they crammed it into one. I think the writers got sloppy because, 'its a filler episode' no one cares. Worse than a case of senioritis.
Again party pooped feels like two different episodes get smashed into one, like the season 3 finale, which leads to a super fast pacing left no time for the audiences to properly consider what just happened. Pinkie pie travel through the whole Equestria and the solution of the yak yak party has no real connection,what she learn in this episode do not require the whole travelling thing. Just imagine it get cut into two episode, one is pinkie pie travel everywhere and interact with all kinds of pony, the other was when pinkie pie not in town, the other Mane 5 struggles to prepare a party then find the part cave and learns that preparing party is not as easy as it looks. As for Spike, I start to think that Hasbro hates him and forbid the writers writes any good story about him.
This episode didn't pile on Spike's negative qualities much at all. It just suddenly wanted Spike to be at fault so they could make a tenuous-at-best connection to the events. Spike really isn't the bad guy here, that's just a charade to cover up a poorly structured story. Every major thing that goes wrong at the end- the water main, the trees falling over, even that polo game if you want to count it- occurred without Spike acting out of selfish intent. So his big, heartfelt speech at the end means absolutely nothing. The episode wants the characters, and audience, to blame Spike for things that were largely out of his control. The real thing to be blamed is the poor scheduling, which has construction going on the day of the Summit, and didn't give Twilight one night of sleep (which admittedly, might have been her own doing). If we have to put blame on a person, it's Cadence. She suddenly gives this intense, vague order to a kid, and apparently didn't take into account anything that Twilight had to do while she napped. But if Twilight really didn't have other duties between her nap and those few meetings, then all those diplomats are jackasses for thinking they can walk into the Princess's royal quarters and make her take care of every inconvenience that comes up. Inconveniences, I'll point out, that Spike apparently managed to resolve pretty well! Honestly, this episode does a great job illustrating the hydra-like situation of massive, organized gatherings. The problem is that early on, it's setting up that this well meaning, put upon kid is meant to take the fall. Also, although I didn't hear this name the first time I watched this, "dragon sneeze trees?" I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking of the personal hell Spike must be in from these things. I can't stand my own hay fever. Something else I really liked though - Cadence. We get the impression that she's running around trying to make sure things go smoothly. But even more impressive, she actually talks to Spike like he's actually a child. Besides that one poorly thought-out and ill timed request, she takes a gentle and patient, yet firm and expecting tone with him. She suspects he probably won't make the right decision, but understands how it's from a lack of physical maturity and experience.
Great review I liked what you said about Pinkie Pie and her character development and I thought her scenes were the best parts of the episode. Overall the episode was alright, the Yaks who were unlikable violent jerks, they really brought down the episode. As for Princess Spike I didn't like it and it felt like a step down from the Equestia Games. I don't think a lot of people will agree with me, but I think Equestria Games is the best Spike episode, he screws up and grows as a character without me disliking the episode. That didn't happen in Princess Spike, I thought Spike was annoying and I didn't like what he was doing.
The major complaint with the episode is not Pinkie, many people--- detractors included, cite as a highlight in this episode. The problem we have is that the Yaks aren't even characters, just a joke. And not even a good one. One joke that over stays its welcome for most of the episode. Oh, and Spike nearly starts a war because the writers forgot that he could play the piano! Also, it is not random stupidity that makes a good joke, nor is it logic that kills humor. Good jokes are built off of cleverness, surprise, suffering, timing, and reactions. Jokes are ruined when they are thrown haphazardly, grow predictable so as to be repetitive, bring lasting harm, and so on. Ya'know, like the Yaks. Now please, either learn to read or get an education in what it means to be humorous before you talk to me about good humor. Now good day, sir.
Aside from your idea how humor works being totally off base, I'm glad that you realize that no one with common sense thinks lesser of Pinkie Pie for being the MVP of this episode. That said, I would like to apologize for my own tangent.
mayborneflower _"Oh, and Spike nearly starts a war because the writers forgot that he could play the piano!"_ I don't think Spike not playing the piano himself means that the writers forgot that he's a good piano player (though considering it has probably been a long time since we saw Spike do that, they might forgot) but more that he's afraid that his piano playing may not be perfect enough for the very unpleasable yaks and that they might smash even more property, so he decided to go with a self-playing piano.
I loved mlp. But i hated their representation of race. The one character who is explictly black (the zebra with the mohawk) gets her house ruined by the mane 6 attack and she is expected to be okay with it cause the mane 6 learned their lesson about not attacking ponies who dont conform to their ideas of a good pony. I actually stopped watching the show for a while because i hated that episode so much. But eventually i stopped watching because i didnt give a fuck about the ponies anymore. The moment rarity made fun of the zebra's hair and called it ugly was the moment i realized i cannot be emotionally invested in these pieces of shit anymore.
