How to change a timing belt on a 1.8l perol Citroën/Peugeot engine
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Tutorial about a timing belt + accessories belt exange on a 1.8L petrol engine ( EW7J after year 2004) from Peugeot/Citroën vehicles.
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OK, all done, the lower belt took 2 hrs to get on, All done and working fine. Took me 2 days. Thank you so much Olivier for being so kind and responding to me, most of the time. This would of costed 600 pounds in Sweden, that is why l gave this a go. For any of you out there that thinks it will be as easy as Olivier shows you, Beware took me 2 days of problems on most of the steps.
I think by far the most thorough and best video of this job and engine I coudl find. Could not have done that without your video Olivier. Merci beaucoup Olivier.
Hello, I'm pleased to see that this tutorial helped you trough your timing belt job. Your comment fuels me to make other videos. Thank you very much and congratulations.
Just changed my belt, pump, idler and tensioner, its the same model (EW7J4) but a 2001 yr so the crankshaft pulley arrangement was slightly different. I will confirm that some of the fixings are VERY difficult to reach because of the lack of clearance. Just a note, the screws holding the bottom cover have different sizes for some reason! the top right one is larger than the rest. Thanks again for a clear video.
Thank you for your feedback.
I'm glad it helps.
Brilliant video, thank you! Colouring the parts made it very easy to follow.
Excellent step by step tutorial. I have a same car and decided to change timing belt by myself in next time.
Александр Люлько I'm glad that this tutorial can help you.
Kind regards.
Further to my last post, I had a feint rattling sound from the engine on tickover and when I changed the belt I noticed that the damper on the exhaust cam sprocket was loose it should not have any free movement. A new sprocket was fitted.
Hi Olivier,thanks for the reply,as you say if I were in any doubt about the positioning then I too would mark everything,I have been working on Citroens since the early seventies,but this is new to me and the many people I have asked including Citroen main agents! Anyway I put it all back together we're I thought it should be and it runs and seems ok,but I am still going to try and find out the correct way of doing it,then I will strip it and check just to be sure.Thanks again Steve
Hi Olivier, you should have your own T.V. Show! Great tutorial & very very clear precise instructions , also very good English but I love your accent, vive la France.
Thank you. I'll try to produce more tutorials.
And for sure, I'll do them in French and English.
Merci.
Thank you, an excellent clear video, will help me when I change mine soon.
SORRY "THE CRANK SHAFT SPROKET" IS FREE WHEELING!!
NOT THE CRANK SHAFT ITSELF!!
I make this mistake because of my script misstyping. Sorry again.
Hahaha, I couldn't realise what you said when I first watched this video. Thanks for this really useful film.
Hi again Olivier, that timing tool at 4,32 in your vid, I could not get it in all the way like you show ,we could only get the thick piece in 50 % of the way, god l hope this will be ok, and it still worked. Today now going to pour new coolant back in and hope there are no leaks.and then reinstall everything.
Hi Kevin,
I've read somewhere that this happens in case of an automatic transmission.
when you rotate the engine by hand should the tensioner pulley index remain in the same place or move up and down slightly??
Thank you
Yes. The index might move slightly. It is not a problem as far as it stays close to the notch.
Merci Olivier ... You saved me a lot of money and a lot of time ... Thanks
FK ... England, UK.
Olivier having problems you never showed the other plastic cover in the way of the best. ? Can not even find the drive shaft ?
Lock the flywheel with the shouldered pin, undo the damper pulley, a bunch of screws and the lower cover comes to you.
Hi Olivier,I know this video was from a while ago but I am strugling to find any info on my problem,and as the procedure you have shown in this video is very similar to my engine I thought I would ask I hope you don,t mind,I have done many cambelt changes over the years but this one has me stumped and I cannot get any info even from local Citroen dealer.My problem is the crankshaft sprocket
on my c4 Picasso 2008 1.8 16v petrol is I believe they call it semi floating,it has a key but there ia about 3.5mm radial movement in the keyway,and I cannot find out how to set the sprocket on the crank.At first I thought it was badly worn but it seems not.I have been told the reason for this floating sprocket is because it has no movement on the camshaft sprockets,but it makes no sense to me.hope you can offer some advice thank you Steve.
Joe P Hello,
When I replace a timing belt I always make marks on belt, camshafst and crankshaft sprokets, and on the engine case.
So that I'm always sure to put everything back in place.
But I guess it's too late actualy.
I'm sorry, but in this case, I have no clue.
Try planetecitroen.com.
I hope you will find a solution.
Hi, Great video. You say that there is no woodruff key holding the crankshaft sprocket to the crankshaft. But I can clearly see one in your video. Confused.
it doesn't hold the sprocket it holds the pulley only. So it might look like it's holding the sprocket but it doesn't.