I was fine with Princess Spike--didn't care too much for the story and such, but I enjoyed the character interactions enough that I thought it was sufficiently entertaining. I really enjoyed Party Pooped, though. All this decrying of "negative male stereotypes" is just... ridiculous, in my opinion. It's like all the ridiculousness of the "not enough female characters that meet our arbitrary guidelines" that feminists push has somehow flipped around, and I'll say the same thing I say when people whine about the portrayal of female characters: The show isn't obligated to have male characters. Let it do what it wants to do. Why is there this strange "we need portrayals of *gender X* that represents people we would be comfortable being friends with IRL"? It's silly.
I didn't like Party Pooped at all. The characterization of Twilight especially I didn't like. She seemed completely incompetent and nothing but a stressful idiot. Also the mane 6 never getting upset about the yaks is something I dislike.
Easily one of the worst Episodes of the entire Series... aside from seeing Cherry Jubilee again and Pinkie's Determination (no I was not trying to make an Undertale Reference here) there was next to nothing good in that Episode (I even "ragequited" it after Twilights Fear was revealed) I can only hope that the Comics will redeem the Yaks (and Blueblood)
the reason spike gets so much hate is that he isnt a cute female pony. the mane 6 are "out of character" and do stupid crap all the time for the sake of rule of fun/cool but since they are the waifus of thousands of bronies they get whiteknighted to death. i see him as the average 13 year old boy trying find his place in the world,and like most kids he usually fails or gets unlucky. he is a very competent boy to me,being an apprentice/assistant to 2 equestrian princesses,saving the crystal empire twice and generally being self sufficient. then we have people who think Twilight and Rarity abuse him for free slave labor,despite being very loving and protective of him.
TheKalimanMX Bronies bitch and whine all the fucking time, I hate pony reviews, they are annoying and they overanalyze everything to a point that they get really ridiculous
Fan Jiang yup,Spike and CMC episodes are usually the weakest ones,just dumb kids getting in trouble and hijinks ensuing. its much easier to use him as a buttmonkey to set up jokes in the show than to make an interesting story for him. but he still has a pretty sweet life,being practically royalty,living in a huge castle and traveling all over world. Rarity even showers him in gems,hats and costumes for his work,which is much more than the typical friendzoned kid usually gets for simping.
Fan Jiang He have good episodes, the one from the equestria games, in the begining of season 3 he got a lof of spotlight, even more that twilight friends, I like a lot the episode of the owl, and the episode of last week was very good I really dont get why bronies like to bitch so much about spike character
Actually Spike can play the piano (see Over a Barrel). My best guess he wanted to play it safe and didn't get smashed if he'd misplayed, see how this ended. Still if I was to recut this episode I would make it all from Pinkies perspective with flashbacks to the yaks as she talks to people.
Both episodes were written or co-written by a new writer who worked on "Johnny Test" and it really shows. Little logic, bad characterizations, bad pacing, etc.
This would have made an excellent Rarity episode. If Rarity had to deal with the yaks the whole time. Show them around and let them maybe stay with her or she had to fit them for some sort of outfit to recognize the friendship between equestria and yakyakistan. Rarity had to be polite even when she didn't want to because the yaks were destroying everything. Twilight would be constantly telling Rarity just to let it go. Let them do what they want because we want to be friends with them. Then in the end Rarity puts her hoof down and tells the yaks how disrespectful and rude they are. Maybe the yaks leave and are still mad or maybe they are sorry but twilight and Rarity realize that it's important to be able to stand up to people if they treat others with such disrespect and rudeness regardless of their position of importance. Also the yaks could learn that friendship means respecting each other and in some cases they will have to sacrifice their comfort.
I think you were being way too hard on Party Pooped. I thought the yaks and stressed Twilight were entertaining and it makes sense for her to still look up to Celestia even after becoming a princess too. Plus, all the parts with Pinkie were just spectacular!
Well, Spike does try and own up to it! There are many times near the end of the episode where he tries to tell the mob that he was the cause of it all.
Really? Am I the only one who found the second half of Princess Spike more interesting? It was a meh episode overall but couldn't stand that first half. Party Poop was a good episode. Great but not good. I actually enjoyed Twilight. The faces here for me were the best parts and Beatle Ponies, need I say more?
"How did this take place in one day?" Well, this is Pinkie Pie, a pony who acts quite like a Looney Tune character. So yeah, not much logic applies to her.
By the way, Spike was able to play piano on his own back in Over a Barrel, so technically the reliance on an automatic piano is a step backward for him--not just a talent denial.
I was kinda hoping we'd get a Cheese cameo in Party Pooped....she inspired him, so, why not have him inspire her? Ah well, it was definitely more enjoyable than Princess Spike....
No offense, but you were really pessimistic towards these episodes, I know your job as a reviewer is to review, but I found both of these episodes moderately enjoyable, they're not perfect, but they were surely better then some of the episodes we've had over the years. But the only part in "party pooped" where I think your rage was justified is where spike was shown playing a piano, but it turned out the piano was playing itself, I MEAN THEY GAVE SPIKE ONE CHARACTER TRAIT, AND THEN SHAT ALL OVER IT IN THE NEXT SCENE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF PROGRESSING THE PLOT! Ugh, its times like these where I wish the writers weren't completely brain dead....
With the exception of the season premiere and the 100th episode I can't really say I've enjoyed this season so far. I can't tell if I'm growing out of the show or if it's getting worse. Once again we get this cool new idea that can change the dynamic of the show (Princess Twilight, The Magic Map Table) only for it to be increasingly mediocre slice of life episode.
Wait, were you expecting Spike to be a GOOD character?! He's literally the worst! Ever! They could kill him off and not a single fan would shed even a single tear.
I am really rather behind on MLP now... Princess Spike tripped me up so hard with its name alone that it took me forever to even manage to press play on it.
Princess Spike: FUCK THIS EPISODE! My god can Spike catch a fucking break. For once he did something right and he has to be scolded by Cadance and the episode does everything in its power to make her right. Ya worst episode every to be made. Party Poop: Worst pinkie episode to be made. Seriously the yaks are annoying and not even funny even when you vision them as annoying people you met. Not to mention it is so cringy with its humor especially with Twilight and that fucking quesadilla joke. Also slap in happy ending is way too force.
What frustrated me the most about last weeks episode is the fact that pinkie set off to bring something authentic back from Yakyakistan and.... SHE DOES. the authentic yak sled a yak child was playing on that transports her all the way back to ponyville. AND YET THEY DONT MENTION IT. THE SLED IS COMPLETELY IGNORED.
This lessens my frustration none. And it could've been a better use of deus ex machina to have it be used as the 'authentic' thing pinkie went in search of.
vtech325 apparently you didn't pay very close attention to the episode. Pinkie went to yakyakistan specifically to bring back something that was 'authentically' yak. Because that was the cause of the yaks temper tantrums. The ponies were trying to reproduce things from yakyakistan and nothing was 'yak' enough. The sled would have been, since it was a yak sled.
Aryana Hill Yes, but I safely assumed she intended to bring back something she could actually *use*. How could she possibly use that sled to impress the Yaks? And why would the Yaks even care? None of them would even be able to fit on the thing.
I hate to be that person but in over a barrel spike plays the piano just not expert level like he was pretending to play in party pooped
***** Exactly! It was just show tunes, meant for the common rabble.
spike played the piano in over a barrel
Pinkie's travels are not suppposed to be realistic, she even lampshades how she managed to form a band that broke up is an afternoon, breaking reality for comedy is funny and Pinkie's thing and I loved it :). I thought Twilight and Pinkie were both great in this episode. The main problems were that the Yaks were completely unlikeable, until the very end and even then not much better. Maybe they need to do a Lost Treasure of Griffinstone type of episode for them next season. The other issue was that the moral and the conclusion were easy to see coming but I do not know how they could have changed that. And why Twiligh did not wear her crown in either of the episodes when they were formal princess occasions? But I do not care about how Spike is potrayed, he was fine in my opinion.
Sara Samaletdin You predicated that Pinkie Pie's travels would be for nothing and, rather than finding the authentic Yak culture, she'd simply give it up and try to welcome them "the pony way"? Because, while I thought that is what SHOULD happen, it isn't what I thought was GOING to happen, so it was still a twist.
The moral and solution was pretty obvious from the point when there was the montage of yak's complaining about things not being perfect. But Pinkie's traveled were such a distraction and so ammusing I forgot the solution for a while. So it did not ruin the episode or anything.
I feel like the show has more of a running streak of negatively portraying other species outside of ponies more than male characters. Changelings=evil, Chimera=evil, Dragons=jerks, Griffons=jerks, Yaks=jerks etc.