Hi. Have problem the exhaust side camsafat keeps pushing out have changed everythink twice any ideas
i made a very good flywheel locking tool, but as the movement is nearly one tooth from undoing to doing up the crankshaft bolt which locks the freewheeling spocket in place, timing between the cam and the crank can be out by nearly 1 tooth
Hi Olivier 13,40 we can not get the tensioner to stay on the little metal notch that you show, we tighten it on that position and the metal arrow just goes higher up to maximum tension, if you understand me.
really need a reply now if possible. Is it ok, as it is,or how can we get it stay on that notch with the metal arrow. We had it tensioned right with a nail, got the timing belt on and then took out the little nail, Did not have those extra tools that you used ,so done like your other video, with just using a bent nail.
@@swedishkev you have an hex slot in the tensioner pulley.
Turn it 'till the arrow is in front of the notch.
Hold the position and tight the tensioner pulley's nut.
If it does not work, put back the old tensioner pulley to see if you have a correct result.
If yes, it means that the new tensioner pulley mechanism is a piece of crap.
If not, it means that the timing belt is too long.
I hope you didn't discard the old parts yet to compare with the new one.
@@olipirard was going to put back the old one better quality.but got the new one to work,another 2 hrs just on that.
@@swedishkev That was something!
I'm sure your statements will help the community.
Once again, well done.
See you.
Hello Olivier, I try to fill up gearbox oil, but I cannnot close it back with the nuts.( which is like a dipstick) Is there a certain metod to do ? Thank you very much.
That crankshaft lock is a stjpid desing they should have put et mark on the crank wheel so it would have been a lott easier
Excellent work, great video! Very didactic material.
I need to do this work in the same car, but previously another workshop did it wrongly, without the right tools. I’m afraid damaged valves.
I got the correct timing tools for this engine. My question is: does it matter the crankshaft sprocket position in order to do this work, thinking about the other mechanic didn’t cared the timing position and white timing marks? I have to do this work from a zero position, that’s why about my question. Really thanks for your video!
Hi Sergio,
Sorry to answer so late.
The crankshaft sproket position doesn't matter in this case as both flywheel and camshafts are timed with the proper tools.
I did white marks on the belt and sprokets as an extra insurance.
Regards
@@olipirard Hi Olivier. Really thanks for your answer! Greetings from Chile.
Hi Pierre that 4th screw is impossible to undo on the plastic cover, even l can not unclip the plastic clip on fuel line without breaking it. How could they design a car like this rediculous.
Hi Kevin,
By the way my name is Olivier.
You are right. Everything is engineered to discourage DIYer's.
Don't give up. I remember trimming a hex key to remove that silly fastener.
@@olipirard Sorry Olivier, dont know where l got Pierre from. That dam 4th screw took me 3 hours. I know one thing it is never going back in there. I can not even think how citroen would get it out. I did make a smaller hex tool ,but it did not really work. Used a normal one, it even took me 30 mins to take the clip away from the fuel line just did not want to unclip. Spent hours an come nowhere. Hope all goes well tomorrow when my engine knowlegeable friend turns up.
hello friend, I have broken timing belt i have to align the cam and crankshaft, i do not see any mark on the crankshaft pulley so i do not know which position can be the correct/sync. of these two pulley. Any advice would be highly appreciated. Max/Sweden
obs. The car is a Citroen C5 MK3 2010 with 2.0 HDI Diesel engine 140HP.
Hi Max,
I dug a bit on UA-cam, and found a video from a french mechanic:
At min 13:38, the man shows that behind the starter, there is a 8 or 7 millimeter hole to time the crankshaft pulley via the flywheel.
I hope it will help you.
Regards.
ua-cam.com/video/Cq5i8tU8KFQ/v-deo.html
Will it be the same at the engine ew7a 1.8 16v 125KM c4 grand picasso 2007?
mof1707
Hello,
The EW7A is a direct injection engine, it has a few more horse power compare to the EW7J.
So, the design should be the same and the way to change the timing belt as well.
Kind regards
Hello Olivier, I have a similar engine, the timing belt cut loose while driving. Really confused how to get it back on the road. Any help will be appreciated.
Hello Adama,
Since the EW series engine seems to have interferences between valves and pistons, it is most likely that when your timing belt broke, the pistons hit the valves.
It meens that some of the valves stems might be bent and so, valves and cylinder head are severly damadged.
The only way to check that is to remove the cylinder head which is kind of a difficult job for a DIYer.
Sorry for these bad news but from my perspective in will be much easier to swap the broken engine with an other one.