Worst thing about Princess Spike was that the big disaster Spike caused came from him trying to HELP Twilight and not reap the benefits of being a princess so if he was being an ass or not he still would've caused the disaster by doing the job he was supposed to do in the first place.
Well he should not have lied to people and say the ordered came from Twilight.
Which had absolutely nothing with what Dolan just said. Literally nothing after the water main mattered. Disaster would've struck no matter what.
I must sadly concur. Even Party Pooped found a way to redeem itself.
Oh yes.
Dolan Duk I think it would be more acceptable for people if Spike didn't have that brief selfish streak where he started demanding favors in Twilight's name. Up to that point, he was genuinely trying his best, but he simply didn't have the experience to make wise decisions, despite his attempts.
actually.... we did see spike play the piano before, in over a barrel. he played it pretty well too, but that was in an episode where they forgot they hated spike.
The one thing the comics always do better than the show: treating Spike like a character rather than a punching bag with fire breath.
2:13 never seen before....really?!?!? SPIKE PLAYED THE PIANO IN PINKIE'S SONG IN OVER A BARREL!!!!!!!
Party Pooped was written by one of the former writers of Johnny Test. So anything you didn't like can be blamed on that.
***** I personally find Princess Spike to be a good episode.Plus, I like it more than both Appleoosa's Most Wanted and the Lost Treasure of Griffonstone
***** I don't mind an episode being predictable, since even some of the better ones (including Pinkie Pride, my favorite episode) are predictable.
I personally found it to at least be funnier than Appleoosa's most wanted and The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone.
And Spike would have started abusing his position sooner or later, regardless of Cadance's intervention.
As for why Celestia and Luna only appear in the beginning, I think the reason is that none of the characters in the episode thought to talk to them about the problems.
funcoolfunfun I respect your opinion but I have to disagree with you. The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone was, in my opinion, much better than Princess Spike, Party Pooped and Appleoosa's Most Wanted combined.
Rockin' Strings Here are my biggest problems with Lost Treasure of Griffonstone, and why it, to me, is the second weakest episode of the season so far:
1. The comedy somehow felt... lackluster. The only really funny joke was when Rainbow acted like Twilight and had her mane styled to look like her.
2. Something about the tone felt... off. It wasn't mean spirited, but it all felt just... unpleasant.
3. Gilda. Despite her being reformed, she's still one of my least favorite characters, and what little new information we got of her didn't do much with how it was used.
4. The town of Griffonstone. I'll just say it: I couldn't care less about the town if I tried. As to why, go to Deviantart and look up FlyingBrickAnimation's review of the episode.
Party Pooped is my fourth favorite episode of the season so far because it's one of the funnier episodes of the season, the Yak's had interesting designs (more interesting than any of the Griffons), it somehow feels a lot more upbeat, and the information we found out about Pinkie was both hilarious and it made total sense for her character.
***** Regardless of the problems Princess Spike has as a story (and I admit,despite still finding it good, it DOES have its share of problems, which is why it's still the third weakest episode of the season for me), I still enjoy it more than TLToG if only because I care about Spike more than I care about the Griffons, and it's at least more lighthearted.
The "Put the hay in the apple and eat the candle" line was still funny, despite it being similar to a joke from Castle Sweet Castle. Plus, I actually laughed a little at the way the ending abruptly cuts off.
How did Pinkie Pie do it in one day?
In the words of The Fiery Joker "It's Pinkie Pie, don't question it!"
I think the best reviewers are the ones that I can disagree with, yet still understand exactly what their reasoning is one way or another. You fit this category.
Yea i know right? Celestia forbid, Spike ever develops!
About Pinkie traveling to Yak Yakistan and back in (what she states) "most of the afternoon" would be unacceptable ..... if it was any pony other then Pinkie.
Pinkie is.... Pinkie, i don't know, maybe she folded the space/time continuum or something. I am still paying of the medical bills caused by my temporally insanity that caused by that time i tried to understand Pinkie Pie, so i stopped questioning her.
Oh and honestly Pinkie having files about every pony, was also a tiny bit creepy.
Also, someone should place casedias in random places of Twilights castle, that will be hilarious.
The typo in the title is hilarious(no offense btw)! And so is cellspex! Love ur vids!
My observation, it took last season a long time to get to the key episodes and even then fans complaied that there was too much adventure and not enough slice of life.
Spike played the piano before in that episode with the buffaloes. When Pikie Pie was trying to get the buffaloes and ponies to share and care.
Princess Spike...I approached it with the same mindset as Power Ponies: it didn't need to exist, so I could just watch the opening and the end and basically fill in the middle with everything that I needed to know. I didn't enjoy it in the slightest, either, and I found your viewpoints to be a very good interpretation on what was presented.
As someone studying diplomacy, Party Pooped was actually pretty good. The Yaks were...undeniably a stereotypical interpretation of what we view foreign dignitaries as and probably how they view us, but the kudos of the episode go to Pinkie. She was going above and beyond to try to ensure that everything was perfect, which was so nice to see, and her ending characterization was just a delight. Out of all the episodes written by former Johnny Test writers, this one actually feels the most put together and enjoyable.
Great video, and I can't wait to see your next one.
Princess Spike, I consider to be right in the middle for Spike episodes. I consider it the third weakest episode of the season so far, but I enjoy it more than Appleoosa's Most Wanted and The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone.
Party Pooped is my fourth favorite episode of the season so far.
Party Pooped is the only episode of the show I completely ignored with no intention of going back to watch it and it's all thanks to the one minute before the theme song started...
The message is the same that Adam Sandler give in his speech in the movie "bedtime stories" XD
Spike has played piano before, it was in Over A Barrel. I'm gonna assume he didn't actually play piano here because he didn't know the song.
Thank you! I thought I'd be hearing these points made a lot more than I have, so props to you. The only point where I differ all that much is that Princess Spike is the one I'm 50/50 on (not so much because there was anything I particularly liked as because the bad stuff was still fairly painless to me), and Party Pooped is the one that eventually bottomed out for me. Pinkie Pie's journey was pretty good, but even without the yaks - who I agree were the worst part - there was more than a little humor I thought was lame.
I do wish there'd been more focus on Pinkie Pie's character arc though. I have to admit, I don't think I fully appreciated just how far that went where she's concerned.
Spike playing the piano in season 1? Anybody?
I have no idea why this episode would ruin Fancy Pants. He had every reason to be aggravated over the situation. Heck, anyone would be aggravated if they were in his shoes. He was reasonable and quite frankly understandable in all of his actions.
Thanks for defending my dragon Spike. 'Princess Spike' bored me because we are back to Spike's pity party that began with 'Power Ponies' and continued through the 'Equestrian Games'. I have no doubt next season we'll have another Spike as poor passed over.
Party Pooped: Honestly, I thought this episode would be when Pinkie gives up party planning for a bit and Ponyville had to manage without her. I got the same impression as you, that there was second episode with Pinkie's travels, but they crammed it into one. I think the writers got sloppy because, 'its a filler episode' no one cares. Worse than a case of senioritis.
Fun useless fact for all of you: on July 4th i celebrate 4 years working on the same place... so there's that, thanks Celly xD
Cupcake lair?! Is that a cupcake reference I smell
Again party pooped feels like two different episodes get smashed into one, like the season 3 finale, which leads to a super fast pacing left no time for the audiences to properly consider what just happened. Pinkie pie travel through the whole Equestria and the solution of the yak yak party has no real connection,what she learn in this episode do not require the whole travelling thing. Just imagine it get cut into two episode, one is pinkie pie travel everywhere and interact with all kinds of pony, the other was when pinkie pie not in town, the other Mane 5 struggles to prepare a party then find the part cave and learns that preparing party is not as easy as it looks.
As for Spike, I start to think that Hasbro hates him and forbid the writers writes any good story about him.
It's Pinkie, therefore we need no logic...
This episode didn't pile on Spike's negative qualities much at all. It just suddenly wanted Spike to be at fault so they could make a tenuous-at-best connection to the events. Spike really isn't the bad guy here, that's just a charade to cover up a poorly structured story.
Every major thing that goes wrong at the end- the water main, the trees falling over, even that polo game if you want to count it- occurred without Spike acting out of selfish intent. So his big, heartfelt speech at the end means absolutely nothing. The episode wants the characters, and audience, to blame Spike for things that were largely out of his control. The real thing to be blamed is the poor scheduling, which has construction going on the day of the Summit, and didn't give Twilight one night of sleep (which admittedly, might have been her own doing).
If we have to put blame on a person, it's Cadence. She suddenly gives this intense, vague order to a kid, and apparently didn't take into account anything that Twilight had to do while she napped. But if Twilight really didn't have other duties between her nap and those few meetings, then all those diplomats are jackasses for thinking they can walk into the Princess's royal quarters and make her take care of every inconvenience that comes up. Inconveniences, I'll point out, that Spike apparently managed to resolve pretty well!
Honestly, this episode does a great job illustrating the hydra-like situation of massive, organized gatherings. The problem is that early on, it's setting up that this well meaning, put upon kid is meant to take the fall.