Maybe you have junk yard near your place where you can find one for a good price.
I hope it helps.
Kind regards.
Hola, cuando giras el cigueñal sin las bujias de encendido este debe girar sin oponer resistencia? Saludos
yes. As there is no spark plugs, there is no compression, so it easier to rotate the crankshaft
Hi Olivier. I have a Peugeot 407 EW7A 6FY 125HP. Is there any mark to align on the crankshaft and crankshaft sproket? I am asking because the crankshaft should be blocked on the flywheel and we determine the mark ourselves whether it is fixed somewhere on the engine block.
Hi Bartosz,
If you have an engine prior to 2004, the crankshaft pulley is held by 4 fasteners.
Once removed, you have a 8 mm hole in the plate and its counterpart in the engine block.
The plate hole and the engine casting hole are aligned at more or less "10 o'clock", so to speak.
Then insert a 8 mm drill bit into the holes.
If you have an engine post to 2004, just follow the procedure of this video.
I hope it helps.
Kind regards.
Hi Olivier Pirard, thank you for your answer. My engine is post 2004 yer. Yes, to this moment i know it all,i know how to block flay wheel and crankshaft, but i dont know how blocking crankshaft sproket. In yor video, i see that you Just do mark on belt, crankshaft sproket and engine case. And its all? So, when crankshaft sproket it spin araund, why we must make sign when crankshaft sproket is fasten between crankshaft pulley.
Best regards.
@@bartosz3205 I just did a mark on the crankshaft sproket for good measure.
But you are right, it is pointless as this freaking sproket spins freely around the crank shaft.
There is no way to lock it.
Even if there is a key slot in it.
The key is only there to lock the pulley.
I know it sounds crazy but the this silly sproket is only held in place by the pressure exerted by the pulley on it.
In France we use to say "Why make it simple when we can make it difficult?".
I think that these engineers who designed that crap just wanted us (common people) to cursed them.
I hope it helps.
@@olipirard Thanks a lot for explaining this. From what you wrote, I understood that if I make a mark on the crankshaft sprocket and then put the belt on it, and the marks I made are not set, nothing will happen if I have locked the flywheel correctly. Crazy crankshaft sprocket can be said that it is driven by a pulley, twisted with a torque of 44Nm and it does not matter how it is set because the pulley has a locating wedge and it determines the position of the crankshaft in relation to the camshafts. The most important thing is that the pulley is tightened securely so that the crankshaft sprocket does not turn. I hope you understood me. My regards.
Thanks for this video Olivier. Peace up!
Your welcome.
Thank you for your kind comment.
Merci beaucoup pour votre clip, c'est tres gentil. J'ai un peu de peur, mais je vais essayer de le faire cet ete. Je suis sur que ce clip va m'aider enormement. merci
Thank you for your french answer.
The most important thing is to have the correct timing tools.
Espacially the flywheel one.
Still available if you have questions.
Olivier Pirard
By the way, you can find timing tools here www.lasertools.co.uk/item.aspx?cat=1077&item=3787
Hi olivier, l really need your help, have undone the 4 screws on the water pump, but something is in the way will not come away???
Once the water pump nuts are removed, you have to remove the studs as well.
Keep in mind you still have a coolant tube inserted in the left side of the pump. So you have to pull and slide the pump on the right side.
I hope it helps.
@@olipirard thanks, realised about the studs,just wish you would of mentioned in more detail. Thanks anyway
@@swedishkev At 8:09 I said that we need to remove the studs prior the water pump removal.
You should watch the video once again not to miss such details.
@@swedishkev At 8:09 I said that we need to remove the studs prior the water pump removal.
You should watch the video once again not to miss such details.
@@olipirard oh, ok,must of missed it. Do you know them 2 plastic covers,covering the timing belt took me 6 hrs. I will never recommend anyone to do this. New water pump in place , putting all back on saturday, spent 10 hrs today under the car. Totally wrecked. Not looking forward to many hours just putting plastic covers in place. Thank for replying Olivier and helping. Much appreciated. Kevin
Hi Pierre , Fantastic tutorial indeed.I am doing this job with a friend on Thursday, he has done other cars but not a Citroen car . I have the timing tools,only the red highlighted, not the green bits that you said was not important, but you did show using them. So could you explain ,how do l do without them ? you showed using the long metal rod on some tensioner roller ,for the placing of the timing belt. I have not them timing bits.??? Was about 10.35 in video.
Hi Kevin,
First of all, thank your kind comment .
The camshaft sprockets can be locked with (if I remember well) some 8 MMS drill bits.
You might trim them because there is not that much room.