Also, although I didn't hear this name the first time I watched this, "dragon sneeze trees?" I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking of the personal hell Spike must be in from these things. I can't stand my own hay fever.
Something else I really liked though - Cadence. We get the impression that she's running around trying to make sure things go smoothly. But even more impressive, she actually talks to Spike like he's actually a child. Besides that one poorly thought-out and ill timed request, she takes a gentle and patient, yet firm and expecting tone with him. She suspects he probably won't make the right decision, but understands how it's from a lack of physical maturity and experience.
Great review I liked what you said about Pinkie Pie and her character development and I thought her scenes were the best parts of the episode. Overall the episode was alright, the Yaks who were unlikable violent jerks, they really brought down the episode. As for Princess Spike I didn't like it and it felt like a step down from the Equestia Games. I don't think a lot of people will agree with me, but I think Equestria Games is the best Spike episode, he screws up and grows as a character without me disliking the episode. That didn't happen in Princess Spike, I thought Spike was annoying and I didn't like what he was doing.
Well, at least we're in full agreement about Party Pooped. Stay shiny, Celly.
The major complaint with the episode is not Pinkie, many people--- detractors included, cite as a highlight in this episode. The problem we have is that the Yaks aren't even characters, just a joke. And not even a good one. One joke that over stays its welcome for most of the episode. Oh, and Spike nearly starts a war because the writers forgot that he could play the piano!
Also, it is not random stupidity that makes a good joke, nor is it logic that kills humor. Good jokes are built off of cleverness, surprise, suffering, timing, and reactions. Jokes are ruined when they are thrown haphazardly, grow predictable so as to be repetitive, bring lasting harm, and so on. Ya'know, like the Yaks. Now please, either learn to read or get an education in what it means to be humorous before you talk to me about good humor. Now good day, sir.
Or madam.
Aside from your idea how humor works being totally off base, I'm glad that you realize that no one with common sense thinks lesser of Pinkie Pie for being the MVP of this episode. That said, I would like to apologize for my own tangent.
mayborneflower
_"Oh, and Spike nearly starts a war because the writers forgot that he could play the piano!"_
I don't think Spike not playing the piano himself means that the writers forgot that he's a good piano player (though considering it has probably been a long time since we saw Spike do that, they might forgot) but more that he's afraid that his piano playing may not be perfect enough for the very unpleasable yaks and that they might smash even more property, so he decided to go with a self-playing piano.
Indeed. It would be within Spike's character. That said, coming off the previous episode, it remains a sore point for me.
CellSpex you misspelled reviews
There's nothing "American tourist" or even "tourist" about the yaks.
No one mentioned the beatles refrence? ok unu
Canada day but thanks for the nod to other countries
PLEASE REVIEW WHEN MARNIE WAS THERE!!!!!
I loved mlp. But i hated their representation of race. The one character who is explictly black (the zebra with the mohawk) gets her house ruined by the mane 6 attack and she is expected to be okay with it cause the mane 6 learned their lesson about not attacking ponies who dont conform to their ideas of a good pony. I actually stopped watching the show for a while because i hated that episode so much. But eventually i stopped watching because i didnt give a fuck about the ponies anymore. The moment rarity made fun of the zebra's hair and called it ugly was the moment i realized i cannot be emotionally invested in these pieces of shit anymore.
I was fine with Princess Spike--didn't care too much for the story and such, but I enjoyed the character interactions enough that I thought it was sufficiently entertaining.
I really enjoyed Party Pooped, though. All this decrying of "negative male stereotypes" is just... ridiculous, in my opinion. It's like all the ridiculousness of the "not enough female characters that meet our arbitrary guidelines" that feminists push has somehow flipped around, and I'll say the same thing I say when people whine about the portrayal of female characters:
The show isn't obligated to have male characters. Let it do what it wants to do. Why is there this strange "we need portrayals of *gender X* that represents people we would be comfortable being friends with IRL"? It's silly.
I didn't like Party Pooped at all.
The characterization of Twilight especially I didn't like. She seemed completely incompetent and nothing but a stressful idiot. Also the mane 6 never getting upset about the yaks is something I dislike.
I seen wart and grade in Clarence little buddy episode look at it!!!!
fyi canada was july 1st
REVIEW TOKYO GHOUL PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Easily one of the worst Episodes of the entire Series... aside from seeing Cherry Jubilee again and Pinkie's Determination (no I was not trying to make an Undertale Reference here) there was next to nothing good in that Episode (I even "ragequited" it after Twilights Fear was revealed)
I can only hope that the Comics will redeem the Yaks (and Blueblood)
Spike actually *can* play the piano really well.
He did so in "Over a barrel".
the reason spike gets so much hate is that he isnt a cute female pony.
the mane 6 are "out of character" and do stupid crap all the time for the sake of rule of fun/cool but since they are the waifus of thousands of bronies they get whiteknighted to death.
i see him as the average 13 year old boy trying find his place in the world,and like most kids he usually fails or gets unlucky.
he is a very competent boy to me,being an apprentice/assistant to 2 equestrian princesses,saving the crystal empire twice and generally being self sufficient.
then we have people who think Twilight and Rarity abuse him for free slave labor,despite being very loving and protective of him.
TheKalimanMX The problem is that, unlike Mane 6, he barely get any decent episode. As the only major male character, he deserves so much more.
TheKalimanMX
Bronies bitch and whine all the fucking time, I hate pony reviews, they are annoying and they overanalyze everything to a point that they get really ridiculous
Fan Jiang yup,Spike and CMC episodes are usually the weakest ones,just dumb kids getting in trouble and hijinks ensuing.
its much easier to use him as a buttmonkey to set up jokes in the show than to make an interesting story for him.
but he still has a pretty sweet life,being practically royalty,living in a huge castle and traveling all over world.
Rarity even showers him in gems,hats and costumes for his work,which is much more than the typical friendzoned kid usually gets for simping.
Fan Jiang
He have good episodes, the one from the equestria games, in the begining of season 3 he got a lof of spotlight, even more that twilight friends, I like a lot the episode of the owl, and the episode of last week was very good
I really dont get why bronies like to bitch so much about spike character
mundopivotwebs They want to see him get improvement as a character. Most of the episodes that revolve around Spike just don't give him justice.
Actually Spike can play the piano (see Over a Barrel). My best guess he wanted to play it safe and didn't get smashed if he'd misplayed, see how this ended.
Still if I was to recut this episode I would make it all from Pinkies perspective with flashbacks to the yaks as she talks to people.
Both episodes were written or co-written by a new writer who worked on "Johnny Test" and it really shows. Little logic, bad characterizations, bad pacing, etc.
Ummmmm...... Spike played piano in Over a Barrel...
This would have made an excellent Rarity episode. If Rarity had to deal with the yaks the whole time. Show them around and let them maybe stay with her or she had to fit them for some sort of outfit to recognize the friendship between equestria and yakyakistan. Rarity had to be polite even when she didn't want to because the yaks were destroying everything. Twilight would be constantly telling Rarity just to let it go. Let them do what they want because we want to be friends with them. Then in the end Rarity puts her hoof down and tells the yaks how disrespectful and rude they are. Maybe the yaks leave and are still mad or maybe they are sorry but twilight and Rarity realize that it's important to be able to stand up to people if they treat others with such disrespect and rudeness regardless of their position of importance. Also the yaks could learn that friendship means respecting each other and in some cases they will have to sacrifice their comfort.
I think you were being way too hard on Party Pooped. I thought the yaks and stressed Twilight were entertaining and it makes sense for her to still look up to Celestia even after becoming a princess too. Plus, all the parts with Pinkie were just spectacular!
thepinkbrigade Half the time I wonder if most of these brony critics have even seen another cartoon before in their lives.
thepinkbrigade True, but some of them are really good. Silverquill and Mr Enter are cool most of the time, and Joshscorcher is the best out there.
Well, Spike does try and own up to it! There are many times near the end of the episode where he tries to tell the mob that he was the cause of it all.
Really? Am I the only one who found the second half of Princess Spike more interesting? It was a meh episode overall but couldn't stand that first half.
Party Poop was a good episode. Great but not good. I actually enjoyed Twilight. The faces here for me were the best parts and Beatle Ponies, need I say more?
"How did this take place in one day?"
Well, this is Pinkie Pie, a pony who acts quite like a Looney Tune character. So yeah, not much logic applies to her.
Aw, Spike episode was brushed over. Was waiting to hear a rant about it. That episode was just straight up horrible.
By the way, Spike was able to play piano on his own back in Over a Barrel, so technically the reliance on an automatic piano is a step backward for him--not just a talent denial.
Spike played piano in Over A Barell
(And previous generations)
CellSpex Hey Cell, have you ever watched Steven Universe?
Theres a typo in the title!