As you will do the job with a friend, instead of using the weird cylindrical tool to turn the tensioner pulley, one of you can push on the tensioner pulley index with a screwdriver under the rectangle slot and the other one with a home made tab of a sort or a bunch of spikes or whatever you have in mind, lock the index .
I hope it helps.
Kind regards.
@@olipirard hi again thanks reply . I have those timming tool in red, them 3 metal things, did you understand this, it was when you were using the green bits ,l don't have at around 10;35 min in video.??
@@swedishkev Hi Kevin,
What you saw in green at around 10:35 is an index/arrow that belongs to the tensioner pulley itself.
It is not a tool.
@@swedishkev Check this out.
It might help as well.
ua-cam.com/video/lz8YMnRIfxg/v-deo.html
@@olipirard Hi again pierre, not sure if your understanding me. Lets say like this. At 1;28 in the start of the video, you show rhe timing tools, you said the tools in green not so important, l only have the ones in red that are important. At around 11 mins you show yourself using the tools in green that l do not have, and this is the part that l can not do like your doing with them.,hope you undeestand now so if l don't have them tools in green. ??
I only need the 2 camshaft pind?
Thank you for fine video.
I have a Peugeot from 2001 with a 2.0 petrol engine. Does this video work for the 2.0 engine?
Best regards Dan from Denmark
Hi Dan,
It slightly the same thing but a bit more easy.
In your case, you don't need this silly flywheel pin.
You just need an 8 mm drill bit in the damper pulley to timed the crank shaft.
Kind Regards
this video really really helps. thank u so much
Hi Oliver, thanks for great video, is this engine the same as the 2.2L 3EFZ from 2005?
Hello,
I don't know if this procedure fits for that kind of engine.
It works on the EW series.
Can you please write down the measurements to the pins, so I can make them. Thank you!
Hello,
You can scroll through my channel and you will find a video on the crank shaft timing pin.
I don't have informations on the camshafts timing pins.
@@olipirard Ok! Thank you! Your video is awsome, by the way!
good information...also buy HAYNES repair books on all car models
Amazing! Merci beaucoup 😊
Hola, muy buen video, para un EW10 de 206 GTI 2005 cuales son los puntos para el crankshaft?
Ola, I don't speak Spanish, but the timing points on the EW10 are the same as the EW7.
+Olivier Pirard no problem, thanks
exelente muy bien muchas gracias ..congratulations
Exelent video
what size are bolts that hold tensioner pulley for assessries belt? thanks.
I used a 10 mm socket to replace the serpentine belt's tensionner pulley.
So, screws are 6 mm diameter and we need two of them.
Olivier Pirard thank you verymuch
Hi Olivier , thanks for you video . Could this video work for EW10J4 engine ? Thanks again .
Hello Bobip,
Yes, this procedure works for the EW10J4 (2.0L) engine.
To be sure, take a look under the car to see if you have a big hole behind the intermediate drive shaft.
The purpose of this hole is to insert the "shouldered" dowel (pin?) which lock the flywheel.
Olivier Pirard Thank you your answer ! Have a good day.
Do i not need any special tools? Only a drill bit 8mm.
Dan Jensen The drill bit is for the crankshaft.
For the camshafts you'll need specials pins.
okay, thank you
Hello! Can you tell me, how to tension the PK 6 belt?
Sorry, I have no info on this engine.
@@olipirard Thanks for the answer! Your video is great.
buen dia cuales son los puntos para poner el tiempo al motor peugeot 405 o centauro 1.8
? En que año es el coche fabricado? What was the car's release year?
? En que año es el coche fabricado? What was the car's release year?
Olivier Pirard el año es 2010
jose aguero ? 2010? ? Es possibile sacar uno foto, porque Peugeot 405 es un coche viejo?
Is it possible to send me a picture of your car? Because a Peugeot 405 is far older than 4 years!
thaink you , i use pg 306 .i think it same
As far as the engine is from 2004 or newer, yes.
The engine u have is 2.0 not for 1.8l
Hey oliver I need some advice for change a timing belt
I have a peugeot 407 and I don't know the point of engin is good
You can help me
Give me your acount of facebook for talk
Je vais acheter les outils pour que je pussie le faire. J'ai eu un peu de peur car, j'ai lu dans un livre que l'on ne peut pas faire ce type de travail chez moi, et, ,on aura besoin d'un garage ect. L'annee derniere, j'ai change le cambelt (je suis desole, je ne sais pas le mot en francais pour cambelt, donc, j'utilse un peu de franglais haha) sur la voiture de ma femme, qui est un citroen saxo. J'avoue que c'est une voiture tres simple, ma ca m'a donne un peu de confiance. merci