I feel bad for pointing that out, but I love your videos
I was kinda hoping we'd get a Cheese cameo in Party Pooped....she inspired him, so, why not have him inspire her? Ah well, it was definitely more enjoyable than Princess Spike....
why do spike episodes suck? i've always expected better from him
hey Cellspex, will you ever review the season 5 finale episodes? I think you'd love them cause they bring back THE CUTIE MAP
oh, and a certain pony
You've got. A good point about Twilight CONSTANTLY looking for Celestia's approval
nice video, thanks for all, keep make more videos
you are great,
:3
No offense, but you were really pessimistic towards these episodes, I know your job as a reviewer is to review, but I found both of these episodes moderately enjoyable, they're not perfect, but they were surely better then some of the episodes we've had over the years. But the only part in "party pooped" where I think your rage was justified is where spike was shown playing a piano, but it turned out the piano was playing itself, I MEAN THEY GAVE SPIKE ONE CHARACTER TRAIT, AND THEN SHAT ALL OVER IT IN THE NEXT SCENE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF PROGRESSING THE PLOT! Ugh, its times like these where I wish the writers weren't completely brain dead....
Spike plays piano in Over a Barrel, Or would that be Pian'y? :P
With the exception of the season premiere and the 100th episode I can't really say I've enjoyed this season so far. I can't tell if I'm growing out of the show or if it's getting worse. Once again we get this cool new idea that can change the dynamic of the show (Princess Twilight, The Magic Map Table) only for it to be increasingly mediocre slice of life episode.
The few saving points for Party Pooped were the faces and the ENDING.
THE FACES ARE NOW PERMANENTLY DOWNLOADED TO MY DESKTOP.
Wait, were you expecting Spike to be a GOOD character?!
He's literally the worst! Ever! They could kill him off and not a single fan would shed even a single tear.
That sled feels like a waste... I thought pinkie was going to use it as authentic yakyakistan... Craftsmanship or something
I am really rather behind on MLP now... Princess Spike tripped me up so hard with its name alone that it took me forever to even manage to press play on it.
Did you ever think about doing a gravity falls series. It has a very deep mystery and I think it would be cool if you could elaborate on it
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Americans! Calibrating the most important day of their country when ever they feel like it.
This kinda predicts the future well past when writing this comment (Logan Paul)
Oh my freaking god is going to become kung fu panda three I can't believe this my dreams have come tri
I'm from Czech Republic. Thanks for happy July. :D
i have another name for the yaks the equestrian demolishon team
May you please review death note? I would love to hear you're insights on that...
Maybe they want to be friends with the yaks so that if there's ever a war they don't just crush the ponies!
To be honest, it was a cluster-fuck of an episode.
Pacing just felt insane to me.
What was up with your mic, it randomly changed a few times in the vid
1:45 It was funnier.
Why do you sound like Blue From Fosters Home
2:10 *cough* Over a Barrel. *cough*
ignore us Canadians and Canada day I see? :(
What about Happy Canada day?
Also, war is fully canon.
Contiue plz
Princess Spike: FUCK THIS EPISODE! My god can Spike catch a fucking break. For once he did something right and he has to be scolded by Cadance and the episode does everything in its power to make her right. Ya worst episode every to be made.
Party Poop: Worst pinkie episode to be made. Seriously the yaks are annoying and not even funny even when you vision them as annoying people you met. Not to mention it is so cringy with its humor especially with Twilight and that fucking quesadilla joke. Also slap in happy ending is way too force.
AnimeWolfgamer But the Beatles reference, man.
Thomas Granger Monette Burke Ok I'll give it that.
What frustrated me the most about last weeks episode is the fact that pinkie set off to bring something authentic back from Yakyakistan and.... SHE DOES. the authentic yak sled a yak child was playing on that transports her all the way back to ponyville. AND YET THEY DONT MENTION IT. THE SLED IS COMPLETELY IGNORED.
This lessens my frustration none. And it could've been a better use of deus ex machina to have it be used as the 'authentic' thing pinkie went in search of.
Why would the Yaks care about a sled?
What would Pinkie even use it for?
Aryana Hill I thought during the episode that that was going to be used. It was a really annoying red herring to anyone trying to predict the end.
vtech325 apparently you didn't pay very close attention to the episode. Pinkie went to yakyakistan specifically to bring back something that was 'authentically' yak. Because that was the cause of the yaks temper tantrums. The ponies were trying to reproduce things from yakyakistan and nothing was 'yak' enough. The sled would have been, since it was a yak sled.
Aryana Hill Yes, but I safely assumed she intended to bring back something she could actually *use*.
How could she possibly use that sled to impress the Yaks?
And why would the Yaks even care?
None of them would even be able to fit on the thing.
1:49 simple answer
its pinkie dont question it
Happy July everybody.